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Title: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Lazarus on May 29, 2018, 02:21:38 PM
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/list/8457624/best-songs-of-1998

Great list
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Lazarus on May 29, 2018, 02:28:27 PM
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1. Aaliyah, "Are You That Somebody?" (No. 21, Hot 100)

You can?t even find the song.

?Are You That Somebody?? is currently lost outside the stream of capital, thanks to the chicanery and stubborn grief of Aaliyah?s uncle and manager, Barry Hankerson. The digital streaming platforms don?t carry it, and the YouTube uploads aren?t beaming money to any label. On some level this is correct, because ?Are You That Somebody?? should forever live in the beyond, as something to chase.

It?s of the past -- 20 years come June -- but still sounds like the future. Produced and written by Timbaland and Static Major and sung by Aaliyah, the song was recorded like a dream. At 4 a.m., Tim received a call from Hankerson, explaining that they needed a hit to put on the Dr. Doolittle soundtrack by 8 a.m. Talking animals and PG-13 Eddie Murphy? It hardly mattered -- the near-half-a-million bag beckoned and the great work began, with Timbaland hunched over a drum machine, Aaliyah in the booth, Static waving a blunt and smiling because he had the hook. They made the hit Hankerson asked for, and more.

Before you get to the baby, there?s the staccato bass line and drum sounds. You could stutter-step through the empty pockets left in the beat like you were dodging fat, lazy raindrops. The clucking and popping is a human mouth, only it?s tap dancing. ?Boy,? Aaliyah begins like she?s creating a perfectly round bubble of sound, drawing out the vowel and vibrating it. The lyrics describe love like a secret, and if this boy is let in on it, he can?t tell nobody. Fifty-three seconds in, the baby pops out, right on time and totally uncalled for, a genuine moment of awe for the Hot 100, where the song would eventually peak at No. 21. Prince himself used the same sample to close out ?Delirious? in 1982, but man, the chutzpah to let it coo repeatedly through this skeleton of a beat.

As Grammy-winning producer Bryan-Michael Cox told Vibe in 2008, ?It ain?t been a record like that since.? A year later, Drake interpolated Static?s hook for Young Money?s ?BedRock,? and one year after that, James Blake submerged and pitch-shifted Aaliyah?s voice for his breakout single ?CMYK.? Like Sasha Frere-Jones wrote in The New Yorker, the song is ?still effervescing? and inspiring new work, many years after the Grammys gave it a nod for best female R&B vocal performance. Ten out of ten people agree: This shit is not regular.

?Are You That Somebody?? persists in the cultural imagination despite being unavailable for sale on Amazon or iTunes, despite being unstreamable on Spotify or Tidal or Apple Music. Tens of millions of us know, by heart, a field recording of an infant made in 1969 -- an infant who will never be identified. Aaliyah passed away in August, of 2001. There is no way to tell her that nearly two decades later, ?Somebody? remains like the secret cave her and Timabaland?s crews populate in the song?s video: sacred territory hidden in plain sight, accessible only to the two of them. -- R.S.
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Kaeli. on May 29, 2018, 02:29:09 PM
#1 is really shocking actually

That?s one of my fav li songs tho
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Young on May 29, 2018, 02:29:43 PM


Ack!!!

Mon perched twice
Branica ACK :plzstop:

Liy omfff


Tragic order though
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Lazarus on May 29, 2018, 02:31:02 PM
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2. Lauryn Hill, "Doo Wop (That Thing!)" (No. 1, Hot 100)

It didn?t matter what street you turned down: This bouncy, head-bopping earworm was the song coming from everyone?s car in late 1998, warning listeners, to the tune of triumphant horns and a crisp piano hook, about being used for that thing -- be it sex, drugs, money, or otherwise. Lauryn Hill was hardly an unknown then, having already achieved major crossover success as one-third of mid-'90s rap group The Fugees. But it wasn?t long before "Doo Wop" -- the debut single off Hill?s now-iconic The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill LP -- and its soulful wisdom catapulted her to solo superstardom.

?Doo Wop,? which samples 5th Dimension?s 1971 track ?Together Let?s Find Love,? earned the then-23-year-old her first (and to date only) Hot 100 No. 1 -- making her one of only five female rappers to ever rule the chart at all, and at the time, the very first to do so without any other billed artists. She also snagged two Grammys for the track, and the song?s memorable split-screen block party visual earned her four MTV Video Music Awards, including Video of the Year, making her the first MC to take home the show's top honors.

But accolades aside, what remains most striking about ?Doo Wop? is the egalitarian message woven into Hill?s ice-cold rhyming swagger. Far ahead of her time, Hill succeeded in offering a wise PSA to both sexes without pitting one against the other: While the first verse references Philadelphia?s Million Woman March and advises ladies not to ?be a hard rock when you really are a gem,? the second takes on a man ?more concerned with his rims and his Timbs? than treating a woman right, each with equal parts grit and groove. With her first bona fide hit, Hill didn?t just prove her own worth as a solo R&B/hip-hop artist. In perhaps her more important contribution to the genre, the song also proved that rap can be a tool to unite, and to empower. -- T.C.
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Nine on May 29, 2018, 02:31:19 PM
Ummm...cute and stuff.

But where's INOJ?

:holdupguys:
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Lazarus on May 29, 2018, 02:32:58 PM
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26. Mariah Carey feat. Bone Thugs n Harmony, "Breakdown" (No. 53, Radio Songs)

The soul ballad that begins gently only to later explode and soar on the wings of heartbreak or desperate horniness, this is nothing novel. What makes ?Breakdown? special is how perfectly the lyrics describe this arc, and that Mariah Carey sings it. She unfolds the tale: ?You called yesterday to basically say/ That you care for me but you?re just not in love.? Damn. Knowing her angles, Mariah tells this man that, actually, she?s feeling the same way, even though it?s ?pretending,? that ?gradually [she?s] dying inside.?

While cramming as many words as possible into the chorus, she enunciates the particulars of her disguise. ?Better get control,? Krayzie Bone and Wish Bone intone behind her topline, and could she have picked rappers who are more in control of their vocal peaks and valleys than two members of Bone Thugs? She lets the mask slip at 3:10, riffing and running up the scales behind the pristine chorus. ?How do I feel? I?m losing my mind,? she wails. And if you don?t have chills at this point, what could you possibly know about life and loss and rhythm and blues? -- R.S.

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25. Janet Jackson, "I Get Lonely" (No. 3, Hot 100)

Desperation isn?t supposed to sound sexy. It?s supposed to make you sound pathetic, needy, maybe a little unhinged. And it usually does -- unless you are Janet Jackson, singing about loneliness over a Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis beat that snaps and glides and makes you move despite your fragile state. Such is ?I Get Lonely,? the third single from The Velvet Rope, Jackson?s gorgeous album of intense introspection. ?Lonely? clocks in at over five minutes, but it hits all the right spots: a full-voiced chorus of Jackson multiplied and plainly stating her feeling; and a handful of waiting-by-the-phone verses; a breakdown where she coos -- what else -- ?gonna break it down, break it down, break it down.? Like any good song, this chorus provides that much-needed moment of release. Unlike any good song, this chorus happens six times, repeating the same insistent two lyrics per refrain. Twelve climaxes in fewer than half as many minutes? Only Janet gets it done like that. -- C.W.
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Lazarus on May 29, 2018, 02:35:37 PM
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39. Usher, "Nice & Slow" (No. 1, Hot 100)

Shout-out to Jermaine Dupri and the Casey twins of Jagged Edge for helping craft one of freakiest R&B slow jams of all time. Usher?s ?Nice & Slow? is surely responsible for the creation of half a generation, including some of you who may be reading this right now. The ballad oozes sex appeal, with a young Usher (who had recently graduated from teendom) spelling out of exactly how he plans to make love to his lady -- as well as, uh, his entire name: ?They call me U-S, H-E-R, R-A, Y-M, O-N-D / Now, baby, tell me what you wanna do with me?? Despite being only 20 years old at the time, the singer channeled the confidence of many R&B greats before him, as his tender vocals caressed the song?s languid production. ?Nice & Slow? became Usher?s first Hot 100 No. 1, and if you scroll through your #MCM?s phone right now, you'll probably still find this on his ?let?s get it on? playlist. -- B.G.

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43. Faith Evans, "Love Like This" (No. 7, Hot 100)

As soon as you hear the mesmerizing opening beats, you can?t help but rock to what?s since become a party, club, and skating-rink mainstay. If fact, the latter doubles as the backdrop for the song?s video, with skaters undulating to its mellow groove and Evans? hot-buttered vocals. An arresting portent of the R&B and hip-hop fusion that was about to take over Top 40, Evans? Grammy-nominated smash undoubtedly celebrates the singer?s romance with late husband and rap icon Notorious B.I.G., who died the year before its release. -- G.M.

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63. Whitney Houston & Mariah Carey, "When You Believe" (No. 15, Hot 100)

What do you get when the two biggest powerhouse divas of the ?90s combine forces for a major motion picture soundtrack? Apparently a fairly traditional, saccharine power ballad. No shade, though: Whitney and Mimi sound excellent trading verses, and their harmonies are unclockable. The song only managed to peak at No. 15 on the Hot 100, but the pair got the last laugh: this Prince of Egypt cut took home the Academy Award for best original song. -- P.C.
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: BAPHOMET. on May 29, 2018, 02:38:48 PM
This is awful  :holdupguys:
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Lazarus on May 29, 2018, 02:46:43 PM
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72. Usher, "My Way" (No. 2, Hot 100)

Usher?s first My Way single, ?You Make Me Wanna...,? introduced him as a coy R&B star, while his second, ?Nice & Slow,? replaced the coy with straight-up coital. But it was his third, ?My Way,? that turned him into a freaky philanderer, the original Mr. Steal Your Girl: ?She likes it my way,? Usher croons over a thrusting beat and interjections from Jermaine Dupri, one of the album?s co-producers, matching his boastful attitude with a bounce that stands the test of time. What perhaps ages less well is the music video, where Usher, dressed like a funhouse version of Alex from A Clockwork Orange, squares off against Tyrese in a junkyard. With a bounce house. Sure. -- C.W.
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: FlowerBomb on May 29, 2018, 02:47:35 PM
Great year for music
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: FlowerBomb on May 29, 2018, 02:48:05 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on May 29, 2018, 02:35:37 PM


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43. Faith Evans, "Love Like This" (No. 7, Hot 100)

As soon as you hear the mesmerizing opening beats, you can?t help but rock to what?s since become a party, club, and skating-rink mainstay. If fact, the latter doubles as the backdrop for the song?s video, with skaters undulating to its mellow groove and Evans? hot-buttered vocals. An arresting portent of the R&B and hip-hop fusion that was about to take over Top 40, Evans? Grammy-nominated smash undoubtedly celebrates the singer?s romance with late husband and rap icon Notorious B.I.G., who died the year before its release. -- G.M.


This is a classic
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Lazarus on May 29, 2018, 02:48:30 PM
Quote from: Guilty on May 29, 2018, 02:47:35 PM
Great year for music
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Lazarus on May 29, 2018, 02:48:51 PM
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63. Whitney Houston & Mariah Carey, "When You Believe" (No. 15, Hot 100)

What do you get when the two biggest powerhouse divas of the ?90s combine forces for a major motion picture soundtrack? Apparently a fairly traditional, saccharine power ballad. No shade, though: Whitney and Mimi sound excellent trading verses, and their harmonies are unclockable. The song only managed to peak at No. 15 on the Hot 100, but the pair got the last laugh: this Prince of Egypt cut took home the Academy Award for best original song. -- P.C.
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Young on May 29, 2018, 02:48:53 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on May 29, 2018, 02:48:30 PM
Quote from: Guilty on May 29, 2018, 02:47:35 PM
Great year for music
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: FlowerBomb on May 29, 2018, 02:50:10 PM
Jans, Li, Faith, Natalie Imbrulgia...
I didn't know these all came out in the same year
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Gekkouga on May 29, 2018, 02:52:28 PM
Not that awful song from Titanic perched at #14

yeah trash ass list
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Lazarus on May 29, 2018, 02:55:47 PM
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85. Monica, "The First Night" (No. 1, Hot 100)

As soon as producer Jermaine Dupri brilliantly built Monica?s ?The First Night? around Diana Ross? 1976 disco classic ?Love Hangover,? we all knew this was going to be a surefire success. R&B artists typically sung about abstinence through emotional ballads (see Janet Jackson?s "Let's Wait Awhile?). But Monica played it ultra-cool about not giving it up so easy atop a thumping bassline. Her sassiness and self-worth on ?The First Night? earned her a Hot 100 No. 1 smash and became an inspiration for future female singers to stand up to pesky men for years to come. -- B.G.

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96. Nicole Wray feat. Missy Elliott & Mocha, "Make It Hot" (No. 5, Hot 100)

?Make It Hot? was a song from R&B newcomer Nicole?s debut album of the same name, but it became a hit largely because it sounded like a bonus cut off of Missy Elliott?s futuristic rap romp Supa Dupa Fly, and for good reason: Missy wrote it, Timbaland produced it, and their creeping beats and cool delivery are all over this tune. Hell, Missy even raps on the song, giving the smooth-voiced, 17-year-old Goldmind signee all the extra juice she'd need to get her alluring debut single to the top 5 of the Hot 100. -- CHRISTINE WERTHMAN

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17. Pras feat. Mya & Ol' Dirty Bastard, "Ghetto Supastar (That Is What You Are)" (No. 15, Hot 100)

On paper, the idea of Ol?Dirty Bastard guesting on a song that repurposes the Dolly Parton and Kenny Rogers 1983 hit ?Islands in the Stream? sounds like a Chappelle's Show skit, but incongruities are one of the things that made ?Ghetto Supastar? the most deliriously irresistible song of the summer of '98. Featured on the Bulworth soundtrack -- which also implausibly depicted a then-68 year-old Warren Beatty rapping -- this hip-pop confection is a bacon-topped Krispy Kreme, alternating between Mya?s sweet lacquered vocals and the savory crunch of Pras Michel and ODB?s rhymes. The music is a dead-if-you-don?t-dance mix that sounds like Lalo Schifrin?s Mission: Impossible theme got busy with an unused bassline from Queen?s ?Another Bites the Dust? sessions. And from the start, the song drops little sonic gifts that still resonate today: the gruff voice (ODB?) repeating Mya?s lines in the opening hook, the way Dirty strings out ?in the hooooooood,? and that fuzzy guitar solo that closes the song. -- F.D.
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: RAY7 on May 29, 2018, 03:25:00 PM
Cool little list or whatever
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: L0NZ. on May 29, 2018, 04:54:34 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on May 29, 2018, 02:28:27 PM
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1. Aaliyah, "Are You That Somebody?" (No. 21, Hot 100)

You can?t even find the song.

?Are You That Somebody?? is currently lost outside the stream of capital, thanks to the chicanery and stubborn grief of Aaliyah?s uncle and manager, Barry Hankerson. The digital streaming platforms don?t carry it, and the YouTube uploads aren?t beaming money to any label. On some level this is correct, because ?Are You That Somebody?? should forever live in the beyond, as something to chase.

It?s of the past -- 20 years come June -- but still sounds like the future. Produced and written by Timbaland and Static Major and sung by Aaliyah, the song was recorded like a dream. At 4 a.m., Tim received a call from Hankerson, explaining that they needed a hit to put on the Dr. Doolittle soundtrack by 8 a.m. Talking animals and PG-13 Eddie Murphy? It hardly mattered -- the near-half-a-million bag beckoned and the great work began, with Timbaland hunched over a drum machine, Aaliyah in the booth, Static waving a blunt and smiling because he had the hook. They made the hit Hankerson asked for, and more.

Before you get to the baby, there?s the staccato bass line and drum sounds. You could stutter-step through the empty pockets left in the beat like you were dodging fat, lazy raindrops. The clucking and popping is a human mouth, only it?s tap dancing. ?Boy,? Aaliyah begins like she?s creating a perfectly round bubble of sound, drawing out the vowel and vibrating it. The lyrics describe love like a secret, and if this boy is let in on it, he can?t tell nobody. Fifty-three seconds in, the baby pops out, right on time and totally uncalled for, a genuine moment of awe for the Hot 100, where the song would eventually peak at No. 21. Prince himself used the same sample to close out ?Delirious? in 1982, but man, the chutzpah to let it coo repeatedly through this skeleton of a beat.

As Grammy-winning producer Bryan-Michael Cox told Vibe in 2008, ?It ain?t been a record like that since.? A year later, Drake interpolated Static?s hook for Young Money?s ?BedRock,? and one year after that, James Blake submerged and pitch-shifted Aaliyah?s voice for his breakout single ?CMYK.? Like Sasha Frere-Jones wrote in The New Yorker, the song is ?still effervescing? and inspiring new work, many years after the Grammys gave it a nod for best female R&B vocal performance. Ten out of ten people agree: This shit is not regular.

?Are You That Somebody?? persists in the cultural imagination despite being unavailable for sale on Amazon or iTunes, despite being unstreamable on Spotify or Tidal or Apple Music. Tens of millions of us know, by heart, a field recording of an infant made in 1969 -- an infant who will never be identified. Aaliyah passed away in August, of 2001. There is no way to tell her that nearly two decades later, ?Somebody? remains like the secret cave her and Timabaland?s crews populate in the song?s video: sacred territory hidden in plain sight, accessible only to the two of them. -- R.S.



who the FUCK wrote this rdbbbhhhh.

the CHILLS
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: SouravMay on May 29, 2018, 04:58:42 PM
Where is Bert?!
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Navyman on May 29, 2018, 04:58:50 PM
This was all within one damn year!
:gorlonfire:
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: SouravMay on May 29, 2018, 05:00:59 PM
Queen Mocha really slayed 1998, huh?
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Ulysses on May 29, 2018, 05:02:30 PM
Great list. I love so many songs on there. Some I am gonna revisit.
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Lazarus on May 29, 2018, 05:05:23 PM
Quote from: Poseidon on May 29, 2018, 04:58:42 PM
Where is Bert?!

I just noticed he's missing  :dead:
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Young on May 29, 2018, 05:10:15 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on May 29, 2018, 04:54:34 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on May 29, 2018, 02:28:27 PM
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1. Aaliyah, "Are You That Somebody?" (No. 21, Hot 100)

You can?t even find the song.

?Are You That Somebody?? is currently lost outside the stream of capital, thanks to the chicanery and stubborn grief of Aaliyah?s uncle and manager, Barry Hankerson. The digital streaming platforms don?t carry it, and the YouTube uploads aren?t beaming money to any label. On some level this is correct, because ?Are You That Somebody?? should forever live in the beyond, as something to chase.

It?s of the past -- 20 years come June -- but still sounds like the future. Produced and written by Timbaland and Static Major and sung by Aaliyah, the song was recorded like a dream. At 4 a.m., Tim received a call from Hankerson, explaining that they needed a hit to put on the Dr. Doolittle soundtrack by 8 a.m. Talking animals and PG-13 Eddie Murphy? It hardly mattered -- the near-half-a-million bag beckoned and the great work began, with Timbaland hunched over a drum machine, Aaliyah in the booth, Static waving a blunt and smiling because he had the hook. They made the hit Hankerson asked for, and more.

Before you get to the baby, there?s the staccato bass line and drum sounds. You could stutter-step through the empty pockets left in the beat like you were dodging fat, lazy raindrops. The clucking and popping is a human mouth, only it?s tap dancing. ?Boy,? Aaliyah begins like she?s creating a perfectly round bubble of sound, drawing out the vowel and vibrating it. The lyrics describe love like a secret, and if this boy is let in on it, he can?t tell nobody. Fifty-three seconds in, the baby pops out, right on time and totally uncalled for, a genuine moment of awe for the Hot 100, where the song would eventually peak at No. 21. Prince himself used the same sample to close out ?Delirious? in 1982, but man, the chutzpah to let it coo repeatedly through this skeleton of a beat.

As Grammy-winning producer Bryan-Michael Cox told Vibe in 2008, ?It ain?t been a record like that since.? A year later, Drake interpolated Static?s hook for Young Money?s ?BedRock,? and one year after that, James Blake submerged and pitch-shifted Aaliyah?s voice for his breakout single ?CMYK.? Like Sasha Frere-Jones wrote in The New Yorker, the song is ?still effervescing? and inspiring new work, many years after the Grammys gave it a nod for best female R&B vocal performance. Ten out of ten people agree: This shit is not regular.

?Are You That Somebody?? persists in the cultural imagination despite being unavailable for sale on Amazon or iTunes, despite being unstreamable on Spotify or Tidal or Apple Music. Tens of millions of us know, by heart, a field recording of an infant made in 1969 -- an infant who will never be identified. Aaliyah passed away in August, of 2001. There is no way to tell her that nearly two decades later, ?Somebody? remains like the secret cave her and Timabaland?s crews populate in the song?s video: sacred territory hidden in plain sight, accessible only to the two of them. -- R.S.



who the FUCK wrote this rdbbbhhhh.

the CHILLS

Static waving a blunt and coming up with the hook has me screaming

But yeah the song is one of a kind. It really is iconic  :dead:

Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: 4 fucking k on May 29, 2018, 05:17:37 PM
This list is tired and late.
(https://uploadir.com/u/gc4ymphw)
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: L0NZ. on May 29, 2018, 05:19:18 PM
ommmmm #70
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: GLOCK on May 29, 2018, 06:44:00 PM
Quote from: element on May 29, 2018, 05:17:37 PM
This list is tired and late.
(https://uploadir.com/u/gc4ymphw)
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Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: GLOCK on May 29, 2018, 06:44:18 PM
Make it hot by Nicole Wray >>
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: D.I.E.G.O. on May 29, 2018, 07:11:32 PM
Quote from: Young on May 29, 2018, 02:48:53 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on May 29, 2018, 02:48:30 PM
Quote from: Guilty on May 29, 2018, 02:47:35 PM
Great year for music
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: BigDawg on May 29, 2018, 07:14:02 PM
The music of 98 was poppin
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Lazarus on May 29, 2018, 08:26:22 PM
Aaliyah definitely deserved to be No.1
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: b7 on May 29, 2018, 08:35:25 PM
Just wanna say Jay?s hard knock life is vastly overrated there at number 10. n

But
:loose2when:

QuoteThe digital streaming platforms don?t carry it, and the YouTube uploads aren?t beaming money to any label. On some level this is correct, because ?Are You That Somebody?? should forever live in the beyond, as something to chase
perfect description of the way i think of Aaliyah as a whole
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: ssw4919 on May 29, 2018, 08:47:59 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on May 29, 2018, 02:28:27 PM
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1. Aaliyah, "Are You That Somebody?" (No. 21, Hot 100)

You can?t even find the song.

?Are You That Somebody?? is currently lost outside the stream of capital, thanks to the chicanery and stubborn grief of Aaliyah?s uncle and manager, Barry Hankerson. The digital streaming platforms don?t carry it, and the YouTube uploads aren?t beaming money to any label. On some level this is correct, because ?Are You That Somebody?? should forever live in the beyond, as something to chase.

It?s of the past -- 20 years come June -- but still sounds like the future. Produced and written by Timbaland and Static Major and sung by Aaliyah, the song was recorded like a dream. At 4 a.m., Tim received a call from Hankerson, explaining that they needed a hit to put on the Dr. Doolittle soundtrack by 8 a.m. Talking animals and PG-13 Eddie Murphy? It hardly mattered -- the near-half-a-million bag beckoned and the great work began, with Timbaland hunched over a drum machine, Aaliyah in the booth, Static waving a blunt and smiling because he had the hook. They made the hit Hankerson asked for, and more.

Before you get to the baby, there?s the staccato bass line and drum sounds. You could stutter-step through the empty pockets left in the beat like you were dodging fat, lazy raindrops. The clucking and popping is a human mouth, only it?s tap dancing. ?Boy,? Aaliyah begins like she?s creating a perfectly round bubble of sound, drawing out the vowel and vibrating it. The lyrics describe love like a secret, and if this boy is let in on it, he can?t tell nobody. Fifty-three seconds in, the baby pops out, right on time and totally uncalled for, a genuine moment of awe for the Hot 100, where the song would eventually peak at No. 21. Prince himself used the same sample to close out ?Delirious? in 1982, but man, the chutzpah to let it coo repeatedly through this skeleton of a beat.

As Grammy-winning producer Bryan-Michael Cox told Vibe in 2008, ?It ain?t been a record like that since.? A year later, Drake interpolated Static?s hook for Young Money?s ?BedRock,? and one year after that, James Blake submerged and pitch-shifted Aaliyah?s voice for his breakout single ?CMYK.? Like Sasha Frere-Jones wrote in The New Yorker, the song is ?still effervescing? and inspiring new work, many years after the Grammys gave it a nod for best female R&B vocal performance. Ten out of ten people agree: This shit is not regular.

?Are You That Somebody?? persists in the cultural imagination despite being unavailable for sale on Amazon or iTunes, despite being unstreamable on Spotify or Tidal or Apple Music. Tens of millions of us know, by heart, a field recording of an infant made in 1969 -- an infant who will never be identified. Aaliyah passed away in August, of 2001. There is no way to tell her that nearly two decades later, ?Somebody? remains like the secret cave her and Timabaland?s crews populate in the song?s video: sacred territory hidden in plain sight, accessible only to the two of them. -- R.S.


Bitttttt!  :gorlonfire:
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: ssw4919 on May 29, 2018, 08:48:33 PM
?98 was the last GREAT year in mainstream music, IMO.
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: L0NZ. on May 29, 2018, 08:49:16 PM
fhruriruirur i wanna find who wrote that and stan them
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: ssw4919 on May 29, 2018, 10:02:20 PM
The way they lashed Barry.  :wellheythere:
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Young on May 29, 2018, 11:09:04 PM
Quote from: element on May 29, 2018, 05:17:37 PM
This list is tired and late.
(https://uploadir.com/u/gc4ymphw)

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Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Sovereign. on May 29, 2018, 11:22:47 PM
?Top of the World? should definitely be on there. The record is so feel good.
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: b7 on May 30, 2018, 01:14:00 AM
Quote from: GL#CK on May 29, 2018, 06:44:18 PM
Make it hot by Nicole Wray >>
omfff-a!
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: b7 on May 30, 2018, 01:17:46 AM
Quote from: Saeed. on May 29, 2018, 11:22:47 PM
?Top of the World? should definitely be on there. The record is so feel good.
right!

But i guess that and Have u ever popped in 99, if i recall correctly
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: ssw4919 on May 30, 2018, 01:30:53 AM
Trippin by Total came out in 98.
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: TriBeCa on May 30, 2018, 03:17:01 AM
More pity and sympathy votes for Aaliyah. She doesn't deserve #1 when Brandy and Monica had the #1 song of the entire year, spending 13 weeks at #1 and going double platinum which was massive and rare at the time. They also had the #1 video of the year on MTV and BET's year end countdown.
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: FlowerBomb on May 30, 2018, 03:19:46 AM
AOTY was sonically ahead of TBIM, but I see what you mean, this is based on chart success.
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: FlowerBomb on May 30, 2018, 03:20:10 AM
Still deserves to be No.1 though :raycharles2urmess:
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: b7 on May 30, 2018, 03:20:11 AM
I wouldn?t trip off of the top 5 when the entire list is in a strange order with MANY songs actually missing from this list

All different writers participated here, and, this list wasn?t done based on chart success. Seems to be more about defining songs of that year and such. 

I love their choice for #1. I?m a Li tho too so i smile whenever i read about her or Bran during this time
:stressed:
No sympathy needed when you?ve impacted and change the game forever
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Young on May 30, 2018, 04:39:20 AM
Yeah AYTS is truly one of a kind

It?s my favorite mess from Queen actually
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: ssw4919 on May 30, 2018, 04:44:43 AM
Quote from: Guilty on May 30, 2018, 03:19:46 AM
AOTY was sonically ahead of TBIM, but I see what you mean, this is based on chart success.

It is not.  A few songs they listed did not chart.  They mention chart success, but were just talking about overall musical appeal.
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: L0NZ. on May 30, 2018, 06:16:25 AM
Quote from: TriBeCa on May 30, 2018, 03:17:01 AM
More pity and sympathy votes for Aaliyah. She doesn't deserve #1 when Brandy and Monica had the #1 song of the entire year, spending 13 weeks at #1 and going double platinum which was massive and rare at the time. They also had the #1 video of the year on MTV and BET's year end countdown.

CriBeCa, we?re on BSource...we know the stats fag. It?s 2018, anyone with a pity vote has long cast it. The fact is, TBIM did a lot of things AYTS didn?t, and AYTS is a lot of things TBIM isn?t. You gotta be dumb to deny AYTS, and more dumb to miss that this list isn?t based on 13 weeks at #1.
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Lazarus on May 30, 2018, 06:51:41 AM
This list is isn't based off chart success. I believe Aaliyah's AYTS deserved to be No.1 rightfully so. Sonically, it was a ahead of its time. TBIM is deserved to be in the Top 5 which is it. It was the song of the year.
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: TriBeCa on May 30, 2018, 02:44:37 PM
You guys can say what you want but The Boy Is Mine / NEVER SAY NEVER is what changed the sound of R&B and influenced even the major players at the time. Who went on to work with Timbaland? Justin Timberlake and Nelly Furtado. Who was inspired to work with Rodney? Whitney had her comeback hit with It's Not Right But Its Okay. Michael Jackson had his comeback hit with Rock My World. Destiny's Child had their breakout smash with Say My Name. Toni came back with a #1 hit He's Wasn't Man Enough. Britney, Janet, Ciara, etc etc etc. None of that would've happened if Brandy didn't hire Rodney.
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: FlowerBomb on May 30, 2018, 02:46:42 PM
Quote from: TriBeCa on May 30, 2018, 02:44:37 PM
You guys can say what you want but The Boy Is Mine / NEVER SAY NEVER is what changed the sound of R&B and influenced even the major players at the time. Who went on to work with Timbaland? Justin Timberlake and Nelly Furtado. Who was inspired to work with Rodney? Whitney had her comeback hit with It's Not Right But Its Okay. Michael Jackson had his comeback hit with Rock My World. Destiny's Child had their breakout smash with Say My Name. Toni came back with a #1 hit He's Wasn't Man Enough. Britney, Janet, Ciara, etc etc etc. None of that would've happened if Brandy didn't hire Rodney.
:dead:
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: 🦚 on May 30, 2018, 02:49:06 PM
Nelly and Justin both worked with Tim before her.

She def put Rodney on the mainstream market

Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: RAY7 on May 30, 2018, 02:54:29 PM
Quote from: TriBeCa on May 30, 2018, 02:44:37 PM
You guys can say what you want but The Boy Is Mine / NEVER SAY NEVER is what changed the sound of R&B and influenced even the major players at the time. Who went on to work with Timbaland? Justin Timberlake and Nelly Furtado.
Brandy, Beyonce, Jay, DC4, Nas, Ginuwine
Im with you on Bran>Aaliyah, but you're kinda doing the most right now :dead:
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: ssw4919 on May 30, 2018, 03:04:54 PM
Are you suggesting Timbaland didn?t influence and change the sound of R&B in the mid-late nineties?

That?s a lie.

This list doesn?t change anyone?s success.  AYTS slayed And is still remade and sampled today.  TBIM was the #2 Billboard smash that year, and one of the biggest songs of the decade.  It?s just a list.  :usureuok:
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: BAPHOMET. on May 30, 2018, 03:09:21 PM
I just played AYTS and got chills
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Kaeli. on May 30, 2018, 03:12:28 PM
You can hear TBIM/NSN impact on R&B and Pop from like 1998-2000 but I don?t see what that has to do with AYTS being ahead of its time too

& why is chart success being discussed on a list on taste
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Kaeli. on May 30, 2018, 03:13:24 PM
And Timbaland didn?t produce TBIM, unless I?m missing something...:diddraispoot:
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: 🦚 on May 30, 2018, 03:15:23 PM
Quote from: Baph 305. on May 30, 2018, 03:09:21 PM
I just played AYTS and got chills

It was my fav song and video of 98

The top 2 here is spot on with my top 2 that year.
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: BAPHOMET. on May 30, 2018, 03:19:05 PM
"The roof" should've been on this list.

That song >
I've never played a song so many damn times. It's flawless.
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: FlowerBomb on May 30, 2018, 03:20:36 PM
Quote from: Baph 305. on May 30, 2018, 03:19:05 PM
"The roof" should've been on this list.

That song >
I've never played a song so many damn times. It's flawless.
That wasn't no damn hit
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: FlowerBomb on May 30, 2018, 03:20:52 PM
One of the best songs of all time though
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: 🦚 on May 30, 2018, 03:22:02 PM
This was my mess too

97. Jewel, "Hands" (No. 6, Hot 100)


:loose2when: :gorlonfire:

65. K-Ci & JoJo, "All My Life" (No. 1, Hot 100)


This should?ve been in the top10  :uhh:

27. Jennifer Paige, "Crush" (No. 3, Hot 100)

This classic 1 hit wonder mess  :plzstop: surprised Katy hasn?t tried to cover it.

Don?t know how ROL is in the top 10 instead of Frozen. But I fucking guess.
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: BAPHOMET. on May 30, 2018, 03:22:17 PM
Quote from: Guilty on May 30, 2018, 03:20:36 PM
Quote from: Baph 305. on May 30, 2018, 03:19:05 PM
"The roof" should've been on this list.

That song >
I've never played a song so many damn times. It's flawless.
That wasn't no damn hit

I know that  :fuming:
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Lazarus on May 30, 2018, 03:24:09 PM
Quote from: Sl?i?s Faxxx Machine on May 30, 2018, 03:22:02 PM
This was my mess too

97. Jewel, "Hands" (No. 6, Hot 100)


:loose2when: :gorlonfire:

:stressed:
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: ssw4919 on May 30, 2018, 03:31:20 PM
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Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: b7 on May 30, 2018, 03:37:46 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on May 30, 2018, 03:12:28 PM
You can hear TBIM/NSN impact on R&B and Pop from like 1998-2000 but I don?t see what that has to do with AYTS being ahead of its time too

& why is chart success being discussed on a list on taste
right. Both Brandy/Rodney and Aaliyah/Timbo changed the game forever

There?s no denying this  :-/  ?beca you?re the only one that sounds bitter in here. I don?t remember ur posts being like this during the TwoEleven era

Is this a fake account
:udontlookok:
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Nine on May 30, 2018, 03:41:48 PM
Quote from: Baph 305. on May 30, 2018, 03:09:21 PM
I just played AYTS and got chills
Tim is a fckn FOOL for that beat.

Not turning baby sounds into a knock.

Iconic

:gorlonfire:
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: FlowerBomb on May 30, 2018, 03:42:22 PM
Quote from: YAH. on May 30, 2018, 03:40:56 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on May 30, 2018, 04:44:43 AM
Quote from: Guilty on May 30, 2018, 03:19:46 AM
AOTY was sonically ahead of TBIM, but I see what you mean, this is based on chart success.

It is not.  A few songs they listed did not chart.  They mention chart success, but were just talking about overall musical appeal.
tears
:ummwhat:
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: FlowerBomb on May 30, 2018, 03:44:01 PM
AYTS is so nostalgic, I used to fast-forward to Dr Dolittle VHS JUST to hear it :dead:
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: RAY7 on May 30, 2018, 03:51:10 PM
Quote from: YAH. on May 30, 2018, 03:42:56 PM
Missy and Timb?s sound and influence >

It began in 96 :ohwow:
!!!
the way they wrote and produced and basically anyone in the camp could sing
the stuff and make hits: Ginuwine, Playa, Nicole Wray etc
:oof:
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: b7 on May 30, 2018, 03:52:52 PM
Nicole Wray really deserved more

i would?ve loved a song with her and Brandy cooing and adlibbing each other into the ground over some weird stutter claps and sounds
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: Lazarus on May 30, 2018, 03:58:21 PM
Quote from: AYR on May 30, 2018, 03:51:10 PM
Quote from: YAH. on May 30, 2018, 03:42:56 PM
Missy and Timb?s sound and influence >

It began in 96 :ohwow:
!!!
the way they wrote and produced and basically anyone in the camp could sing
the stuff and make hits: Ginuwine, Playa, Nicole Wray etc
:oof:

:dead:

I swear Ray hates Aaliyah  :plzstop:
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: FlowerBomb on May 30, 2018, 04:00:03 PM
!!!
He's really bitter when anyone places her above Brandy
We GET it hun'
She wasn't a better singer and you may feel her success and artisrty was overated, but that doesn't stop people gravitating to her music the way we do. :dead:
Title: Re: The 98 Greatest Songs of 1998
Post by: ssw4919 on May 30, 2018, 04:56:56 PM
Quote from: YAH. on May 30, 2018, 03:34:28 PM
QuoteBoy,? Aaliyah begins like she?s creating a perfectly round bubble of sound, drawing out the vowel and vibrating it.

Bitch!

Who the fuck wrote this?

Reminds me of that GLOWING review Rolling Stone gave the red album upon its release. :gorlonfire: