If this was acting or female rap maybe...but the male rap world is dominated by dark skin men with the exception of drake and J Cole
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He said racial ambiguity helps, which we all know to be true. I don't really see the issue here...
I see what he saying
I don't see any lies here, I see all fax tbh
I get what he's getting at. Maybe you should watch it again and try to comprehend his words a little better?
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on June 19, 2018, 06:41:42 AM
He said racial ambiguity helps, which we all know to be true. I don't really see the issue here...
I get what he?s saying but not so much in the profession he?s in
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Quote from: Gilgamesh. on June 19, 2018, 06:41:42 AM
He said racial ambiguity helps, which we all know to be true. I don't really see the issue here...
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If anything light skinned rappers get labeled as ?soft? but I guess
Another dumb thread
Lol ok luv
Wale signed to the wrong fucking crew. He is definitely more fit to be with the GOOD Music bunch and gurantee his music would have been less samey!
that's it. i still love some of his music it's just not progressed very much.
Quote from: King Ye on June 19, 2018, 08:38:09 AM
Wale signed to the wrong fucking crew. He is definitely more fit to be with the GOOD Music bunch and gurantee his music would have been less samey!
that's it. i still love some of his music it's just not progressed very much.
I agree with this. I think it?s basically his musical choices. Simple as that
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on June 19, 2018, 06:41:42 AM
He said racial ambiguity helps, which we all know to be true. I don't really see the issue here...
I mean, he didn't lie.
Of course he didn?t but in his profession....
Kendrick, Wayne, Kanye, Future Asap, Rick Ross, Meek...
:diddraispoot:
Quote from: HUGO on June 19, 2018, 08:55:52 AM
Of course he didn?t but in his profession....
Kendrick, Wayne, Kanye, Future Asap, Rick Ross, Meek...
:diddraispoot:
Drake has arguably achieved more mainstream success than all of these people.
Quote from: Cartier on June 19, 2018, 09:00:33 AM
Quote from: HUGO on June 19, 2018, 08:55:52 AM
Of course he didn?t but in his profession....
Kendrick, Wayne, Kanye, Future Asap, Rick Ross, Meek...
:diddraispoot:
Drake has arguably achieved more mainstream success than all of these people.
This is 100 percent spot on. He gets more pop airplay and all of that. It's not really a lie what Wale is speaking about, but his issue is just multifactoral
Shit, you can even argue that racial ambiguity played a huge part in Rihanna breaking out and becoming a worldwide star compared to her contemporaries that came out around the same time.
When you're BLACK black, there are definitely certain limits imposed on you in comparison to your racially ambiguous counterparts.
Quote from: Cartier on June 19, 2018, 09:04:01 AM
Shit, you can even argue that racial ambiguity played a huge part in Rihanna breaking out and becoming a worldwide star compared to her compared to her contemporaries that came out around the same time.
When you're BLACK black, there are definitely certain limits imposed on you in comparison to your racially ambiguous counterparts.
Yeah
Quote from: Cartier on June 19, 2018, 09:04:01 AM
Shit, you can even argue that racial ambiguity played a huge part in Rihanna breaking out and becoming a worldwide star compared to her compared to her contemporaries that came out around the same time.
When you're BLACK black, there are definitely certain limits imposed on you in comparison to your racially ambiguous counterparts.
regardless of the profession.
it could be rap, acting, modeling, porn, or a McDonald's cashier
I'm not seeing how is point was missed here. :uhh:
Quote from: Cartier on June 19, 2018, 09:00:33 AM
Quote from: HUGO on June 19, 2018, 08:55:52 AM
Of course he didn?t but in his profession....
Kendrick, Wayne, Kanye, Future Asap, Rick Ross, Meek...
:diddraispoot:
Drake has arguably achieved more mainstream success than all of these people.
!!!!!
like...
look at Bruno Mars, he's not an excellent singer/dancer
but because he's racially ambiguous he's not considered an 'R&B' act.
he instantly was considered POP, and got played on all the pop AND r&b stations.
had he been black, it would have gone a complete different direction.
the black gur's like Whitney, Janet, Toni, even Ciara had to overcome many obstacles in order to cross over.
I don't think Rap is any different.
It definitely plays a part but it?s never really been an issue in rap I?ve noticed. You really can?t name any other light skin rapper who?s benefited from being light skinned besides Drake. Even back in the 90?s and earlier days.
Quote from: HUGO on June 19, 2018, 09:23:11 AM
It definitely plays a part but it?s never really been an issue in rap I?ve noticed. You really can?t name any other light skin rapper who?s benefited from being light skinned besides Drake. Even back in the 90?s and earlier days.
Eminim, cardi, post malone, lil pump ect...
Quote from: Nine on June 19, 2018, 09:10:00 AM
Quote from: Cartier on June 19, 2018, 09:00:33 AM
Quote from: HUGO on June 19, 2018, 08:55:52 AM
Of course he didn?t but in his profession....
Kendrick, Wayne, Kanye, Future Asap, Rick Ross, Meek...
:diddraispoot:
Drake has arguably achieved more mainstream success than all of these people.
!!!!!
like...
IDK when you include Wayne and Kanye
I mean Drake JUST started getting #1 singles in the past couple years...
Quote from: OwnIt on June 19, 2018, 07:37:13 AM
I get what he's getting at. Maybe you should watch it again and try to comprehend his words a little better?
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Quote from: Cartier on June 19, 2018, 09:04:01 AM
Shit, you can even argue that racial ambiguity played a huge part in Rihanna breaking out and becoming a worldwide star compared to her contemporaries that came out around the same time.
When you're BLACK black, there are definitely certain limits imposed on you in comparison to your racially ambiguous counterparts.
Well to be fair that's pop music and not at all what Hugo is talking about
Quote from: Vonc2002 on June 19, 2018, 10:18:06 AM
Quote from: Cartier on June 19, 2018, 09:04:01 AM
Shit, you can even argue that racial ambiguity played a huge part in Rihanna breaking out and becoming a worldwide star compared to her contemporaries that came out around the same time.
When you're BLACK black, there are definitely certain limits imposed on you in comparison to your racially ambiguous counterparts.
Well to be fair that's pop music and not at all what Hugo is talking about
Pop, rap, film, whatever. As fresh said, being racially ambiguous is almost always a positive in any field.
except cotton apparently
:-(
Quote from: Kurama on June 19, 2018, 10:24:46 AM
except cotton apparently
:-(
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I can understand what he is getting at but his issue definitely more multi-factoral.
Quote from: HUGO on June 19, 2018, 07:53:31 AM
If anything light skinned rappers get labeled as ?soft? but I guess
that doesn?t negate what he said either tho, IMO. Racial ambiguity helps in EVERY area and every field, but especially entertainment because people want to relate to you more than anything.
He?s saying with racial ambiguity, there?s a greater chance that let?s say 6-7 different people with completely different backgrounds/ethnicities will look at a Drake and say ?wow, this part of him reminds me of myself, or hmm i kinda look like him?
Drake could easily shave that beard off and walk around certain countries and blend right in, in a way that Wale can NOT.
Quote from: Legacy on June 19, 2018, 09:10:29 AM
I just watched the video. I was expecting some sort of "woe is me, fuck deez light skin niggas" rant.
Boy lol
Wale just kinda stated facts - he said it helps in all walks of life.
When people are unable to pinpoint what someone is exactly it makes it harder for them to place them into one box. And if you're not in just one box, you have an opportunity to stop and mingle with a couple other boxes.
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why is this even a question anymore
can we make 'should all white people die' the next annoyingly obvious asked question?
I get IT
Quote from: ton on June 19, 2018, 06:06:05 PM
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why is this even a question anymore
can we make 'should all white people die' the next annoyingly obvious asked question?
Y?all see it
Quote from: AYR on June 19, 2018, 10:09:33 AM
Quote from: Nine on June 19, 2018, 09:10:00 AM
Quote from: Cartier on June 19, 2018, 09:00:33 AM
Quote from: HUGO on June 19, 2018, 08:55:52 AM
Of course he didn?t but in his profession....
Kendrick, Wayne, Kanye, Future Asap, Rick Ross, Meek...
:diddraispoot:
Drake has arguably achieved more mainstream success than all of these people.
!!!!!
like...
IDK when you include Wayne and Kanye
I mean Drake JUST started getting #1 singles in the past couple years...
drake is bigger without a doubt
+ his first #1 was almost a decade ago...
And Wale is usually pretentious and annoying, but I don?t see the problems with what he said here