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Title: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Dee on July 09, 2015, 09:43:38 PM
This Tamar vs Zo(Toni/Nivea's former assistant)

I'm not understanding why Toni is trying read 'Mar for not wanting to say at the UNCEF event because Towanda brought him.

She CLEARLY doesn't feel comfortable around him and has expressed that before :uhh:
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Dee on July 09, 2015, 09:47:44 PM
Tamar was wrong for not responding to Toni's son(Diezel) via text though. The only thing Toni should be pressed about.

I can't at Toni and the girls ganging up on ha. Whew! Yeah! Shenanigans! He ain't ya stalker gorl lolz!
:letsmessfag:
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Treasure on July 09, 2015, 09:49:14 PM
toni is rite
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: BigDawg on July 09, 2015, 09:50:23 PM
Shit I missed it...what secret was exposed that had Tamar boohooing?
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Dee on July 09, 2015, 09:50:31 PM
:plzstop: at Towanda sitting there perched with not one fuck given. She was like:  :cheerup: :plea:

Her and none of the other sisters didn't even console Tamar while she was crying sdffffff;
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: BigDawg on July 09, 2015, 09:58:49 PM
Ttttt

Why was she crying?
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Herb. on July 09, 2015, 10:09:17 PM
I think a part of them is really jealous of her recent successes.

They were so used to Toni being the superstar, and being that she's the oldest sibling I guess it was a little easier to bear. But to see the youngest come up and slay too, it has to be like "Damn, what am I doing wrong?" :dead:
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Treasure on July 09, 2015, 10:11:13 PM
Quote from: D.E.E on July 09, 2015, 09:50:31 PM
:plzstop: at Towanda sitting there perched with not one fuck given. She was like:  :cheerup: :plea:

Her and none of the other sisters didn't even console Tamar while she was crying sdffffff;
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSX



but toni was rite
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Jon on July 09, 2015, 10:14:29 PM
Quote from: Herb. on July 09, 2015, 10:09:17 PM
I think a part of them is really jealous of her recent successes.

They were so used to Toni being the superstar, and being that she's the oldest sibling I guess it was a little easier to bear. But to see the youngest come up and slay too, it has to be like "Damn, what am I doing wrong?" :dead:

But Tamar isn't really all that successful though. Tamar was being dramatic as per usual.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Herb. on July 09, 2015, 10:16:36 PM
Quote from: Jonovan on July 09, 2015, 10:14:29 PM
Quote from: Herb. on July 09, 2015, 10:09:17 PM
I think a part of them is really jealous of her recent successes.

They were so used to Toni being the superstar, and being that she's the oldest sibling I guess it was a little easier to bear. But to see the youngest come up and slay too, it has to be like "Damn, what am I doing wrong?" :dead:

But Tamar isn't really all that successful though. Tamar was being dramatic as per usual.
Not more than Toni. Honestly Toni's been there done that and literally 100x time more. She has nothing to be envious about.

Even with Tamar's lesser success though, it's still 10x more than what the other sisters have done solo. They have great reasons to be envious of her.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Treasure on July 09, 2015, 10:17:48 PM
toni is ....correctomoondo  :cheerup:
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Young on July 09, 2015, 10:26:42 PM
There is definitely a difference between Tamar's success and the other three

Albums released , awards won, 3 other spin off shows
Touring on her OWN.

She's surpassed them.
Toni is legend
Tamar is very relevant
The Other three aren't doing all that much besides the show
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: BigDawg on July 09, 2015, 10:38:11 PM
Hhhhhhhhhgh
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Just Dropped In To See What Condition My Condition Was In on July 09, 2015, 10:45:30 PM
Quote from: Herb. on July 09, 2015, 10:16:36 PM
Quote from: Jonovan on July 09, 2015, 10:14:29 PM
Quote from: Herb. on July 09, 2015, 10:09:17 PM
I think a part of them is really jealous of her recent successes.

They were so used to Toni being the superstar, and being that she's the oldest sibling I guess it was a little easier to bear. But to see the youngest come up and slay too, it has to be like "Damn, what am I doing wrong?" :dead:

But Tamar isn't really all that successful though. Tamar was being dramatic as per usual.
Not more than Toni. Honestly Toni's been there done that and literally 100x time more. She has nothing to be envious about.

Even with Tamar's lesser success though, it's still 10x more than what the other sisters have done solo. They have great reasons to be envious of her.
No shade but I do agree with this 100% But Toni still won another Grammy before Tamar will ever win one.  :lipton:
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 09, 2015, 10:47:51 PM
I don't think the other sisters are jealous except maybe Towanda. Traci don't really be around them like that and Trina and Tamar used to always be together. It could really be the fact that Tamar places herself on a pedestal and walk over her sisters. She's disrespectful to them. Like have yall not seen previous seasons? She used to shade tf out of them and tell all their business.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: asdfghjkl on July 09, 2015, 11:39:47 PM
I was screaming the whole episode
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Herb. on July 09, 2015, 11:48:59 PM
Just watched.

Wow. This is one time I had to side with Tamar.

But on the flip side, I'm very close with my younger sister, she's the baby of the siblings as well and I know how emotional she can get, and feel that the older siblings are ganging up on her. :dead: She could be crying, and I'd probably be looking at her like :udontlookok: too. :dead: :dead:

like omg gorl.

Nah, now that I think of it there's NEVER been a moment I saw my little sister in tears and not comfort her. I'll let her throw a temper and ignore it, but I can't stand to see her cry. I'm sorry I tried to rationalize it but they're fucked up for that. And most of them are jealous of her.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Young on July 10, 2015, 12:29:56 AM
Tamar boo fckn HOO'd and they all just PAID it

Disgusting
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Jon on July 10, 2015, 02:07:22 AM
lmfao just watched it. when they all said they didnt believe her fake crying i was laughing my ass off.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ssw4919 on July 10, 2015, 02:17:58 AM
Quote from: Herb. on July 09, 2015, 10:09:17 PM
I think a part of them is really jealous of her recent successes.

They were so used to Toni being the superstar, and being that she's the oldest sibling I guess it was a little easier to bear. But to see the youngest come up and slay too, it has to be like "Damn, what am I doing wrong?" :dead:

I agree.  They are so hateful towards her.  She does wrong but I don't see when they EVER apologize to her.


Am I the only one feeling like Towanda was malicious with the jumping on stage antics and this assistant thing, but no one ever calls her out?!  She's diabolical. :flamebroiled:
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ssw4919 on July 10, 2015, 02:24:38 AM
Tamar should have gone in but she should NOT have been put in a position to have to even make a choice, especially if she's made clear several times she doesn't want him around.  If anything, both were wrong.  They made her out to be so disloyal for supporting a fan who talked about Towanda's kids.  This isn't much different.  And Towanda and no one else will ever admit even contributing 1% to the mess.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Gilgamesh. on July 10, 2015, 02:26:42 AM
Quote from: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 09, 2015, 10:47:51 PM
I don't think the other sisters are jealous except maybe Towanda. Traci don't really be around them like that and Trina and Tamar used to always be together. It could really be the fact that Tamar places herself on a pedestal and walk over her sisters. She's disrespectful to them. Like have yall not seen previous seasons? She used to shade tf out of them and tell all their business.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ssw4919 on July 10, 2015, 02:30:39 AM
I don't think Tamar has been mean since the early seasons.  And then she was mostly dragging their deadbeat husbands.  Inappropriate, but not heartless like watching your sister bawl and giving a  :whogonbook: .   :dead:
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Scott. on July 10, 2015, 03:02:15 AM
Ain't nobody jealous of Tamar. That's always the excuse given when nobody's here for her bullshit.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Young on July 10, 2015, 03:05:04 AM
There's no bullshit to be had

These girls still fuming over one damn incident
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Scott. on July 10, 2015, 03:07:26 AM
Quote from: Young on July 10, 2015, 03:05:04 AM
There's no bullshit to be had

These girls still fuming over one damn incident

I was speaking in general bitch. Mind you, I haven't even seen the episode yet. I just get annoyed anytime there's an incident, "Oh JEALOUS!" like that's always the reason for every situation that doesn't go in her favor.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 04:40:39 AM
Yall clearly only going by and know what's being shown on TV because even Toni agreed with the other sisters and why would Toni be jealous of  a damn Tamar? Clearly stuff happened that caused everyone to be distant from her.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: BAPHOMET. on July 10, 2015, 05:00:08 AM
Tamar has nothing that anybody should be jealous of tbqfh
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: FRANCE on July 10, 2015, 05:16:26 AM
Quote from: Heartbreaker on July 10, 2015, 05:00:08 AM
Tamar has nothing that anybody should be jealous of tbqfh

1) A seemingly faithful husband (see Trina)
2) A husband with a job (see Towanda)
3) 2 solo albums and one on the way (see Trina and Towanda)
4) BET and Soul Train Awards (see everyone besides Toni)
5) Coinage (see everyone)

And the list can continue. On the contrary, what does Trina, Traci and Towanda have that Tamar would be jealous of? Tamar ain't no huge superstar but people do tend to downplay her accomplishments.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Dee on July 10, 2015, 05:33:12 AM
I don't think the girls are jealous of Tamar. But I do believe that she leaves them BOTHERED sometimes.. which explains why they gang up on her...plus completely PAY ha when she's being serious emotional

Also, in the earlier seasons Tamar's diva attitude + bragging about Vince's wealthy status in arguments turned them off from ha
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Dee on July 10, 2015, 05:33:58 AM
But if any one of the girls are jealous of Tamar, it definitely would be TOWANDA.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Young on July 10, 2015, 05:34:20 AM
Besides Toni all the sister have had the same platform and Tamar has shot up past the other three. Traci and Trina's music is barely taken seriously.

I'm not saying Tamar is innocent but that breakdown means her truth is she missed her sisters and it seems like they didn't care about that, just that same damn Performance incident which by the way would have NEVER happened to Toni.

The girls are a bit envious, am sorr'
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: BigDawg on July 10, 2015, 06:02:33 AM
Quote from: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 04:40:39 AM
Yall clearly only going by and know what's being shown on TV because even Toni agreed with the other sisters and why would Toni be jealous of  a damn Tamar? Clearly stuff happened that caused everyone to be distant from her.

I agree, I think it is much more deeper than we know or they show us on tv.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: RekeRig on July 10, 2015, 06:04:53 AM
omg

TD Jakes:  Do you believe her?

All the sisters in unison: ummmm no


c;'c
c
c
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they are COLD and evil for that. how can you watch her break down like that and feel NOTHING
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: RekeRig on July 10, 2015, 06:14:30 AM
and yea there's clearly more to it. The show could never show everything

they have issues they'll never address on camera

n
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: BigDawg on July 10, 2015, 06:16:20 AM
Recently, my family has been exposed to the same kind of bullshit. I have to say when someone cries wolf a thousand times, you start to become numb to that shit...tears or no tears, family or not.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: BAPHOMET. on July 10, 2015, 06:19:49 AM
Quote from: Francois Lite on July 10, 2015, 05:16:26 AM
Quote from: Heartbreaker on July 10, 2015, 05:00:08 AM
Tamar has nothing that anybody should be jealous of tbqfh

1) A seemingly faithful husband (see Trina)
2) A husband with a job (see Towanda)
3) 2 solo albums and one on the way (see Trina and Towanda)
4) BET and Soul Train Awards (see everyone besides Toni)
5) Coinage (see everyone)

And the list can continue. On the contrary, what does Trina, Traci and Towanda have that Tamar would be jealous of? Tamar ain't no huge superstar but people do tend to downplay her accomplishments.

C


1. He beats her.
2. He's repulsive to look at and he cant see his own penis. So he's not doing the most important job.
3. 2 flop albums and a 3rd on the way
4.  :udontlookok:
5. (see: Vince)

Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ... on July 10, 2015, 06:57:58 AM
I can't take her seriously when we all watched her act a FOOOOOL at the Atlanta show and she can't fess up to it.



She is constantly lying about her own actions put be quick to call others out for their own.

she is the typical youngest child- and as an adult no one has time for that any more.


Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Young on July 10, 2015, 07:02:56 AM
The way they didn't give a fuck when she broke down


I was PISSED
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 07:44:07 AM
Quote from: KippCarruthers on July 10, 2015, 06:57:58 AM
I can't take her seriously when we all watched her act a FOOOOOL at the Atlanta show and she can't fess up to it.



She is constantly lying about her own actions put be quick to call others out for their own.

she is the typical youngest child- and as an adult no one has time for that any more.

!!!!!

All you keep hearing "oh she's the baby" that bitch is almost 40 years old. It's time for her to grow the entire fuck up and accept accountability. She no longer has a relationship with her family because of her own actions. If all 4 of your sisters are saying the same shit then it's time to start looking into the mirror.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ssw4919 on July 10, 2015, 08:15:09 AM
The sisterhood dynamics are the root of the issue, not necessarily the fame.  I think it was clear from the beginning Towanda was always jealous of how close Toni was to Tamar.  All the sisters pretty much worship Toni, and Toni is naturally closer to Tamar, despite their spats every once in awhile.  They were superclose when Toni was at the height of her fame.  I think a lot of Towanda's passive aggressiveness has to do with that.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: FRANCE on July 10, 2015, 08:18:49 AM
Quote from: Heartbreaker on July 10, 2015, 06:19:49 AM
Quote from: Francois Lite on July 10, 2015, 05:16:26 AM
Quote from: Heartbreaker on July 10, 2015, 05:00:08 AM
Tamar has nothing that anybody should be jealous of tbqfh

1) A seemingly faithful husband (see Trina)
2) A husband with a job (see Towanda)
3) 2 solo albums and one on the way (see Trina and Towanda)
4) BET and Soul Train Awards (see everyone besides Toni)
5) Coinage (see everyone)

And the list can continue. On the contrary, what does Trina, Traci and Towanda have that Tamar would be jealous of? Tamar ain't no huge superstar but people do tend to downplay her accomplishments.

C


1. He beats her.
2. He's repulsive to look at and he cant see his own penis. So he's not doing the most important job.
3. 2 flop albums and a 3rd on the way
4.  :udontlookok:
5. (see: Vince)

Oh but I forgot to add something. Tamar got her own spin off show on WeTV. I distinctly remember the sisters (except Toni) being very salty about that and even saying they wont appear on her show. Only Toni did. Let's face it. If u don't like someone, and they just seem to be winning and they're the breakout star of the show, you may not be 'jealous' all the damn time, but there are moments when you are gonna feel some kind of way.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Vonc2002 on July 10, 2015, 08:20:35 AM
It must really be some shit going on because that Bitch broke down and they ALL collectively gave her :ermm:
I think this "jealous" thing is such a cop out.  How are ALL of them jealous of her and to the point where she is breaking down in front of them and none of them believe it's genuine?  Nah it's deeper than "jealous". I DIED when she was in shambles and they all  :ohwow:
:kii:
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ssw4919 on July 10, 2015, 08:26:22 AM
Quote from: KippCarruthers on July 10, 2015, 06:57:58 AM
I can't take her seriously when we all watched her act a FOOOOOL at the Atlanta show and she can't fess up to it.



She is constantly lying about her own actions put be quick to call others out for their own.

she is the typical youngest child- and as an adult no one has time for that any more.


My issues with the whole thing... number one, we didn't hear it.  Number two, it seems to change when they ask who heard it.  I thought Trina heard it, but then she said at their sit down that some assistant heard it, and now Traci said she heard it while everyone else was silent when asked.  Number three, I believe Evelyn was also removed, which doesn't sound like Tamar.  Finally, in terms of insults, it also sounds unlike Tamar to not confess and just apologize.  Or at least confess and deflect to the reason why she was mad.  She doesn't shy away from her insults.  She justifies them.


Regardless, I hate how everything is focused on what she did as opposed to conceding that maybe they were wrong from jumping on stage.  Trina was dead set against it every step of the way.  Towanda was screaming too loudly that it was all for support, which is a lie.  They refuse to say, maybe we shouldn't have surprised you BUT that doesn't give you the right to...  Or maybe we shouldn't have invited ol boy BUT you were wrong for...  They never give her even an inch.  :dead: 
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ssw4919 on July 10, 2015, 08:29:38 AM
Toni is not jealous.  But Toni is the only one without long-running issues with her.  The fight and make up each time.  Tamar and Towanda have the worst issues, and Tamar and Traci.  Trina tries to be objective most of the time, but this Atlanta show thing was a dealbreaker for her.  But even she said the assistant shouldn't have been invited.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: FRANCE on July 10, 2015, 08:33:34 AM
Tamar definitely overreacted to them hopping on stage for a few seconds. I don't see what the big deal was. It's not like they snatched her mike and started singing. They just went on stage to dance a little. So her reacting negatively tot hat, I don't see the problem.

And yes, Trina was the one who was dead set on that not being a good idea and saying they shouldnt do it cause its gonna cause some problems with Tamar. Now that the problems arise, all of a sudden she feels some kind of way. Like wtf?
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: BigDawg on July 10, 2015, 08:37:16 AM
Quote from: Francois Lite on July 10, 2015, 08:18:49 AM
Quote from: Heartbreaker on July 10, 2015, 06:19:49 AM
Quote from: Francois Lite on July 10, 2015, 05:16:26 AM
Quote from: Heartbreaker on July 10, 2015, 05:00:08 AM
Tamar has nothing that anybody should be jealous of tbqfh

1) A seemingly faithful husband (see Trina)
2) A husband with a job (see Towanda)
3) 2 solo albums and one on the way (see Trina and Towanda)
4) BET and Soul Train Awards (see everyone besides Toni)
5) Coinage (see everyone)

And the list can continue. On the contrary, what does Trina, Traci and Towanda have that Tamar would be jealous of? Tamar ain't no huge superstar but people do tend to downplay her accomplishments.

C


1. He beats her.
2. He's repulsive to look at and he cant see his own penis. So he's not doing the most important job.
3. 2 flop albums and a 3rd on the way
4.  :udontlookok:
5. (see: Vince)

Oh but I forgot to add something. Tamar got her own spin off show on WeTV. I distinctly remember the sisters (except Toni) being very salty about that and even saying they wont appear on her show. Only Toni did. Let's face it. If u don't like someone, and they just seem to be winning and they're the breakout star of the show, you may not be 'jealous' all the damn time, but there are moments when you are gonna feel some kind of way.

But the thing with Tamar's spinoff is that she let it be known that she didnt want to work with her sister's. So on the heels of that, the other's decided not to participate on the spin off.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 08:37:18 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 10, 2015, 08:20:35 AM
It must really be some shit going on because that Bitch broke down and they ALL collectively gave her :ermm:
I think this "jealous" thing is such a cop out.  How are ALL of them jealous of her and to the point where she is breaking down in front of them and none of them believe it's genuine?  Nah it's deeper than "jealous". I DIED when she was in shambles and they all  :ohwow:
:kii:

Right because my mom and her sisters can argue, fight etc but when one of them is hurting them white bitches come together and embrace and it's back to normal for a few months weeks they literally sat there and gave a
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/25/8d00fcba9ff499f791c26b33b79975b6.jpg)
Even Toni lol

That bitch was putting on a show for TD Jakes. I saw right through it.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Young on July 10, 2015, 08:38:40 AM
The idea was fucking messy.

First off if I was Tamar I would feel like them bitches don't take me or my career seriously. It's a SHOW. They would NEVER do that to Toni.
It just shows how they view Tamar tbh. Trina knew it wasn't a good idea and Tamar even SAID before the show I don't want to see yawl because I'll be nervous.

This was around the time Towanda and Tamar we're going AT it, so I find it hard to believe Towanda had good intentions doing so, especially when I know for a fact if it was Toni's show it would have never happened.
U can show support by bringing flowers on stage at the end or something, not trying to secretly steal her shine.

It was messy. And regardless if she cussed them out or not, that was a year ago, move ON. The way Tamar broke down really showed how affected she was by everything. So for them to just completely pay her dust like that was DISGUSTING
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: BigDawg on July 10, 2015, 08:42:16 AM
I think deep down the other sisters know that Tamar may be willing to chalk it up to nothing, but next week it will just be more of the same mess with Tamar. Which is probably why they were stone faced when she was crying.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Zankou. on July 10, 2015, 08:42:18 AM
Quote from: Young on July 10, 2015, 08:38:40 AM
The idea was fucking messy.

First off if I was Tamar I would feel like them bitches don't take me or my career seriously. It's a SHOW. They would NEVER do that to Toni.
It just shows how they view Tamar tbh. Trina knew it wasn't a good idea and Tamar even SAID before the show I don't want to see yawl because I'll be nervous.

This was around the time Towanda and Tamar we're going AT it, so I find it hard to believe Towanda had good intentions doing so, especially when I know for a fact if it was Toni's show it would have never happened.
U can show support by bringing flowers on stage at the end or something, not trying to secretly steal her shine.

It was messy. And regardless if she cussed them out or not, that was a year ago, move ON. The way Tamar broke down really showed how affected she was by everything. So for them to just completely pay her dust like that was DISGUSTING

I actually agree with this..

Towanda is noticeably BOTHERED by Tamar
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Young on July 10, 2015, 08:42:20 AM
Do I think Tamar was being extra and not being truthful about the entire night? Yes

But now it's pointless to even harp on the whole thing.
They expect an apology from her for throwing them out but never apologized for ruining her set.

It's very one sided.
Even earlier in the episode when toni and Tamar were debating they all jumped on Tamar in favor of Toni. The whole dynamic is a mess
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 08:42:59 AM
Quote from: BigDawg on July 10, 2015, 08:37:16 AM
Quote from: Francois Lite on July 10, 2015, 08:18:49 AM
Quote from: Heartbreaker on July 10, 2015, 06:19:49 AM
Quote from: Francois Lite on July 10, 2015, 05:16:26 AM
Quote from: Heartbreaker on July 10, 2015, 05:00:08 AM
Tamar has nothing that anybody should be jealous of tbqfh

1) A seemingly faithful husband (see Trina)
2) A husband with a job (see Towanda)
3) 2 solo albums and one on the way (see Trina and Towanda)
4) BET and Soul Train Awards (see everyone besides Toni)
5) Coinage (see everyone)

And the list can continue. On the contrary, what does Trina, Traci and Towanda have that Tamar would be jealous of? Tamar ain't no huge superstar but people do tend to downplay her accomplishments.

C


1. He beats her.
2. He's repulsive to look at and he cant see his own penis. So he's not doing the most important job.
3. 2 flop albums and a 3rd on the way
4.  :udontlookok:
5. (see: Vince)

Oh but I forgot to add something. Tamar got her own spin off show on WeTV. I distinctly remember the sisters (except Toni) being very salty about that and even saying they wont appear on her show. Only Toni did. Let's face it. If u don't like someone, and they just seem to be winning and they're the breakout star of the show, you may not be 'jealous' all the damn time, but there are moments when you are gonna feel some kind of way.

But the thing with Tamar's spinoff is that she let it be known that she didnt want to work with her sister's. So on the heels of that, the other's decided not to participate on the spin off.

!!!!!!

People talk so much shit about Kim K but that bitch gave her family careers. Even in the very beginning when she was getting her feet wet she opened up doors. Tamar and Vince is very only about Tamar. No reason why the sisters don't have business dealings outside of the show making them coins. None what so ever. I mean Toni has those bitches in her show, gave them jobs on her team but what has Tamar done? If anything, like Trina said Tamar alienated herself. That's why she has no true success and it's showing this current era. The devil's gifts can only last but so long before White Jesus began to work.

In Atheist terms. Karma is a birch *in my Aunt Bertha voice*
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ssw4919 on July 10, 2015, 08:44:03 AM
They wouldn't do it to Toni.  She's a perfectionist.  Also, it was Towanda's idea and Trina KNEW it wouldn't go over well.  Plus, you coming to support me in the audience is different from showing up to get a little spotlight for yourself.  Tamar has invited Trina to sing with her, so I don't see why they couldn't have just gotten the green light for Tamar and done a real performance with her.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 08:44:49 AM
Quote from: Young on July 10, 2015, 08:42:20 AM
Do I think Tamar was being extra and not being truthful about the entire night? Yes

But now it's pointless to even harp on the whole thing.
They expect an apology from her for throwing them out but never apologized for ruining her set.

It's very one sided.
Even earlier in the episode when toni and Tamar were debating they all jumped on Tamar in favor of Toni. The whole dynamic is a mess

Blah. They apologized, well Trina did when Tamar was saying Toni didn't pave the way for her.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ssw4919 on July 10, 2015, 08:47:01 AM
Towanda and Trina not making coins is on them.  Tamar came to them with the reality show idea.  The rest is up to you.  Tamar gave Trina a platform on her own CD and shared the stage with her.  If EVERYONE is paying your dance music dust but you insist, that's on you.  :dead:  Trina could do something if she sang the right genre.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 08:47:21 AM
and I remember Toni saying that they ALL did that to her during one of her shows back in the day so save the BS.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 08:48:16 AM
Quote from: ssw4919 on July 10, 2015, 08:47:01 AM
Towanda and Trina not making coins is on them.  Tamar came to them with the reality show idea.  The rest is up to you.  Tamar gave Trina a platform on her own CD and shared the stage with her.  If EVERYONE is paying your dance music dust but you insist, that's on you.  :dead:  Trina could do something if she sang the right genre.

That's why Black families are so unsuccessful because of that mentality.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Young on July 10, 2015, 08:48:39 AM
Tamar does not have to feel obligated to make them a part of HER success.
They all have a platform and can make business moves just like she has.
They're just kinda corny and don't have solo star power.

And they know that. I remember the first two seasons she won "fan favorite" at the reunion. They were all bothered.

When they work together on a business front they fight a lot.
So I don't think them working together is smart. They couldn't even tribute Toni that time they tried to get a set together for her.

Tamar didn't alienate herself, she's BOOKED.
And that's the true tea. They can't hate her for that. Her not knowing about certain events or Trina's divorce for example just shows they aren't okay with her being busy and booked. They leave her out of shit.
And that's what she was talking about when she broke down.

She can't help she's living her dream now.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Young on July 10, 2015, 08:50:59 AM
Tamar literally said I don't want to see you I'll be nervous.
Why hop the fuck on stage unannounced and then kii as you trot off.
The intentions weren't pure. Towanda was being messy.
Trina knew it would be a mess
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: BigDawg on July 10, 2015, 08:52:48 AM
But at which point is Tamar held accountable for her actions?
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 08:54:18 AM
Don't really care tbh. They hopped on stage for one song. Not her whole damn set and Hot Sugar was/is in the middle to the end of her set not at the very beginning. So no excuse. She's selfish.

That's why I love Beyonc? and her career has panned out the way it has. She's so selfless. Kim K too and all the other celebrities that are currently thriving and seeing success.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Young on July 10, 2015, 08:56:28 AM
But Tamar has apologized SEVERAL times about the incident and wants to move on.

They keep harping on it and never apologized for ruining her set.
Never.

Then bringing Zo to the show after that fag has called her out of her name and ran her through the mud on several occasions just shows how messy Towanda is, ESPECIALLY after Tamar said several times not to bring him around.

How can u keep company with someone that disrespects your blood?
That's SICK
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Vonc2002 on July 10, 2015, 08:59:09 AM
Look, FUCK this ugly ass girl. Everybody ain't no damn jealous of her, she ain't even successful like THAT :dead:
Toni said it exactly right.  She's abrasive and always falling out with somebody.  And I'm kinda crying at that boy being her "stalker"  :dead:
No bitch he just TOSSED yo ugly ass online.  Oh, STALKER! Wow That sure is a dramatic way of saying he don't like u
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Young on July 10, 2015, 09:00:04 AM
Quote from: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 08:54:18 AM
Don't really care tbh. They hopped on stage for one song. Not her whole damn set and Hot Sugar was/is in the middle to the end of her set not at the very beginning. So no excuse. She's selfish.

That's why I love Beyonc? and her career has panned out the way it has. She's so selfless. Kim K too and all the other celebrities that are currently thriving and seeing success.

v

Gor...

Kim is kinda desperate for fame, no shade and Bey has a Machine Behind her and married power .

No Tamar isn't perfect. She has flaws, but at the same time she's the only sister that has her mother LIVING with her because she's sick. She told Traci if she wanted to do hair she could move in with her as well to get her career started and even gave her some connects. She put Trina on her Christmas album. She ain't that selfish.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 09:02:53 AM
Quote from: Young on July 10, 2015, 08:56:28 AM
But Tamar has apologized SEVERAL times about the incident and wants to move on.

They keep harping on it and never apologized for ruining her set.
Never.

Then bringing Zo to the show after that fag has called her out of her name and ran her through the mud on several occasions just shows how messy Towanda is, ESPECIALLY after Tamar said several times not to bring him around.

How can u keep company with someone that disrespects your blood?
That's SICK

Like Toni said that bitch falls out with EVERYONE. Like that just made me remember that everyone she was ever friends with don't even really fuck with her like that lol
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Young on July 10, 2015, 09:03:28 AM
 Something definitely happened behind the scenes though because I remember there being a fight with the assistants last season.

Toni is still a legend, Tamar has become an R&B superstar, 2x reality show star, daytime talk show host, clothing line owner, and just got a 4th show and two movie roles snagged.

Towanda is still doing the same shit
Tracis career ain't doing much of anything and she's still in nutbush
Trina has bar chicks and an ex husband that Tamar warned her about trying to ruin her life.

There's definitely a bit of jealously. Sorry
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 09:03:29 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 10, 2015, 08:59:09 AM
Look, FUCK this ugly ass girl. Everybody ain't no damn jealous of her, she ain't even successful like THAT :dead:
Toni said it exactly right.  She's abrasive and always falling out with somebody.  And I'm kinda crying at that boy being her "stalker"  :dead:
No bitch he just TOSSED yo ugly ass online.  Oh, STALKER! Wow That sure is a dramatic way of saying he don't like u

Fffffffffffffffffff crying welcome back faggot
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Vonc2002 on July 10, 2015, 09:04:03 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 10, 2015, 08:59:09 AM
Look, FUCK this ugly ass girl. Everybody ain't no damn jealous of her, she ain't even successful like THAT :dead:
Toni said it exactly right.  She's abrasive and always falling out with somebody.  And I'm kinda crying at that boy being her "stalker"  :dead:
No bitch he just TOSSED yo ugly ass online.  Oh, STALKER! Wow That sure is a dramatic way of saying he don't like u
Boy are u dense?  Apologized? She won't even acknowledge that she did anything and me as a viewer I SAW some of the mess so completely believe them.  She trying to act like NOTHING happened and it's all a figment of their imagination. Like think logically,  there is a reason EVERY sister has an issue with her. ToWanda CLEARLY doesn't like tamar and tbh I've had family members I don't like and could care less about how they felt about the company I kept.  Tamar is her own undoing..............ugly self
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Zankou. on July 10, 2015, 09:04:58 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 10, 2015, 09:04:03 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 10, 2015, 08:59:09 AM
Look, FUCK this ugly ass girl. Everybody ain't no damn jealous of her, she ain't even successful like THAT :dead:
Toni said it exactly right.  She's abrasive and always falling out with somebody.  And I'm kinda crying at that boy being her "stalker"  :dead:
No bitch he just TOSSED yo ugly ass online.  Oh, STALKER! Wow That sure is a dramatic way of saying he don't like u
Boy are u dense?  Apologized? She won't even acknowledge that she did anything and me as a viewer I SAW some of the mess so completely believe them.  She trying to act like NOTHING happened and it's all a figment of their imagination. Like think logically,  there is a reason EVERY sister has an issue with her. ToWanda CLEARLY doesn't like tamar and tbh I've had family members I don't like and could care less about how they felt about the company I kept.  Tamar is her own undoing..............ugly self

:omgwatshappening:
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Young on July 10, 2015, 09:05:48 AM
Who's she fallen out with besides her makeup artist?

She has plenty of long time friends, Lashawn and his wife, Tiny, Monica, Shekinah, all the ATL gorls, TC, Loni, Adrienne, Tamera, etc
Like besides her sisters and some fag, who?
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Vonc2002 on July 10, 2015, 09:06:47 AM
Look I gotta get used to this new mess. But wait I'm still SHAKING at them not giving a fuck about her SOBBING! Shit, even I felt bad.  They HATE her :dead:
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Young on July 10, 2015, 09:07:10 AM
At some point they need to let that shit GO.
It's in the past. Move on.

Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 09:08:26 AM
Quote from: Young on July 10, 2015, 09:05:48 AM
Who's she fallen out with besides her makeup artist?

She has plenty of long time friends, Lashawn and his wife, Tiny, Monica, Shekinah, all the ATL gorls, TC, Loni, Adrienne, Tamera, etc
Like besides her sisters and some fag, who?

ffffffffff

Her immediate family, her creative director, personal assistants, I remember TC stopped working with her at one point, Recording Studios, Video directors, the IRS, the company that was working on her vodka. That bitch is just bad energy all around.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Zankou. on July 10, 2015, 09:09:46 AM
Quote from: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 09:08:26 AM
Quote from: Young on July 10, 2015, 09:05:48 AM
Who's she fallen out with besides her makeup artist?

She has plenty of long time friends, Lashawn and his wife, Tiny, Monica, Shekinah, all the ATL gorls, TC, Loni, Adrienne, Tamera, etc
Like besides her sisters and some fag, who?
the IRS

q
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Vonc2002 on July 10, 2015, 09:09:56 AM
Quote from: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 09:08:26 AM
Quote from: Young on July 10, 2015, 09:05:48 AM
Who's she fallen out with besides her makeup artist?

She has plenty of long time friends, Lashawn and his wife, Tiny, Monica, Shekinah, all the ATL gorls, TC, Loni, Adrienne, Tamera, etc
Like besides her sisters and some fag, who?

ffffffffff

Her immediate family, her creative director, personal assistants, I remember TC stopped working with her at one point, Recording Studios, Video directors, the IRS, the company that was working on her vodka. That bitch is just bad energy all around.
Is he well :dead:
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Zankou. on July 10, 2015, 09:10:12 AM
I wonder if Terrell ever got his monies
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Young on July 10, 2015, 09:13:28 AM
They didn't think she'd pop like she did. Her sayings are said everywhere.
People know her now.

It must suck having your oldest and youngest sister become famous and the middle gorls all flopping and have shitty love lives or music careers.

She didn't isolate herself, she's living her dream and for some reason now all of the sudden her antics and ways are so much of a problem that they aren't close to her anymore.

I'm Just not buying it sorry. It's a cop it excuse to mask the jealousy they feel.


I remember how hyped the three flops were to start that sister album that they flew to LA AND Got a house together. All while Toni and Tamar were booked doing shows and running their careers.
They can't take that Tamar is just as if not more booked than Toni at the moment.

That's their real issue with her. That's why they keep CLINGING to this year old show incident that Tamar apologized for several times now as a reason for them not talking to her, not telling them about anything going on in their lives or inviting her to stuff
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Young on July 10, 2015, 09:15:44 AM
If yawl can't see that them hoes are just holding onto a REASON to hate her then I dunno what to tell yawl. Because even before that incident there was tension and they couldn't even pinpoint a reason. Now they have half of one and have been using it as a reason for over a year now

I remember Tamar literally asking Towanda what her problem was before this show incident and all she kept saying was oh! Creating boundaries! Tired of ya! Gorl move
After 30+ years NOW your tired at the same time her career is popping coincidentally ?

Plea'
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 09:17:08 AM
n

Young baby just go back to adding piss filters to pics luv. You're clearly deluded by you standom
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: BigDawg on July 10, 2015, 09:18:34 AM
But Tamar's apologies are always so half assed and empty.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Young on July 10, 2015, 09:19:50 AM
Quote from: BigDawg on July 10, 2015, 09:18:34 AM
But Tamar's apologies are always so half assed and empty.
But at least she's apologizing
Wtf are they doing?
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 09:20:49 AM
She doesn't even admit to cussing them out. It's always, I didn't say it directly to them. But bitch they fucking heard it. You put them out. I saw just like the rest of the viewers say that soot man tell them to leave. 
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 09:21:36 AM
Quote from: Young on July 10, 2015, 09:19:50 AM
Quote from: BigDawg on July 10, 2015, 09:18:34 AM
But Tamar's apologies are always so half assed and empty.
But at least she's apologizing
Wtf are they doing?

Making her cry hysterically and be unbothered lolz
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: BigDawg on July 10, 2015, 09:22:09 AM
Quote from: Young on July 10, 2015, 09:19:50 AM
Quote from: BigDawg on July 10, 2015, 09:18:34 AM
But Tamar's apologies are always so half assed and empty.
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But at least she's apologizing
Wtf are they doing?

Why would they respond in kindness to Tamar if they know her apologies are pointless and her shennanigans will just continue. Typically apologies mean that you have learned a lesson and will not repeat the same mistakes, but Tamar never learns.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: BigDawg on July 10, 2015, 09:23:13 AM
Quote from: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 09:20:49 AM
She doesn't even admit to cussing them out. It's always, I didn't say it directly to them. But bitch they fucking heard it. You put them out. I saw just like the rest of the viewers say that soot man tell them to leave.

Not to mention she chucked a waterbottle at Traci's head
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Young on July 10, 2015, 09:23:53 AM
They're jealous. And that's why they're losing and she's winning lol
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 09:26:57 AM
Quote from: Young on July 10, 2015, 09:23:53 AM
They're jealous. And that's why they're losing and she's winning lol

n
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ... on July 10, 2015, 09:43:48 AM
LMAO not being people being oblivious to the fact that Tamar falls out with everyone.!


Sis is still lying saying she didnt cuss her sisters out and have them (and their mother) escorted out her show.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ... on July 10, 2015, 09:45:05 AM
Quote from: Young on July 10, 2015, 09:19:50 AM
Quote from: BigDawg on July 10, 2015, 09:18:34 AM
But Tamar's apologies are always so half assed and empty.
But at least she's apologizing
Wtf are they doing?

No offense.
But none of us know them.
But if EVERYONE around here has the same issues with her who are u to saw those issues are valid
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ... on July 10, 2015, 09:46:09 AM
If my SIBLINGS EVERRRRRRR put me out their Home (let alone cuss me out and have an assistant put me out)

there is little to nothing they could do to mend that fucking fence.


but again my siblings aren't that self absorbed 
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ssw4919 on July 10, 2015, 10:37:21 AM
Quote from: BigDawg on July 10, 2015, 08:52:48 AM
But at which point is Tamar held accountable for her actions?


She should be, but their MO is to completely deflect their part onto Tamar.  None of them, Tamar included, own any wrongdoing and it's childish.

As far as family success, how else can she help them?  This show was her idea.  That's a platform.  She can't force Trina to sing R&B.  What does Towanda even want to do?  It would be nice if they could come up with some family revenue streams like a gospel album or a cookbook series or something, but that can't all be blamed on Tamar.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 10:59:26 AM
I think they hold accountability for their actions. Are we not watching the same show because Trina and Traci has said numerous times that they shouldn't have done that. It's on camera for the entire world to see. Also on camera is Tamar cussing their asses out then her soot road manager kicking them out. Am mean
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Just Dropped In To See What Condition My Condition Was In on July 10, 2015, 11:34:48 AM
Okay let me say this and I really don't give a fuck if the two Tamar stans on this bitch feel some kind of way about it: Tamar is all about TAMAR. That's the bottom line. When Toni got her record deal, she hesitated at first because she didn't want to slight her sisters at all. She felt guilty throughout her own career because she was always trying to fix things between them. She put them in her videos, had them on tour with her, etc. When I saw Toni on the Libra tour, she actually let Tamar and Trina sing twice solo. Tamar performed "The Way It Should Be" and Trina performed another song. Tamar is very selfish, self-centered, and immature. She needs to take a hard look at herself because if she doesn't change her ways, she's going be alone. She overreacts to the smallest things and never takes accountability nor responsibility for things either. And she's not winning. It doesn't matter how many shows she's on. And technically the bitch only has one show. Tamar & Vince. Can't count Braxton Family Values because all of the sisters and Evelyn are in charge of that show. as for The Real, it's not just her show, so stop with that bullshit. K? I'm sick of these fags always trying to make Tamar out to be this huge thing when she's not. Toni is still bigger than her, FYI, Toni recently won a Grammy this year. That's the real ki cackle of it all.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ssw4919 on July 10, 2015, 12:39:14 PM
Quote from: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 10:59:26 AM
I think they hold accountability for their actions. Are we not watching the same show because Trina and Traci has said numerous times that they shouldn't have done that. It's on camera for the entire world to see. Also on camera is Tamar cussing their asses out then her soot road manager kicking them out. Am mean


Are we watching the same show?  When did they apologize for the performance?  Trina didn't want to do it, but she never apologized to Tamar after the fact.  By then, the focus was on Tamar's reaction.  Just like now, no one is focused on how the assistant shouldn't have been there.  The only matter is Tamar's reaction.  We didn't see footage of what they're accusing her of saying.  That's why we haven't seen flashbacks of it.  Even the producer said he didn't remember hearing parts Trina said Tamar yelled.  At one point, she said someone else heard it.  Evelyn was also kicked out, which doesn't sound right to me.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ssw4919 on July 10, 2015, 12:45:00 PM
Oh by the way, I'm not a Tamar stan.  Tamar does wrong on the show.  I think Tamar should have shown up for her nephew.  But I can see the BS from both sides.  They gang up on her and expect her to take full responsibility for not only her actions but THEIRS as well.  Everything isn't one-sided.

I thought Towanda was right last season when she was angry at Tamar supporting and defending a fan who insulted Towanda's kids.  Family should come first.  But now the situation is flipped and suddenly that rule only applies to Tamar, and now family loyalty doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Nine on July 10, 2015, 12:50:52 PM
Quote from: Jay. on July 10, 2015, 11:34:48 AM
Okay let me say this and I really don't give a fuck if the two Tamar stans on this bitch feel some kind of way about it: Tamar is all about TAMAR. That's the bottom line. When Toni got her record deal, she hesitated at first because she didn't want to slight her sisters at all. She felt guilty throughout her own career because she was always trying to fix things between them. She put them in her videos, had them on tour with her, etc. When I saw Toni on the Libra tour, she actually let Tamar and Trina sing twice solo. Tamar performed "The Way It Should Be" and Trina performed another song. Tamar is very selfish, self-centered, and immature. She needs to take a hard look at herself because if she doesn't change her ways, she's going be alone. She overreacts to the smallest things and never takes accountability nor responsibility for things either. And she's not winning. It doesn't matter how many shows she's on. And technically the bitch only has one show. Tamar & Vince. Can't count Braxton Family Values because all of the sisters and Evelyn are in charge of that show. as for The Real, it's not just her show, so stop with that bullshit. K? I'm sick of these fags always trying to make Tamar out to be this huge thing when she's not. Toni is still bigger than her, FYI, Toni recently won a Grammy this year. That's the real ki cackle of it all.

v
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Scott. on July 10, 2015, 01:06:36 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on July 10, 2015, 08:52:48 AM
But at which point is Tamar held accountable for her actions?

Right. She's a self absorbed bitch
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Zankou. on July 10, 2015, 01:09:12 PM
Quote from: Zero on July 10, 2015, 12:50:52 PM
Quote from: Jay. on July 10, 2015, 11:34:48 AM
Okay let me say this and I really don't give a fuck if the two Tamar stans on this bitch feel some kind of way about it: Tamar is all about TAMAR. That's the bottom line. When Toni got her record deal, she hesitated at first because she didn't want to slight her sisters at all. She felt guilty throughout her own career because she was always trying to fix things between them. She put them in her videos, had them on tour with her, etc. When I saw Toni on the Libra tour, she actually let Tamar and Trina sing twice solo. Tamar performed "The Way It Should Be" and Trina performed another song. Tamar is very selfish, self-centered, and immature. She needs to take a hard look at herself because if she doesn't change her ways, she's going be alone. She overreacts to the smallest things and never takes accountability nor responsibility for things either. And she's not winning. It doesn't matter how many shows she's on. And technically the bitch only has one show. Tamar & Vince. Can't count Braxton Family Values because all of the sisters and Evelyn are in charge of that show. as for The Real, it's not just her show, so stop with that bullshit. K? I'm sick of these fags always trying to make Tamar out to be this huge thing when she's not. Toni is still bigger than her, FYI, Toni recently won a Grammy this year. That's the real ki cackle of it all.

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Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Scott. on July 10, 2015, 01:09:28 PM
Quote from: Young on July 10, 2015, 07:02:56 AM
The way they didn't give a fuck when she broke down


I was PISSED

I wouldn't have either.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Zankou. on July 10, 2015, 01:11:19 PM
Quote from: SCOTTland on July 10, 2015, 01:09:28 PM
Quote from: Young on July 10, 2015, 07:02:56 AM
The way they didn't give a fuck when she broke down


I was PISSED

I wouldn't have either.

b
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: yummy on July 10, 2015, 01:16:23 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 10, 2015, 08:59:09 AM
Look, FUCK this ugly ass girl.

DFFVV>BBndndndnMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBNMMNBNN
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Scott. on July 10, 2015, 01:19:10 PM
Quote from: Young on July 10, 2015, 09:19:50 AM
Quote from: BigDawg on July 10, 2015, 09:18:34 AM
But Tamar's apologies are always so half assed and empty.
But at least she's apologizing
Wtf are they doing?

At least she's apologizing?  :plzstop: What the fuck is she apologizing for if she doesn't mean the shit.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: yummy on July 10, 2015, 01:19:45 PM
Quote from: Young on July 10, 2015, 09:03:28 AM
, Tamar has become an R&B superstar, 2x reality show star, daytime talk show host, clothing line owner, and just got a 4th show and two movie roles snagged.

vmmmmmn

I need you to type up my resume because the way you dress up Tamar and her bullshit accomplishments is very admirable.
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 01:22:14 PM
wow yeah the whole world isn't buying that muppets mess
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Nine on July 10, 2015, 01:33:50 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on July 10, 2015, 01:16:23 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 10, 2015, 08:59:09 AM
Look, FUCK this ugly ass girl.

DFFVV>BBndndndnMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBNMMNBNN

LDLKDFSMDFKLDFKLDSKLKLDSKLMKMLklkmlsadsadas

Girl is being a little generous
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Herb. on July 10, 2015, 02:29:44 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 10, 2015, 08:20:35 AM
It must really be some shit going on because that Bitch broke down and they ALL collectively gave her :ermm:
I think this "jealous" thing is such a cop out.  How are ALL of them jealous of her and to the point where she is breaking down in front of them and none of them believe it's genuine?  Nah it's deeper than "jealous". I DIED when she was in shambles and they all  :ohwow:
:kii:
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Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: BigDawg on July 10, 2015, 02:31:22 PM
Quote from: SCOTTland on July 10, 2015, 01:19:10 PM
Quote from: Young on July 10, 2015, 09:19:50 AM
Quote from: BigDawg on July 10, 2015, 09:18:34 AM
But Tamar's apologies are always so half assed and empty.
But at least she's apologizing
Wtf are they doing?

At least she's apologizing?  :plzstop: What the fuck is she apologizing for if she doesn't mean the shit.

!!!

That apology she gave Trina was so 3rd grade

Im sor' sor' sor' sor' sor'

Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: BigDawg on July 10, 2015, 02:31:49 PM
All these essay's tho...
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: Young on July 10, 2015, 04:28:56 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on July 10, 2015, 12:45:00 PM
Oh by the way, I'm not a Tamar stan.  Tamar does wrong on the show.  I think Tamar should have shown up for her nephew.  But I can see the BS from both sides.  They gang up on her and expect her to take full responsibility for not only her actions but THEIRS as well.  Everything isn't one-sided.

I thought Towanda was right last season when she was angry at Tamar supporting and defending a fan who insulted Towanda's kids.  Family should come first.  But now the situation is flipped and suddenly that rule only applies to Tamar, and now family loyalty doesn't matter.

!!!!!

They all want Tamar to be the blame and that ain't right
Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 04:48:37 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on July 10, 2015, 02:31:49 PM
All these essay's tho...

The girls are passionate about this Braxton mess. Is Tamar and Vince in here?

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Title: Re: Braxton Family Values MESS
Post by: BigDawg on July 10, 2015, 05:10:08 PM
Quote from: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on July 10, 2015, 04:48:37 PM
Quote from: BigDawg on July 10, 2015, 02:31:49 PM
All these essay's tho...

The girls are passionate about this Braxton mess. Is Tamar and Vince in here?

:damselindistress:

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