https://youtu.be/wrNi72cjDok
matthew bitch ass was trynna replace queen toya n tavia ever since the bills bills bills video
:bvy:
Not 26 minutes
Can someone summorize in 10 words?
CRINE! I thought that was Faith at first.
Not her turning down the offer to be in DC at first :uhh: :plzstop:
Quote from: squid on March 05, 2019, 01:47:13 PM
Not 26 minutes
Can someone summorize in 10 words?
king, just put it on in the background like a podcast mess. it's too much tea, some previously spilled, some brand new
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on March 05, 2019, 01:56:13 PM
Not her turning down the offer to be in DC at first :uhh: :plzstop:
cdscvdcvdcdcdccd
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on March 05, 2019, 01:56:13 PM
Not her turning down the offer to be in DC at first :uhh: :plzstop:
this SELECTIVE quee
This girl is always gonna be a mess
so they asked her to be IN the group the day after the Bills video shoot
sure Jan
I believe her
Now let me watch
Damns, she still cuter than Bey
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 02:25:23 PM
This girl is always gonna be a mess
so they asked her to be IN the group the day after the Bills video shoot
sure Jan
not sure what's so hard to believe abt that bby, seeing how the day one girls didn't know they were replaced till the say my name video mess DEBUTED
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 05, 2019, 02:59:03 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 02:25:23 PM
This girl is always gonna be a mess
so they asked her to be IN the group the day after the Bills video shoot
sure Jan
not sure what's so hard to believe abt that bby, seeing how the day one girls didn't know they were replaced till the say my name video mess DEBUTED
she didn't say she was gonna replace anyone this time though
they had just shot a video with her in it as an extra and all of the original girls. She probably misunderstood that they needed a dancer or something
Why was Mathew talking to her like that? :uhh:
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 03:18:43 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 05, 2019, 02:59:03 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 02:25:23 PM
This girl is always gonna be a mess
so they asked her to be IN the group the day after the Bills video shoot
sure Jan
not sure what's so hard to believe abt that bby, seeing how the day one girls didn't know they were replaced till the say my name video mess DEBUTED
she didn't say she was gonna replace anyone this time though
they had just shot a video with her in it as an extra and all of the original girls. She probably misunderstood that they needed a dancer or something
that's the way you seemed to take it on your initial post tho. so do I believe her or NOT bby. quee is stating facts here
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 05, 2019, 03:26:25 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 03:18:43 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 05, 2019, 02:59:03 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 02:25:23 PM
This girl is always gonna be a mess
so they asked her to be IN the group the day after the Bills video shoot
sure Jan
not sure what's so hard to believe abt that bby, seeing how the day one girls didn't know they were replaced till the say my name video mess DEBUTED
she didn't say she was gonna replace anyone this time though
they had just shot a video with her in it as an extra and all of the original girls. She probably misunderstood that they needed a dancer or something
that's the way you seemed to take it on your initial post tho. so do I believe her or NOT bby. quee is stating facts here
Im confused here are you asking yourself? :dead:
I took it as she was gonna be member #5 she didn't say replace
and it sounds like the group was on good terms at that point
Yeah I was unclear about that too.
This suggests they planned on replacing those girls months in advance? 🤔
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 03:28:49 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 05, 2019, 03:26:25 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 03:18:43 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 05, 2019, 02:59:03 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 02:25:23 PM
This girl is always gonna be a mess
so they asked her to be IN the group the day after the Bills video shoot
sure Jan
not sure what's so hard to believe abt that bby, seeing how the day one girls didn't know they were replaced till the say my name video mess DEBUTED
she didn't say she was gonna replace anyone this time though
they had just shot a video with her in it as an extra and all of the original girls. She probably misunderstood that they needed a dancer or something
that's the way you seemed to take it on your initial post tho. so do I believe her or NOT bby. quee is stating facts here
Im confused here are you asking yourself? :dead:
I took it as she was gonna be member #5 she didn't say replace
and it sounds like the group was on good terms at that point
ashhfdsff typo bby i was asking YOU.
but it's clear to me, FAGtthew had plans to replace the gorls well in advance
Well the members have said that he threatened to temporarily replace them on certain tour dates
like LaTavia got sick and he wanted their dancer Janella to stand in for some Euro tour dates
and I think Solange was on stand-by too
but as far as offering a full time slot in the group, I doubt it highly
especially Farrah stiff, non-singing self
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 03:18:43 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 05, 2019, 02:59:03 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 02:25:23 PM
This girl is always gonna be a mess
so they asked her to be IN the group the day after the Bills video shoot
sure Jan
not sure what's so hard to believe abt that bby, seeing how the day one girls didn't know they were replaced till the say my name video mess DEBUTED
she didn't say she was gonna replace anyone this time though
they had just shot a video with her in it as an extra and all of the original girls. She probably misunderstood that they needed a dancer or something
No there were auditions to be in Destiny's Child around the time the Bill Bills Bills video was made.
It made me sad when she said that her and Michelle were treated like trash and nobody cared about them. I can definitely believe that.
She said Beyonce's debut album was in the works back then and she was meant to go solo all the way back then. The only reason they made other albums was because of the backlash from the public due to the removal Letoya and Latavia. It wasn't a good time for a solo mess cos the public was against her at the time.
She also said Matthew was known as Ike for his rude and controlling behavior. That is definitely believable.
This girl is credible. She wasn't throwing anyone under the bus. Just telling her truth. Everything she said made sense.
Quote from: Michelle Williams on March 05, 2019, 04:50:49 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 03:18:43 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 05, 2019, 02:59:03 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 02:25:23 PM
This girl is always gonna be a mess
so they asked her to be IN the group the day after the Bills video shoot
sure Jan
not sure what's so hard to believe abt that bby, seeing how the day one girls didn't know they were replaced till the say my name video mess DEBUTED
she didn't say she was gonna replace anyone this time though
they had just shot a video with her in it as an extra and all of the original girls. She probably misunderstood that they needed a dancer or something
No there were auditions to be in Destiny's Child around the time the Bill Bills Bills video was made.
It made me sad when she said that her and Michelle were treated like trash and nobody cared about them. I can definitely believe that.
She said Beyonce's debut album was in the works back then and she was meant to go solo all the way back then. The only reason they made other albums was because of the backlash from the public due to the removal Letoya and Latavia. It wasn't a good time for a solo mess cos the public was against her at the time.
She also said Matthew was known as Ike for his rude and controlling behavior. That is definitely believable.
This girl is credible. She wasn't throwing anyone under the bus. Just telling her truth. Everything she said made sense.
!!!!!!!! quee gave pure non-shady FACTS
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 04:09:51 PM
Well the members have said that he threatened to temporarily replace them on certain tour dates
like LaTavia got sick and he wanted their dancer Janella to stand in for some Euro tour dates
and I think Solange was on stand-by too
but as far as offering a full time slot in the group, I doubt it highly
especially Farrah stiff, non-singing self
But they did offer her a full time slot :uhh:
Quote from: squid on March 05, 2019, 01:47:13 PM
Not 26 minutes
Can someone summorize in 10 words?
:kii:
Quote from: Michelle Williams on March 05, 2019, 04:50:49 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 03:18:43 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 05, 2019, 02:59:03 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 02:25:23 PM
This girl is always gonna be a mess
so they asked her to be IN the group the day after the Bills video shoot
sure Jan
not sure what's so hard to believe abt that bby, seeing how the day one girls didn't know they were replaced till the say my name video mess DEBUTED
she didn't say she was gonna replace anyone this time though
they had just shot a video with her in it as an extra and all of the original girls. She probably misunderstood that they needed a dancer or something
No there were auditions to be in Destiny's Child around the time the Bill Bills Bills video was made.
It made me sad when she said that her and Michelle were treated like trash and nobody cared about them. I can definitely believe that.
She said Beyonce's debut album was in the works back then and she was meant to go solo all the way back then. The only reason they made other albums was because of the backlash from the public due to the removal Letoya and Latavia. It wasn't a good time for a solo mess cos the public was against her at the time.
She also said Matthew was known as Ike for his rude and controlling behavior. That is definitely believable.
This girl is credible. She wasn't throwing anyone under the bus. Just telling her truth. Everything she said made sense.
!!!
Quote from: 4everSLAYanafan on March 05, 2019, 03:24:06 PM
Why was Mathew talking to her like that? :uhh:
because she's a ho
Why is she talking about Michelle like she doesnt have multiple drunk and disorderly citations?
:plzstop:
N this bitch so pissed. Both Bey AMD Kelly were going to go solo after TWOTW. Kelly's album was finished andvready to go first.
Bey just had Brown Eyes, Independent Women II and Dangerously In Love at that point.
https://youtu.be/wrNi72cjDok
This lazy bitch is always babbling. Of course they were temporary but Michelle made them realize what they were missing.
d
Farrah..... you just didnt FIT.
Too short, couldnt sing, and didnt click with the girls.
http://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=69083.0
Quote from: Baphzier. on March 05, 2019, 11:26:41 PM
d
Farrah..... you just didnt FIT.
Too short, couldnt sing, and didnt click with the girls.
bcncn how did she even make it in? I think Matthew was just tryna fuck
Cuz
n
They auditioned plenty of girls
Quote from: 1RIG on March 05, 2019, 11:47:45 PM
Quote from: Baphzier. on March 05, 2019, 11:26:41 PM
d
Farrah..... you just didnt FIT.
Too short, couldnt sing, and didnt click with the girls.
bcncn how did she even make it in? I think Matthew was just tryna fuck
Cuz
n
They auditioned plenty of girls
Was just going to say this. Matthew def fucked Farrah.
I mean.. I thought this was public knowledge. I wish she would shut tf up. No one cares.
She lied a lot here imo. She knows she can get away with it because she know no one from the DC camp is going to acknowledge her existence in order to give a rebuttal.
No way in hell Maffew was paying a stand-in member no 50k a month at that stage in DC's life just to lip sync to LeToya and LaTavia's vocal and awkwardly dance in the background. She was dead set on dropping tidbits to influence people into believing she was soooo coined up before and after the group. Pulled up to the vidja in my Benz! 50k a month!!!! Travelled the world!!! Gur hush! :hmph:
She also says they say she was in the group for significantly longer than the six months that has been publically claimed (it was 4 months actually), because according to her she starts the clock from the time when she actually started rehearsing but earlier she'd said that she only had a 2 weeks rehearsal period to learn everything they did in 10 years before she immediately got thrusted into the group. 4 months and 2 weeks is still "4 months".
u gorls want the DC camp to be innocent so bad afhgdssdcg give it UP. matthew was a bitch nigga period. that's why TF he kicked letoya abd latavia out. they wanted new management. u think he wasn't the same monster to farrah as he was to them? gorls BYE
farrah >>>>>>> SHITthew
Quote from: 1RIG on March 05, 2019, 11:47:45 PM
Quote from: Baphzier. on March 05, 2019, 11:26:41 PM
d
Farrah..... you just didnt FIT.
Too short, couldnt sing, and didnt click with the girls.
bcncn how did she even make it in? I think Matthew was just tryna fuck
Cuz
n
They auditioned plenty of girls
They auditioned her as a dancer and she already knew the moves.
They shouldve just added solange tbh.
I'm just glad the DC2 think didn't happen.
Kelly would have been an afterthought if it was just the two of them n
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on March 06, 2019, 02:44:14 AM
I'm just glad the DC2 think didn't happen.
Kelly would have been an afterthought if it was just the two of them n
afhfsghds would have. she was always an afterthought
chocolate quee self
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 05, 2019, 02:59:03 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 02:25:23 PM
This girl is always gonna be a mess
so they asked her to be IN the group the day after the Bills video shoot
sure Jan
not sure what's so hard to believe abt that bby, seeing how the day one girls didn't know they were replaced till the say my name video mess DEBUTED
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: squid on March 05, 2019, 01:47:13 PM
Not 26 minutes
Can someone summorize in 10 words?
she got kicked the fuck out and never recovered ever
I actually don't get likeable from her tbhon...she's actually the kinda girl I think I'd HATE if I knew her. & I can tell she's a pessimist.
but I do believe her story in its entirety
$50k a month did sound like a lot though
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 06, 2019, 05:58:53 AM
I actually don't get likeable from her tbhon...she's actually the kinda girl I think I'd HATE if I knew her
why hun?
Quote from: Michelle Williams on March 05, 2019, 04:50:49 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 03:18:43 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 05, 2019, 02:59:03 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 02:25:23 PM
This girl is always gonna be a mess
so they asked her to be IN the group the day after the Bills video shoot
sure Jan
not sure what's so hard to believe abt that bby, seeing how the day one girls didn't know they were replaced till the say my name video mess DEBUTED
she didn't say she was gonna replace anyone this time though
they had just shot a video with her in it as an extra and all of the original girls. She probably misunderstood that they needed a dancer or something
No there were auditions to be in Destiny's Child around the time the Bill Bills Bills video was made.
It made me sad when she said that her and Michelle were treated like trash and nobody cared about them. I can definitely believe that.
She said Beyonce's debut album was in the works back then and she was meant to go solo all the way back then. The only reason they made other albums was because of the backlash from the public due to the removal Letoya and Latavia. It wasn't a good time for a solo mess cos the public was against her at the time.
She also said Matthew was known as Ike for his rude and controlling behavior. That is definitely believable.
This girl is credible. She wasn't throwing anyone under the bus. Just telling her truth. Everything she said made sense.
the stuff she's saying is conflicting
So Beyoncé was going solo but they still wanted to add girls to the group at the same time? Farrah was trying to show all of the girls around LA and at the same time replace them in the group?
and Farrah told them no, and they just gave up looking for anyone else and just decided to keep the group as it was? Yea right
It doesn't make sense, ppl just wanna believe anything against Bey
n
I know Matt is FILTH
but
ch
This gor craz'
This lying ass Gerbil
quee kinda has 'em ironed out flat in here huh
wit extra starch
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 06, 2019, 01:49:28 AM
u gorls want the DC camp to be innocent so bad afhgdssdcg give it UP. matthew was a bitch nigga period. that's why TF he kicked letoya abd latavia out. they wanted new management. u think he wasn't the same monster to farrah as he was to them? gorls BYE
farrah >>>>>>> SHITthew
This woman has nothing going for herself so she keeps telling the same fabricated dc stories over and over
:kii:
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 06, 2019, 06:05:40 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 06, 2019, 05:58:53 AM
I actually don't get likeable from her tbhon...she's actually the kinda girl I think I'd HATE if I knew her
why hun?
ddjfkl
idk She seems so fake to me... and annoying.
:plzstop:
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 06, 2019, 03:22:31 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on March 06, 2019, 02:44:14 AM
I'm just glad the DC2 think didn't happen.
Kelly would have been an afterthought if it was just the two of them n
afhfsghds would have. she was always an afterthought
chocolate quee self
:plzstop:
Dead ass
Quote from: Kalifornia on March 06, 2019, 11:28:36 AM
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 06, 2019, 01:49:28 AM
u gorls want the DC camp to be innocent so bad afhgdssdcg give it UP. matthew was a bitch nigga period. that's why TF he kicked letoya abd latavia out. they wanted new management. u think he wasn't the same monster to farrah as he was to them? gorls BYE
farrah >>>>>>> SHITthew
How would dc work if half of the members are managed by someone else?
Thats stupid and letoya and latvia deserved to be kicked out.
Not matthew's fault they were too busy fucking jagged edge than taking things seriously :dead:
f
Gotta love when fans refute the narratives of ppl who were actually there :unsure:
Quote from: Kurama on March 06, 2019, 12:25:34 PM
Gotta love when fans refute the narratives of ppl who were actually there :unsure:
isn't it a kii?
:plzstop:
Funny how they only wanted new management when those ghetto ass jagged edge twins got in their ear
Dick is powerful :kii:
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:19:02 PM
How would dc work if half of the members are managed by someone else?
Thats stupid and letoya and latvia deserved to be kicked out.
Not matthew's fault they were too busy fucking jagged edge than taking things seriously :dead:
r u familiar with the way management works? my spiriting is giving me a no mess but i wanna give u a chance to answer. be honest bby.
Quote from: Glock on March 06, 2019, 12:26:06 PM
Quote from: Kurama on March 06, 2019, 12:25:34 PM
Gotta love when fans refute the narratives of ppl who were actually there :unsure:
isn't it a kii?
:plzstop:
LIKE...
Welcome to the Internet and social media
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 06, 2019, 12:26:56 PM
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:19:02 PM
How would dc work if half of the members are managed by someone else?
Thats stupid and letoya and latvia deserved to be kicked out.
Not matthew's fault they were too busy fucking jagged edge than taking things seriously :dead:
r u familiar with the way management works? my spiriting is giving me a no mess but i wanna give u a chance to answer. be honest bby.
How many groups had different management among members? And how did that actually work out? Answer that.
f
yeah if some girls want different management then clearly they are being mistreated and misrepresented
and judging by the way the DC3 girls describe him or have cut all ties with him he wasn't good to Letoya and Latavia
im sure that makes it much easier for alll the girls (original and new) to maintain friendships
But yea I don't believe this lying alcoholic girl
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:33:21 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 06, 2019, 12:26:56 PM
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:19:02 PM
How would dc work if half of the members are managed by someone else?
Thats stupid and letoya and latvia deserved to be kicked out.
Not matthew's fault they were too busy fucking jagged edge than taking things seriously :dead:
r u familiar with the way management works? my spiriting is giving me a no mess but i wanna give u a chance to answer. be honest bby.
How many groups had different management among members? And how did that actually work out? Answer that.
this deflection. is it a ricochet? hunny bun xscape just reunited, under different management, and had a very successful (sold out, i believe) tour. it's really not hard.
how many ground have had different managers and DIDN'T work out because of it? answer that 4 me nut cluster.
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 06, 2019, 12:38:37 PM
But yea I don't believe this lying alcoholic girl
Even if she's telling the truth, nothing she said implicates Bey or Kelly.
It just proves Matthew had a plan for whenever the girls left/he fired them. Considering all the shady shit he's done over the years this is lite work tbh ^o)
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on March 06, 2019, 12:42:50 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 06, 2019, 12:38:37 PM
But yea I don't believe this lying alcoholic girl
Even if she's telling the truth, nothing she said implicates Bey or Kelly.
It just proves Matthew had a plan for whenever the girls left/he fired them. Considering all the shady shit he's done over the years this is lite work tbh ^o)
like i'm SO confused as to why any of this is hard to believe.
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/58dd5de97491f39c02fe58b0e9c436e3/tenor.gif?itemid=11847362)
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on March 06, 2019, 12:42:50 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 06, 2019, 12:38:37 PM
But yea I don't believe this lying alcoholic girl
Even if she's telling the truth, nothing she said implicates Bey or Kelly.
It just proves Matthew had a plan for whenever the girls left/he fired them. Considering all the shady shit he's done over the years this is lite work tbh ^o)
well part of it, where Mathew was mean to her when she was sick I can see happening
Just she's kinda overselling herself on this is my main thing I don't believe. She was so experienced in the industry, she was the lead in her group, she was rich with her own car, and now DC wanted her to leave her group for them, and she turned them down. Then they gave her ANOTHER chance later
I just...
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 06, 2019, 12:41:19 PM
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:33:21 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 06, 2019, 12:26:56 PM
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:19:02 PM
How would dc work if half of the members are managed by someone else?
Thats stupid and letoya and latvia deserved to be kicked out.
Not matthew's fault they were too busy fucking jagged edge than taking things seriously :dead:
r u familiar with the way management works? my spiriting is giving me a no mess but i wanna give u a chance to answer. be honest bby.
How many groups had different management among members? And how did that actually work out? Answer that.
this deflection. is it a ricochet? hunny bun xscape just reunited, under different management, and had a very successful (sold out, i believe) tour. it's really not hard.
how many ground have had different managers and DIDN'T work out because of it? answer that 4 me nut cluster.
Xscape isnt currently selling millions of albums worldwide and having chart topping hits at the moment, if they were then it would be difficult to have several different managers managing them.
They are on a reunion tour at concert halls and small events. how hard is that to manage? They are not putting out anything :kii:
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:53:30 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 06, 2019, 12:41:19 PM
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:33:21 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 06, 2019, 12:26:56 PM
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:19:02 PM
How would dc work if half of the members are managed by someone else?
Thats stupid and letoya and latvia deserved to be kicked out.
Not matthew's fault they were too busy fucking jagged edge than taking things seriously :dead:
r u familiar with the way management works? my spiriting is giving me a no mess but i wanna give u a chance to answer. be honest bby.
How many groups had different management among members? And how did that actually work out? Answer that.
this deflection. is it a ricochet? hunny bun xscape just reunited, under different management, and had a very successful (sold out, i believe) tour. it's really not hard.
how many ground have had different managers and DIDN'T work out because of it? answer that 4 me nut cluster.
Xscape isnt currently selling millions of albums worldwide and having chart topping hits at the moment, if they were then it would be difficult to have several different managers managing them.
They are on a reunion tour at concert halls and small events. how hard is that to manage? They are not putting out anything :kii:
so basically your question was answered and you couldn't answer mine. got it.
Matthew is not perfect but in this industry you HAVE to be cut throat.
Its eat or be eaten. And as a result he's groomed one of the biggest female entertainers of all time :receipts:
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 06, 2019, 12:54:47 PM
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:53:30 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 06, 2019, 12:41:19 PM
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:33:21 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 06, 2019, 12:26:56 PM
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:19:02 PM
How would dc work if half of the members are managed by someone else?
Thats stupid and letoya and latvia deserved to be kicked out.
Not matthew's fault they were too busy fucking jagged edge than taking things seriously :dead:
r u familiar with the way management works? my spiriting is giving me a no mess but i wanna give u a chance to answer. be honest bby.
How many groups had different management among members? And how did that actually work out? Answer that.
this deflection. is it a ricochet? hunny bun xscape just reunited, under different management, and had a very successful (sold out, i believe) tour. it's really not hard.
how many ground have had different managers and DIDN'T work out because of it? answer that 4 me nut cluster.
Xscape isnt currently selling millions of albums worldwide and having chart topping hits at the moment, if they were then it would be difficult to have several different managers managing them.
They are on a reunion tour at concert halls and small events. how hard is that to manage? They are not putting out anything :kii:
so basically your question was answered and you couldn't answer mine. got it.
You mentioned a retired washed up group as an example compared to dc who were the biggest and ACTIVE female group at the time? :kii:
What exactly are xscapes managers managing? :plzstop:
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 06, 2019, 12:50:37 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on March 06, 2019, 12:42:50 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 06, 2019, 12:38:37 PM
But yea I don't believe this lying alcoholic girl
Even if she's telling the truth, nothing she said implicates Bey or Kelly.
It just proves Matthew had a plan for whenever the girls left/he fired them. Considering all the shady shit he's done over the years this is lite work tbh ^o)
well part of it, where Mathew was mean to her when she was sick I can see happening
Just she's kinda overselling herself on this is my main thing I don't believe. She was so experienced in the industry, she was the lead in her group, she was rich with her own car, and now DC wanted her to leave her group for them, and she turned them down. Then they gave her ANOTHER chance later
I just...
KLSNLSDSKLDKD
I believe the car story cause she mentions it ALL THE TIME.
The rest i'm sure is embellised i'm sure
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 06, 2019, 12:54:47 PM
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:53:30 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 06, 2019, 12:41:19 PM
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:33:21 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 06, 2019, 12:26:56 PM
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:19:02 PM
How would dc work if half of the members are managed by someone else?
Thats stupid and letoya and latvia deserved to be kicked out.
Not matthew's fault they were too busy fucking jagged edge than taking things seriously :dead:
r u familiar with the way management works? my spiriting is giving me a no mess but i wanna give u a chance to answer. be honest bby.
How many groups had different management among members? And how did that actually work out? Answer that.
this deflection. is it a ricochet? hunny bun xscape just reunited, under different management, and had a very successful (sold out, i believe) tour. it's really not hard.
how many ground have had different managers and DIDN'T work out because of it? answer that 4 me nut cluster.
Xscape isnt currently selling millions of albums worldwide and having chart topping hits at the moment, if they were then it would be difficult to have several different managers managing them.
They are on a reunion tour at concert halls and small events. how hard is that to manage? They are not putting out anything :kii:
so basically your question was answered and you still couldn't answer mine. got it.
A group that brings in NO REVENUE has different managers. :kii
You proved my point. :plzstop:
Quote from: Kurama on March 06, 2019, 12:25:34 PM
Gotta love when fans refute the narratives of ppl who were actually there :unsure:
Exactly :dead:
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:26:52 PM
Funny how they only wanted new management when those ghetto ass jagged edge twins got in their ear
Dick is powerful :kii:
Did they tell you that themselves?
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:59:54 PM
A group that brings in NO REVENUE has different managers. :kii
You proved my point. :plzstop:
no revenue huh
afhdshd it's always such a kii when the gorls have no point or argument so they just start saying ANYTHING
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 06, 2019, 01:05:29 PM
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:59:54 PM
A group that brings in NO REVENUE has different managers. :kii
You proved my point. :plzstop:
no revenue huh
afhdshd it's always such a kii when the gorls have no point or argument so they just start saying ANYTHING
What money are they bringing in? Its not much to manage :kii:
Compared to dc making MILLIONS,. Aint nobody got time for that multi manage shit.
Who let this thing come back
Quote from: Glock on March 06, 2019, 01:15:45 PM
Who let this thing come back
I know you and the homegirls made that petition to get rid of me
That inspired me to return from Hell. :flamebroiled:
Quote from: Glock on March 06, 2019, 01:15:45 PM
Who let this thing come back
literally making NO points but steady talking
is it a spam bot
:diddraispoot:
So what multi platinum group had different managers within the group while they were bringing in several millions of dollars?
I didnt ask for retired senior citizen acts :kii:
You never answered the question :receipts:
I was the Beyoncé of my own group :plzstop:
Girl you can't sing. So if you were the lead no wonder that group never made it :plzstop:
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 06, 2019, 01:37:05 PM
Quote from: Glock on March 06, 2019, 01:15:45 PM
Who let this thing come back
literally making NO points but steady talking
is it a spam bot
:diddraispoot:
basically
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 06, 2019, 06:05:40 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 06, 2019, 05:58:53 AM
I actually don't get likeable from her tbhon...she's actually the kinda girl I think I'd HATE if I knew her
why hun?
right like :uhh:
no reason to hate her really...must be for personal amusement...she's actually a ki and quite interesting I hope her EP is Dope just to spite all you against her for no reason lmao sad.....i hope she's grows more confident in her acting and singing and find solo success.
Quote from: Kurama on March 06, 2019, 12:25:34 PM
Gotta love when fans refute the narratives of ppl who were actually there :unsure:
v
Like...what?
This ho is known liar.
Quote from: Kalifornia on March 06, 2019, 11:28:36 AM
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 06, 2019, 01:49:28 AM
u gorls want the DC camp to be innocent so bad afhgdssdcg give it UP. matthew was a bitch nigga period. that's why TF he kicked letoya abd latavia out. they wanted new management. u think he wasn't the same monster to farrah as he was to them? gorls BYE
farrah >>>>>>> SHITthew
!!!! right they also want everybody to look like jealous liars, underworking bey haters as if nothing Farrah said makes sense and it all conflicts...FOH
I need receipts and proof of Farrah lying on them and no I don't want her stale ass mugshots and criminal records or an interview of bey saying/singing Farrah is a liar. This girl don't have shit to gain she's just telling HER experience.
Quote from: Kurama on March 06, 2019, 12:25:34 PM
Gotta love when fans refute the narratives of ppl who were actually there :unsure:
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Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 06, 2019, 07:25:58 AM
Quote from: Michelle Williams on March 05, 2019, 04:50:49 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 03:18:43 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 05, 2019, 02:59:03 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 05, 2019, 02:25:23 PM
This girl is always gonna be a mess
so they asked her to be IN the group the day after the Bills video shoot
sure Jan
not sure what's so hard to believe abt that bby, seeing how the day one girls didn't know they were replaced till the say my name video mess DEBUTED
she didn't say she was gonna replace anyone this time though
they had just shot a video with her in it as an extra and all of the original girls. She probably misunderstood that they needed a dancer or something
No there were auditions to be in Destiny's Child around the time the Bill Bills Bills video was made.
It made me sad when she said that her and Michelle were treated like trash and nobody cared about them. I can definitely believe that.
She said Beyonce's debut album was in the works back then and she was meant to go solo all the way back then. The only reason they made other albums was because of the backlash from the public due to the removal Letoya and Latavia. It wasn't a good time for a solo mess cos the public was against her at the time.
She also said Matthew was known as Ike for his rude and controlling behavior. That is definitely believable.
This girl is credible. She wasn't throwing anyone under the bus. Just telling her truth. Everything she said made sense.
the stuff she's saying is conflicting
So Beyoncé was going solo but they still wanted to add girls to the group at the same time? Farrah was trying to show all of the girls around LA and at the same time replace them in the group?
and Farrah told them no, and they just gave up looking for anyone else and just decided to keep the group as it was? Yea right
It doesn't make sense, ppl just wanna believe anything against Bey
This is against Matt they girls has always made it about him this has little to nothing to do with Bey she so happens to be an attachment, and nothing negative was said against her, this is about her selfish Father PERIODt
What has fernanda accomplished since freeing herself from matthew 19 years ago? :plzstop:
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:19:02 PM
How would dc work if half of the members are managed by someone else?
Thats stupid and letoya and latvia deserved to be kicked out. :ermm:
Not matthew's fault they were too busy fucking jagged edge than taking things seriously :dead: Petty and out of touch...Who they were fucking isn't relevant and wouldn't of changed a thing. It's also nobody's business like who cares... as long as Matt could groom and control them, Keep in mind he kicked their moms off tour buses to achieve this control, meanwhile him and Tina was chillin' on the bus going any and everywhere with these teen girls.
and it's simple, It just would have worked. It wasn't impossible or un heard of.
However, Matt refused to agree. Business can work in any kind of way. if they can have their own agents and side individual deals like Farrah or any other Celeb who's in a group, or group environment, having a personal manager, lawyer or whatever is the same difference.
Mathew needed to be the one to navigate and control DC's journey into bey's solo career which he eventually did during and shortly after Survivor
Matthew had one goal, and one girl in mind.He didn't want to share that with any other manager or anyone. It didn't even matter if all of the girls had equal talent or not. This is all on him....Bey don't even fuck with him, she barely talks about him anymore that should tell you enough, he was a controlling, verbally/mentally abusive stage father. sidenote: him cheating on Tina was the straw that finally broke her back.
Quote from: LetMeHearYouSæ...G R A MM Y on March 06, 2019, 02:56:00 PM
What has fernanda accomplished since freeing herself from matthew 19 years ago? :plzstop:
Just because she didn't "BLOW UP" like bey or anyone doesn't mean we can be so sure to ask what has she accomplished since then.It's super shallow. I'm sure as a grown woman she took care of herself by any means like the rest of us people have to do, she's just another girl like bey and the rest...she looks damn good and seems to be happy too so she must be doing good enough. it doesn't even seem like she looking for sympathy like at all, she's ki ki-ing down this entire interview.
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 06, 2019, 12:38:37 PM
But yea I don't believe this lying alcoholic girl
hmm an imperfect human who enjoys drinking a lot so that proves she shit and a liar,
a drunk man never tells tales lol
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 06, 2019, 12:41:19 PM
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:33:21 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on March 06, 2019, 12:26:56 PM
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:19:02 PM
How would dc work if half of the members are managed by someone else?
Thats stupid and letoya and latvia deserved to be kicked out.
Not matthew's fault they were too busy fucking jagged edge than taking things seriously :dead:
r u familiar with the way management works? my spiriting is giving me a no mess but i wanna give u a chance to answer. be honest bby.
How many groups had different management among members? And how did that actually work out? Answer that.
this deflection. is it a ricochet? hunny bun xscape just reunited, under different management, and had a very successful (sold out, i believe) tour. it's really not hard.
how many ground have had different managers and DIDN'T work out because of it? answer that 4 me nut cluster.
:ack: sure did and nothing is new under the sun if Xscape is doing it now, believe it's been happening in the business forever :gotchafag:
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 06, 2019, 12:50:37 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on March 06, 2019, 12:42:50 PM
Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on March 06, 2019, 12:38:37 PM
But yea I don't believe this lying alcoholic girl
Even if she's telling the truth, nothing she said implicates Bey or Kelly.
It just proves Matthew had a plan for whenever the girls left/he fired them. Considering all the shady shit he's done over the years this is lite work tbh ^o)
well part of it, where Mathew was mean to her when she was sick I can see happening
Just she's kinda overselling herself on this is my main thing I don't believe. She was so experienced in the industry, she was the lead in her group, she was rich with her own car, and now DC wanted her to leave her group for them, and she turned them down. Then they gave her ANOTHER chance later
I just...
I believe it all. Would you hire a random bum off the street (ALL JOKES ON THE GIRLS ASIDE BECAUSE YALL PETTY) to join a established successful group or would you hire someone with experience who also looks the part and you could train?? Hell Walmart would have hired her if she had some sort of experience lol. nothing she said sounds unbelievable. y'all have to remember Hollywood is small, her story makes sense.
Quote from: 4everSLAYanafan on March 06, 2019, 03:18:40 PM
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:19:02 PM
How would dc work if half of the members are managed by someone else?
Thats stupid and letoya and latvia deserved to be kicked out. :ermm:
Not matthew's fault they were too busy fucking jagged edge than taking things seriously :dead: Petty and out of touch...Who they were fucking isn't relevant and wouldn't of changed a thing. It's also nobody's business like who cares... as long as Matt could groom and control them, Keep in mind he kicked their moms off tour buses to achieve this control, meanwhile him and Tina was chillin' on the bus going any and everywhere with these teen girls.
and it's simple, It just would have worked. It wasn't impossible or un heard of.
However, Matt refused to agree. Business can work in any kind of way. if they can have their own agents and side individual deals like Farrah or any other Celeb who's in a group, or group environment, having a personal manager, lawyer or whatever is the same difference.
Mathew needed to be the one to navigate and control DC's journey into bey's solo career which he eventually did during and shortly after Survivor
Matthew had one goal, and one girl in mind.He didn't want to share that with any other manager or anyone. It didn't even matter if all of the girls had equal talent or not. This is all on him....Bey don't even fuck with him, she barely talks about him anymore that should tell you enough, he was a controlling, verbally/mentally abusive stage father. sidenote: him cheating on Tina was the straw that finally broke her back.
They only wanted new management because of jagged edge.
Sure, Matthew is a piece of shit, but it had less to do with him and more so their own egos.
Beyonce was ready to take her career in her own hands. Nothing wrong with that. She outgrew him. And with him cheating, it was no love lost.
Rayana lashed Gen and Ray in hea
Quote from: Glock on March 06, 2019, 05:31:34 PM
Rayana lashed Gen and Ray in hea
You gotten soft since you're backup team isnt around anymore.
This isn't the glock I remember.
Quote from: Kurama on March 06, 2019, 12:25:34 PM
Gotta love when fans refute the narratives of ppl who were actually there :unsure:
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 06, 2019, 06:00:51 AM
$50k a month did sound like a lot though
!!!! It's not believable at all.
LeToya and LaTavia's PRIMARY reason for their unhappiness and wanting seperate management was money, according to them they had not made enough during their years in DC to even buy themselves cars, but we are supposed to believe Farrah who actually deserved to be paid lint for her efforts, made $300k+ for 6 months lip syncing in the group.
So basically what we are saying here is that Matthew was actually ridiculously generous, he just fucking hated L&L's guts, that's the only way to make Farrah's lie make sense.
Farrah knows she's seen as the broke washed up village idiot who blew a once in a lifetime chance to be a part of the biggest girl group of all time, and this interview was a not so subtle attempt to dispel that public perception. Anyone with a shred of objectivity could see right through her bullshit.
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 05:30:02 PM
Quote from: 4everSLAYanafan on March 06, 2019, 03:18:40 PM
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:19:02 PM
How would dc work if half of the members are managed by someone else?
Thats stupid and letoya and latvia deserved to be kicked out. :ermm:
Not matthew's fault they were too busy fucking jagged edge than taking things seriously :dead: Petty and out of touch...Who they were fucking isn't relevant and wouldn't of changed a thing. It's also nobody's business like who cares... as long as Matt could groom and control them, Keep in mind he kicked their moms off tour buses to achieve this control, meanwhile him and Tina was chillin' on the bus going any and everywhere with these teen girls.
and it's simple, It just would have worked. It wasn't impossible or un heard of.
However, Matt refused to agree. Business can work in any kind of way. if they can have their own agents and side individual deals like Farrah or any other Celeb who's in a group, or group environment, having a personal manager, lawyer or whatever is the same difference.
Mathew needed to be the one to navigate and control DC's journey into bey's solo career which he eventually did during and shortly after Survivor
Matthew had one goal, and one girl in mind.He didn't want to share that with any other manager or anyone. It didn't even matter if all of the girls had equal talent or not. This is all on him....Bey don't even fuck with him, she barely talks about him anymore that should tell you enough, he was a controlling, verbally/mentally abusive stage father. sidenote: him cheating on Tina was the straw that finally broke her back.
They only wanted new management because of jagged edge.
Sure, Matthew is a piece of shit, but it had less to do with him and more so their own egos.
Beyonce was ready to take her career in her own hands. Nothing wrong with that. She outgrew him. And with him cheating, it was no love lost. the cheating fucked them all up like :uhh:
If someone in your same field can see your getting cheated and mistreated and let's you know,
What would you do?....take action as they did right!
and if they didn't have a good complaint no one would have represented them...
This was about their integrity lots of us here don't have that, They would have stayed for the fuck shit otherwise. Only one of them was dating a member from JE,
Once again who they were dating is irrelevant,
JE saw Letoya's mom getting kicked off busses and mistreated it's on their unsung episode.
In Beys "Life Is But A Dream" she clearly states her and her father are struggling with their bond due to his actions, she BEEN wanting to fly on her own for the longest,
Matthew actions added to it....it was lots of love lost.... just two years ago Mathew was crying on live because she wouldn't take his calls, he couldn't even congratulate her on "Lemonade" so he's cries on instagram to congratulate her so.... :uhh:
all these former members have similar stories and they don't conflict, Hell, Michelle's and Latavia's story on their depression is almost identical minus the drinking. I doubt it has anything to do with ego,
none of these girls made a living or quickly wrote a book on being a former member of destiny's child they have moved on, they all seem to point to Matthew even TINA SOLO AND BEY
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Quote from: FadedEnvy on March 06, 2019, 06:10:25 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 06, 2019, 06:00:51 AM
$50k a month did sound like a lot though
!!!! It's not believable at all.
LeToya and LaTavia's PRIMARY reason for their unhappiness and wanting seperate management was money, according to them they had not made enough during their years in DC to even buy themselves cars, but we are supposed to believe Farrah who actually deserved to be paid lint for her efforts, made $300k+ for 6 months lip syncing in the group.
So basically what we are saying here is that Matthew was actually ridiculously generous, he just fucking hated L&L's guts, that's the only way to make Farrah's lie make sense.
Farrah knows she's seen as the broke washed up village idiot who blew a once in a lifetime chance to be a part of the biggest girl group of all time, and this interview was a not so subtle attempt to dispel that public perception. Anyone with a shred of objectivity could see right through her bullshit.
Hey boo lol
Quote from: 4everSLAYanafan on March 07, 2019, 09:38:38 AM
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 05:30:02 PM
Quote from: 4everSLAYanafan on March 06, 2019, 03:18:40 PM
Quote from: Genesis2 on March 06, 2019, 12:19:02 PM
How would dc work if half of the members are managed by someone else?
Thats stupid and letoya and latvia deserved to be kicked out. :ermm:
Not matthew's fault they were too busy fucking jagged edge than taking things seriously :dead: Petty and out of touch...Who they were fucking isn't relevant and wouldn't of changed a thing. It's also nobody's business like who cares... as long as Matt could groom and control them, Keep in mind he kicked their moms off tour buses to achieve this control, meanwhile him and Tina was chillin' on the bus going any and everywhere with these teen girls.
and it's simple, It just would have worked. It wasn't impossible or un heard of.
However, Matt refused to agree. Business can work in any kind of way. if they can have their own agents and side individual deals like Farrah or any other Celeb who's in a group, or group environment, having a personal manager, lawyer or whatever is the same difference.
Mathew needed to be the one to navigate and control DC's journey into bey's solo career which he eventually did during and shortly after Survivor
Matthew had one goal, and one girl in mind.He didn't want to share that with any other manager or anyone. It didn't even matter if all of the girls had equal talent or not. This is all on him....Bey don't even fuck with him, she barely talks about him anymore that should tell you enough, he was a controlling, verbally/mentally abusive stage father. sidenote: him cheating on Tina was the straw that finally broke her back.
They only wanted new management because of jagged edge.
Sure, Matthew is a piece of shit, but it had less to do with him and more so their own egos.
Beyonce was ready to take her career in her own hands. Nothing wrong with that. She outgrew him. And with him cheating, it was no love lost. the cheating fucked them all up like :uhh:
This was about their integrity lots of us here don't have that,
:ohwow:
Quote from: Jayda Jackson on March 06, 2019, 02:45:06 PM
Quote from: Kurama on March 06, 2019, 12:25:34 PM
Gotta love when fans refute the narratives of ppl who were actually there :unsure:
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Bre is such a condescending, know it all bitch :dead:
this historian quee really has the girls s rambling in here. nows the time to drop ur EP princess!
:sobusyjetsetter:
yeah
ready for sum new FARRAH!
right and I hope it's undeniably hot! just to piss people against her off