:mmyulost: i bet not see ciara, rihanna, SZA or H.E.R. on anybody's list... 10 lashes if i do... 🔑
Rihanna is certainly an ICON
u okay? 🥴
How TF you gonna ask us a question and then tell us what to put on our list? :everythingok:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BtlhFoElvV_/
And baybeeeeee...
i been meaning to give this to you
Im peach ; you can be Daisy 🔑
(https://www.mariowiki.com/images/a/a0/Daisy_2d_officially.png)
:stressed: i feel like there are tiers to this... so... people like...
ARETHA
STEVIE
PATTI
GLADYS
CHER
DIANA
GLADYS
CHAKA
ELTON JOHN
TINA
MADONNA
MICHAEL
PRINCE
...are without a doubt legends... then you have those artist that are the second coming of the artist above..
JANET
MARIAH
MARY J.
FAITH
R. KELLY
BEYONCE
ERYKAH BADU
JILL SCOTT
DIDDY
JAY-Z
DR. DRE
SNOOP DOGG
NAS
J.LO
BRANDY
USHER
BRITNEY
TAMIA
CHRISTINA
P!NK
.... :stressed: now these newer folks like...
RIHANNA
CHRIS BROWN
LADY GAGA
DRAKE
SZA
MIGUEL
i don't know chile... 🔑
Legend = Janet
Icon = Beyonce
Quote from: Tonkaman on May 06, 2019, 07:19:55 PM
How TF you gonna ask us a question and then tell us what to put on our list? :everythingok:
:mmyulost: because i'm the FIRST muthafucking LADY... did you not get the memo? 🔑
:mmyulost: i don't wanna see chris brown listed either... 🔑
Quote from: Xavier on May 06, 2019, 07:20:09 PM
Rihanna and Ciara are both icons btw.
v
:stressed: ciara is a what?
:plzstop: i feel trey songz has the ability to be what keith sweat was to the '80's and what r. kelly was to the '90's if he made better music... bruno has several classics under his belt...
Quote from: Young on May 06, 2019, 07:22:52 PM
And baybeeeeee...
i been meaning to give this to you
Im peach ; you can be Daisy 🔑
(https://www.mariowiki.com/images/a/a0/Daisy_2d_officially.png)
🔑
If beyonce isnt a legend. Janet and her local mess surely aint.
Quote from: Kalifornia on May 06, 2019, 07:25:12 PM
Legend = Janet
Icon = Beyonce
beyonce is an undeniable legend hun
v
Whoa luvs, calm down. He asked who I considered a legend or icon.
Y'all ok? :uhh:
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 07:36:34 PM
If beyonce isnt a legend. Janet and her local mess surely aint.
VSNBSNSND
Yea bey has def surpassed Janet career wise and is more influential tbh!
Quote from: Kalifornia on May 06, 2019, 07:45:14 PM
Whoa luvs, calm down. He asked who I considered a legend or icon.
Y'all ok? :uhh:
it's just that you are wrong as always
fbnnn
Y'all are really pissed at that huh?
Good
:nowgorl:
Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 07:45:30 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 07:36:34 PM
If beyonce isnt a legend. Janet and her local mess surely aint.
VSNBSNSND
Yea bey has def surpassed Janet career wise and is more influential tbh!
(https://media.giphy.com/media/gGs0DjTqB9D5C/giphy.gif)
This rage. Let it owt bbys
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a lot of people ^o)
Quote from: Young on May 06, 2019, 07:17:53 PM
Rihanna is certainly an ICON
u okay? 🥴
Like :dead:
Quote from: THE_FIRST_LADY on May 06, 2019, 07:28:09 PM
Quote from: Xavier on May 06, 2019, 07:20:09 PM
Rihanna and Ciara are both icons btw.
v
:stressed: ciara is a what?
sdddddd
If we're considering Jarule and Ashanti icons, why not Ci?
:udontlookok:
Quote from: Trey on May 06, 2019, 08:19:00 PM
Quote from: THE_FIRST_LADY on May 06, 2019, 07:28:09 PM
Quote from: Xavier on May 06, 2019, 07:20:09 PM
Rihanna and Ciara are both icons btw.
v
:stressed: ciara is a what?
sdddddd
If we're considering Jarule and Ashanti icons, why not Ci?
:udontlookok:
None of these people are anything. Ja is atleast arguable tho
Hmmm.
I'd say Ashanti is an R&B icon.
Quote from: Trey on May 06, 2019, 08:19:00 PM
Quote from: THE_FIRST_LADY on May 06, 2019, 07:28:09 PM
Quote from: Xavier on May 06, 2019, 07:20:09 PM
Rihanna and Ciara are both icons btw.
v
:stressed: ciara is a what?
sdddddd
If we're considering Jarule and Ashanti icons, why not Ci?
:udontlookok:
:stressed: in what way is ciara an icon? what has she ever done to be referred to as such?
Quote from: THE_FIRST_LADY on May 06, 2019, 08:28:23 PM
Quote from: Trey on May 06, 2019, 08:19:00 PM
Quote from: THE_FIRST_LADY on May 06, 2019, 07:28:09 PM
Quote from: Xavier on May 06, 2019, 07:20:09 PM
Rihanna and Ciara are both icons btw.
v
:stressed: ciara is a what?
sdddddd
If we're considering Jarule and Ashanti icons, why not Ci?
:udontlookok:
:stressed: in what way is ciara an icon? what has she ever done to be referred to as such?
Nothing and neither has Ashanti
Beyonce is not more influential than Janet :dead:
and im not trolling
Janet is legit the most influential black female artist of all time outside of Aretha
Quote from: THE_FIRST_LADY on May 06, 2019, 07:31:00 PM
:plzstop: i feel trey songz has the ability to be what keith sweat was to the '80's and what r. kelly was to the '90's if he made better music... bruno has several classics under his belt...
n
n
rihanna is definitely an icon and I barley use
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 08:36:10 PM
Beyonce is not more influential than Janet :dead:
and im not trolling
Janet is legit the most influential black female artist of all time outside of Aretha
:blink:
Not when Whitney is literally the BIGGEST of them all.
Love Queen retha but plea'. Whitney's impact is on a colossal scale
Hey bby
whitney doesn't have the influence of Aretha..
she just doesn't ..
and beyonce doesnt have the influence of Janet.
Impact is a different discussion
All hate aside
Beyonce
Janet
Rihanna
Whitney
Mariah
Anita
Toni is an icon LITE
Ashanti is literally nothing. How her name came up is beyond me. Ciara is useless and even she is more iconic than Ashanti
Like u see Janet in every girl
just like u hear Aretha in every singer
the Beyoncé's are emerging tho.. so this wasn't me trolling or being messy. I like Bey..
her girls are being MADE..
why even rush it? She's a young girl :uhh:
Celine is legendary as well but we'll leave this to our black girls
Quote from: CREAM. on May 06, 2019, 08:45:44 PM
Quote from: THE_FIRST_LADY on May 06, 2019, 07:31:00 PM
:plzstop: i feel trey songz has the ability to be what keith sweat was to the '80's and what r. kelly was to the '90's if he made better music... bruno has several classics under his belt...
n
v
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 08:36:10 PM
Beyonce is not more influential than Janet :dead:
and im not trolling
Janet is legit the most influential black female artist of all time outside of Aretha
janet more influential than Diana?
Tina?
Whitney?
Mariah?
nnshjsndjs
:kii:
Whitney is more legendary than Aretha imo. Like Whitney is who everyone aspires to be. Sorry i dont hear Aretha mentioned like I do Whitney. Also, Whitney sings better than Aretha
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 08:54:09 PM
Quote from: CREAM. on May 06, 2019, 08:45:44 PM
Quote from: THE_FIRST_LADY on May 06, 2019, 07:31:00 PM
:plzstop: i feel trey songz has the ability to be what keith sweat was to the '80's and what r. kelly was to the '90's if he made better music... bruno has several classics under his belt...
n
v
s
Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 08:54:50 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 08:36:10 PM
Beyonce is not more influential than Janet :dead:
and im not trolling
Janet is legit the most influential black female artist of all time outside of Aretha
janet more influential than Diana?
Tina?
Whitney?
Mariah?
nnshjsndjs
:kii:
yes she is and I'm a MiMi
Influence .. look up the definition :uhh:
Legit every girl has pulled from Janet in some fashion :dead:
I'm sure every Tom dick or Harry could be iconic if they made great music
v
Quote from: Vonc2002 on May 06, 2019, 08:54:54 PM
Whitney is more legendary than Aretha imo. Like Whitney is who everyone aspires to be. Sorry i dont hear Aretha mentioned like I do Whitney. Also, Whitney sings better than Aretha
this really isn't true
I love me some Whitney but she def isn't more legendary than Aretha
Aretha's influence and resonating sound flows through 6 different generations :plzstop:
Whitney barely even had a sound.
Before Whitney there was Aretha and after Whitney there was still Aretha
Aretha is dead ass always mentioned :kii:
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 08:56:01 PM
Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 08:54:50 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 08:36:10 PM
Beyonce is not more influential than Janet :dead:
and im not trolling
Janet is legit the most influential black female artist of all time outside of Aretha
janet more influential than Diana?
Tina?
Whitney?
Mariah?
nnshjsndjs
:kii:
yes she is and I'm a MiMi
Influence .. look up the definition :uhh:
Legit every girl has pulled from Janet in some fashion :dead:
I just don't understand why it kills the gorls to suck up their pride every once in a while..
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 08:56:01 PM
Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 08:54:50 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 08:36:10 PM
Beyonce is not more influential than Janet :dead:
and im not trolling
Janet is legit the most influential black female artist of all time outside of Aretha
janet more influential than Diana?
Tina?
Whitney?
Mariah?
nnshjsndjs
:kii:
yes she is and I'm a MiMi
Influence .. look up the definition :uhh:
Legit every girl has pulled from Janet in some fashion :dead:
mariah >
Mariah is literally the reason all these girls have a rapper on their mess
And playin around with Melisma
Tryna do whistles
Her influence is much bigger
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 08:58:08 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on May 06, 2019, 08:54:54 PM
Whitney is more legendary than Aretha imo. Like Whitney is who everyone aspires to be. Sorry i dont hear Aretha mentioned like I do Whitney. Also, Whitney sings better than Aretha
this really isn't true
I love me some Whitney but she def isn't more legendary than Aretha
Aretha's influence and resonating sound flows through 6 different generations :plzstop:
Whitney barely even had a sound.
Before Whitney there was Aretha and after Whitney there was still Aretha
Aretha is dead ass always mentioned :kii:
I just dont agree. Whitney is what legit every singer aspires to be. Whitney>>>>>>>Aretha
I love me some Mariah..
but she doesn't have really have any influence ..
the girls saw what she did and left it at that.. like "hmm that's mariahs thing.. gonna leave it alone"..
and thats no shade
she just isn't an influential girl
yet she is huge.
u can be huge with no influence
Usher comes to mind (in terms of urban.. he's no where near as big as MiMi but ya get my drift)
I'm crying
this faggot is definitely trolling
Glock is in here preaching I see!
Quote from: Vonc2002 on May 06, 2019, 08:59:33 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 08:58:08 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on May 06, 2019, 08:54:54 PM
Whitney is more legendary than Aretha imo. Like Whitney is who everyone aspires to be. Sorry i dont hear Aretha mentioned like I do Whitney. Also, Whitney sings better than Aretha
this really isn't true
I love me some Whitney but she def isn't more legendary than Aretha
Aretha's influence and resonating sound flows through 6 different generations :plzstop:
Whitney barely even had a sound.
Before Whitney there was Aretha and after Whitney there was still Aretha
Aretha is dead ass always mentioned :kii:
I just dont agree. Whitney is what legit every singer aspires to be. Whitney>>>>>>>Aretha
i don't agree with you.. yet i can respect your outlook on it because it's whitney..
every singer legit aspires to be Aretha as well ..
Even new girls
Mention her.. Ariana for starters.. Jessie j.. Kelly Clarkson.. tori Kelly has also
She sorta hasn't skipped a generation
That is influence.
I don't see these new girls really pulling from Whitney.. the 90s and early 2000s girls yeah..
But I still hear Aretha
That's influence
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:00:30 PM
I love me some Mariah..
but she doesn't have really have any influence ..
the girls saw what she did and left it at that.. like "hmm that's mariahs thing.. gonna leave it alone"..
and thats no shade
she just isn't an influential girl
yet she is huge.
u can be huge with no influence
Usher comes to mind (in terms of urban.. he's no where near as big as MiMi but ya get my drift)
I somewhat agree but there are girls who really love her......... for whatever reason. She's the least mentioned girl tho tbh
Whitney doesn't even have the music for the discussion
but dew
She's an amazing talent tho.. because that is the only reason why she would ever come up in a discussion about influence..
thats an impressive vocalist for you.. I'll give her that
cuz ch!
that music and artistry doesn't influence a got damn thing past the early 2000s
Literally all of those new girls mention Mariah and Whitney too
glock shut up
trolling self
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:02:45 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on May 06, 2019, 08:59:33 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 08:58:08 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on May 06, 2019, 08:54:54 PM
Whitney is more legendary than Aretha imo. Like Whitney is who everyone aspires to be. Sorry i dont hear Aretha mentioned like I do Whitney. Also, Whitney sings better than Aretha
this really isn't true
I love me some Whitney but she def isn't more legendary than Aretha
Aretha's influence and resonating sound flows through 6 different generations :plzstop:
Whitney barely even had a sound.
Before Whitney there was Aretha and after Whitney there was still Aretha
Aretha is dead ass always mentioned :kii:
I just dont agree. Whitney is what legit every singer aspires to be. Whitney>>>>>>>Aretha
i don't agree with you.. yet i can respect your outlook on it because it's whitney..
every singer legit aspires to be Aretha as well ..
Even new girls
Mention her.. Ariana for starters.. Jessie j.. Kelly Clarkson.. tori Kelly has also
She sorta hasn't skipped a generation
That is influence.
I don't see these new girls really pulling from Whitney.. the 90s and early 2000s girls yeah..
But I still hear Aretha
This is how i feel about Aretha. I don't feel like anyone trying to give Aretha...... unless they're like that niche type singer. Fantasia or someone else with that kinda sound. We'll agree to disagree because whitney>>>>>>the ugly one
Quote from: Vonc2002 on May 06, 2019, 09:03:18 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:00:30 PM
I love me some Mariah..
but she doesn't have really have any influence ..
the girls saw what she did and left it at that.. like "hmm that's mariahs thing.. gonna leave it alone"..
and thats no shade
she just isn't an influential girl
yet she is huge.
u can be huge with no influence
Usher comes to mind (in terms of urban.. he's no where near as big as MiMi but ya get my drift)
I somewhat agree but there are girls who really love her......... for whatever reason. She's the least mentioned girl tho tbh
they do love her and stan
But they don't pull from her imo and that's influence
Like when u see Norman performing.. you see Beyoncé's influence and Ciara's influence
I just don't see the girls really pulling from my fave :unsure:
And it has always baffled me..
I don't care what u say but Mariah is one of the best ever
Her music is fucking amazing
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:04:35 PM
Whitney doesn't even have the music for the
That's debatable first of all. Whitney is more for EVERYONE tbh. Aretha is low-key for the black girls. And that's just a testament to how influential she is. Her music "isn't great" but she's still EVERYONE'S favorite. Whitney>>>>>>>
Quote from: Vonc2002 on May 06, 2019, 08:54:54 PM
Whitney is more legendary than Aretha imo. Like Whitney is who everyone aspires to be. Sorry i dont hear Aretha mentioned like I do Whitney. Also, Whitney sings better than Aretha
:mmyulost: i agree... and i left her off my list some how... whitney is definitely a better singer than aretha was...
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:06:46 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on May 06, 2019, 09:03:18 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:00:30 PM
I love me some Mariah..
but she doesn't have really have any influence ..
the girls saw what she did and left it at that.. like "hmm that's mariahs thing.. gonna leave it alone"..
and thats no shade
she just isn't an influential girl
yet she is huge.
u can be huge with no influence
Usher comes to mind (in terms of urban.. he's no where near as big as MiMi but ya get my drift)
I somewhat agree but there are girls who really love her......... for whatever reason. She's the least mentioned girl tho tbh
they do love her and stan
But they don't pull from her imo and that's influence
oh Yea, I agree with this
Quote from: THE_FIRST_LADY on May 06, 2019, 09:08:09 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on May 06, 2019, 08:54:54 PM
Whitney is more legendary than Aretha imo. Like Whitney is who everyone aspires to be. Sorry i dont hear Aretha mentioned like I do Whitney. Also, Whitney sings better than Aretha
:mmyulost: i agree... and i left her off my list some how... whitney is definitely a better singer than aretha was...
I think if u ask most of America this would be the consensus
Quote from: Vonc2002 on May 06, 2019, 09:07:41 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:04:35 PM
Whitney doesn't even have the music for the
That's debatable first of all. Whitney is more for EVERYONE tbh. Aretha is low-key for the black girls. And that's just a testament to how influential she is. Her music "isn't great" but she's still EVERYONE'S favorite. Whitney>>>>>>>
Im not even a nip' but this is just the truth.
Whitney's death also had more of an impact than Aretha's as well.
and I must've missed it but Glock did you say HOW exactly Janet was bigger than Whitney? because IWALY engulfs Janets entire career along with the Bodyguard :unsure:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on May 06, 2019, 09:05:20 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:02:45 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on May 06, 2019, 08:59:33 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 08:58:08 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on May 06, 2019, 08:54:54 PM
Whitney is more legendary than Aretha imo. Like Whitney is who everyone aspires to be. Sorry i dont hear Aretha mentioned like I do Whitney. Also, Whitney sings better than Aretha
this really isn't true
I love me some Whitney but she def isn't more legendary than Aretha
Aretha's influence and resonating sound flows through 6 different generations :plzstop:
Whitney barely even had a sound.
Before Whitney there was Aretha and after Whitney there was still Aretha
Aretha is dead ass always mentioned :kii:
I just dont agree. Whitney is what legit every singer aspires to be. Whitney>>>>>>>Aretha
i don't agree with you.. yet i can respect your outlook on it because it's whitney..
every singer legit aspires to be Aretha as well ..
Even new girls
Mention her.. Ariana for starters.. Jessie j.. Kelly Clarkson.. tori Kelly has also
She sorta hasn't skipped a generation
That is influence.
I don't see these new girls really pulling from Whitney.. the 90s and early 2000s girls yeah..
But I still hear Aretha
This is how i feel about Aretha. I don't feel like anyone trying to give Aretha...... unless they're like that niche type singer. Fantasia or someone else with that kinda sound. We'll agree to disagree because whitney>>>>>>the ugly one
Hun
Have u really gotten a chance to really get into Aretha's discography?
Her sound legit resonates in popular music to this day
I think you're mistaken this discussion for voice influence
And even if u are you're not really giving her the flowers that she deserves
The whole big voice mess sorta begins with Aretha but she was more than that..
Her skill and discography >>> is much larger than her big yelling moments
Her sound is replicated in pop music still today
Her arrangements :uhh:
Jazmine Sullivan pulls from her
All these white girls that wanna sound black pull from her
She's so influential that some of them don't even know why they sing or make music the way they do
But yeah we can agree to disagree
Aretha > the crack head
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:08:53 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on May 06, 2019, 09:07:41 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:04:35 PM
Whitney doesn't even have the music for the
That's debatable first of all. Whitney is more for EVERYONE tbh. Aretha is low-key for the black girls. And that's just a testament to how influential she is. Her music "isn't great" but she's still EVERYONE'S favorite. Whitney>>>>>>>
Im not even a nip' but this is just the truth.
I'm sorry but it's just not debatable. These girls ain't fawning over Aretha. Fantasia, Jennifer Hudson n nem :dead:
yeah
Whitney
Mariah
Madonna
Beyoncé
Janet
Michael
Prince
are all legendary to me
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:10:40 PM
and I must've missed it but Glock did you say HOW exactly Janet was bigger than Whitney? because IWALY engulfs Janets entire career along with the Bodyguard :unsure:
damn y'all are legit not reading shit
I didn't say Janet was bigger than Whitney
I said Janet is more influential
I'm not reading all that glock. Yea I know Aretha's music. I have many cds. I don't agree with u on this one
Ok
lets take a gander at the word influence because for some reason y'all are legit thinking that's it means "bigger"
Influence -
the capacity to have an effect on the character, development, or behavior of someone or something, or the effect itself
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:11:43 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:10:40 PM
and I must've missed it but Glock did you say HOW exactly Janet was bigger than Whitney? because IWALY engulfs Janets entire career along with the Bodyguard :unsure:
damn y'all are legit not reading shit
I didn't say Janet was bigger than Whitney
I said Janet is more influential
It depends. Janet is more influential to performance based artists. Whitney is More influential for SINGERS
Quote from: MelMel on May 06, 2019, 09:11:12 PM
yeah
Whitney
Mariah
Madonna
Beyoncé
Janet
Michael
Prince
are all legendary to me
This elite ass list.
:stressed:
:plzstop: whitney made great music too... her catalog is just not as expansive as mariah's... whitney is biggie to mariah's 2pac... 🔑
Aretha is more influential than Whitney..
and if u can't read my post than we don't need to discuss this any further
if were gonna have a music discussion
stick in it and provide facts..
not opinions
Quote from: Vonc2002 on May 06, 2019, 09:13:01 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:11:43 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:10:40 PM
and I must've missed it but Glock did you say HOW exactly Janet was bigger than Whitney? because IWALY engulfs Janets entire career along with the Bodyguard :unsure:
damn y'all are legit not reading shit
I didn't say Janet was bigger than Whitney
I said Janet is more influential
It depends. Janet is more influential to performance based artists. Whitney is More influential for SINGERS
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:13:44 PM
Aretha is more influential than Whitney..
and if u can't read my post than we don't need to discuss this any further
if were gonna have a music discussion
stick in it and provide facts..
not opinions
:omgwatshappening:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on May 06, 2019, 09:13:01 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:11:43 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:10:40 PM
and I must've missed it but Glock did you say HOW exactly Janet was bigger than Whitney? because IWALY engulfs Janets entire career along with the Bodyguard :unsure:
damn y'all are legit not reading shit
I didn't say Janet was bigger than Whitney
I said Janet is more influential
It depends. Janet is more influential to performance based artists. Whitney is More influential for SINGERS
exactly..
Yet
Janet's influence spans from aesthetics, musically, performance, visuals and all around brand
Whitney is a very limited girl.. no shade
Whitney can
So yea Whitney is definitely more influential to singers than any other girl
I don't even care for Janet like this
im just saying what's real
beyonce will def be the most influential girl of her time
Quote from: BowDown on May 06, 2019, 09:13:22 PM
Quote from: MelMel on May 06, 2019, 09:11:12 PM
yeah
Whitney
Mariah
Madonna
Beyoncé
Janet
Michael
Prince
are all legendary to me
This elite ass list.
:stressed:
sis
:sistas:
all of them are just....IT
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:15:22 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on May 06, 2019, 09:13:01 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:11:43 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:10:40 PM
and I must've missed it but Glock did you say HOW exactly Janet was bigger than Whitney? because IWALY engulfs Janets entire career along with the Bodyguard :unsure:
damn y'all are legit not reading shit
I didn't say Janet was bigger than Whitney
I said Janet is more influential
It depends. Janet is more influential to performance based artists. Whitney is More influential for SINGERS
exactly..
Yet
Janet's influence spans from aesthetics, musically, performance, visuals and all around brand
Whitney is a very limited girl.. no shade
Whitney can
what can she do
Quote from: MelMel on May 06, 2019, 09:16:09 PM
Quote from: BowDown on May 06, 2019, 09:13:22 PM
Quote from: MelMel on May 06, 2019, 09:11:12 PM
yeah
Whitney
Mariah
Madonna
Beyoncé
Janet
Michael
Prince
are all legendary to me
This elite ass list.
:stressed:
sis
:sistas:
all of them are just....IT
Bitch, ALL of them. I don't even use some of them but ack!
:gorlonfire:
Aretha has influenced more singers, musicians and sounds than Whitney
and it cant be argued.
if it could.. Vonc or anyone else would be refuting it with facts and not opinion
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:11:43 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:10:40 PM
and I must've missed it but Glock did you say HOW exactly Janet was bigger than Whitney? because IWALY engulfs Janets entire career along with the Bodyguard :unsure:
damn y'all are legit not reading shit
I didn't say Janet was bigger than Whitney
I said Janet is more influential
ok...."I Will Always Love You" has influenced more people than anything Janet has done.
Janet has what? Rhythm Nation.. ? and compared to the number of artists that have covered that song alone compared to what has used or covered or pulled influenced from Janet's song/video.....
Quote from: MelMel on May 06, 2019, 09:16:37 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:15:22 PM
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Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:10:40 PM
and I must've missed it but Glock did you say HOW exactly Janet was bigger than Whitney? because IWALY engulfs Janets entire career along with the Bodyguard :unsure:
damn y'all are legit not reading shit
I didn't say Janet was bigger than Whitney
I said Janet is more influential
It depends. Janet is more influential to performance based artists. Whitney is More influential for SINGERS
exactly..
Yet
Janet's influence spans from aesthetics, musically, performance, visuals and all around brand
Whitney is a very limited girl.. no shade
Whitney can
what can she do
sing
That's it
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:12:39 PM
Ok
lets take a gander at the word influence because for some reason y'all are legit thinking that's it means "bigger"
Influence -
the capacity to have an effect on the character, development, or behavior of someone or something, or the effect itself
ok based on this definition, how does Mariah have 0 influence?
like I really wanna know ur reasoning behind this because I've never heard someone say this and be deadass
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:17:15 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:11:43 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:10:40 PM
and I must've missed it but Glock did you say HOW exactly Janet was bigger than Whitney? because IWALY engulfs Janets entire career along with the Bodyguard :unsure:
damn y'all are legit not reading shit
I didn't say Janet was bigger than Whitney
I said Janet is more influential
ok...."I Will Always Love You" has influenced more people than anything Janet has done.
Janet has what? Rhythm Nation.. ? and compared to the number of artists that have covered that song alone compared to what has used or covered or pulled influenced from Janet's song/video.....
Janet's not limited to any one song or era..
Quote from: THE_FIRST_LADY on May 06, 2019, 07:31:00 PM
:plzstop: i feel trey songz has the ability to be what keith sweat was to the '80's and what r. kelly was to the '90's if he made better music... bruno has several classics under his belt...
Girl bye first fucking lady my ass. You about to get demoted. Talking bout some damn Trey Songz is an icon but Ci ain't
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:17:46 PM
Quote from: MelMel on May 06, 2019, 09:16:37 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:15:22 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on May 06, 2019, 09:13:01 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:11:43 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:10:40 PM
and I must've missed it but Glock did you say HOW exactly Janet was bigger than Whitney? because IWALY engulfs Janets entire career along with the Bodyguard :unsure:
damn y'all are legit not reading shit
I didn't say Janet was bigger than Whitney
I said Janet is more influential
It depends. Janet is more influential to performance based artists. Whitney is More influential for SINGERS
exactly..
Yet
Janet's influence spans from aesthetics, musically, performance, visuals and all around brand
Whitney is a very limited girl.. no shade
Whitney can
what can she do
sing
That's it
and Janet can only "dance" because Whitney is def' a better actress as well.
See: Waiting to Exhale.
ANNNNNND "Waiting to Exhale" is a more influential movie/role than anything Janet has contributed.
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:17:15 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:11:43 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:10:40 PM
and I must've missed it but Glock did you say HOW exactly Janet was bigger than Whitney? because IWALY engulfs Janets entire career along with the Bodyguard :unsure:
damn y'all are legit not reading shit
I didn't say Janet was bigger than Whitney
I said Janet is more influential
ok...."I Will Always Love You" has influenced more people than anything Janet has done.
Janet has what? Rhythm Nation.. ? and compared to the number of artists that have covered that song alone compared to what has used or covered or pulled influenced from Janet's song/video.....
there is no way u believe that
Rhythm nation, all for you, let's wait a while literally opened the flood gates for female cooing..
her aesthetics and performance style
Ack
Janet's cooing has influence as much folks as Whitney's "blowing"
And that can't be argued
Whitney is literally the biggest black female artist of all time.
and this plays directly to her influence to not just blacks but honkies, chinks, and messicans
Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 09:18:08 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:12:39 PM
Ok
lets take a gander at the word influence because for some reason y'all are legit thinking that's it means "bigger"
Influence -
the capacity to have an effect on the character, development, or behavior of someone or something, or the effect itself
ok based on this definition, how does Mariah have 0 influence?
like I really wanna know ur reasoning behind this because I've never heard someone say this and be deadass
It really isn't my definition
That is what influence is..
Mariah is one of the biggest artist in the world
But me.. having studied and being a huge fan of both pop and r&b .. especially anything after her..
I don't hear her past her own music
I'm sorry
I just don't
She's legit the best writer out of all the girls.. yet I don't really see her writing style replicated or pulled from
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:20:17 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:17:15 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:11:43 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:10:40 PM
and I must've missed it but Glock did you say HOW exactly Janet was bigger than Whitney? because IWALY engulfs Janets entire career along with the Bodyguard :unsure:
damn y'all are legit not reading shit
I didn't say Janet was bigger than Whitney
I said Janet is more influential
ok...."I Will Always Love You" has influenced more people than anything Janet has done.
Janet has what? Rhythm Nation.. ? and compared to the number of artists that have covered that song alone compared to what has used or covered or pulled influenced from Janet's song/video.....
there is no way u believe that
Rhythm nation, all for you, let's wait a while literally opened the flood gates for female cooing..
her aesthetics and performance style
Ack
Janet's cooing has influence as much folks as Whitney's "blowing"
And that can't be argued
BOY. you might as well have just added "So Excited". "Saving all my Love" opened DOORS for Janet
Like.... Whitney KICKED down the door for everyone.
Mariah, Celine, Gloria, Bey, Rih, Adele. All different kind of performs and singers/.
this is no shade but when a girl takes too much influence from janet.... Ciara is prime example of why you shouldnt.
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Quote from: THE_FIRST_LADY on May 06, 2019, 07:31:00 PM
:plzstop: i feel trey songz has the ability to be what keith sweat was to the '80's and what r. kelly was to the '90's if he made better music... bruno has several classics under his belt...
Girl bye first fucking lady my ass. You about to get demoted. Talking bout some damn Trey Songz is an icon but Ci ain't
🔑😏
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:20:39 PM
Whitney is literally the biggest black female artist of all time.
and this plays directly to her influence to not just blacks but honkies, chinks, and messicans
She def is
But influence .. please
She literally only influence big ballads from the 90s girls
No influence on male music..
No influence to musicians or production
No actual sound
The best thing she did was outsing any bitch in ballad form..
And that became her moniker/"sound"
And meh
It's sorta lazy to even give her that but she vocally KO'd the girls
So we can give her that
But n
She barely has influence
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:20:39 PM
Whitney is literally the biggest black female artist of all time.
and this plays directly to her influence to not just blacks but honkies, chinks, and messicans
PERIOD!
Like Tina turner isnt remotely as big as these girls mentioned
but her performance style influenced both the pop and urban world for generations to come.. both male and female
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:24:00 PM
Like.... Whitney KICKED down the door for everyone.
Mariah, Celine, Gloria, Bey, Rih, Adele. All different kind of performs and singers/.
aretha kicked down the doors for her and lol
Of them :plzstop:
The way y'all skip over this girl is a kii
Whatever tho.
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:24:00 PM
Like.... Whitney KICKED down the door for everyone.
Mariah, Celine, Gloria, Bey, Rih, Adele. All different kind of performs and singers/.
:uhh:
Glock coming undone. Whitney >>>>>>Aretha
das it and das all
Janet's vocal style has influenced as much people as Whitney has vocally
period
yall legit get warped in technique and fanfare
we can list dozens of girls who are vocally influenced by Janet to the point they don't even know they pulled from someone who pulled from her
Aretha is dead ass the most influential female vocalist of all time and anyone that denies that's is hating and solely riding off their preference
vonc that includes u
:mmyulost: you slutz and whorez better not sleep on aretha... she was the mary j. blige of her day... she was a big part of the civil rights movement musically in the '60's...
Quote from: THE_FIRST_LADY on May 06, 2019, 09:31:20 PM
:mmyulost: you slutz and whorez better not sleep on aretha... she was the mary j. blige of her day...
i agree
When you have influenced 6 generations of bitches
There kinda isn't anyone more influential
especially when u influence girls that came before you or during ur time
both Etta and sarah Vaughn have mentioned Aretha's influence
patti as well
and more than anything WHITNEY herself
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/247df426f6829562eae5788b118c3f0c/tenor.gif?itemid=12539202)
aretha reigns supreme
her vocal influence and musical influence >
No girl that can be mistaken for this thing
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/puppet/images/3/36/Mr._Snuffleupagus.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110930102642)
Is touching Whitney in any way and I won't even try to entertain the thought. BYE!
Glock im going to fucking KILL you
Lemme know when ur faves get a 6 hour funeral
and half a million visitors at her memorials and funeral
Always will be that GIRL
No r&b girl owt that hasn't been influenced by her
PIER-RIH-YED
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/247df426f6829562eae5788b118c3f0c/tenor.gif?itemid=12539202)
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:35:02 PM
Glock im going to fucking KILL you
BXHXBXBXBXBXNDNNDNDNDNDNDNDSJJDDJJDDJDJDJDJMDJDSJJSKSKSMDMSMSMSSM
:hehe:
Quote from: THE_FIRST_LADY on May 06, 2019, 07:24:18 PM
:stressed: i feel like there are tiers to this... so... people like...
ARETHA
STEVIE
PATTI
GLADYS
CHER
DIANA
GLADYS
CHAKA
ELTON JOHN
TINA
MADONNA
MICHAEL
PRINCE
...are without a doubt legends... then you have those artist that are the second coming of the artist above..
JANET
MARIAH
MARY J.
FAITH
R. KELLY
BEYONCE
ERYKAH BADU
JILL SCOTT
DIDDY
JAY-Z
DR. DRE
SNOOP DOGG
NAS
J.LO
BRANDY
USHER
BRITNEY
TAMIA
CHRISTINA
P!NK
.... :stressed: now these newer folks like...
RIHANNA
CHRIS BROWN
LADY GAGA
DRAKE
SZA
MIGUEL
i don't know chile... 🔑
ccxcx
not tamia and faith evans
:dead:
what's the difference between the two? I'm slow.
:mmyulost: aretha also did pretty much every genre of music... she wasn't stuck in a box like... oh, let's say monica... monica really needs to evolve or she will never reach legend status... 🔑
Glock..... in their prime who do you think would SEAT who in a vocal battle on stage..
Whitney or Aretha :ohwow:
Quote from: Justaway_ on May 06, 2019, 09:37:10 PM
Quote from: THE_FIRST_LADY on May 06, 2019, 07:24:18 PM
:stressed: i feel like there are tiers to this... so... people like...
ARETHA
STEVIE
PATTI
GLADYS
CHER
DIANA
GLADYS
CHAKA
ELTON JOHN
TINA
MADONNA
MICHAEL
PRINCE
...are without a doubt legends... then you have those artist that are the second coming of the artist above..
JANET
MARIAH
MARY J.
FAITH
R. KELLY
BEYONCE
ERYKAH BADU
JILL SCOTT
DIDDY
JAY-Z
DR. DRE
SNOOP DOGG
NAS
J.LO
BRANDY
USHER
BRITNEY
TAMIA
CHRISTINA
P!NK
.... :stressed: now these newer folks like...
RIHANNA
CHRIS BROWN
LADY GAGA
DRAKE
SZA
MIGUEL
i don't know chile... 🔑
ccxcx
not tamia and faith evans
:dead:
tamia may have been reaching a bit... but faith evans without a doubt is a legend... she is chaka to mary's aretha...
Quote from: THE_FIRST_LADY on May 06, 2019, 09:40:27 PM
Quote from: Justaway_ on May 06, 2019, 09:37:10 PM
Quote from: THE_FIRST_LADY on May 06, 2019, 07:24:18 PM
:stressed: i feel like there are tiers to this... so... people like...
ARETHA
STEVIE
PATTI
GLADYS
CHER
DIANA
GLADYS
CHAKA
ELTON JOHN
TINA
MADONNA
MICHAEL
PRINCE
...are without a doubt legends... then you have those artist that are the second coming of the artist above..
JANET
MARIAH
MARY J.
FAITH
R. KELLY
BEYONCE
ERYKAH BADU
JILL SCOTT
DIDDY
JAY-Z
DR. DRE
SNOOP DOGG
NAS
J.LO
BRANDY
USHER
BRITNEY
TAMIA
CHRISTINA
P!NK
.... :stressed: now these newer folks like...
RIHANNA
CHRIS BROWN
LADY GAGA
DRAKE
SZA
MIGUEL
i don't know chile... 🔑
ccxcx
not tamia and faith evans
:dead:
tamia may have been reaching a bit... but faith evans without a doubt is a legend... she is chaka to mary's aretha...
Faith who?
:diddraispoot:
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:40:07 PM
Glock..... in their prime who do you think would SEAT who in a vocal battle on stage..
Whitney or Aretha :ohwow:
Whitney>>>>>
:stressed: i think fantasia is also moving along nicely in becoming her generation's patti labelle... the christmas album was a good look...🔑
Aretha was a stylized singer. Whitney has the better natural VOICE
Quote from: BowDown on May 06, 2019, 09:41:53 PM
Quote from: THE_FIRST_LADY on May 06, 2019, 09:40:27 PM
Quote from: Justaway_ on May 06, 2019, 09:37:10 PM
Quote from: THE_FIRST_LADY on May 06, 2019, 07:24:18 PM
:stressed: i feel like there are tiers to this... so... people like...
ARETHA
STEVIE
PATTI
GLADYS
CHER
DIANA
GLADYS
CHAKA
ELTON JOHN
TINA
MADONNA
MICHAEL
PRINCE
...are without a doubt legends... then you have those artist that are the second coming of the artist above..
JANET
MARIAH
MARY J.
FAITH
R. KELLY
BEYONCE
ERYKAH BADU
JILL SCOTT
DIDDY
JAY-Z
DR. DRE
SNOOP DOGG
NAS
J.LO
BRANDY
USHER
BRITNEY
TAMIA
CHRISTINA
P!NK
.... :stressed: now these newer folks like...
RIHANNA
CHRIS BROWN
LADY GAGA
DRAKE
SZA
MIGUEL
i don't know chile... 🔑
ccxcx
not tamia and faith evans
:dead:
tamia may have been reaching a bit... but faith evans without a doubt is a legend... she is chaka to mary's aretha...
Faith who?
:diddraispoot:
:plzstop: please don't make me lash you tonight... i'm tired... 🔑
Quote from: Vonc2002 on May 06, 2019, 09:43:30 PM
Aretha was a stylized singer. Whitney has the better natural VOICE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qym_LiCvCJg
:loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when:
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:47:24 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on May 06, 2019, 09:43:30 PM
Aretha was a stylized singer. Whitney has the better natural VOICE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qym_LiCvCJg
:loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when:
JESUS! :gorlonfire:
And this bitch was absolutely gorgeous
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:40:07 PM
Glock..... in their prime who do you think would SEAT who in a vocal battle on stage..
Whitney or Aretha :ohwow:
:ohwow:
Oof.
:'(
Whitney
Amerie will definitely go down as a legend.
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:22:42 PM
Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 09:18:08 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:12:39 PM
Ok
lets take a gander at the word influence because for some reason y'all are legit thinking that's it means "bigger"
Influence -
the capacity to have an effect on the character, development, or behavior of someone or something, or the effect itself
ok based on this definition, how does Mariah have 0 influence?
like I really wanna know ur reasoning behind this because I've never heard someone say this and be deadass
It really isn't my definition
That is what influence is..
Mariah is one of the biggest artist in the world
But me.. having studied and being a huge fan of both pop and r&b .. especially anything after her..
I don't hear her past her own music
I'm sorry
I just don't
She's legit the best writer out of all the girls.. yet I don't really see her writing style replicated or pulled from
oh ok so this is just rooted in ur own delusion I got u
Thanks 4 the expl'
My knowledge >> Kae
And that can't be argued
go 2 step to Ciara's iconic song Lil girl
u don't know shit about music.. voices.. music history, influence or music science.
Scoot
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:27:36 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:24:00 PM
Like.... Whitney KICKED down the door for everyone.
Mariah, Celine, Gloria, Bey, Rih, Adele. All different kind of performs and singers/.
aretha kicked down the doors for her and lol
Of them :plzstop:
The way y'all skip over this girl is a kii
Whatever tho.
diana and the supremes did it first
V
Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 09:54:31 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:27:36 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:24:00 PM
Like.... Whitney KICKED down the door for everyone.
Mariah, Celine, Gloria, Bey, Rih, Adele. All different kind of performs and singers/.
aretha kicked down the doors for her and lol
Of them :plzstop:
The way y'all skip over this girl is a kii
Whatever tho.
diana and the supremes did it first
V
:plzstop:
Like why do u come into these discussions
When u don't know what the fuck u are talking about
Aretha was there long before them :kii:
Again.
My knowledge >> yours
6 fucking generations
she walked through all of the backdoors for every girl mentioned in here
chdndjdjkdjddj
this girl said the fucking supremes :plzstop:
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:53:57 PM
My knowledge >> Kae
And that can't be argued
go 2 step to Ciara's iconic song Lil girl
u don't know shit about music.. voices.. music history, influence or music science.
Scoot
hun
Just because you're OLD doesn't mean u know everything babe. In fact, u kinda don't know a damn thing, especially considering you don't know how to be unbiased in a discussion about influence. Your posts in here kinda exemplify someone NOT knowing what tf they're talking about
Not sure why anyone that thinks Janet > Whitney in terms of influence should be on any type of high horse but Do!
Love ya but, n
(https://uploadir.com/u/09cksppo)
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:55:59 PM
Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 09:54:31 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:27:36 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:24:00 PM
Like.... Whitney KICKED down the door for everyone.
Mariah, Celine, Gloria, Bey, Rih, Adele. All different kind of performs and singers/.
aretha kicked down the doors for her and lol
Of them :plzstop:
The way y'all skip over this girl is a kii
Whatever tho.
diana and the supremes did it first
V
:plzstop:
Like why do u come into these discussions
When u don't know what the fuck u are talking about
Aretha was there long before them :kii:
Again.
My knowledge >> yours
v
you just said that Aretha kicked down the doors for everybody. how?
Diana and the girls came through in 1964 and became the first act PERIOD to have 3 number one hits from an album
Aretha didn't pop off until 3 years later
Can it
Talkin bout some damn music history
Glock Aretha did flop when she first came out
Whitney didn't btw
Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 09:57:23 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:53:57 PM
My knowledge >> Kae
And that can't be argued
go 2 step to Ciara's iconic song Lil girl
u don't know shit about music.. voices.. music history, influence or music science.
Scoot
hun
Just because you're OLD doesn't mean u know everything babe. In fact, u kinda don't know a damn thing, especially considering you don't know how to be unbiased in a discussion about influence. Your posts in here kinda exemplify someone NOT knowing what tf they're talking about
Not sure why anyone that thinks Janet > Whitney in terms of influence should be on any type of high horse but Do!
Love ya but, n
hun
I'm 100% more of a Whitney fan than Janet..
Nothing I said in here in biased
If you actually sat back and pondered on the things I have posted in here .. reflected or even did a lick of homework than you would consider exploring ideas outside of your own
You don't know what you are talking about and I have refuted every single thing that anyone of you have said in here.. and i can back them with facts. You sit on this very board discrediting Janet so how fucking dare u allow the word "unbiased" escape your keyboard
I'm schooling you.. so be thankful someone like myself is actually taking out the time to entertain such a feeble ass outlook
Love ya a bit more
Yea blah blah blah
address the Aretha LIE you just fucking told
Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 09:59:42 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:55:59 PM
Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 09:54:31 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:27:36 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:24:00 PM
Like.... Whitney KICKED down the door for everyone.
Mariah, Celine, Gloria, Bey, Rih, Adele. All different kind of performs and singers/.
aretha kicked down the doors for her and lol
Of them :plzstop:
The way y'all skip over this girl is a kii
Whatever tho.
diana and the supremes did it first
V
:plzstop:
Like why do u come into these discussions
When u don't know what the fuck u are talking about
Aretha was there long before them :kii:
Again.
My knowledge >> yours
v
you just said that Aretha kicked down the doors for everybody. how?
Diana and the girls came through in 1964 and became the first act PERIOD to have 3 number one hits from an album
Aretha didn't pop off until 3 years later
Can it
Talkin bout some damn music history
Are u really this fucking slow or is this a part of your age shtick
Aretha not only toured churches and clubs throughout the 50s but had built a solid name for herself
Her first single to chart was in 1960
Which was a year before the supremes and charted higher than theirs
Which still matters none in this discussion
This girl was an act before the supremes
Performing around the United states..booked with several recording deals
U don't know what ur talking about
And I find it fucking hilarious
U can't school me on eras that I legit studied and have directly been influenced by myself :uhh:
Yes music history.. go study some
Aretha flopped ?
Yet her fourth mainstream single was a TOP 40
which was a Broadway chune
okk !,!:!:&:&:'
:plzstop:
flop!
If we're judging humble beginnings
whitney flopped when she came out too then chdjsjsjdjsjsjsjjen :plzstop:
Aretha definitely flopped when she first came out :dead:
They had her singing jazz standards and shit trying to be Sarah Vaughn.
Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 08:54:50 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 08:36:10 PM
Beyonce is not more influential than Janet :dead:
and im not trolling
Janet is legit the most influential black female artist of all time outside of Aretha
janet more influential than Diana?
Tina?
Whitney?
Mariah?
nnshjsndjs
:kii:
Yes
And n @ Mariah
Are you trolling?
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:12:42 PM
Aretha flopped ?
Yet her fourth mainstream single was a TOP 40
which was a Broadway chune
okk !,!:!:&:&:'
:plzstop:
flop!
:ummwhat: Glock bruv and fellow 'retha... she flopped for most of her career
Aretha didnt really sell at all for real. But when one of her songs STUCK it STUCK because of of her delivery. Thats why she's legendary
So yea anyway, Diana's commercial breakthrough was before Aretha's. Facts and dates back this up.
but yay for touring nigger churches in 1942!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BxGUDZ1nDf4/
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:15:35 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:12:42 PM
Aretha flopped ?
Yet her fourth mainstream single was a TOP 40
which was a Broadway chune
okk !,!:!:&:&:'
:plzstop:
flop!
:ummwhat: Glock bruv and fellow 'retha... she flopped for most of her career
Aretha didnt really sell at all for real. But when one of her songs STUCK it STUCK because of of her delivery. Thats why she's legendary
flopped to what standards Bruv?
She has more #1 r&b songs than any other artist in history
Quote from: Kalifornia on May 06, 2019, 10:15:24 PM
Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 08:54:50 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 08:36:10 PM
Beyonce is not more influential than Janet :dead:
and im not trolling
Janet is legit the most influential black female artist of all time outside of Aretha
janet more influential than Diana?
Tina?
Whitney?
Mariah?
nnshjsndjs
:kii:
Yes
And n @ Mariah
Are you trolling?
you might want to sit this one out babe. Because mariah is a GLOBAL girl and Janet aint.
wanna compare stats? lols
Ima let y'all have it tho
cuz I'm dead ass feeding into trolling
I'll discuss music shit with more mature, unbiased and sound girls
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 09:15:22 PM
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Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 09:10:40 PM
and I must've missed it but Glock did you say HOW exactly Janet was bigger than Whitney? because IWALY engulfs Janets entire career along with the Bodyguard :unsure:
damn y'all are legit not reading shit
I didn't say Janet was bigger than Whitney
I said Janet is more influential
It depends. Janet is more influential to performance based artists. Whitney is More influential for SINGERS
exactly..
Yet
Janet's influence spans from aesthetics, musically, performance, visuals and all around brand
Whitney is a very limited girl.. no shade
Whitney can
This
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:14:43 PM
If we're judging humble beginnings
whitney flopped when she came out too then chdjsjsjdjsjsjsjjen :plzstop:
yea for less than a year not 7 like Aretha
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:16:34 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:15:35 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:12:42 PM
Aretha flopped ?
Yet her fourth mainstream single was a TOP 40
which was a Broadway chune
okk !,!:!:&:&:'
:plzstop:
flop!
:ummwhat: Glock bruv and fellow 'retha... she flopped for most of her career
Aretha didnt really sell at all for real. But when one of her songs STUCK it STUCK because of of her delivery. Thats why she's legendary
flopped to what standards Bruv?
She has more #1 songs than any other artist in history
She had 34 (?) albums from debut to 1998 and only 7 even went gold and only one platinum
Quote from: Freeruu on May 06, 2019, 10:16:23 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BxGUDZ1nDf4/
:stressed:
This influential R&B Icon
:omgwatshappening:
Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 10:16:05 PM
So yea anyway, Diana's commercial breakthrough was before Aretha's. Facts and dates back this up.
but yay for touring nigger churches in 1942!
commerical breakthrough!This is why I can't truly fuck with u on these type of discussions
The statement was "Whitney knocked down doors for all these girls"
U dead ass have to deflect to make a point and it's quite .. well.. embarrassing :plzstop:
Those nigger churches, clubs and chitling circuits made it possible for Diana and any other mainstream girl that followed re
Point stands.. Aretha kicked down the doors for every bitch mentioned in here
But mess on sister.. mess on
ddfdf at Janet being local
Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 10:19:31 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:14:43 PM
If we're judging humble beginnings
whitney flopped when she came out too then chdjsjsjdjsjsjsjjen :plzstop:
yea for less than a year not 7 like Aretha
less than a year
:plzstop:
I'm weak
You girls :kii:
Adjust and mold it to your liking
A fucking flop is a fucking flop
The 1950 vs 1980s
Let's see who had the bigger advantage.. and ate off the sweat and tears of the black bitches before them :damselindistress:
I'd hope it wouldn't take her more than a damn year
A year is the fucking standard for the 80s and any decade that follows
U dead ass don't know what tf u be rambling about :kii:
She sold out tours around the world, something Mariah & Whitney couldn't do tbh
Quote from: Kill Bill on May 06, 2019, 10:24:04 PM
ddfdf at Janet being local
Is she bigger than Mariah globally?
does Janet have a bigger song than ONe Sweet Day ?
questions that need answers
Glock shut tf up
that argument is stupid. Why are we talking about churches? Plenty of black females did that BEFORE Aretha as well. Like ndjdmxjjx
im guessing Mahalia Jackson doesn't exist all of a sudden
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:25:26 PM
Quote from: Kill Bill on May 06, 2019, 10:24:04 PM
ddfdf at Janet being local
Is she bigger than Mariah globally?
does Janet have a bigger song than ONe Sweet Day ?
questions that need answers
Does Mariah have bigger touring success than Janet?
I never said Janet was or is bigger than Mariah, I said she wasn't local, and her touring success outside the states attest to that
eep wrong thread
OT: diana ack
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:20:15 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:16:34 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:15:35 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:12:42 PM
Aretha flopped ?
Yet her fourth mainstream single was a TOP 40
which was a Broadway chune
okk !,!:!:&:&:'
:plzstop:
flop!
:ummwhat: Glock bruv and fellow 'retha... she flopped for most of her career
Aretha didnt really sell at all for real. But when one of her songs STUCK it STUCK because of of her delivery. Thats why she's legendary
flopped to what standards Bruv?
She has more #1 songs than any other artist in history
She had 34 (?) albums from debut to 1998 and only 7 even went gold and only one platinum
what point are u making here?
:plzstop:
Compared to her contemporaries she booked
Album sales didn't even become a huge thing for females until the 80s girls like Whitney nem emerged :plzstop:
And an album during that time could've been 3 songs and a b side.. or even 2 songs for that matter stop trolling :kii:
I know me saying bey wasn't as influential as Janet bothered u but ZAMN
Quote from: Freeruu on May 06, 2019, 10:27:19 PM
https://twitter.com/RapUp/status/1125564399807152128
queen
MXNXNXDNXNNFNDDDDDDDD
Quote from: Freeruu on May 06, 2019, 10:27:19 PM
eep wrong thread
OT: diana ack
Cardi is the new rih. I'm hearing so much about this
Beyonce has the bigger impact, but Janet had the bigger infulence. I don't see why that made yall go into a tailspin :dead:
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:27:20 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:20:15 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:16:34 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:15:35 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:12:42 PM
Aretha flopped ?
Yet her fourth mainstream single was a TOP 40
which was a Broadway chune
okk !,!:!:&:&:'
:plzstop:
flop!
:ummwhat: Glock bruv and fellow 'retha... she flopped for most of her career
Aretha didnt really sell at all for real. But when one of her songs STUCK it STUCK because of of her delivery. Thats why she's legendary
flopped to what standards Bruv?
She has more #1 songs than any other artist in history
She had 34 (?) albums from debut to 1998 and only 7 even went gold and only one platinum
what point are u making here?
:plzstop:
Compared to her contemporaries she booked
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Ross_discography
:-/
Kae really is stupid
hfjdjdjdjdjd
why are we talking about dis!
uhh :uhh:
could it be that u quoted me with some bullshit
stop tryna minimize the black come up..
we were discussing kicking doors down and that is where she began doing so .. until Sam took her on tour with him to play both churches and clubs
u don't know shit like I said
Quote from: Kill Bill on May 06, 2019, 10:29:00 PM
Beyonce has the bigger impact, but Janet had the bigger infulence. I don't see why that made yall go into a tailspin :dead:
i don't think anyone here genuinely cared about the Bey vs Jan comment
Quote from: Kill Bill on May 06, 2019, 10:29:00 PM
Beyonce has the bigger impact, but Janet had the bigger infulence. I don't see why that made yall go into a tailspin :dead:
!!!!!!
Like :plzstop:
That's all I fucking said :uhh:
And it's true
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:29:41 PM
Kae really is stupid
hfjdjdjdjdjd
why are we talking about dis!
uhh :uhh:
could it be that u quoted me with some bullshit
stop tryna minimize the black come up..
we were discussing kicking doors down and that is where she began doing so .. until Sam took her on tour with him to play both churches and clubs
u don't know shit like I said
Which is why I don't understand how anyone can ever make logic of what the bitch says.
Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 10:30:20 PM
Quote from: Kill Bill on May 06, 2019, 10:29:00 PM
Beyonce has the bigger impact, but Janet had the bigger infulence. I don't see why that made yall go into a tailspin :dead:
i don't think anyone here genuinely cared about the Bey vs Jan comment
Deflecting ass bitch.
Quote from: Trey on May 06, 2019, 09:52:05 PM
Amerie will definitely go down as a legend.
m
Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 10:30:20 PM
Quote from: Kill Bill on May 06, 2019, 10:29:00 PM
Beyonce has the bigger impact, but Janet had the bigger infulence. I don't see why that made yall go into a tailspin :dead:
i don't think anyone here genuinely cared about the Bey vs Jan comment
pay attention
This whole Aretha thing took tons of turns because of that comment
Baph is in here acting a fool because of it
Ur just fucking stupid
Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 10:30:20 PM
Quote from: Kill Bill on May 06, 2019, 10:29:00 PM
Beyonce has the bigger impact, but Janet had the bigger infulence. I don't see why that made yall go into a tailspin :dead:
i don't think
I never asked what you think. hun'.
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:25:26 PM
Quote from: Kill Bill on May 06, 2019, 10:24:04 PM
ddfdf at Janet being local
Is she bigger than Mariah globally?
does Janet have a bigger song than ONe Sweet Day ?
questions that need answers
Like when I asked about Mariah's tour stats.
You gonna answer that?
Quote from: Kill Bill on May 06, 2019, 10:29:00 PM
Beyonce has the bigger impact, but Janet had the bigger infulence. I don't see why that made yall go into a tailspin :dead:
tell Mays this bby
he's a hateful ass fag
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:29:41 PM
Kae really is stupid
hfjdjdjdjdjd
why are we talking about dis!
uhh :uhh:
could it be that u quoted me with some bullshit
stop tryna minimize the black come up..
we were discussing kicking doors down and that is where she began doing so .. until Sam took her on tour with him to play both churches and clubs
u don't know shit like I said
"Knocking down doors" would imply that Aretha was the first to do something..and black girls were touring churches and concert halls in the 40's and 50's. She just wasn't truly important until the mid 60's which ain't a bad thing, we know she's a legend :dead:
Msmdjdm
Stop being fucking delusional
Quote from: BowDown on May 06, 2019, 10:30:36 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:29:41 PM
Kae really is stupid
hfjdjdjdjdjd
why are we talking about dis!
uhh :uhh:
could it be that u quoted me with some bullshit
stop tryna minimize the black come up..
we were discussing kicking doors down and that is where she began doing so .. until Sam took her on tour with him to play both churches and clubs
u don't know shit like I said
Which is why I don't understand how anyone can ever make logic of what the bitch says.
girl you're the biggest retard currently posting
move
Quote from: Kalifornia on May 06, 2019, 10:31:38 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:25:26 PM
Quote from: Kill Bill on May 06, 2019, 10:24:04 PM
ddfdf at Janet being local
Is she bigger than Mariah globally?
does Janet have a bigger song than ONe Sweet Day ?
questions that need answers
Like when I asked about Mariah's tour stats.
You gonna answer that?
:supluv: you post Janets global numbers and i'll post Mariah.
ready set GO! lmao!
Quote from: Trey on May 06, 2019, 09:52:05 PM
Amerie will definitely go down as a legend.
Waii :stressed:
Trailblazer self.
This raging drunk
Hcjdjdjjdjdjdjdjdkdkskekskkekskskskskskeekksskskeeks
To see Kae in here competing with Bow for stupidest member is quite a visual
I can no longer engage. Eek
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:30:21 PM
Quote from: Kill Bill on May 06, 2019, 10:29:00 PM
Beyonce has the bigger impact, but Janet had the bigger infulence. I don't see why that made yall go into a tailspin :dead:
!!!!!!
Like :plzstop:
That's all I fucking said :uhh:
And it's true
like from the new girls to the old girls have all cited Janet as an inspiration to their music.
Acknowledging Janets acomplishments doesn't mean it's shade to anyone else :dead:
Grow up fags
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:33:24 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia on May 06, 2019, 10:31:38 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:25:26 PM
Quote from: Kill Bill on May 06, 2019, 10:24:04 PM
ddfdf at Janet being local
Is she bigger than Mariah globally?
does Janet have a bigger song than ONe Sweet Day ?
questions that need answers
Like when I asked about Mariah's tour stats.
You gonna answer that?
:supluv: you post Janets global numbers and i'll post Mariah.
ready set GO! lmao!
I asked you first
ndbdn
love seeing Glock talk his stupid ass in circles
sbsmxjkd
wrong self
right again-a! What's that? 3 times this week?
:blessed:
love this
Imagine sitting up here discrediting the first female EVER ..
not black.. not white.. the first female to be inducted into the rock n Roll Hall of Fame :plzstop:
im seriously giggling
So at the end of the day, Janet's influence >>>>>>>>>
Just ask your faves lolz
Who's discrediting her? She just wasn't the FIRST
ndmdnxkxm
Youre the only one that believes that
n
& Janet is up there with MJ, Prince & Whitney, all black legends that stormed the 80's and the defined the MTV era.
Quote from: Kalifornia on May 06, 2019, 10:34:04 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:33:24 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia on May 06, 2019, 10:31:38 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:25:26 PM
Quote from: Kill Bill on May 06, 2019, 10:24:04 PM
ddfdf at Janet being local
Is she bigger than Mariah globally?
does Janet have a bigger song than ONe Sweet Day ?
questions that need answers
Like when I asked about Mariah's tour stats.
You gonna answer that?
:supluv: you post Janets global numbers and i'll post Mariah.
ready set GO! lmao!
I asked you first
Janet has been flopping for 11 years. How about that babe?
mariah went #3 on the hot 100 last year
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Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 10:33:08 PM
Quote from: BowDown on May 06, 2019, 10:30:36 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:29:41 PM
Kae really is stupid
hfjdjdjdjdjd
why are we talking about dis!
uhh :uhh:
could it be that u quoted me with some bullshit
stop tryna minimize the black come up..
we were discussing kicking doors down and that is where she began doing so .. until Sam took her on tour with him to play both churches and clubs
u don't know shit like I said
Which is why I don't understand how anyone can ever make logic of what the bitch says.
girl you're the biggest retard currently posting
move
You never know wtf you're taking about and you were dragged throughout each and every page in this thread.
Can u please quote me saying she was the first to do anything outside of the rock and Roll Hall of Fame? :plzstop:
eek.. you're scrambling and i love this shit
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:33:45 PM
Hcjdjdjjdjdjdjdjdkdkskekskkekskskskskskeekksskskeeks
To see Kae in here competing with Bow for stupidest member is quite a visual
I can no longer engage. Eek
:damselindistress:
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:37:31 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia on May 06, 2019, 10:34:04 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:33:24 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia on May 06, 2019, 10:31:38 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:25:26 PM
Quote from: Kill Bill on May 06, 2019, 10:24:04 PM
ddfdf at Janet being local
Is she bigger than Mariah globally?
does Janet have a bigger song than ONe Sweet Day ?
questions that need answers
Like when I asked about Mariah's tour stats.
You gonna answer that?
:supluv: you post Janets global numbers and i'll post Mariah.
ready set GO! lmao!
I asked you first
Jan-
Nah. What you're not gonna DEW is keep deflecting
Post them damn tour stats.
Quote from: BowDown on May 06, 2019, 10:38:44 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:33:45 PM
Hcjdjdjjdjdjdjdjdkdkskekskkekskskskskskeekksskskeeks
To see Kae in here competing with Bow for stupidest member is quite a visual
I can no longer engage. Eek
:damselindistress:
that's right, no one respects you
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Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:37:47 PM
Can u please quote me saying she was the first to do anything outside of the rock and Roll Hall of Fame? :plzstop:
eek.. you're scrambling and i love this shit
you didn't just say she was the girl that broke barriers? What does that imply? What does it mean?
Quote from: BowDown on May 06, 2019, 10:38:44 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:33:45 PM
Hcjdjdjjdjdjdjdjdkdkskekskkekskskskskskeekksskskeeks
To see Kae in here competing with Bow for stupidest member is quite a visual
I can no longer engage. Eek
:damselindistress:
BSMDNSNZMZMX
Stupid caping ass bitch
Are u gonna quote me saying she was the first
or are u gonna admit that u sat in here and argued ur opinion like a fucking idiot?
:rudone:
Fun Fact, Janet has zero double platinum songs.
:everythingok: this girl smoke and mirrors
Anyway yea I was correct and Glock was wrong again
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:41:26 PM
Fun Fact, Janet has zero double platinum songs.
:everythingok: this girl smoke and mirrors
:guys:
Wtf
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:41:26 PM
Fun Fact, none of Mariah's "Diamond" albums have actually sold 10 mil copies
:everythingok: this girl smoke and mirrors
wtf :uhh:
Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 10:42:38 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:41:26 PM
Fun Fact, Janet has zero double platinum songs.
:everythingok: this girl smoke and mirrors
:guys:
Wtf
:damselindistress: swear on my momma IM JUST finding this out.
BITCH.... Mayday... :udontlookok:
Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 10:40:36 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:37:47 PM
Can u please quote me saying she was the first to do anything outside of the rock and Roll Hall of Fame? :plzstop:
eek.. you're scrambling and i love this shit
you didn't just say she was the girl that broke barriers? What does that imply? What does it mean?
again
Where did I say she was the first?
This is what u do.
U kinda don't encompass the abilities to debate.. you can learn so much :plzstop:
Aretha kicked down doors for the girls that followed her.. that's factual.
Martin Luther King isn't the first civil rights leader.. but his work was some of the most effective that we've seen in a leader ..
Sure there were several before him
But he kicked down doors.. and propelled a generation of leaders :plzstop:
I pray u are fucking trolling
Like :uhh:
Aretha went through a lot of bullshit in the industry so that girls after her wouldn't have to and played every black stage, church and fought to play in the white only pavilions
She's revered as a fucking civil rights Girl :uhh:
Take the fucking L
She opened the doors for black singers
Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 10:42:27 PM
Anyway yea I was correct and Glock was wrong again
bby sis..
I'm over here cracking ur eggs now
Would u like them over easy? Or a scrambled tea?
Would you like cheese on ya mess?
What's interesting about Janet is that she never relied on just albums or just singles, her sales are about half and half, she was able to truly do it all! Also, she's been under-certified for years..
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Quote from: BowDown on May 06, 2019, 10:48:17 PM
What's interesting about Janet is that she never relied on just albums or just singles, her sales are about half and half, she was able to truly do it all! Also, she's been under-certified for years..
f
Quote from: BowDown on May 06, 2019, 10:48:17 PM
What's interesting about Janet is that she never relied on just albums or just singles, her sales are about half and half, she was able to truly do it all! Also, she's been under-certified for years..
!! no tommy motola zipping and zooting scamming charts and mess, leave that to the insecure girls that need to br validated lmao!
Anyway yea I was right and Glock wasn't
Diana was the success first :blessed:
prove it wrong
& Janet also has a better legacy than Mariah lmao!
don't @ me about it!
Y'all really in here arguing huh
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Quote from: Kill Bill on May 06, 2019, 10:50:03 PM
Quote from: BowDown on May 06, 2019, 10:48:17 PM
What's interesting about Janet is that she never relied on just albums or just singles, her sales are about half and half, she was able to truly do it all! Also, she's been under-certified for years..
!! no tommy motola zipping and zooting scamming charts and mess, leave that to the insecure girls that need to br validated lmao!
I guess Tommy pulled strings for Mariah last year huh?
also...
Quote from: Kill Bill on May 06, 2019, 10:51:03 PM
& Janet also has a better legacy than Mariah lmao!
don't @ me about it!
wake UP. All of Mariahs EVERYTHING will be more remembered than any Janet anything. r u smoking crack lol
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Quote from: Kill Bill on May 06, 2019, 10:50:03 PM
Quote from: BowDown on May 06, 2019, 10:48:17 PM
What's interesting about Janet is that she never relied on just albums or just singles, her sales are about half and half, she was able to truly do it all! Also, she's been under-certified for years..
!! no tommy motola zipping and zooting scamming charts and mess, leave that to the insecure girls that need to br validated lmao!
Pretty much.
Grace Jones is a legend and an icon. Wow.
(https://sayyestolifeblog.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/jumpsuit.jpg?w=255&h=385)
She fucked the head of Sony and married him. Like..
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on May 06, 2019, 10:55:31 PM
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we love a beauty queen and someone that had an actual model contract :ohwow:
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:54:18 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:52:26 PM
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(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-o8udHr92U14/URjggM9KPQI/AAAAAAAAUIM/UPiofL8kZKs/s1600/whitney+houston+iconic.jpg)
this stunning ass bitch :'(
In January 1961, Columbia issued Franklin's first secular album, Aretha: With The Ray Bryant Combo. The album featured her first single to chart the Billboard Hot 100, "Won't Be Long", which also peaked at number 7 on the R&B chart.[40] Mostly produced by Clyde Otis, Franklin's Columbia recordings saw her performing in diverse genres such as standards, vocal jazz, blues, doo-wop and rhythm and blues. Before the year was out, Franklin scored her first top 40 single with her rendition of the standard "Rock-a-Bye Your Baby with a Dixie Melody", the b-side of which was the R&B hit "Operation Heartbreak". "Rock-a-Bye" became her first international hit, reaching the top 40 in Australia and Canada.[citation needed] By the end of 1961, Franklin was named as a "new-star female vocalist" in DownBeat magazine.[41] In 1962, Columbia issued two more albums, The Electrifying Aretha Franklin and The Tender, the Moving, the Swinging Aretha Franklin,[42][43] the latter of which reached No. 69 on the Billboard chart.[44]
Wait for a bit of an international slay
:stressed:
This girl was doing it HUH?
I'm gagging at all these genres jzjsjsjsj
kinda don't know any Diana song outside of "I'm coming out"
the fact that someone would even mention her among all these girls jdjdjdjddjdjeke
eek
Love this thread
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https://www.instagram.com/sadeadu_/p/Be-4HAzlElC/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=18r8nbbea1n4x
This iconic ass heavenly bitch.
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Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 11:02:50 PM
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Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 11:00:22 PM
Love this thread
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Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:56:17 PM
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we love a beauty queen and someone that had an actual model contract :ohwow:
I MEAN!!!!!!
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And Aretha is fckn UGLY
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Can I get a woot woot!
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Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 11:07:20 PM
Can I get a woot woot!
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woo' woo'! LOL
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Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 11:12:12 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 11:07:20 PM
Can I get a woot woot!
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woo' woo'! LOL
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Grrr
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Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 11:12:12 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 11:07:20 PM
Can I get a woot woot!
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woo' woo'! LOL
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:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
This thread glglggghhhhh
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:20:15 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:16:34 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:15:35 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:12:42 PM
Aretha flopped ?
Yet her fourth mainstream single was a TOP 40
which was a Broadway chune
okk !,!:!:&:&:'
:plzstop:
flop!
:ummwhat: Glock bruv and fellow 'retha... she flopped for most of her career
Aretha didnt really sell at all for real. But when one of her songs STUCK it STUCK because of of her delivery. Thats why she's legendary
flopped to what standards Bruv?
She has more #1 songs than any other artist in history
She had 34 (?) albums from debut to 1998 and only 7 even went gold and only one platinum
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Commercially Aretha was definitely a flop. Not sure what Glock is rambling about.
:guys:
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:58:57 PM
I'm gagging at all these genres jzjsjsjsj
kinda don't know any Diana song outside of "I'm coming out"
the fact that someone would even mention her among all these girls jdjdjdjddjdjeke
eek
Diana > Aretha
And she's still alive faggot
Quote from: BowDown on May 06, 2019, 10:54:54 PM
Quote from: Kill Bill on May 06, 2019, 10:50:03 PM
Quote from: BowDown on May 06, 2019, 10:48:17 PM
What's interesting about Janet is that she never relied on just albums or just singles, her sales are about half and half, she was able to truly do it all! Also, she's been under-certified for years..
!! no tommy motola zipping and zooting scamming charts and mess, leave that to the insecure girls that need to br validated lmao!
Pretty much.
Exactly. From Moo fuckin for tracks, to the payola scams, to these over certified albums.
A smoke & mirrors mess.
No wonder karma stomped out her voice & waistline.
Quote from: Kalifornia on May 07, 2019, 11:19:07 AM
Quote from: BowDown on May 06, 2019, 10:54:54 PM
Quote from: Kill Bill on May 06, 2019, 10:50:03 PM
Quote from: BowDown on May 06, 2019, 10:48:17 PM
What's interesting about Janet is that she never relied on just albums or just singles, her sales are about half and half, she was able to truly do it all! Also, she's been under-certified for years..
!! no tommy motola zipping and zooting scamming charts and mess, leave that to the insecure girls that need to br validated lmao!
Pretty much.
Exactly. From Moo fuckin for tracks, to the payola scams, to these over certified albums.
A smoke & mirrors mess.
No wonder karma stomped out her voice & waistline.
bfbfxnbfgngfnhgnhgmgh
im scared
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:20:15 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:16:34 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 10:15:35 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:12:42 PM
Aretha flopped ?
Yet her fourth mainstream single was a TOP 40
which was a Broadway chune
okk !,!:!:&:&:'
:plzstop:
flop!
:ummwhat: Glock bruv and fellow 'retha... she flopped for most of her career
Aretha didnt really sell at all for real. But when one of her songs STUCK it STUCK because of of her delivery. Thats why she's legendary
flopped to what standards Bruv?
She has more #1 songs than any other artist in history
She had 34 (?) albums from debut to 1998 and only 7 even went gold and only one platinum
holy shit
What went on In here
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:29:41 PM
Kae really is stupid
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why are we talking about dis!
uhh :uhh:
could it be that u quoted me with some bullshit
stop tryna minimize the black come up..
we were discussing kicking doors down and that is where she began doing so .. until Sam took her on tour with him to play both churches and clubs
u don't know shit like I said
:guys:
The "(?)" djjjhhhjjjkkkkkkkfvffffffffffff
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:46:26 PM
Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 10:40:36 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:37:47 PM
Can u please quote me saying she was the first to do anything outside of the rock and Roll Hall of Fame? :plzstop:
eek.. you're scrambling and i love this shit
you didn't just say she was the girl that broke barriers? What does that imply? What does it mean?
again
Where did I say she was the first?
This is what u do.
U kinda don't encompass the abilities to debate.. you can learn so much :plzstop:
Aretha kicked down doors for the girls that followed her.. that's factual.
Martin Luther King isn't the first civil rights leader.. but his work was some of the most effective that we've seen in a leader ..
Sure there were several before him
But he kicked down doors.. and propelled a generation of leaders :plzstop:
I pray u are fucking trolling
Like :uhh:
Aretha went through a lot of bullshit in the industry so that girls after her wouldn't have to and played every black stage, church and fought to play in the white only pavilions
She's revered as a fucking civil rights Girl :uhh:
Take the fucking L
She opened the doors for black singers
:guys:
Quote from: Kalifornia on May 07, 2019, 11:19:07 AM
Quote from: BowDown on May 06, 2019, 10:54:54 PM
Quote from: Kill Bill on May 06, 2019, 10:50:03 PM
Quote from: BowDown on May 06, 2019, 10:48:17 PM
What's interesting about Janet is that she never relied on just albums or just singles, her sales are about half and half, she was able to truly do it all! Also, she's been under-certified for years..
!! no tommy motola zipping and zooting scamming charts and mess, leave that to the insecure girls that need to br validated lmao!
Pretty much.
Exactly. From Moo fuckin for tracks, to the payola scams, to these over certified albums.
A smoke & mirrors mess.
No wonder karma stomped out her voice & waistline.
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
I hate y'all :kii:
mariah used to fuck for tracks?
:omgwatshappening:
Quote from: MoonPrismPower on May 07, 2019, 11:45:49 AM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:46:26 PM
Quote from: Dark Lady. on May 06, 2019, 10:40:36 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:37:47 PM
Can u please quote me saying she was the first to do anything outside of the rock and Roll Hall of Fame? :plzstop:
eek.. you're scrambling and i love this shit
you didn't just say she was the girl that broke barriers? What does that imply? What does it mean?
again
Where did I say she was the first?
This is what u do.
U kinda don't encompass the abilities to debate.. you can learn so much :plzstop:
Aretha kicked down doors for the girls that followed her.. that's factual.
Martin Luther King isn't the first civil rights leader.. but his work was some of the most effective that we've seen in a leader ..
Sure there were several before him
But he kicked down doors.. and propelled a generation of leaders :plzstop:
I pray u are fucking trolling
Like :uhh:
Aretha went through a lot of bullshit in the industry so that girls after her wouldn't have to and played every black stage, church and fought to play in the white only pavilions
She's revered as a fucking civil rights Girl :uhh:
Take the fucking L
She opened the doors for black singers
:guys:
grgdgf they way KING stomped her out with the MLK analogy
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Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 11:13:05 PM
Quote from: The Mad King. on May 06, 2019, 11:12:12 PM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 11:07:20 PM
Can I get a woot woot!
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woo' woo'! LOL
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Grrr
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Quote from: LOONA. on May 07, 2019, 11:11:30 AM
Quote from: GLO' UP on May 06, 2019, 10:58:57 PM
I'm gagging at all these genres jzjsjsjsj
kinda don't know any Diana song outside of "I'm coming out"
the fact that someone would even mention her among all these girls jdjdjdjddjdjeke
eek
Diana > Aretha
And she's still alive faggot
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Quote from: MoonPrismPower on May 07, 2019, 11:51:50 AM
mariah used to fuck for tracks?
:omgwatshappening:
not sure who she was fuckin
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Janet was the one tossing that Saddam Hussein pussy around a bit
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jldkasflidj quoted the wrong thing