https://www.instagram.com/p/By2xNBcBxpg/?igshid=ny8n1e53yd78
:-(
Terrible
He's so fucking obsessed
I hope he keeps that same energy with other illegals as well. Especially the Nigerians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m5S91y3fL8
Quote from: blk boy magic on June 18, 2019, 11:56:33 AM
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keep quee out this ignorant, hateful ass mess.
Quote from: Freeruu on June 18, 2019, 11:59:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m5S91y3fL8
I legit can't stand white people
Quote from: Freeruu on June 18, 2019, 11:59:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m5S91y3fL8
BDNDBMDNDMDDKDN
This Gasp as she says it sends me Everytime
he so fucking stupid
I hope he sends that prostitute of a damn wife away too
And why was a British ho talking about American mess anyway
worry about brexit bitch
Quote from: Kaeli. on June 18, 2019, 12:23:48 PM
Quote from: Freeruu on June 18, 2019, 11:59:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m5S91y3fL8
BDNDBMDNDMDDKDN
This Gasp as she says it sends me Everytime
and this lil "heh" right before she said it like she was really about to SPEAK a bit
Yeah if he is gonna do it, it needs to be this way for all illegals not just Hispanics
I'm more concerned about this hearing on reparations in DC on Juneteenth.
Quote from: Kaeli. on June 18, 2019, 12:25:39 PM
And why was a British ho talking about American mess anyway
worry about brexit bitch
I haven't fucked with the Inbred Osbourne's since they insulted Brandy.
Quote from: jtwoeleven on June 18, 2019, 12:42:06 PM
I'm more concerned about this hearing on reparations in DC on Juneteenth.
n
Not happening
Quote from: Ton on June 18, 2019, 12:59:02 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on June 18, 2019, 12:42:06 PM
I'm more concerned about this hearing on reparations in DC on Juneteenth.
n
Not happening
The hearing IS. Do I think the reps there are serious? Definitely not.
No I mean reparations aren't happening.
How do you determine who is black or what black is anyway?
It's just going to be a mess
Quote from: Freeruu on June 18, 2019, 11:59:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m5S91y3fL8
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Kelly really thought she was gonna make a POINT here
Quote from: Ton on June 18, 2019, 01:03:21 PM
No I mean reparations aren't happening.
How do you determine who is black or what black is anyway?
It's just going to be a mess
It's only a mess because people don't wanna make the damn payment. The debt is the debt, period. Even white people can tell the difference between native blacks and blacks who've immigrated here.
It's not that hard. If you're the direct descendant of blacks from several generations in America, you qualify. If your family came here more recently, especially after the 1965 immigration act, you don't qualify.
Quote from: jtwoeleven on June 18, 2019, 01:10:05 PM
Quote from: Ton on June 18, 2019, 01:03:21 PM
No I mean reparations aren't happening.
How do you determine who is black or what black is anyway?
It's just going to be a mess
It's only a mess because people don't wanna make the damn payment. The debt is the debt, period. Even white people can tell the difference between native blacks and blacks who've immigrated here.
It's not that hard. If you're the direct descendant of blacks from several generations in America, you qualify. If your family came here more recently, especially after the 1965 immigration act, you don't qualify.
what about the mixed girls? Are they black?
Or someone who has black parents but looks white
:dead:
I have an African parent and an American parent
Do I qualify? I mean half of my DNA experienced slavery
And who will determine who is black? White people?
I just have a million questions
Quote from: Ton on June 18, 2019, 01:11:50 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on June 18, 2019, 01:10:05 PM
Quote from: Ton on June 18, 2019, 01:03:21 PM
No I mean reparations aren't happening.
How do you determine who is black or what black is anyway?
It's just going to be a mess
It's only a mess because people don't wanna make the damn payment. The debt is the debt, period. Even white people can tell the difference between native blacks and blacks who've immigrated here.
It's not that hard. If you're the direct descendant of blacks from several generations in America, you qualify. If your family came here more recently, especially after the 1965 immigration act, you don't qualify.
what about the mixed girls? Are they black?
Or someone who has black parents but looks white
:dead:
I have an African parent and an American parent
Do I qualify? I mean half of my DNA experienced slavery
And who will determine who is black? White people?
I just have a million questions
Look up your family history. If you can show that you are the direct descendant of slaves, or one who went through at least Jim Crow/segregation then you'd qualify.
Notice I said direct descendant, so it would have to be through your paternal/maternal line, so no distant cousins, uncles, aunts etc. Look at the racial classifications of your parents/grandparents on their birth certificates. If it says negro/colored on them, then that shows you qualify because the institutional barriers placed on your ancestors undeniably impacted your position in America today.
Do you really think this could happen though?
How much money would it be? Where would it come from? How would white people be excluded?
they all probably have at least 1 ancestor that was a slave whose kids passed for full White then the rest of the bloodline is White
Quote from: Ton on June 18, 2019, 01:28:55 PM
Do you really think this could happen though?
I truly do. But hear me when I say this: this battle will by no means be a quick one. But there has to be some people in it for the long haul. I'd imagine some slaves thought they'd never be free, well this is the same thing. Look to the lgbt lobby as an example. They didn't get marriage equality overnight. It took years and years of consistent pressure chipping away at the American conscious. If they can do that, why can't we?
But in order to do that, we will have to be more unified and politically sophisticated than we've shown to be as a collective in recent times.
Quote from: jtwoeleven on June 18, 2019, 01:34:10 PM
Quote from: Ton on June 18, 2019, 01:28:55 PM
Do you really think this could happen though?
I truly do. But hear me when I say this: this battle will by no means be a quick one. But there has to be some people in it for the long haul. I'd imagine some slaves thought they'd never be free, well this is the same thing. Look to the lgbt lobby as an example. They didn't get marriage equality overnight. It took years and years of consistent pressure chipping away at the American conscious. If they can do that, why can't we?
But in order to do that, we will have to be more unified and politically sophisticated than we've shown to be as a collective in recent times.
you're right
I'm inspired :stressed:
Quote from: 89 on June 18, 2019, 01:33:37 PM
How much money would it be? Where would it come from? How would white people be excluded?
they all probably have at least 1 ancestor that was a slave whose kids passed for full White then the rest of the bloodline is White
Bare minimum, it would have to be in the trillions, because if you adjust for inflation, America stole trillions of dollars in slave labor from black Americans. It's one of if not THE biggest contributor to the development of the American capitalist system. The government would be responsible for payment because they approved government sanctioned policies that kept our community as a contagion to building wealth as a collective.
For exclusions and qualifications, see my previous post. I want it to be very clear that this is not redress intended for anyone who wants to spontaneously claim a distant black relative for benefits.
Quote from: Ton on June 18, 2019, 01:39:23 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on June 18, 2019, 01:34:10 PM
Quote from: Ton on June 18, 2019, 01:28:55 PM
Do you really think this could happen though?
I truly do. But hear me when I say this: this battle will by no means be a quick one. But there has to be some people in it for the long haul. I'd imagine some slaves thought they'd never be free, well this is the same thing. Look to the lgbt lobby as an example. They didn't get marriage equality overnight. It took years and years of consistent pressure chipping away at the American conscious. If they can do that, why can't we?
But in order to do that, we will have to be more unified and politically sophisticated than we've shown to be as a collective in recent times.
you're right
I'm inspired :stressed:
Don't be disheartened, I'm still learning a lot on my political education journey. There's a great book on how the government basically excluded blacks en made from building wealth in America with home ownership called the Color of Law by Richard rothstein. It's very informative and eye opening.
On a personal, I recall you said you were half African and half American descendant. Is there a side you identify with more, if you don't mind sharing?
Quote from: jtwoeleven on June 18, 2019, 01:39:35 PM
Quote from: 89 on June 18, 2019, 01:33:37 PM
How much money would it be? Where would it come from? How would white people be excluded?
they all probably have at least 1 ancestor that was a slave whose kids passed for full White then the rest of the bloodline is White
Bare minimum, it would have to be in the trillions, because if you adjust for inflation, America stole trillions of dollars in slave labor from black Americans. It's one of if not THE biggest contributor to the development of the American capitalist system. The government would be responsible for payment because they approved government sanctioned policies that kept our community as a contagion to building wealth as a collective.
For exclusions and qualifications, see my previous post. I want it to be very clear that this is not redress intended for anyone who wants to spontaneously claim a distant black relative for benefits.
You didn't speak on direct ancestors though which is what I mean, not cousins/ uncles and aunts I mean when a White person has a great great 5 times great grandmother that was Black and can prove it then what?
Quote from: blk boy magic on June 18, 2019, 11:56:33 AM
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:plzstop:
Quote from: 89 on June 18, 2019, 01:44:26 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on June 18, 2019, 01:39:35 PM
Quote from: 89 on June 18, 2019, 01:33:37 PM
How much money would it be? Where would it come from? How would white people be excluded?
they all probably have at least 1 ancestor that was a slave whose kids passed for full White then the rest of the bloodline is White
Bare minimum, it would have to be in the trillions, because if you adjust for inflation, America stole trillions of dollars in slave labor from black Americans. It's one of if not THE biggest contributor to the development of the American capitalist system. The government would be responsible for payment because they approved government sanctioned policies that kept our community as a contagion to building wealth as a collective.
For exclusions and qualifications, see my previous post. I want it to be very clear that this is not redress intended for anyone who wants to spontaneously claim a distant black relative for benefits.
You didn't speak on direct ancestors though which is what I mean, not cousins/ uncles and aunts I mean when a White person has a great great 5 times great grandmother that was Black and can prove it then what?
If it's a great grandmother going back five generations, and they can prove that they descended from her with a birth certificate/family tree, etc, then they would qualify. That far back, I'm assuming the ancestor was most likely a slave. The documentation is what's supposed to take out a lot of the guesswork as far as "who's who?" Is concerned.
I'm unsure how many cases there are like that, but it's definitely possible they're out there. I don't know how you would exclude them, unless they didn't identify as black. Then again, how many people identify racially with a distant ancestor?
Quote from: jtwoeleven on June 18, 2019, 01:43:40 PM
Quote from: Ton on June 18, 2019, 01:39:23 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on June 18, 2019, 01:34:10 PM
Quote from: Ton on June 18, 2019, 01:28:55 PM
Do you really think this could happen though?
I truly do. But hear me when I say this: this battle will by no means be a quick one. But there has to be some people in it for the long haul. I'd imagine some slaves thought they'd never be free, well this is the same thing. Look to the lgbt lobby as an example. They didn't get marriage equality overnight. It took years and years of consistent pressure chipping away at the American conscious. If they can do that, why can't we?
But in order to do that, we will have to be more unified and politically sophisticated than we've shown to be as a collective in recent times.
you're right
I'm inspired :stressed:
Don't be disheartened, I'm still learning a lot on my political education journey. There's a great book on how the government basically excluded blacks en made from building wealth in America with home ownership called the Color of Law by Richard rothstein. It's very informative and eye opening.
On a personal, I recall you said you were half African and half American descendant. Is there a side you identify with more, if you don't mind sharing?
I've been reading more after not being in school for a while :dead: thank you
And 'American'. My mom was born here. My dad came here from Kenya at 18 for college but quickly became Americanized. I wasn't really raised to be pro America or pro Kenyan though. My mom can't stand whites or this place, and my dad is kinda like... Just about thriving :kii: America, Kenya, Pluto -- he don't give a fuck. But he maintains we are Kenyans to core
It's probably why I've never had an issue with embracing various cultures. But being black is always my priority.
Quote from: Freeruu on June 18, 2019, 11:59:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m5S91y3fL8
There's more jobs...I got what Kwee was saying here
It's a known fact illegal immigrants are more willing to do the jobs we don't want to.
If he gets rid of all of them who will do them and yes that includes cleaning his toilets
Quote from: Ton on June 18, 2019, 01:53:18 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on June 18, 2019, 01:43:40 PM
Quote from: Ton on June 18, 2019, 01:39:23 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on June 18, 2019, 01:34:10 PM
Quote from: Ton on June 18, 2019, 01:28:55 PM
Do you really think this could happen though?
I truly do. But hear me when I say this: this battle will by no means be a quick one. But there has to be some people in it for the long haul. I'd imagine some slaves thought they'd never be free, well this is the same thing. Look to the lgbt lobby as an example. They didn't get marriage equality overnight. It took years and years of consistent pressure chipping away at the American conscious. If they can do that, why can't we?
But in order to do that, we will have to be more unified and politically sophisticated than we've shown to be as a collective in recent times.
you're right
I'm inspired :stressed:
Don't be disheartened, I'm still learning a lot on my political education journey. There's a great book on how the government basically excluded blacks en made from building wealth in America with home ownership called the Color of Law by Richard rothstein. It's very informative and eye opening.
On a personal, I recall you said you were half African and half American descendant. Is there a side you identify with more, if you don't mind sharing?
I've been reading more after not being in school for a while :dead: thank you
And 'American'. My mom was born here. My dad came here from Kenya at 18 for college but quickly became Americanized. I wasn't really raised to be pro America or pro Kenyan though. My mom can't stand whites or this place, and my dad is kinda like... Just about thriving :kii: America, Kenya, Pluto -- he don't give a fuck. But he maintains we are Kenyans to core
It's probably why I've never had an issue with embracing various cultures. But being black is always my priority.
Oh, so you give a slight Obama tea King? Lol that's cool. But as black Americans, we have a very rich culture here in the states. Being descendants of slaves, we are a very resilient people. We shouldn't be here after all the shit that was done to take us out. It's my opinion that black Americans are the most patriotic citizens because we're STILL HERE, fighting after four centuries. I believe the black struggle in American is the quintessential liberty story. Like, my mind was BLOWN when I learned that the Statue of Liberty was actually built in memory of slaves, and not as some kind of immigrant beacon symbol. I swear reading our history in this country is very enlightening, but also maddening.
get em aht!
Quote from: jtwoeleven on June 18, 2019, 02:03:59 PM
Quote from: Ton on June 18, 2019, 01:53:18 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on June 18, 2019, 01:43:40 PM
Quote from: Ton on June 18, 2019, 01:39:23 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on June 18, 2019, 01:34:10 PM
Quote from: Ton on June 18, 2019, 01:28:55 PM
Do you really think this could happen though?
I truly do. But hear me when I say this: this battle will by no means be a quick one. But there has to be some people in it for the long haul. I'd imagine some slaves thought they'd never be free, well this is the same thing. Look to the lgbt lobby as an example. They didn't get marriage equality overnight. It took years and years of consistent pressure chipping away at the American conscious. If they can do that, why can't we?
But in order to do that, we will have to be more unified and politically sophisticated than we've shown to be as a collective in recent times.
you're right
I'm inspired :stressed:
Don't be disheartened, I'm still learning a lot on my political education journey. There's a great book on how the government basically excluded blacks en made from building wealth in America with home ownership called the Color of Law by Richard rothstein. It's very informative and eye opening.
On a personal, I recall you said you were half African and half American descendant. Is there a side you identify with more, if you don't mind sharing?
I've been reading more after not being in school for a while :dead: thank you
And 'American'. My mom was born here. My dad came here from Kenya at 18 for college but quickly became Americanized. I wasn't really raised to be pro America or pro Kenyan though. My mom can't stand whites or this place, and my dad is kinda like... Just about thriving :kii: America, Kenya, Pluto -- he don't give a fuck. But he maintains we are Kenyans to core
It's probably why I've never had an issue with embracing various cultures. But being black is always my priority.
Oh, so you give a slight Obama tea King? Lol that's cool. But as black Americans, we have a very rich culture here in the states. Being descendants of slaves, we are a very resilient people. We shouldn't be here after all the shit that was done to take us out. It's my opinion that black Americans are the most patriotic citizens because we're STILL HERE, fighting after four centuries. I believe the black struggle in American is the quintessential liberty story. Like, my mind was BLOWN when I learned that the Statue of Liberty was actually built in memory of slaves, and not as some kind of immigrant beacon symbol. I swear reading our history in this country is very enlightening, but also maddening.
bxbxbxbbxbxbxb
Well I don't really know who Obama is, on an personal level. He has to say/do/portray certain things because hes in politics :dead:
And I know, I love our culture so much. I grew up going to FAMU for most of my life so black is what I've really only known, even with the White/Asian/Hispanic friends I've had.
I don't have children but if I ever did, I'd want them to experience everything it means to be black. I do the shit to my nephews now :dead: :kii: :kii:
The AA experience is... Something else :dead: :ohwow:
No one is above the law
He's so fucking vile.
But I want this one bitch giving me problems the other day fucking DEPORTED
Quote from: Darius. on June 18, 2019, 02:19:59 PM
He's so fucking vile.
But I wont this one bitch giving me problems the other day fucking DEPORTED
me neither!
:bvy:
I dont know why yall even care.
Didnt a great number of the Sazon gørls vote for him? Let em marinate in their decision :letsmessfag: