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Title: stank on AMAS
Post by: asdfghjkl on November 23, 2015, 12:29:09 AM
@Tyrese couldn't even get a nomination for Soul R&B Album at the #AMAs? That's crazy and confusing! WHAT IS SOUL R&B? I need answers!..

Ima let you finish but @Tyrese had the best soul album of all times!..lol SOUL ALBUM!.. We might have forgotten what that means.. I need answers! #blackrose#amas #realrnbfans

@Tyrese a #1 R&B album in almost 20 countries should be reminder enough..lol. Can't redefine soul! You can only exclude it.. Smh

For the record I LOVE @theweeknd album! He also deserves the right to be categorized correctly! Why is he just considered R&B? #worldmusic

@theweeknd dominated ALL artist! I pray he's up for song and album of the year!.. #worldmusic

There should be a soul R&B category and a pop R&B category. Am I wrong? Isn't there a difference?
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Sinpool on November 23, 2015, 12:32:36 AM
d

Don't nobody care about no damn Tyrese
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: asdfghjkl on November 23, 2015, 12:38:05 AM
77k ppl would disagree a bit
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: death on November 23, 2015, 12:40:59 AM
szdfcgbnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

these crusty hasbeenigger dummies dnt shut UP!
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: BAPHOMET. on November 23, 2015, 12:43:10 AM
Quote from: asdfghjkl on November 23, 2015, 12:38:05 AM
77k ppl would disagree a bit

I hope they bought his alb'  :ohwow:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: asdfghjkl on November 23, 2015, 12:50:45 AM
Quote from: Baphomet. on November 23, 2015, 12:43:10 AM
Quote from: asdfghjkl on November 23, 2015, 12:38:05 AM
77k ppl would disagree a bit

I hope they bought his alb'  :ohwow:

they  did 1st week  :supluv:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RekeRig on November 23, 2015, 01:01:20 AM
yea, there needs to be a progressive R&B or pop R&B category or something
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: BAPHOMET. on November 23, 2015, 01:01:39 AM
Quote from: asdfghjkl on November 23, 2015, 12:50:45 AM
Quote from: Baphomet. on November 23, 2015, 12:43:10 AM
Quote from: asdfghjkl on November 23, 2015, 12:38:05 AM
77k ppl would disagree a bit

I hope they bought his alb'  :ohwow:

they  did 1st week  :supluv:

I just realize you weren't talking about Retweets.  :kii:

but yeah, Tygrease is always up in fumes
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: tigernathan on November 23, 2015, 01:06:02 AM
Tyrese and sTank are always fuming on IG and Twitter. Bitching about how there's no love for R&B artists but the reality is no one's checking for their shit music. Ya suck! lol!
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Lazarus on November 23, 2015, 01:12:42 AM
n

Reminds of that time he was complaining over that BET nomination
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Miranda on November 23, 2015, 06:39:33 AM
He has a point. But that album was not anywhere near the best soul album
of all time lol
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 06:46:20 AM
He made good points
too bad Black ppl are too dumb to see
and support
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Miranda on November 23, 2015, 06:48:27 AM
But then again was he trying to throw shade at Chris Brown, or Trey Songz?

Trey is def r&b, and he is a frequent collaborator of Chris's... So what is he trying to say? Create an extra category for Tyrese?
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 06:57:49 AM
Quote from: Mack on November 23, 2015, 06:48:27 AM
But then again was he trying to throw shade at Chris Brown, or Trey Songz?

Trey is def r&b, and he is a frequent collaborator of Chris's... So what is he trying to say? Create an extra category for Tyrese?
sssss
basically
So him n Tyrese can win a damn award sometime
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 07:12:45 AM
Quote from: Mack on November 23, 2015, 06:48:27 AM
But then again was he trying to throw shade at Chris Brown, or Trey Songz?

Trey is def r&b, and he is a frequent collaborator of Chris's... So what is he trying to say? Create an extra category for Tyrese?
Did Chris or Trey win or were they nominated last night?
either way they are not SOUL artists so he would be correct
so it's clearly not shade
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Code Red: itsMista on November 23, 2015, 07:17:40 AM
That album was not good. It was was so boring. Just because he throw a church choir and old sound don't make it nothing. Nice first week but it did nothing afterwards
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 08:09:01 AM
He doesn't justify why there would be a strictly soul or RnB/Soul RnB/Pop cat at the AMAs tho

He's just being catty cause he can't win :kii:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Gilgamesh. on November 23, 2015, 08:14:54 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 06:57:49 AM
Quote from: Mack on November 23, 2015, 06:48:27 AM
But then again was he trying to throw shade at Chris Brown, or Trey Songz?

Trey is def r&b, and he is a frequent collaborator of Chris's... So what is he trying to say? Create an extra category for Tyrese?
sssss
basically
So him n Tyrese can win a damn award sometime

It's no different from when they Beyonce and Ledisi in the same category st the Grammy's a few years ago. Beyonce won for Single Ladies, which was deserving, but as a result a lot of great R&B records were passed up because the categories are so sloppy.
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Gilgamesh. on November 23, 2015, 08:16:44 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 08:09:01 AM
He doesn't justify why there would be a strictly soul or RnB/Soul RnB/Pop cat at the AMAs tho

He's just being catty cause he can't win :kii:

But why shouldn't there be? It celebrates American music, last time I checked America is the home of Soul, so..?

And i'm far from a fan of either of them, I haven't even heard Tyrese's album but fair is fair.
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: GLOCK on November 23, 2015, 08:18:55 AM
He is right tho
Just cuz y'all don't like him doesn't make it right
The R&B artist are shitted on everywhere
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Miranda on November 23, 2015, 08:26:41 AM
The nominees were Chris Brown, Trey Songz and Weeknd. So who is he mad at?
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Lazarus on November 23, 2015, 08:32:07 AM
Dead

AMAs are based on sales, radio play, social media, etc. His ass just didn't qualify or compete. Better luck next time.
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Rxxf on November 23, 2015, 08:32:54 AM
I think Tyrese is referring to Urban AC type of R&B. There needs to be a category for them, honestly.
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 08:38:01 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on November 23, 2015, 08:16:44 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 08:09:01 AM
He doesn't justify why there would be a strictly soul or RnB/Soul RnB/Pop cat at the AMAs tho

He's just being catty cause he can't win :kii:

But why shouldn't there be? It celebrates American music, last time I checked America is the home of Soul, so..?

And i'm far from a fan of either of them, I haven't even heard Tyrese's album but fair is fair.
now I agree with the Ledisi/Beyonc? mess. But that's because of the distinction in their genres.

For all practical purposes DRYese and sTank have been typical RNB men their whole careers. sTank even recently collabed with Chris n Omarion I think.

I just feel like in this case he's crying wolf. TRYese only has one "soul" alber. He can't expect to be lauded and highly praised as this great soul singer.

And sTank makes the same music as Chris n Trey imo
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Lazarus on November 23, 2015, 08:43:56 AM
 This nigga won 1 before.

I'm fuckin' done.
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 08:49:18 AM
sssss
Who Tryese?

cause sTank hasn't won any awards in his career, no shade

He only got nominated for smthng when he was linked with Ginuwine in TGT lolz
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Lazarus on November 23, 2015, 09:00:50 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 08:49:18 AM
sssss
Who Tryese?

cause sTank hasn't won any awards in his career, no shade

He only got nominated for smthng when he was linked with Ginuwine in TGT lolz

Yeah Tyrese for Favorite Soul/R&B New Artist
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: GLOCK on November 23, 2015, 09:14:46 AM
v
So what..
Urban AC shouldn't be fazed out or treated like shit
They need a few awards
Just like them country hoes got
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: GLOCK on November 23, 2015, 09:15:03 AM
I don't even like them but they are right
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: GLOCK on November 23, 2015, 09:15:41 AM
And keep in mind faggots .. It's almost time for our faves to creep into AC ... Dummies
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Lazarus on November 23, 2015, 09:27:54 AM
ssssss
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 09:31:57 AM
Glock is kinda preaching in here
getting Bentley together tbh wow
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Herb. on November 23, 2015, 09:36:08 AM
ray

fck u
and that closet u rode in on
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 09:37:30 AM
Ok
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 09:38:13 AM
You're aroused by women by the way
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Herb. on November 23, 2015, 09:38:15 AM
:wellheythere:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Lazarus on November 23, 2015, 09:38:34 AM
They rant when they want to. It's pointless. It's aggravating. It's useless.
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 09:39:51 AM
It's not useless to them
getting something off their chest on their own social networks
no one has to follow them
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 09:40:42 AM
:dead: I already said there should be distinction when Romero brought up Ledisi/Beyonce

BUT it doesn't change the facts
sTank is rNb and DRYese has been his whole career :dead:
sTank's late attempt to collab with these younger singers, then complain about not getting any awards is a ki

tell this gorl she's not getting her own cat so she can finally win an award :kii: :kii:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: MelMel on November 23, 2015, 09:42:25 AM
not when they have an Adult Contemporary Pop Artist category and Taylor Swift ends up winning.

They need more category for the R/B categories and they need to stop placing only the "top" artists in these categories.
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Lazarus on November 23, 2015, 09:43:23 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:39:51 AM
It's not useless to them
getting something off their chest on their own social networks
no one has to follow them

I said what I said.  :plea:

Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 09:44:05 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 09:43:23 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:39:51 AM
It's not useless to them
getting something off their chest on their own social networks
no one has to follow them

I said what I said.  :plea:
so did Tank :plea:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Lazarus on November 23, 2015, 09:45:22 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:44:05 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 09:43:23 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:39:51 AM
It's not useless to them
getting something off their chest on their own social networks
no one has to follow them

I said what I said.  :plea:
so did Tank :plea:

Stank can have a several seats :plea:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 09:47:26 AM
Yea Bent was put I his place
Tank's music is just as different from Chris & Trey's
as Bey's music is from Ledisi's
R&B/Pop vs R&B/Soul
and they do deserve a category to be recognized in
however of course "crabs in a barrel" pulling each other down
instead of lifting each other up
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 09:48:09 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 09:45:22 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:44:05 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 09:43:23 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:39:51 AM
It's not useless to them
getting something off their chest on their own social networks
no one has to follow them

I said what I said.  :plea:
so did Tank :plea:

Stank can have a several seats :plea:
Mya has several seats
on several dicks :plea:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Kaeli. on November 23, 2015, 09:49:31 AM
D'Angelo was nominated and he makes like the niggiest music
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 09:51:57 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:47:26 AM

Tank's music is just as different from Chris & Trey's
as Bey's music is from Ledisi's
R&B/Pop vs R&B/Soul

now you know this isn't true
sTank just collabed with Chris n Omari did he not? :dead:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 09:52:29 AM
since when has sTank been rNb/Soul :dead:
just cause he want an award n stuffs :kii:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Lazarus on November 23, 2015, 09:52:56 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:48:09 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 09:45:22 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:44:05 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 09:43:23 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:39:51 AM
It's not useless to them
getting something off their chest on their own social networks
no one has to follow them

I said what I said.  :plea:
so did Tank :plea:

Stank can have a several seats :plea:
Mya has several seats
on several dicks :plea:

And so does Tank. Dick riding Tyrese.  :plea:

Just cause he can't get a nod of his own and at the bottom of the barrel.
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Kaeli. on November 23, 2015, 09:53:10 AM
Oh that was for artist nvm lolz
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 09:53:23 AM
Rihanna won for Soul/R&B female artist again?
she doesn't even have her soul
Yea the AMAs need to be revamped, glad I didn't watch
Soul Train>>>
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Lazarus on November 23, 2015, 09:53:39 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 09:51:57 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:47:26 AM

Tank's music is just as different from Chris & Trey's
as Bey's music is from Ledisi's
R&B/Pop vs R&B/Soul

now you know this isn't true
sTank just collabed with Chris n Omari did he not? :dead:

  :plzstop: :plzstop:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 09:55:14 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 09:52:56 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:48:09 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 09:45:22 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:44:05 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 09:43:23 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:39:51 AM
It's not useless to them
getting something off their chest on their own social networks
no one has to follow them

I said what I said.  :plea:
so did Tank :plea:

Stank can have a several seats :plea:
Mya has several seats
on several dicks :plea:

And so does Tank. Dick riding Tyrese.  :plea:

Just cause he can't get a nod of his own and at the bottom of the barrel.
Tank doesn't even have an album out
he's not out here for himself
Tyrese is his friend, who made a good album
but can't get recognized
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 09:57:36 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 09:51:57 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:47:26 AM

Tank's music is just as different from Chris & Trey's
as Bey's music is from Ledisi's
R&B/Pop vs R&B/Soul

now you know this isn't true
sTank just collabed with Chris n Omari did he not? :dead:
you keep mentioning that but it doesn't matter :dead:
John Legend worked with Mehgan Trainor
does that mean they make the same music?
Is he a rapper because he worked with Common?
I mean where is the logic?
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 09:58:12 AM
and you can't really box Urban music like that anymore... there's so many variations

Alicia/John ?

Neyo/Beyonce ?

Ledisi/Jill

Erykah/Maxwell

Usher/Rih

Brandy/sTank/Tamar

like... you'd have to do Traditional rNb, rNb/pop, rNb/soul, rNb/Neosoul, Contem rNb, etc

and then what happens when Adele and Sam STORM the rNb/soul cat :dead:


am saying yeah, split up the cats, but am tellin yawl.. the REAL issue is sTank not winning any awards... like.. ever lolz
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Lazarus on November 23, 2015, 09:58:22 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:55:14 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 09:52:56 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:48:09 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 09:45:22 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:44:05 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 09:43:23 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:39:51 AM
It's not useless to them
getting something off their chest on their own social networks
no one has to follow them

I said what I said.  :plea:
so did Tank :plea:

Stank can have a several seats :plea:
Mya has several seats
on several dicks :plea:

And so does Tank. Dick riding Tyrese.  :plea:

Just cause he can't get a nod of his own and at the bottom of the barrel.
Tank doesn't even have an album out
he's not out here for himself
Tyrese is his friend, who made a good album
but can't get recognized

Translation dick riding.
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Ulysses on November 23, 2015, 09:58:38 AM
It's true though. Tyrese def had the best Soul/R&B album this past year.
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 09:58:58 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 09:58:22 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:55:14 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 09:52:56 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:48:09 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 09:45:22 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:44:05 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 09:43:23 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:39:51 AM
It's not useless to them
getting something off their chest on their own social networks
no one has to follow them

I said what I said.  :plea:
so did Tank :plea:

Stank can have a several seats :plea:
Mya has several seats
on several dicks :plea:

And so does Tank. Dick riding Tyrese.  :plea:

Just cause he can't get a nod of his own and at the bottom of the barrel.
Tank doesn't even have an album out
he's not out here for himself
Tyrese is his friend, who made a good album
but can't get recognized

Translation dick riding.
no supporting
look it up
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Lazarus on November 23, 2015, 09:59:36 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 09:58:12 AM
and you can't really box Urban music like that anymore... there's so many variations

Alicia/John ?

Neyo/Beyonce ?

Ledisi/Jill

Erykah/Maxwell

Usher/Rih

Brandy/sTank/Tamar

like... you'd have to do Traditional rNb, rNb/pop, rNb/soul, rNb/Neosoul, Contem rNb, etc

and then what happens when Adele and Sam STORM the rNb/soul cat :dead:


am saying yeah, split up the cats, but am tellin yawl.. the REAL issue is sTank not winning any awards... like.. ever lolz

!!!!
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 10:00:45 AM
Tank has awards for his writing contributions
:feelinmyself:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Kaeli. on November 23, 2015, 10:02:08 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 09:58:12 AM
and you can't really box Urban music like that anymore... there's so many variations

Alicia/John ?

Neyo/Beyonce ?

Ledisi/Jill

Erykah/Maxwell

Usher/Rih

Brandy/sTank/Tamar

like... you'd have to do Traditional rNb, rNb/pop, rNb/soul, rNb/Neosoul, Contem rNb, etc

and then what happens when Adele and Sam STORM the rNb/soul cat :dead:


am saying yeah, split up the cats, but am tellin yawl.. the REAL issue is sTank not winning any awards... like.. ever lolz

Yeah basically. Tank and Tyrese stay angry about shit. Trying to use being the "voice of R&B" thing to mask the fact that they're angry that they're flopping  :butwait!:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Lazarus on November 23, 2015, 10:02:47 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:58:58 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 09:58:22 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:55:14 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 09:52:56 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:48:09 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 09:45:22 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:44:05 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 09:43:23 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 09:39:51 AM
It's not useless to them
getting something off their chest on their own social networks
no one has to follow them

I said what I said.  :plea:
so did Tank :plea:

Stank can have a several seats :plea:
Mya has several seats
on several dicks :plea:

And so does Tank. Dick riding Tyrese.  :plea:

Just cause he can't get a nod of his own and at the bottom of the barrel.
Tank doesn't even have an album out
he's not out here for himself
Tyrese is his friend, who made a good album
but can't get recognized

Translation dick riding.
no supporting
look it up
v
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Kurama on November 23, 2015, 10:03:18 AM
Quote from: Mack on November 23, 2015, 06:39:33 AM
He has a point.
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Kaeli. on November 23, 2015, 10:03:39 AM
I hope they fucking give him a grammy nom or two because the meltdown is gonna be real if he doesn't.
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Lazarus on November 23, 2015, 10:03:42 AM
QuoteIn terms of total album sales, Ginuwine has shifted the most, with 6.98 million, while Tyrese has moved 3.69 million. Tank has sold 1.76 million albums. Ginuwine's best seller is 1999's "100% Ginuwine," with 2 million; while Tyrese's self-titled 1999 debut is his biggest, with 1.3 million. Tank's "Force of Nature," released in 2001, is his largest seller, with 775,000.

I see why Stank stay fuming.  :plzstop:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Lazarus on November 23, 2015, 10:04:38 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:03:42 AM
QuoteIn terms of total album sales, Ginuwine has shifted the most, with 6.98 million, while Tyrese has moved 3.69 million. Tank has sold 1.76 million albums. Ginuwine's best seller is 1999's "100% Ginuwine," with 2 million; while Tyrese's self-titled 1999 debut is his biggest, with 1.3 million. Tank's "Force of Nature," released in 2001, is his largest seller, with 775,000.

I see why Stank stay fuming.  :plzstop:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: GYNandTONIC on November 23, 2015, 10:04:47 AM
One thing that was pretty clear last night is that black people are running out of space in the current music climate. Yet our culture remains front a center. So many black back up singers. So much hip hop inspired choreo. 90s style r&b is kinda dominating the white pop market. The street inspired fashions.

I honestly dont know what the solution is. Our artist are producing music at a easy bake oven rate just to stay relevant. But we're lacking artistry in a major way. We are so stuck creatively.







Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 10:05:28 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on November 23, 2015, 10:02:08 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 09:58:12 AM
and you can't really box Urban music like that anymore... there's so many variations

Alicia/John ?

Neyo/Beyonce ?

Ledisi/Jill

Erykah/Maxwell

Usher/Rih

Brandy/sTank/Tamar

like... you'd have to do Traditional rNb, rNb/pop, rNb/soul, rNb/Neosoul, Contem rNb, etc

and then what happens when Adele and Sam STORM the rNb/soul cat :dead:


am saying yeah, split up the cats, but am tellin yawl.. the REAL issue is sTank not winning any awards... like.. ever lolz

Yeah basically. Tank and Tyrese stay angry about shit. Trying to use being the "voice of R&B" thing to mask the fact that they're angry that they're flopping  :butwait!:
why shouldn't they be mad that R&B as a whole is flopping?
Why is it funny? I mean it's hehe haha until someone uses the same logic to shade Bran who is in the same boat right now
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 10:05:50 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:03:42 AM
QuoteIn terms of total album sales, Ginuwine has shifted the most, with 6.98 million, while Tyrese has moved 3.69 million. Tank has sold 1.76 million albums. Ginuwine's best seller is 1999's "100% Ginuwine," with 2 million; while Tyrese's self-titled 1999 debut is his biggest, with 1.3 million. Tank's "Force of Nature," released in 2001, is his largest seller, with 775,000.

I see why Stank stay fuming.  :plzstop:
ssss

so glad Elgin is done with those flops :kii:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 10:07:41 AM
https://instagram.com/p/9_5YNsFHp3/
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 10:08:52 AM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on November 23, 2015, 10:04:47 AM
One thing that was pretty clear last night is that black people are running out of space in the current music climate. Yet our culture remains front a center. So many black back up singers. So much hip hop inspired choreo. 90s style r&b is kinda dominating the white pop market. The street inspired fashions.

I honestly dont know what the solution is. Our artist are producing music at a easy bake oven rate nust to stay relevant. But were lacking artistry in a major way. We are so stuck creatively.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean... it's SAD to look at.
I've noticed it alot with the Kpop threads Mel posts... like.. everything is stolen from us, and they refuse to give credit or homage :dead:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Lazarus on November 23, 2015, 10:08:58 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 10:05:50 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:03:42 AM
QuoteIn terms of total album sales, Ginuwine has shifted the most, with 6.98 million, while Tyrese has moved 3.69 million. Tank has sold 1.76 million albums. Ginuwine's best seller is 1999's "100% Ginuwine," with 2 million; while Tyrese's self-titled 1999 debut is his biggest, with 1.3 million. Tank's "Force of Nature," released in 2001, is his largest seller, with 775,000.

I see why Stank stay fuming.  :plzstop:
ssss

so glad Elgin is done with those flops :kii:

Nigga just can't catch a break

:feelinmyself:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 10:10:13 AM
sTank's wikipedia page doesn't say he's won any awards....


or at least it didn't after I edited it
:feelinmyself:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 10:13:05 AM
Looks like TGTs working on another album
FAILgin must be low on funds after Sole left him high and dry
:feelinmyself:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 10:14:22 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:08:58 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 10:05:50 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:03:42 AM
QuoteIn terms of total album sales, Ginuwine has shifted the most, with 6.98 million, while Tyrese has moved 3.69 million. Tank has sold 1.76 million albums. Ginuwine's best seller is 1999's "100% Ginuwine," with 2 million; while Tyrese's self-titled 1999 debut is his biggest, with 1.3 million. Tank's "Force of Nature," released in 2001, is his largest seller, with 775,000.

I see why Stank stay fuming.  :plzstop:
ssss

so glad Elgin is done with those flops :kii:

Nigga just can't catch a break

:feelinmyself:
hes kinda been outselling Mya
and still doing well enough for a major label to keep him on their roster
how's Planet 0 doing?
:feelingmyself:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 10:14:39 AM
sTank called him up from what I've heard :kii: :dead:
askin him to help on his tour n stuffs :kii:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 10:17:35 AM
Ty kinda hinted that an "old friend" called him & Tank crying
saying he was broke and needs to get the group back together
didn't say any names though hmmm
:popeyes:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Lazarus on November 23, 2015, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:14:22 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:08:58 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 10:05:50 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:03:42 AM
QuoteIn terms of total album sales, Ginuwine has shifted the most, with 6.98 million, while Tyrese has moved 3.69 million. Tank has sold 1.76 million albums. Ginuwine's best seller is 1999's "100% Ginuwine," with 2 million; while Tyrese's self-titled 1999 debut is his biggest, with 1.3 million. Tank's "Force of Nature," released in 2001, is his largest seller, with 775,000.

I see why Stank stay fuming.  :plzstop:
ssss

so glad Elgin is done with those flops :kii:

Nigga just can't catch a break

:feelinmyself:
hes kinda been outselling Mya
and still doing well enough for a major label to keep him on their roster
how's Planet 0 doing?
:feelingmyself:

Mya>Tank period

She's outsold him. She has awards and nominations.

He's at the bottom of the barrel

TGT is kinda his last hope

And being on a major label these days ain't all it cracked up to be.

:receipts:

Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 10:18:56 AM
Interesting that Tank is featured on Tyrese album
and Brandy, and others but no Elgin
hmmm
:popeyes:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Scott. on November 23, 2015, 10:19:53 AM
Quote from: G L O C K on November 23, 2015, 08:18:55 AM
He is right tho
Just cuz y'all don't like him doesn't make it right
The R&B artist are shitted on everywhere

They really are. It's annoying and it's even more annoying that people refuse to see that fact.
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 10:21:05 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:14:22 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:08:58 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 10:05:50 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:03:42 AM
QuoteIn terms of total album sales, Ginuwine has shifted the most, with 6.98 million, while Tyrese has moved 3.69 million. Tank has sold 1.76 million albums. Ginuwine's best seller is 1999's "100% Ginuwine," with 2 million; while Tyrese's self-titled 1999 debut is his biggest, with 1.3 million. Tank's "Force of Nature," released in 2001, is his largest seller, with 775,000.

I see why Stank stay fuming.  :plzstop:
ssss

so glad Elgin is done with those flops :kii:

Nigga just can't catch a break

:feelinmyself:
hes kinda been outselling Mya
and still doing well enough for a major label to keep him on their roster
how's Planet 0 doing?
:feelingmyself:

Mya>Tank period

She's outsold him. She has awards and nominations.

He's at the bottom of the barrel

TGT is kinda his last hope

And being on a major label these days ain't all it cracked up to be.

:receipts:
thats cute for back in the day
but in 2015
Tank>Mya
he's playing bigger and better gigs
he's making more money, getting AirPlay on Urban AC radio
and selling more albums

He's currently winning
doesn't need to look to the past
:receipts:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: GLOCK on November 23, 2015, 10:21:47 AM
Quote from: SCOTTland on November 23, 2015, 10:19:53 AM
Quote from: G L O C K on November 23, 2015, 08:18:55 AM
He is right tho
Just cuz y'all don't like him doesn't make it right
The R&B artist are shitted on everywhere

They really are. It's annoying and it's even more annoying that people refuse to see that fact.
!!!!!!
I get why the R&B vets are fumed up
They aren't given the respect they deserve
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 10:23:42 AM
Quote from: G L O C K on November 23, 2015, 10:21:47 AM
Quote from: SCOTTland on November 23, 2015, 10:19:53 AM
Quote from: G L O C K on November 23, 2015, 08:18:55 AM
He is right tho
Just cuz y'all don't like him doesn't make it right
The R&B artist are shitted on everywhere

They really are. It's annoying and it's even more annoying that people refuse to see that fact.
!!!!!!
I get why the R&B vets are fumed up
They aren't given the respect they deserve
!!!
and these 2 are trying to speak out but all niggers do is
hate and distract from the points they are making
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Lazarus on November 23, 2015, 10:26:59 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:21:05 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:14:22 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:08:58 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 10:05:50 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:03:42 AM
QuoteIn terms of total album sales, Ginuwine has shifted the most, with 6.98 million, while Tyrese has moved 3.69 million. Tank has sold 1.76 million albums. Ginuwine's best seller is 1999's "100% Ginuwine," with 2 million; while Tyrese's self-titled 1999 debut is his biggest, with 1.3 million. Tank's "Force of Nature," released in 2001, is his largest seller, with 775,000.

I see why Stank stay fuming.  :plzstop:
ssss

so glad Elgin is done with those flops :kii:

Nigga just can't catch a break

:feelinmyself:
hes kinda been outselling Mya
and still doing well enough for a major label to keep him on their roster
how's Planet 0 doing?
:feelingmyself:

Mya>Tank period

She's outsold him. She has awards and nominations.

He's at the bottom of the barrel

TGT is kinda his last hope

And being on a major label these days ain't all it cracked up to be.

:receipts:
thats cute for back in the day
but in 2015
Tank>Mya
he's playing bigger and better gigs
he's making more money, getting AirPlay on Urban AC radio
and selling more albums

He's currently winning
doesn't need to look to the past
:receipts:

That's because he has nothing look back on

He was a flop before he's a flop now

He ain't selling shit

His albums combined barely reached 1 million

His best seller is at 775K let's not be delusional

No awards to his name

:receipts:

Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 10:27:58 AM
ssss
the issue exists, but sTank and DRYese are both narcissists :dead:

the Ledisi/Bey comparison is the best example of how it works against us.  I think even Tamar got the raw end of the deal recently

but these two clowns have been str8 up rNb artists from jump. Don't put owt 1 soul inspired alber and expect to be lauded as the soul king.... no ma'am... sorry guys I just can't agree with how sTank went about this :dead:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:26:59 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:21:05 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:14:22 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:08:58 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 10:05:50 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:03:42 AM
QuoteIn terms of total album sales, Ginuwine has shifted the most, with 6.98 million, while Tyrese has moved 3.69 million. Tank has sold 1.76 million albums. Ginuwine's best seller is 1999's "100% Ginuwine," with 2 million; while Tyrese's self-titled 1999 debut is his biggest, with 1.3 million. Tank's "Force of Nature," released in 2001, is his largest seller, with 775,000.

I see why Stank stay fuming.  :plzstop:
ssss

so glad Elgin is done with those flops :kii:

Nigga just can't catch a break

:feelinmyself:
hes kinda been outselling Mya
and still doing well enough for a major label to keep him on their roster
how's Planet 0 doing?
:feelingmyself:

Mya>Tank period

She's outsold him. She has awards and nominations.

He's at the bottom of the barrel

TGT is kinda his last hope

And being on a major label these days ain't all it cracked up to be.

:receipts:
thats cute for back in the day
but in 2015
Tank>Mya
he's playing bigger and better gigs
he's making more money, getting AirPlay on Urban AC radio
and selling more albums

He's currently winning
doesn't need to look to the past
:receipts:

That's because he has nothing look back on

He was a flop before he's a flop now

He ain't selling shit

His albums combined barely reached 1 million

His best seller is at 775K let's not be delusional

No awards to his name

:receipts:
Hes doesn't NEED to the look back though so it doesn't matter
his LOWEST selling albums sold more than Sugar & Spice
KISS and all Mya's EPs combined
he's winning in the 2015 comparison to Mya
:receipts:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 10:32:09 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 10:27:58 AM
ssss
the issue exists, but sTank and DRYese are both narcissists :dead:

the Ledisi/Bey comparison is the best example of how it works against us.  I think even Tamar got the raw end of the deal recently

but these two clowns have been str8 up rNb artists from jump. Don't put owt 1 soul inspired alber and expect to be lauded as the soul king.... no ma'am... sorry guys I just can't agree with how sTank went about this :dead:
I mean, the point is Tank nor Tyrese have done POP music like Chris or Weaknd. So there is a valid point that there should be a category R&B/ Soul artists who only dabble in those genres
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: yummy on November 23, 2015, 10:32:59 AM
I just don't see the importance or prestige in any of these award shows tbh.

You being able to make a living off of your dream should be validating enough.
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Lazarus on November 23, 2015, 10:33:02 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:26:59 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:21:05 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:14:22 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:08:58 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 10:05:50 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:03:42 AM
QuoteIn terms of total album sales, Ginuwine has shifted the most, with 6.98 million, while Tyrese has moved 3.69 million. Tank has sold 1.76 million albums. Ginuwine's best seller is 1999's "100% Ginuwine," with 2 million; while Tyrese's self-titled 1999 debut is his biggest, with 1.3 million. Tank's "Force of Nature," released in 2001, is his largest seller, with 775,000.

I see why Stank stay fuming.  :plzstop:
ssss

so glad Elgin is done with those flops :kii:

Nigga just can't catch a break

:feelinmyself:
hes kinda been outselling Mya
and still doing well enough for a major label to keep him on their roster
how's Planet 0 doing?
:feelingmyself:

Mya>Tank period

She's outsold him. She has awards and nominations.

He's at the bottom of the barrel

TGT is kinda his last hope

And being on a major label these days ain't all it cracked up to be.

:receipts:
thats cute for back in the day
but in 2015
Tank>Mya
he's playing bigger and better gigs
he's making more money, getting AirPlay on Urban AC radio
and selling more albums

He's currently winning
doesn't need to look to the past
:receipts:

That's because he has nothing look back on

He was a flop before he's a flop now

He ain't selling shit

His albums combined barely reached 1 million

His best seller is at 775K let's not be delusional

No awards to his name

:receipts:
Hes doesn't NEED to the look back though so it doesn't matter
his LOWEST selling albums sold more than Sugar & Spice
KISS and all Mya's EPs combined
he's winning in the 2015 comparison to Mya
:receipts:

Because there's nothing to look back on

Just another run of the mill R&B singer getting passed up for awards, barely going gold, never going platinum

And Mya outsold him period.

She's won altogether.

She's awarded and she's outsold his ass.

:receipts:

Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 10:36:01 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on November 23, 2015, 10:32:59 AM
I just don't see the importance or prestige in any of these award shows tbh.

You being able to make a living off of your dream should be validating enough.
sss
they really don't matter too much anymore

and sTank fuming that they still don't recognize him kinda... well it proves he's flop imo :kii: :kii:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 10:36:56 AM
plus when they sidelined Ledisi and let Bey sing ha mess, stRay defended it

he's no better than sTank and DRYese tbh :kii: :kii:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 10:58:17 AM
Ledisi was never sidelined
she wasn't even CONSIDERED
so there goes that :kii:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 11:02:30 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:33:02 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:26:59 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:21:05 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:14:22 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:08:58 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 10:05:50 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:03:42 AM
QuoteIn terms of total album sales, Ginuwine has shifted the most, with 6.98 million, while Tyrese has moved 3.69 million. Tank has sold 1.76 million albums. Ginuwine's best seller is 1999's "100% Ginuwine," with 2 million; while Tyrese's self-titled 1999 debut is his biggest, with 1.3 million. Tank's "Force of Nature," released in 2001, is his largest seller, with 775,000.

I see why Stank stay fuming.  :plzstop:
ssss

so glad Elgin is done with those flops :kii:

Nigga just can't catch a break

:feelinmyself:
hes kinda been outselling Mya
and still doing well enough for a major label to keep him on their roster
how's Planet 0 doing?
:feelingmyself:

Mya>Tank period

She's outsold him. She has awards and nominations.

He's at the bottom of the barrel

TGT is kinda his last hope

And being on a major label these days ain't all it cracked up to be.

:receipts:
thats cute for back in the day
but in 2015
Tank>Mya
he's playing bigger and better gigs
he's making more money, getting AirPlay on Urban AC radio
and selling more albums

He's currently winning
doesn't need to look to the past
:receipts:

That's because he has nothing look back on

He was a flop before he's a flop now

He ain't selling shit

His albums combined barely reached 1 million

His best seller is at 775K let's not be delusional

No awards to his name

:receipts:
Hes doesn't NEED to the look back though so it doesn't matter
his LOWEST selling albums sold more than Sugar & Spice
KISS and all Mya's EPs combined
he's winning in the 2015 comparison to Mya
:receipts:

Because there's nothing to look back on

Just another run of the mill R&B singer getting passed up for awards, barely going gold, never going platinum

And Mya outsold him period.

She's won altogether.

She's awarded and she's outsold his ass.

:receipts:
But there is something to look FORWARD to
a major label still funding his albums, the ability to go on and tour big venues like theaters and arenas. Making more money through album sales
AND royalties from songwriting
he's not run of the mill cuz most of these niggas just singing stuff other ppl wrote.
Meanwhile I love Mya but she's finished commercially
those awards aren't getting her songs on radio, getting her any gigs
or making her money
Tank wins
:receipts:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Miranda on November 23, 2015, 11:05:04 AM
Awards do matter a LOT, as they write music history. I never witnessed 80's music but I know the Grammys, so the first thing I do to see what was deemed good soul music back then I go to the awards winners list. It shapes how we remember genres.

Many people today think Jazz and Rock are white music.
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 11:06:52 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:58:17 AM
Ledisi was never sidelined
she wasn't even CONSIDERED
so there goes that :kii:
and DRYese wasn't considered either so...
double standards hurt huh :kii:
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 11:08:18 AM
The awards are like the trophies in sports
everyone wants to win the Super Bowl, or the World Series
it represents being "The Best"
and beating out others who are great
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 11:10:56 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 11:06:52 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:58:17 AM
Ledisi was never sidelined
she wasn't even CONSIDERED
so there goes that :kii:
and DRYese wasn't considered either so...
double standards hurt huh :kii:
there are no double standards though :kii:
Tyrese is a soul artist that SHOULD have been at least nominated
Ledisi didn't get picked to do a MAHALIA JACKSON song
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Boomz on November 23, 2015, 11:11:00 AM
Quote from: Mack on November 23, 2015, 11:05:04 AM
Awards do matter a LOT, as they write music history. I never witnessed 80's music but I know the Grammys, so the first thing I do to see what was deemed good soul music back then I go to the awards winners list. It shapes how we remember genres.

Many people today think Jazz and Rock are white music.

This is true.
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Kaeli. on November 23, 2015, 11:11:01 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 10:27:58 AM
ssss
the issue exists, but sTank and DRYese are both narcissists :dead:

the Ledisi/Bey comparison is the best example of how it works against us.  I think even Tamar got the raw end of the deal recently

but these two clowns have been str8 up rNb artists from jump. Don't put owt 1 soul inspired alber and expect to be lauded as the soul king.... no ma'am... sorry guys I just can't agree with how sTank went about this :dead:

Wow I agree
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Lazarus on November 23, 2015, 11:14:53 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 11:02:30 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:33:02 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:26:59 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:21:05 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:14:22 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:08:58 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 10:05:50 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:03:42 AM
QuoteIn terms of total album sales, Ginuwine has shifted the most, with 6.98 million, while Tyrese has moved 3.69 million. Tank has sold 1.76 million albums. Ginuwine's best seller is 1999's "100% Ginuwine," with 2 million; while Tyrese's self-titled 1999 debut is his biggest, with 1.3 million. Tank's "Force of Nature," released in 2001, is his largest seller, with 775,000.

I see why Stank stay fuming.  :plzstop:
ssss

so glad Elgin is done with those flops :kii:

Nigga just can't catch a break

:feelinmyself:
hes kinda been outselling Mya
and still doing well enough for a major label to keep him on their roster
how's Planet 0 doing?
:feelingmyself:

Mya>Tank period

She's outsold him. She has awards and nominations.

He's at the bottom of the barrel

TGT is kinda his last hope

And being on a major label these days ain't all it cracked up to be.

:receipts:
thats cute for back in the day
but in 2015
Tank>Mya
he's playing bigger and better gigs
he's making more money, getting AirPlay on Urban AC radio
and selling more albums

He's currently winning
doesn't need to look to the past
:receipts:

That's because he has nothing look back on

He was a flop before he's a flop now

He ain't selling shit

His albums combined barely reached 1 million

His best seller is at 775K let's not be delusional

No awards to his name

:receipts:
Hes doesn't NEED to the look back though so it doesn't matter
his LOWEST selling albums sold more than Sugar & Spice
KISS and all Mya's EPs combined
he's winning in the 2015 comparison to Mya
:receipts:

Because there's nothing to look back on

Just another run of the mill R&B singer getting passed up for awards, barely going gold, never going platinum

And Mya outsold him period.

She's won altogether.

She's awarded and she's outsold his ass.

:receipts:
But there is something to look FORWARD to
a major label still funding his albums, the ability to go on and tour big venues like theaters and arenas. Making more money through album sales
AND royalties from songwriting
he's not run of the mill cuz most of these niggas just singing stuff other ppl wrote.
Meanwhile I love Mya but she's finished commercially
those awards aren't getting her songs on radio, getting her any gigs
or making her money
Tank wins
:receipts:

vvvvccbbb

Arenas?  :plzstop:

Money through album sales?  :plzstop:

Stank is a flop just another run of the mill R&B singer. He's not seeing no money from album sales. His albums barely sold to begin with. The songs he have written weren't singles and if they were they wasn't hit singles.
He's playing at clubs and theaters too. Stop giving him a lot. There's nothing special about him never was never will be. He's at the bottom of the barrel.

As far as Mya she can be done commercially but at the end of the day she's done more than Tank will ever do or see his career. She's outsold him. She's awarded. She was one of Billboard's Hot 100 Artists. What the fuck has Tank done or ever done in his career that's extraordinary?

Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Miranda on November 23, 2015, 11:15:03 AM
And think about that, in the 90's people like R. Kelly, Jodeci, Mary started winning all the R&B awards with their heavily hip hop influenced music. They overshadowed the Anitas and Luthers of yesteryear. R&B, just like pop goes through different trends. Tyrese is not going with them, Weeknd, Frank Ocean and the new ones now shape the sound. R&B has constantly been changing. What they played in the 60's as R&B is massively different from what we envision as R&B.
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 11:15:38 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 11:10:56 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 11:06:52 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:58:17 AM
Ledisi was never sidelined
she wasn't even CONSIDERED
so there goes that :kii:
and DRYese wasn't considered either so...
double standards hurt huh :kii:
there are no double standards though :kii:
Tyrese is a soul artist that SHOULD have been at least nominated
Ledisi didn't get picked to do a MAHALIA JACKSON song
yep... and they picked a POP singer to do it instead!
BLOOP!
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Miranda on November 23, 2015, 11:16:37 AM
Basically we are getting old guys, R&B has evolved and we have a hard time accepting it.
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Miranda on November 23, 2015, 11:18:29 AM
The fact that Ed Sheeran, Adele & Sam Smith are categorized as pop, while Chris and Weeknd are R&B/Soul further proves that R&B is just a code word for black popular music that is sung.
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 11:23:37 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 11:14:53 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 11:02:30 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:33:02 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:26:59 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:21:05 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:14:22 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:08:58 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 10:05:50 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:03:42 AM
QuoteIn terms of total album sales, Ginuwine has shifted the most, with 6.98 million, while Tyrese has moved 3.69 million. Tank has sold 1.76 million albums. Ginuwine's best seller is 1999's "100% Ginuwine," with 2 million; while Tyrese's self-titled 1999 debut is his biggest, with 1.3 million. Tank's "Force of Nature," released in 2001, is his largest seller, with 775,000.

I see why Stank stay fuming.  :plzstop:
ssss

so glad Elgin is done with those flops :kii:

Nigga just can't catch a break

:feelinmyself:
hes kinda been outselling Mya
and still doing well enough for a major label to keep him on their roster
how's Planet 0 doing?
:feelingmyself:

Mya>Tank period

She's outsold him. She has awards and nominations.

He's at the bottom of the barrel

TGT is kinda his last hope

And being on a major label these days ain't all it cracked up to be.

:receipts:
thats cute for back in the day
but in 2015
Tank>Mya
he's playing bigger and better gigs
he's making more money, getting AirPlay on Urban AC radio
and selling more albums

He's currently winning
doesn't need to look to the past
:receipts:

That's because he has nothing look back on

He was a flop before he's a flop now

He ain't selling shit

His albums combined barely reached 1 million

His best seller is at 775K let's not be delusional

No awards to his name

:receipts:
Hes doesn't NEED to the look back though so it doesn't matter
his LOWEST selling albums sold more than Sugar & Spice
KISS and all Mya's EPs combined
he's winning in the 2015 comparison to Mya
:receipts:

Because there's nothing to look back on

Just another run of the mill R&B singer getting passed up for awards, barely going gold, never going platinum

And Mya outsold him period.

She's won altogether.

She's awarded and she's outsold his ass.

:receipts:
But there is something to look FORWARD to
a major label still funding his albums, the ability to go on and tour big venues like theaters and arenas. Making more money through album sales
AND royalties from songwriting
he's not run of the mill cuz most of these niggas just singing stuff other ppl wrote.
Meanwhile I love Mya but she's finished commercially
those awards aren't getting her songs on radio, getting her any gigs
or making her money
Tank wins
:receipts:

vvvvccbbb

Arenas?  :plzstop:

Money through album sales?  :plzstop:

Stank is a flop just another run of the mill R&B singer. He's not seeing no money from album sales. His albums barely sold to begin with. The songs he have written weren't singles and if they were they wasn't hit singles.
He's playing at clubs and theaters too. Stop giving him a lot. There's nothing special about him never was never will be. He's at the bottom of the barrel.

As far as Mya she can be done commercially but at the end of the day she's done more than Tank will ever do or see his career. She's outsold him. She's awarded. She was one of Billboard's Hot 100 Artists. What the fuck has Tank done or ever done in his career that's extraordinary?
TGT has booked arena dates so yes arenas as well as theaters
and clubs
he is making money from his albums. I'm not giving him a lot
I'm giving him more than Mya which is where he is right now
he may not have done anything huge in his career
but in 2015 he's working on an ALBUM to release
he has a release date, and a single on the radio
based on that he is CURRENTLY doing better than Mya
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 11:25:28 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 11:15:38 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 11:10:56 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 11:06:52 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:58:17 AM
Ledisi was never sidelined
she wasn't even CONSIDERED
so there goes that :kii:
and DRYese wasn't considered either so...
double standards hurt huh :kii:
there are no double standards though :kii:
Tyrese is a soul artist that SHOULD have been at least nominated
Ledisi didn't get picked to do a MAHALIA JACKSON song
yep... and they picked a POP singer to do it instead!
BLOOP!
google Beyonce
she's an R&B singer BLOOP
and MAHALIA is GOSPEL so it's still a different genre
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Lazarus on November 23, 2015, 11:28:53 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 11:23:37 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 11:14:53 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 11:02:30 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:33:02 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:26:59 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:21:05 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:14:22 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:08:58 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 10:05:50 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:03:42 AM
QuoteIn terms of total album sales, Ginuwine has shifted the most, with 6.98 million, while Tyrese has moved 3.69 million. Tank has sold 1.76 million albums. Ginuwine's best seller is 1999's "100% Ginuwine," with 2 million; while Tyrese's self-titled 1999 debut is his biggest, with 1.3 million. Tank's "Force of Nature," released in 2001, is his largest seller, with 775,000.

I see why Stank stay fuming.  :plzstop:
ssss

so glad Elgin is done with those flops :kii:

Nigga just can't catch a break

:feelinmyself:
hes kinda been outselling Mya
and still doing well enough for a major label to keep him on their roster
how's Planet 0 doing?
:feelingmyself:

Mya>Tank period

She's outsold him. She has awards and nominations.

He's at the bottom of the barrel

TGT is kinda his last hope

And being on a major label these days ain't all it cracked up to be.

:receipts:
thats cute for back in the day
but in 2015
Tank>Mya
he's playing bigger and better gigs
he's making more money, getting AirPlay on Urban AC radio
and selling more albums

He's currently winning
doesn't need to look to the past
:receipts:

That's because he has nothing look back on

He was a flop before he's a flop now

He ain't selling shit

His albums combined barely reached 1 million

His best seller is at 775K let's not be delusional

No awards to his name

:receipts:
Hes doesn't NEED to the look back though so it doesn't matter
his LOWEST selling albums sold more than Sugar & Spice
KISS and all Mya's EPs combined
he's winning in the 2015 comparison to Mya
:receipts:

Because there's nothing to look back on

Just another run of the mill R&B singer getting passed up for awards, barely going gold, never going platinum

And Mya outsold him period.

She's won altogether.

She's awarded and she's outsold his ass.

:receipts:
But there is something to look FORWARD to
a major label still funding his albums, the ability to go on and tour big venues like theaters and arenas. Making more money through album sales
AND royalties from songwriting
he's not run of the mill cuz most of these niggas just singing stuff other ppl wrote.
Meanwhile I love Mya but she's finished commercially
those awards aren't getting her songs on radio, getting her any gigs
or making her money
Tank wins
:receipts:

vvvvccbbb

Arenas?  :plzstop:

Money through album sales?  :plzstop:

Stank is a flop just another run of the mill R&B singer. He's not seeing no money from album sales. His albums barely sold to begin with. The songs he have written weren't singles and if they were they wasn't hit singles.
He's playing at clubs and theaters too. Stop giving him a lot. There's nothing special about him never was never will be. He's at the bottom of the barrel.

As far as Mya she can be done commercially but at the end of the day she's done more than Tank will ever do or see his career. She's outsold him. She's awarded. She was one of Billboard's Hot 100 Artists. What the fuck has Tank done or ever done in his career that's extraordinary?
TGT has booked arena dates so yes arenas as well as theaters
and clubs
he is making money from his albums. I'm not giving him a lot
I'm giving him more than Mya which is where he is right now
he may not have done anything huge in his career
but in 2015 he's working on an ALBUM to release
he has a release date, and a single on the radio
based on that he is CURRENTLY doing better than Mya

He's not doing better if the albums he's releasing are going unnoticed and got him on Twitter ranting about him and his friend getting passed up on BET and AMA nominations.


Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RAY7 on November 23, 2015, 11:31:22 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 11:28:53 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 11:23:37 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 11:14:53 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 11:02:30 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:33:02 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:26:59 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:21:05 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:14:22 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:08:58 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 10:05:50 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:03:42 AM
QuoteIn terms of total album sales, Ginuwine has shifted the most, with 6.98 million, while Tyrese has moved 3.69 million. Tank has sold 1.76 million albums. Ginuwine's best seller is 1999's "100% Ginuwine," with 2 million; while Tyrese's self-titled 1999 debut is his biggest, with 1.3 million. Tank's "Force of Nature," released in 2001, is his largest seller, with 775,000.

I see why Stank stay fuming.  :plzstop:
ssss

so glad Elgin is done with those flops :kii:

Nigga just can't catch a break

:feelinmyself:
hes kinda been outselling Mya
and still doing well enough for a major label to keep him on their roster
how's Planet 0 doing?
:feelingmyself:

Mya>Tank period

She's outsold him. She has awards and nominations.

He's at the bottom of the barrel

TGT is kinda his last hope

And being on a major label these days ain't all it cracked up to be.

:receipts:
thats cute for back in the day
but in 2015
Tank>Mya
he's playing bigger and better gigs
he's making more money, getting AirPlay on Urban AC radio
and selling more albums

He's currently winning
doesn't need to look to the past
:receipts:

That's because he has nothing look back on

He was a flop before he's a flop now

He ain't selling shit

His albums combined barely reached 1 million

His best seller is at 775K let's not be delusional

No awards to his name

:receipts:
Hes doesn't NEED to the look back though so it doesn't matter
his LOWEST selling albums sold more than Sugar & Spice
KISS and all Mya's EPs combined
he's winning in the 2015 comparison to Mya
:receipts:

Because there's nothing to look back on

Just another run of the mill R&B singer getting passed up for awards, barely going gold, never going platinum

And Mya outsold him period.

She's won altogether.

She's awarded and she's outsold his ass.

:receipts:
But there is something to look FORWARD to
a major label still funding his albums, the ability to go on and tour big venues like theaters and arenas. Making more money through album sales
AND royalties from songwriting
he's not run of the mill cuz most of these niggas just singing stuff other ppl wrote.
Meanwhile I love Mya but she's finished commercially
those awards aren't getting her songs on radio, getting her any gigs
or making her money
Tank wins
:receipts:

vvvvccbbb

Arenas?  :plzstop:

Money through album sales?  :plzstop:

Stank is a flop just another run of the mill R&B singer. He's not seeing no money from album sales. His albums barely sold to begin with. The songs he have written weren't singles and if they were they wasn't hit singles.
He's playing at clubs and theaters too. Stop giving him a lot. There's nothing special about him never was never will be. He's at the bottom of the barrel.

As far as Mya she can be done commercially but at the end of the day she's done more than Tank will ever do or see his career. She's outsold him. She's awarded. She was one of Billboard's Hot 100 Artists. What the fuck has Tank done or ever done in his career that's extraordinary?
TGT has booked arena dates so yes arenas as well as theaters
and clubs
he is making money from his albums. I'm not giving him a lot
I'm giving him more than Mya which is where he is right now
he may not have done anything huge in his career
but in 2015 he's working on an ALBUM to release
he has a release date, and a single on the radio
based on that he is CURRENTLY doing better than Mya

He's not doing better if the albums he's releasing are going unnoticed got and him on Twitter ranting about him and his friend getting passed up on BET and AMA nominations.
He is doing better because his unnoticed album sold more than Mya's unnoticed album that couldn't even physical release in stores
and him complaining about his friend has nothing to do with HIM
Tyrese sold like 300k though if not mistaken so yea
They are winning
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Lazarus on November 23, 2015, 11:44:05 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 11:31:22 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 11:28:53 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 11:23:37 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 11:14:53 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 11:02:30 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:33:02 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:26:59 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:21:05 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 10:14:22 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:08:58 AM
Quote from: Bentley! on November 23, 2015, 10:05:50 AM
Quote from: FOHWTBS on November 23, 2015, 10:03:42 AM
QuoteIn terms of total album sales, Ginuwine has shifted the most, with 6.98 million, while Tyrese has moved 3.69 million. Tank has sold 1.76 million albums. Ginuwine's best seller is 1999's "100% Ginuwine," with 2 million; while Tyrese's self-titled 1999 debut is his biggest, with 1.3 million. Tank's "Force of Nature," released in 2001, is his largest seller, with 775,000.

I see why Stank stay fuming.  :plzstop:
ssss

so glad Elgin is done with those flops :kii:

Nigga just can't catch a break

:feelinmyself:
hes kinda been outselling Mya
and still doing well enough for a major label to keep him on their roster
how's Planet 0 doing?
:feelingmyself:

Mya>Tank period

She's outsold him. She has awards and nominations.

He's at the bottom of the barrel

TGT is kinda his last hope

And being on a major label these days ain't all it cracked up to be.

:receipts:
thats cute for back in the day
but in 2015
Tank>Mya
he's playing bigger and better gigs
he's making more money, getting AirPlay on Urban AC radio
and selling more albums

He's currently winning
doesn't need to look to the past
:receipts:

That's because he has nothing look back on

He was a flop before he's a flop now

He ain't selling shit

His albums combined barely reached 1 million

His best seller is at 775K let's not be delusional

No awards to his name

:receipts:
Hes doesn't NEED to the look back though so it doesn't matter
his LOWEST selling albums sold more than Sugar & Spice
KISS and all Mya's EPs combined
he's winning in the 2015 comparison to Mya
:receipts:

Because there's nothing to look back on

Just another run of the mill R&B singer getting passed up for awards, barely going gold, never going platinum

And Mya outsold him period.

She's won altogether.

She's awarded and she's outsold his ass.

:receipts:
But there is something to look FORWARD to
a major label still funding his albums, the ability to go on and tour big venues like theaters and arenas. Making more money through album sales
AND royalties from songwriting
he's not run of the mill cuz most of these niggas just singing stuff other ppl wrote.
Meanwhile I love Mya but she's finished commercially
those awards aren't getting her songs on radio, getting her any gigs
or making her money
Tank wins
:receipts:

vvvvccbbb

Arenas?  :plzstop:

Money through album sales?  :plzstop:

Stank is a flop just another run of the mill R&B singer. He's not seeing no money from album sales. His albums barely sold to begin with. The songs he have written weren't singles and if they were they wasn't hit singles.
He's playing at clubs and theaters too. Stop giving him a lot. There's nothing special about him never was never will be. He's at the bottom of the barrel.

As far as Mya she can be done commercially but at the end of the day she's done more than Tank will ever do or see his career. She's outsold him. She's awarded. She was one of Billboard's Hot 100 Artists. What the fuck has Tank done or ever done in his career that's extraordinary?
TGT has booked arena dates so yes arenas as well as theaters
and clubs
he is making money from his albums. I'm not giving him a lot
I'm giving him more than Mya which is where he is right now
he may not have done anything huge in his career
but in 2015 he's working on an ALBUM to release
he has a release date, and a single on the radio
based on that he is CURRENTLY doing better than Mya

He's not doing better if the albums he's releasing are going unnoticed got and him on Twitter ranting about him and his friend getting passed up on BET and AMA nominations.
He is doing better because his unnoticed album sold more than Mya's unnoticed album that couldn't even physical release in stores
and him complaining about his friend has nothing to do with HIM
Tyrese sold like 300k though if not mistaken so yea
They are winning

Do Mya ever promote any of her indie projects tho?

And doesn't matter what year Tank selling albums more than Mya. She's outsold him period nationally and internationally.  She kinda is the ultimate winner. :cheerup:



Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: SUPREME on November 23, 2015, 12:21:50 PM
Damns Bentley was SLAIN in here
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Checkmate Burruss on November 23, 2015, 02:27:27 PM
Quote from: ........ on November 23, 2015, 07:12:45 AM
Quote from: Mack on November 23, 2015, 06:48:27 AM
But then again was he trying to throw shade at Chris Brown, or Trey Songz?

Trey is def r&b, and he is a frequent collaborator of Chris's... So what is he trying to say? Create an extra category for Tyrese?
Did Chris or Trey win or were they nominated last night?
either way they are not SOUL artists so he would be correct
so it's clearly not shade
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: Checkmate Burruss on November 23, 2015, 02:28:59 PM
Quote from: G L O C K on November 23, 2015, 08:18:55 AM
He is right tho
Just cuz y'all don't like him doesn't make it right
The R&B artist are shitted on everywhere

!!!!!
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: RekeRig on November 23, 2015, 02:40:04 PM
Quote from: Mack on November 23, 2015, 06:39:33 AM
He has a point. But that album was not anywhere near the best soul album
of all time lol
he was just quoting Kanye and joking with the "all time" thing
Title: Re: stank on AMAS
Post by: tigernathan on November 23, 2015, 02:45:08 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on November 23, 2015, 09:58:38 AM
It's true though. Tyrese def had the best Soul/R&B album this past year.

Nah.