now SEEEE
:thatssowendy: :thatssowendy: :thatssowendy: :thatssowendy:
Bitch I have chills
Can't stand slave messes but this looks good
I know she's gonna sing a nasty solo too
ommmmf :gorlonfire:
Cynthia wants her damn OSCAR ACKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Cynthia wants her damn OSCAR ACKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
BITTTCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
She's fucking ready
Quote from: Kalifornia on July 23, 2019, 11:21:34 AM
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Can't stand slave messes but this looks good
And this one doesn't look like it has a White savior :ohwow:
:stressed:
Damn
The last scene looks iconic
:gorlonfire:
To freedom!!!!!
I hate slave movies As everyone else but a movie about Harriet is long over due.
I can't wait to see this, you already know she'll be nominated for an Oscar and probably win because she plays a slave escaping to freedom.
Why do y'all hate slave movies? I think they serve an important purpose, but that depends a lot on who's making it, and how it's handled.
There's a lot of historical misinformation floating around, especially about American slavery. There are too many voices out there who try to minimize its impact, or flat out lie about historical events, like the civil war for example.
Yeah I like slave movies
Also...everyone doesn't seem so thrilled with her casting...she's a bit problematic apparently...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.essence.com/v/s/www.essence.com/amp/entertainment/cynthia-erivo-black-british-actress-harriet-tubman-movie/%3famp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%253D#ampf=
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 12:53:40 PM
Also...everyone doesn't seem so thrilled with her casting...she's a bit problematic apparently...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.essence.com/v/s/www.essence.com/amp/entertainment/cynthia-erivo-black-british-actress-harriet-tubman-movie/%3famp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%253D#ampf=
I don't see the issue with what she said?
Unless I've missed something
Finally !!! It's crazy the greatest person in the United States diaspora is just getting a movie chronicling her life. It looks amazing though I love seeing them with those guns shoot them yts down!
:scrumptious:
Quote from: FlowerBomb on July 23, 2019, 12:56:47 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 12:53:40 PM
Also...everyone doesn't seem so thrilled with her casting...she's a bit problematic apparently...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.essence.com/v/s/www.essence.com/amp/entertainment/cynthia-erivo-black-british-actress-harriet-tubman-movie/%3famp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%253D#ampf=
I don't see the issue with what she said?
Unless I've missed something
From the looks of it, Cynthia doesn't seem to view African Americans (native blacks) as a unique, specific group of black people. When some pushed back on her casting, she side stepped the issue and kinda veered off into African Americans being pushed into this "flat blackness". Yet she has no problem identifying herself specifically with her African or British identity.
Quote from: FlowerBomb on July 23, 2019, 12:56:47 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 12:53:40 PM
Also...everyone doesn't seem so thrilled with her casting...she's a bit problematic apparently...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.essence.com/v/s/www.essence.com/amp/entertainment/cynthia-erivo-black-british-actress-harriet-tubman-movie/%3famp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%253D#ampf=
I don't see the issue with what she said?
Unless I've missed something
!
She literally said she was black woman
So what's the issue? :uhh:
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Quote from: FlowerBomb on July 23, 2019, 12:56:47 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 12:53:40 PM
Also...everyone doesn't seem so thrilled with her casting...she's a bit problematic apparently...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.essence.com/v/s/www.essence.com/amp/entertainment/cynthia-erivo-black-british-actress-harriet-tubman-movie/%3famp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%253D#ampf=
I don't see the issue with what she said?
Unless I've missed something
From the looks of it, Cynthia doesn't seem to view African Americans (native blacks) as a unique, specific group of black people. When some pushed back on her casting, she side stepped the issue and kinda veered off into African Americans being pushed into this "flat blackness". Yet she has no problem identifying herself specifically with her African or British identity.
I think people are reading too much into it, I think she's saying no one would no she wasn't AA unless she opened her mouth and that this role wasn't handed to her and she had to work hard for it.
Besides if we're going to play that game we're gonna have to do a DNA test on every black actor before they play a damn biopic :plzstop:
This looks good and they didn't cast an ugly Harriet!
Samuel started that mess, :dead:
Entitled self
British actors need to focus on portraying roles of British people. Flat out.
and they do :uhh:
white people need to stay outta black people's business
British people also need to stop minding American business.
Quote from: FlowerBomb on July 23, 2019, 01:06:28 PM
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Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 12:53:40 PM
Also...everyone doesn't seem so thrilled with her casting...she's a bit problematic apparently...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.essence.com/v/s/www.essence.com/amp/entertainment/cynthia-erivo-black-british-actress-harriet-tubman-movie/%3famp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%253D#ampf=
I don't see the issue with what she said?
Unless I've missed something
From the looks of it, Cynthia doesn't seem to view African Americans (native blacks) as a unique, specific group of black people. When some pushed back on her casting, she side stepped the issue and kinda veered off into African Americans being pushed into this "flat blackness". Yet she has no problem identifying herself specifically with her African or British identity.
I think people are reading too much into it, I think she's saying no one would no she wasn't AA unless she opened her mouth and that this role wasn't handed to her and she had to work hard for it.
Besides if we're going to play that game we're gonna have to do a DNA test on every black actor before they play a damn biopic :plzstop:
I don't think so. I wouldn't fault people for wanting to see someone who shares a similar background to them in a major historical role. We don't have to guess that she's not African American because she has already made that known by now, and her response is telling.
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Quote from: FlowerBomb on July 23, 2019, 12:56:47 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 12:53:40 PM
Also...everyone doesn't seem so thrilled with her casting...she's a bit problematic apparently...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.essence.com/v/s/www.essence.com/amp/entertainment/cynthia-erivo-black-british-actress-harriet-tubman-movie/%3famp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%253D#ampf=
I don't see the issue with what she said?
Unless I've missed something
From the looks of it, Cynthia doesn't seem to view African Americans (native blacks) as a unique, specific group of black people. When some pushed back on her casting, she side stepped the issue and kinda veered off into African Americans being pushed into this "flat blackness". Yet she has no problem identifying herself specifically with her African or British identity.
I just vomited in my mouth a bit.
:udontlookok:
g
but does she NEED to be though?
Black actors are the least employed, why does everything to be divided again :ermm:
Fuck that. Divide roles by region too.
anyway can't wait to see this oscar winning mess!
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 12:53:40 PM
Also...everyone doesn't seem so thrilled with her casting...she's a bit problematic apparently...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.essence.com/v/s/www.essence.com/amp/entertainment/cynthia-erivo-black-british-actress-harriet-tubman-movie/%3famp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%253D#ampf=
Yeah I don't like that. Well the fact she is British and this is an American tale. There are plenty of African Americans they could have chosen for this role imo
Blacks should play blacks
this silly ass discussion about where blacks are from :omf:
gosh they did a whole number on us
Also Queen from 911 played Harriet on a whole series
folks be bitching about the wrong shit
Quote from: FlowerBomb on July 23, 2019, 01:14:33 PM
g
but does she NEED to be though?
Black actors are the least employed, why does everything to be divided again :ermm:
Unless you're gonna say "oh well, we're all of African descent, and we should be able to play any black/African role". It's not a question of her ability to do it, that's not being called into question. But as far as her background goes, is she the best fit for this kind of historic role? IMO, no she's not, especially given her comments in regards to African Americans.
And frankly, I agree with Samuel Jackson.
Quote from: EXPENSIVE DICK on July 23, 2019, 01:16:41 PM
Blacks should play blacks
this silly ass discussion about where blacks are from :omf:
gosh they did a whole number on us
!!!!
divide and conquer at it's finest :dead:
why are we souring the mess with this stupid discussion
and some of yall don't care for BLACK period, save the mess dyke and coon.
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Quote from: FlowerBomb on July 23, 2019, 01:14:33 PM
g
but does she NEED to be though?
Black actors are the least employed, why does everything to be divided again :ermm:
Unless you're gonna say "oh well, we're all of African descent, and we should be able to play any black/African role". It's not a question of her ability to do it, that's not being called into question. But as far as her background goes, is she the best fit for this kind of historic role? IMO, no she's not, especially given her comments in regards to African Americans.
And frankly, I agree with Samuel Jackson.
then don't watch.
period :uhh: :dead:
I'm just here to disagree with Jayda tbh. Whatever he says is fucking wrong.
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 01:17:49 PM
Quote from: FlowerBomb on July 23, 2019, 01:14:33 PM
g
but does she NEED to be though?
Black actors are the least employed, why does everything to be divided again :ermm:
Unless you're gonna say "oh well, we're all of African descent, and we should be able to play any black/African role". It's not a question of her ability to do it, that's not being called into question. But as far as her background goes, is she the best fit for this kind of historic role? IMO, no she's not, especially given her comments in regards to African Americans.
And frankly, I agree with Samuel Jackson.
The best fit for the role is the person who did best in the audition.
Y'all who say it's dumb to criticize this, or who say no one has a right to complain, I need y'all to be consistent. Let's keep that same energy across the board, because I distinctly remember the Africans (South Africans?) who were NOT happy at all about Beyoncé just being rumored to play Sara Baartman. So if we're being unreasonable for calling out Cynthia, y'all need to have the same discontent for those who brought the same criticisms.
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 01:24:26 PM
Y'all who say it's dumb to criticize this, or who say no one has a right to complain, I need y'all to be consistent. Let's keep that same energy across the board, because I distinctly remember the Africans (South Africans?) who were NOT happy at all about Beyoncé just being rumored to play Sara Baartman. So if we're being unreasonable for calling out Cynthia, y'all need to have the same discontent for those who brought the same criticisms.
Then take that up with them S African bitches on Lipstick Alley. We said we're happy for Cynthia and that's just kinda that.
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Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 01:24:26 PM
Y'all who say it's dumb to criticize this, or who say no one has a right to complain, I need y'all to be consistent. Let's keep that same energy across the board, because I distinctly remember the Africans (South Africans?) who were NOT happy at all about Beyoncé just being rumored to play Sara Baartman. So if we're being unreasonable for calling out Cynthia, y'all need to have the same discontent for those who brought the same criticisms.
Then take that up with them S African bitches on Lipstick Alley. We said we're happy for Cynthia and that's jsut kinda that.
No, ain't no that's that on nothing. "Take it up with them". You're basically providing them cover, basically saying they weren't wrong or unreasonable in their criticisms. Nice way to dodge the issue.
(https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/cynthia-erivo-hot-list-list.jpg)
This looks...cheap.
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Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 01:24:26 PM
Y'all who say it's dumb to criticize this, or who say no one has a right to complain, I need y'all to be consistent. Let's keep that same energy across the board, because I distinctly remember the Africans (South Africans?) who were NOT happy at all about Beyoncé just being rumored to play Sara Baartman. So if we're being unreasonable for calling out Cynthia, y'all need to have the same discontent for those who brought the same criticisms.
Then take that up with them S African bitches on Lipstick Alley. We said we're happy for Cynthia and that's jsut kinda that.
No, ain't no that's that on nothing. "Take it up with them". You're basically providing them cover, basically saying they weren't wrong or unreasonable in their criticisms. Nice way to dodge the issue.
No, i'm telling there's no issue to dodge. She's playing Harriet because she did the best in audition process. Don't like it? That's fine. Don't watch it when it comes out :plzstop:
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Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 01:28:21 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on July 23, 2019, 01:26:09 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 01:24:26 PM
Y'all who say it's dumb to criticize this, or who say no one has a right to complain, I need y'all to be consistent. Let's keep that same energy across the board, because I distinctly remember the Africans (South Africans?) who were NOT happy at all about Beyoncé just being rumored to play Sara Baartman. So if we're being unreasonable for calling out Cynthia, y'all need to have the same discontent for those who brought the same criticisms.
Then take that up with them S African bitches on Lipstick Alley. We said we're happy for Cynthia and that's jsut kinda that.
No, ain't no that's that on nothing. "Take it up with them". You're basically providing them cover, basically saying they weren't wrong or unreasonable in their criticisms. Nice way to dodge the issue.
No, i'm telling there's no issue to dodge. She's playing Harriet because she did the best in audition process. Don't like it? That's fine. Don't watch it when it comes out :plzstop:
If there's no issue to dodge, then why are you taking issue with me having issue with her casting? Furthermore, how do you even know she was the best one in the audition process? Were you affiliated with the audition process for this?
:dead:
The only thing I don't like is her accent it's not very good. But as long as the person playing a black role is black I don't have many complaints.
This looks very...low budget
Quote from: BowDown on July 23, 2019, 01:15:31 PM
Fuck that. Divide roles by region too.
:kii: :kii: :kii:
Whew! This looks iconic.
Guys this is stupid. Idgaf what kinda black someone is when portraying a role. Black is fckn black. Are we gonna require actors to be from the same city and state of the person they're portraying next? :dead:
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 01:24:26 PM
Y'all who say it's dumb to criticize this, or who say no one has a right to complain, I need y'all to be consistent. Let's keep that same energy across the board, because I distinctly remember the Africans (South Africans?) who were NOT happy at all about Beyoncé just being rumored to play Sara Baartman. So if we're being unreasonable for calling out Cynthia, y'all need to have the same discontent for those who brought the same criticisms.
Mess. I dont like a pick n choose mess the girls do on here
Lemme click play on the trailer
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Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 12:53:40 PM
Also...everyone doesn't seem so thrilled with her casting...she's a bit problematic apparently...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.essence.com/v/s/www.essence.com/amp/entertainment/cynthia-erivo-black-british-actress-harriet-tubman-movie/%3famp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%253D#ampf=
Yeah I don't like that. Well the fact she is British and this is an American tale. There are plenty of African Americans they could have chosen for this role imo
You always say such attackable shit, ugh
Quote from: EXPENSIVE DICK on July 23, 2019, 01:16:41 PM
Blacks should play blacks
this silly ass discussion about where blacks are from :omf:
gosh they did a whole number on us
NIGGA! :dead:
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Quote from: Troye Stormborn on July 23, 2019, 01:16:13 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 12:53:40 PM
Also...everyone doesn't seem so thrilled with her casting...she's a bit problematic apparently...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.essence.com/v/s/www.essence.com/amp/entertainment/cynthia-erivo-black-british-actress-harriet-tubman-movie/%3famp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%253D#ampf=
Yeah I don't like that. Well the fact she is British and this is an American tale. There are plenty of African Americans they could have chosen for this role imo
You always say such attackable shit, ugh
Zzzzzzzzddddssss
The comments from people saying her casting isn't problematic at all are very telling. They remind me of that thread a while back, or comments that said Black Americans don't have a culture, and that we stole from Caribbean's. Y'all believe that too?
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 01:24:26 PM
Y'all who say it's dumb to criticize this, or who say no one has a right to complain, I need y'all to be consistent. Let's keep that same energy across the board, because I distinctly remember the Africans (South Africans?) who were NOT happy at all about Beyoncé just being rumored to play Sara Baartman. So if we're being unreasonable for calling out Cynthia, y'all need to have the same discontent for those who brought the same criticisms.
Beyonce shouldn't be playing anyone, non acting ass. This bitch sucks as a cartoon. That's reason enough to be in an uproar over her
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 01:47:13 PM
The comments from people saying her casting isn't problematic at all are very telling. They remind me of that thread a while back, or comments that said Black Americans don't have a culture, and that we stole from Caribbean's. Y'all believe that too?
you are fucking SPEAKING
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 01:47:13 PM
The comments from people saying her casting isn't problematic at all are very telling. They remind me of that thread a while back, or comments that said Black Americans don't have a culture, and that we stole from Caribbean's. Y'all believe that too?
Girl ONE person said that :uhh: :dead:
Jdjdjdjdj at beyonce playing Sarah baartman
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 23, 2019, 01:47:15 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 01:24:26 PM
Y'all who say it's dumb to criticize this, or who say no one has a right to complain, I need y'all to be consistent. Let's keep that same energy across the board, because I distinctly remember the Africans (South Africans?) who were NOT happy at all about Beyoncé just being rumored to play Sara Baartman. So if we're being unreasonable for calling out Cynthia, y'all need to have the same discontent for those who brought the same criticisms.
Beyonce shouldn't be playing anyone, non acting ass. This bitch sucks as a cartoon. That's reason enough to be in an uproar over her
But see you've already contradicted yourself by quoting that post above that said "black is black". If that's true, stay true to that. If black is black, then that means there's no difference in Beyoncé from Texas, to someone from Kenya. It's not about her acting ability, she's black. So, you can't disqualify her ability to play Sara Baartman by virtue of her blackness.
Quote from: FlowerBomb on July 23, 2019, 01:49:56 PM
Jdjdjdjdj at beyonce playing Sarah baartman
im giggling :kii:
Wtf is going on
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 01:50:17 PM
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Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 01:24:26 PM
Y'all who say it's dumb to criticize this, or who say no one has a right to complain, I need y'all to be consistent. Let's keep that same energy across the board, because I distinctly remember the Africans (South Africans?) who were NOT happy at all about Beyoncé just being rumored to play Sara Baartman. So if we're being unreasonable for calling out Cynthia, y'all need to have the same discontent for those who brought the same criticisms.
Beyonce shouldn't be playing anyone, non acting ass. This bitch sucks as a cartoon. That's reason enough to be in an uproar over her
But see you've already contradicted yourself by quoting that post above that said "black is black". If that's true, stay true to that. If black is black, then that means there's no difference in Beyoncé from Texas, to someone from Kenya. It's not about her acting ability, she's black. So, you can't disqualify her ability to play Sara Baartman by virtue of her blackness.
:ohwow:
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Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 01:24:26 PM
Y'all who say it's dumb to criticize this, or who say no one has a right to complain, I need y'all to be consistent. Let's keep that same energy across the board, because I distinctly remember the Africans (South Africans?) who were NOT happy at all about Beyoncé just being rumored to play Sara Baartman. So if we're being unreasonable for calling out Cynthia, y'all need to have the same discontent for those who brought the same criticisms.
Beyonce shouldn't be playing anyone, non acting ass. This bitch sucks as a cartoon. That's reason enough to be in an uproar over her
But see you've already contradicted yourself by quoting that post above that said "black is black". If that's true, stay true to that. If black is black, then that means there's no difference in Beyoncé from Texas, to someone from Kenya. It's not about her acting ability, she's black. So, you can't disqualify her ability to play Sara Baartman by virtue of her blackness.
Are u slow? Idgaf where a bitch is from. Beyonce ain't the best bitch for ANY role. That bitch could've been born in the same place, at the same time, and on the same damn day. She ain't the girl for the damn job
Just watched the trailer. Gorl.
Yall really going up for this :udontlookok:
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Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 01:24:26 PM
Y'all who say it's dumb to criticize this, or who say no one has a right to complain, I need y'all to be consistent. Let's keep that same energy across the board, because I distinctly remember the Africans (South Africans?) who were NOT happy at all about Beyoncé just being rumored to play Sara Baartman. So if we're being unreasonable for calling out Cynthia, y'all need to have the same discontent for those who brought the same criticisms.
Beyonce shouldn't be playing anyone, non acting ass. This bitch sucks as a cartoon. That's reason enough to be in an uproar over her
But see you've already contradicted yourself by quoting that post above that said "black is black". If that's true, stay true to that. If black is black, then that means there's no difference in Beyoncé from Texas, to someone from Kenya. It's not about her acting ability, she's black. So, you can't disqualify her ability to play Sara Baartman by virtue of her blackness.
Are u slow? Idgaf where a bitch is from. Beyonce ain't the best bitch for ANY role. That bitch could've been born in the same place, at the same time, and on the same damn day. She ain't the girl for the damn job
Zzzxfxzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 23, 2019, 01:54:29 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 01:50:17 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 23, 2019, 01:47:15 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 01:24:26 PM
Y'all who say it's dumb to criticize this, or who say no one has a right to complain, I need y'all to be consistent. Let's keep that same energy across the board, because I distinctly remember the Africans (South Africans?) who were NOT happy at all about Beyoncé just being rumored to play Sara Baartman. So if we're being unreasonable for calling out Cynthia, y'all need to have the same discontent for those who brought the same criticisms.
Beyonce shouldn't be playing anyone, non acting ass. This bitch sucks as a cartoon. That's reason enough to be in an uproar over her
But see you've already contradicted yourself by quoting that post above that said "black is black". If that's true, stay true to that. If black is black, then that means there's no difference in Beyoncé from Texas, to someone from Kenya. It's not about her acting ability, she's black. So, you can't disqualify her ability to play Sara Baartman by virtue of her blackness.
Are u slow? Idgaf where a bitch is from. Beyonce ain't the best bitch for ANY role. That bitch could've been born in the same place, at the same time, and on the same damn day. She ain't the girl for the damn job
Think HIGHER of yourself, I know you're better than personal jabs. For the record, this topic isn't about where anyone is from, it's about heritage, it's about lineage. The crux of what I'm saying is this: It is not unreasonable for South Africans to want to see another South African portray a famous South African on film. By the same token, it is not unreasonable for an African America to want to see a fellow African American portray a famous African American on film.
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Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 01:24:26 PM
Y'all who say it's dumb to criticize this, or who say no one has a right to complain, I need y'all to be consistent. Let's keep that same energy across the board, because I distinctly remember the Africans (South Africans?) who were NOT happy at all about Beyoncé just being rumored to play Sara Baartman. So if we're being unreasonable for calling out Cynthia, y'all need to have the same discontent for those who brought the same criticisms.
Beyonce shouldn't be playing anyone, non acting ass. This bitch sucks as a cartoon. That's reason enough to be in an uproar over her
But see you've already contradicted yourself by quoting that post above that said "black is black". If that's true, stay true to that. If black is black, then that means there's no difference in Beyoncé from Texas, to someone from Kenya. It's not about her acting ability, she's black. So, you can't disqualify her ability to play Sara Baartman by virtue of her blackness.
Are u slow? Idgaf where a bitch is from. Beyonce ain't the best bitch for ANY role. That bitch could've been born in the same place, at the same time, and on the same damn day. She ain't the girl for the damn job
Think HIGHER of yourself, I know you're better than personal jabs.
he doesn't and he isn't
Looks great!!!!
Viola Davis would slay this role, I was really looking forward to her adaptation.
Nah i dont wanna see viola in this
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Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 23, 2019, 01:47:15 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 01:24:26 PM
Y'all who say it's dumb to criticize this, or who say no one has a right to complain, I need y'all to be consistent. Let's keep that same energy across the board, because I distinctly remember the Africans (South Africans?) who were NOT happy at all about Beyoncé just being rumored to play Sara Baartman. So if we're being unreasonable for calling out Cynthia, y'all need to have the same discontent for those who brought the same criticisms.
Beyonce shouldn't be playing anyone, non acting ass. This bitch sucks as a cartoon. That's reason enough to be in an uproar over her
But see you've already contradicted yourself by quoting that post above that said "black is black". If that's true, stay true to that. If black is black, then that means there's no difference in Beyoncé from Texas, to someone from Kenya. It's not about her acting ability, she's black. So, you can't disqualify her ability to play Sara Baartman by virtue of her blackness.
Are u slow? Idgaf where a bitch is from. Beyonce ain't the best bitch for ANY role. That bitch could've been born in the same place, at the same time, and on the same damn day. She ain't the girl for the damn job
Think HIGHER of yourself, I know you're better than personal jabs. For the record, this topic isn't about where anyone is from, it's about heritage, it's about lineage. The crux of what I'm saying is this: It is not unreasonable for South Africans to want to see another South African portray a famous South African on film. By the same token, it is not unreasonable for an African America to want to see a fellow African American portray a famous African American on film.
Drag that fag
Quote from: Murrah on July 23, 2019, 02:17:01 PM
Viola Davis would slay this role, I was really looking forward to her adaptation.
shes doing the Harriet tv show for HBO
Not a Harriet Tubman tv show
:omf: :omf: :omf: :omf: :omf:
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 12:50:15 PM
Why do y'all hate slave movies? I think they serve an important purpose, but that depends a lot on who's making it, and how it's handled.
There's a lot of historical misinformation floating around, especially about American slavery. There are too many voices out there who try to minimize its impact, or flat out lie about historical events, like the civil war for example.
I agree, but I want more diverse roles for Black folks. I'm tired of always seeing us as slaves & maids, or in comedy & hood flicks.
Thank gawd we are finally getting more variety in the big roles for Black actors
Quote from: BowDown on July 23, 2019, 02:52:16 PM
Not a Harriet Tubman tv show
:omf: :omf: :omf: :omf: :omf:
jesus....
Quote from: Kalifornia on July 23, 2019, 02:52:42 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 12:50:15 PM
Why do y'all hate slave movies? I think they serve an important purpose, but that depends a lot on who's making it, and how it's handled.
There's a lot of historical misinformation floating around, especially about American slavery. There are too many voices out there who try to minimize its impact, or flat out lie about historical events, like the civil war for example.
I agree, but I want more diverse roles for Black folks. I'm tired of always seeing us as slaves & maids, or in comedy & hood flicks.
Thank gawd we are finally getting more variety in the big roles for Black actors
Did you go see Taraji's "Proud Mary" ? Or whatever that movie was that was like SALT
Quote from: EXPENSIVE DICK on July 23, 2019, 01:16:41 PM
Blacks should play blacks
this silly ass discussion about where blacks are from :omf:
gosh they did a whole number on us
!!!
A divide & conquer mess, and we play right into it.
Quote from: FlowerBomb on July 23, 2019, 01:18:13 PM
Quote from: EXPENSIVE DICK on July 23, 2019, 01:16:41 PM
Blacks should play blacks
this silly ass discussion about where blacks are from :omf:
gosh they did a whole number on us
!!!!
divide and conquer at it's finest :dead:
why are we souring the mess with this stupid discussion
and some of yall don't care for BLACK period, save the mess dyke and coon.
!!!
That's exactly what I said.
Quote from: Kalifornia on July 23, 2019, 02:55:44 PM
Quote from: EXPENSIVE DICK on July 23, 2019, 01:16:41 PM
Blacks should play blacks
this silly ass discussion about where blacks are from :omf:
gosh they did a whole number on us
!!!
A divide & conquer mess, and we play right into it.
Quote from: Kalifornia on July 23, 2019, 02:56:34 PM
Quote from: FlowerBomb on July 23, 2019, 01:18:13 PM
Quote from: EXPENSIVE DICK on July 23, 2019, 01:16:41 PM
Blacks should play blacks
this silly ass discussion about where blacks are from :omf:
gosh they did a whole number on us
!!!!
divide and conquer at it's finest :dead:
why are we souring the mess with this stupid discussion
and some of yall don't care for BLACK period, save the mess dyke and coon.
!!!
That's exactly what I said.
CNCBGBBFFBDFFFFFFFFFFC
Quote from: FlowerBomb on July 23, 2019, 01:49:56 PM
Jdjdjdjdj at beyonce playing Sarah baartman
sbnngbnnnnnn :plzstop:
Quote from: BAPH. on July 23, 2019, 02:55:34 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia on July 23, 2019, 02:52:42 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 12:50:15 PM
Why do y'all hate slave movies? I think they serve an important purpose, but that depends a lot on who's making it, and how it's handled.
There's a lot of historical misinformation floating around, especially about American slavery. There are too many voices out there who try to minimize its impact, or flat out lie about historical events, like the civil war for example.
I agree, but I want more diverse roles for Black folks. I'm tired of always seeing us as slaves & maids, or in comedy & hood flicks.
Thank gawd we are finally getting more variety in the big roles for Black actors
Did you go see Taraji's "Proud Mary" ? Or whatever that movie was that was like SALT
I saw it when it came out on Prime
Cynthia Erivo 😍 i love her so much. I hope she does a soundtrack for it
Looks like a TV movie though :dead: and Janelle monae is a solid actress but this role seems modern and out of place. Idk what it is but I'm not using
The "tired of slave movies" thing is always a kii because I'm sure most people can name maybe five slavery themed films they've seen in their entire lifetime, but niggas act like like Hollywood is popping one out every year like the MCU.
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Quote from: Kalifornia on July 23, 2019, 03:05:54 PM
Quote from: BAPH. on July 23, 2019, 02:55:34 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia on July 23, 2019, 02:52:42 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 23, 2019, 12:50:15 PM
Why do y'all hate slave movies? I think they serve an important purpose, but that depends a lot on who's making it, and how it's handled.
There's a lot of historical misinformation floating around, especially about American slavery. There are too many voices out there who try to minimize its impact, or flat out lie about historical events, like the civil war for example.
I agree, but I want more diverse roles for Black folks. I'm tired of always seeing us as slaves & maids, or in comedy & hood flicks.
Thank gawd we are finally getting more variety in the big roles for Black actors
Did you go see Taraji's "Proud Mary" ? Or whatever that movie was that was like SALT
I saw it when it came out on Prime
I went and saw it in theaters. I'm better than u
Janelle gave me what i needed here tbh and I love what i saw from her
They gonna run the slave mess into the ground huh
But this sounds iconic
Quote from: animmai. on July 23, 2019, 04:00:43 PM
The "tired of slave movies" thing is always a kii because I'm sure most people can name maybe five slavery themed films they've seen in their entire lifetime, but niggas act like like Hollywood is popping one out every year like the MCU.
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Not true. And it's not just about the movie being a "slave movie". It's about black people being in these roles of servitude, so even if the movie isn't a "slave movie" it still feels like watching some shit like that because it's very much that same lowly ass, depressing vibe
12 years a slave
The help
The butler
Selma
Birth of a nation
Django
Like :dead:
Even sumn like Fences and When they see us because it's still watching black people on some struggle shit. It's ALL the same kinda shit to me
Quote from: animmai. on July 23, 2019, 04:00:43 PM
The "tired of slave movies" thing is always a kii because I'm sure most people can name maybe five slavery themed films they've seen in their entire lifetime, but niggas act like like Hollywood is popping one out every year like the MCU.
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I get what you're saying and its kinda like we want want to keep Slavery under wraps and in the past. Kinda like how whites do.
WHY YA GOTTA BRING UP SLAVERY THAT WAS SO LONG AGO.
:bvy: but i think it just pissed most of us off. We hate to see it
Quote from: animmai. on July 23, 2019, 04:00:43 PM
The "tired of slave movies" thing is always a kii because I'm sure most people can name maybe five slavery themed films they've seen in their entire lifetime, but niggas act like like Hollywood is popping one out every year like the MCU.
(https://i.ibb.co/cvcgpbJ/mU0h4Pd.gif)
!!!!!
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Quote from: BAPH. on July 23, 2019, 04:12:44 PM
Quote from: animmai. on July 23, 2019, 04:00:43 PM
The "tired of slave movies" thing is always a kii because I'm sure most people can name maybe five slavery themed films they've seen in their entire lifetime, but niggas act like like Hollywood is popping one out every year like the MCU.
(https://i.ibb.co/cvcgpbJ/mU0h4Pd.gif)
I get what you're saying and its kinda like we want want to keep Slavery under wraps and in the past. Kinda like how whites do.
WHY YA GOTTA BRING UP SLAVERY THAT WAS SO LONG AGO.
:bvy: but i think it just pissed most of us off. We hate to see it
I understand the sentiment, but the exaggeration is what irks me. You're not seeing a new slavery movie pop up every like it's apart of some franchise. :dead:
And there are plenty of other black films, new and old, that cover a variety of topics, you're probably just gonna have to look further than Netflix and Hulu
2011 The Help
2012 Django
2013 12 years a slave
The Butler
2014 Selma
2016 Birth of a nation
Loving
2017 Mudbound
Hidden Figures
2019 When They see us
The best of Enemies
And these are just the few I could remember. Historically, when black movies are made and recognized on a large scale, it's some slavery, maid, yessuh massa type shit
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I mean, cute.
Won't be watching though.
Quote from: NILE. on July 23, 2019, 05:05:39 PM
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BXBXGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Janelle stay fucking booked
Wow I'm hollering already
:stressed:
I liked aisha from underground as harriet
Quote from: Lew Scherzinger Norwood on July 23, 2019, 10:54:32 PM
I liked aisha from underground as harriet
this trailer is literally shot just like underground to me
https://www.instagram.com/p/B0WtobrAgge/?igshid=in3ev07m5iev
Lmaooo
Lol i havent been sold on cynthia
Didnt like her in widows either
She was great in todricks mess tjo
Im not convinced of her as Harriet
IssaNo for me
https://twitter.com/simplystassi_/status/1154838510513397760
Quote from: Ton on July 23, 2019, 11:19:35 AM
Can't stand slave messes but this looks good
:gorlonfire:
Quote from: 1RIG on July 23, 2019, 10:55:57 PM
Quote from: Lew Scherzinger Norwood on July 23, 2019, 10:54:32 PM
I liked aisha from underground as harriet
this trailer is literally shot just like underground to me
I said the same thing
While it looks good.. it looks low budget
Quote from: Lew Scherzinger Norwood on July 25, 2019, 07:03:05 PM
Lmaooo
Lol i havent been sold on cynthia
Didnt like her in widows either
She was great in todricks mess tjo
Im not convinced of her as Harriet
she sorta slayed that hotel movie
Bad times at el royale
Quote from: Sleī Gets ACTĪVE on July 27, 2019, 08:15:49 AM
IssaNo for me
https://twitter.com/simplystassi_/status/1154838510513397760
she really didn't even do what they say she's doing
She simply said all blacks should be able to fill black roles :kii:
Yall are doing the most
When did she turn her head up at AA?
Also she's been 3 films already
one with Viola Davis :dead:
Oh ok. That retweet wasn't cool.
Fuck her and Yvonne Orji. I hate how she's always lip smackin and poppin her tongue as Molly.
They been lashing her on Twitter fjkkkkf
Something about her being super disrespectful toward black americans but wanting to play one. What's the etea?
What exactly would black Americans be jealous of Africans for? See, shit like this is why I push back on that "we are one" Kumbya bullshit.
Quote from: Sleī Gets ACTĪVE on July 27, 2019, 08:15:49 AM
IssaNo for me
https://twitter.com/simplystassi_/status/1154838510513397760
Yh after doing a little digging I'm not here for this.
I'm pleased at this impending flop
:blessed:
U don't get to down us and then play one of OUR most important heroes
I'm so tired of these dusty africans thinking they're better than us.
You're NOT
:unbothered:
Quote from: Grown Man on July 27, 2019, 11:26:50 AM
Someone actually took time to document all of her mess.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1044181901706178560.html
And to top that off - she's not ADOS, and she's not even an American citizen.
Thanks for this
After skimming that...I'm sorry but anyone still confused on why people feel a way :uhh:
https://twitter.com/mil3h1ghsmoker/status/1153767196729970689
:plzstop:
Quote from: jtwoeleven on July 28, 2019, 05:14:01 PM
What exactly would black Americans be jealous of Africans for? See, shit like this is why I push back on that "we are one" Kumbya bullshit.
Well modern african who immigrate to the us do not put respect on our name
And neither do the british ones
Now when you come to america to pursue your dream you are doing so on the backs of those slaves and slave decendents that built and made tgis country what it is
So they usually come with a superiority complex because they dont share that same history and america treats outsiders and animals better than they do theur black citizens..africans see this and join in and let the white man give them the leg up that we worked for and built but have trouble reaping benefits from
So there is a bit of tension on both sides
African americans to africans - dont let this white man gas u up...u still part of us and and ur still black no matter how much they treat u otherwise so font turn ya nose up at us we been here
Africans to african americans- ur just lazy and ghetto and we can come in and do better than you day one we dont associate with that we are above that and we still retain our culture
So this keeps the divide going