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I've finally found the last piece of my ancestral puzzle. :stressed:

I'll begin with this picture. This is my great great great Grandmother, on my mother's side.

She was of French and Black descent, and was a DeBerry (a Northern French name -- my mother's maiden name.)

Looking at this, you can clearly tell she was not enslaved. And possibly had some wealth, even. I later learned the term for what she was, which is a free person of color.

"Free people of color" was a term most used in FRENCH colonies.

(http://i65.tinypic.com/22red.jpg)

I decided to look up the details of the free people of color:

When I looked it up @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_people_of_color

I kept seeing one word keep popping up: Haiti.

I was like whoa :calmdownsis: Because I remembered these words...

Taron told me months ago:

Quoteyour features remind me of this Hatian girl from NYC that I went to school with. She had the prettiest chocolatey skin with this LONG beautiful wavy hair and her brother was so sexy

Monk told me months ago:

QuoteI rlly thought Afro was Haitian
idk why

had some Haitian coworkers in NYC
and they all have this similar look

u look distinctly Haitian

Now i'm not gonna lie, when they told me this mess I was originally looking like ... Haitian? :udontlookok: gor... sdnnsdndssd :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

I would have NEVER thought to look there for anything, because my family is not "Caribbean".

When I say my mouth DROPPED. I totally forgot how closely Haitian and French relations were!

She was basically Creole. :wub: :wub:

Louisiana Creole people have strong ties to the Caribbeans!

creole is a mix of French, Spanish/Portugese, African, Caribbean and Native blood
ALL of these regions came up in my DNA  :loose2when:
Crazy that even the Southeast African regions where the Portuguese mixed with Africans popped up as a huge part of my African DNA!!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creole_peoples

My mother's DNA is strong as fuck. :rudone:

EDIT: Also found that there is an city right on the border of Texas and Louisiana with my family's last name!!!!! :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

(http://i68.tinypic.com/xmvq6d.png)

I am proud of this heritage because unlike other colonists, the French EMBRACED  a LOT of their mixed race children, and offered them wealth and education.

Free people of color (or Creoles) were a distinct cluster of people , who separated themselves into their own sort of high class club. :dead: Many of them had the same "aura" my great great great grandmother gives in that photo. Very highly esteemed, very well poised. You can tell they were in good positions.

(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/b17dbd7671e28a064e5ae896f19b13b79d57f13a/c=0-218-8000-6218&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/Monroe/2015/04/26/B9317107826Z.1_20150426152659_000_G7HAJBMED.1-0.jpg)

(https://www.google.com/search?q=free+people+of+color&espv=2&biw=1128&bih=681&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiy0_PYiPHJAhXJYyYKHbMSAAcQ_AUIBygC#imgrc=ewcom-aIdnrCbM%3A)

The only part that I find discomfort in is that I read that many of them had "servants". I really hope she wasn't one of them, and I have no evidence that says she was. So I'll leave it at that.

I just told my grandmother :stressed: :stressed:....she is so excited to really know her tea.

She told me that people used to ask her if she was West Indian :dead: :dead: :dead:
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s
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Omg wow
This is amazing sis.


I really need to do my research like this because I know the feeling has to be so rewarding. And even therapeutic in a sense; you're unlocking your truth.  :stressed:

That's cool luv

But are you sure it's not Louisiana Creole?

But then again you would probably know if it was Louisiana though.

:wellheythere:

Quote from: Lion Babe on December 23, 2015, 12:25:11 AM
That's cool luv

But are you sure it's not Louisiana Creole?

But then again you would probably know if it was Louisiana though.

I'm sure it is

But you have to remember, Creole people didn't come out from the states originally. Many of them came from the Caribbean -- Haiti, etc.

QuoteMany Louisiana Creole families arrived in Louisiana from Saint Domingue as refugees from the Haitian Revolution.

A lot of Creole's deep origins are traced to the Caribbean. The genes are just that damn strong that they're still on my face generations down the damn line  :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:  strong enough for people to pick it up  :uhh: that's fucking crazy

Quote from: Young on December 23, 2015, 12:17:19 AM
Omg wow
This is amazing sis.


I really need to do my research like this because I know the feeling has to be so rewarding. And even therapeutic in a sense; you're unlocking your truth.  :stressed:

!!!!

I know it sounds so silly, but I almost cried today. :plzstop:

This is all I fucking wanted. Just to know who the fuck I am. I was so close to giving up.

And was avoiding Europe for filth.  :plzstop: :plzstop: That was stupid of me.

I have nothing to be ashamed of. My great great great grandmother was in a good place. And was part of something amazing. I'm proud of my heritage, and so glad I can just put a name on it that sums it all up.

My journey is officially done.

Quote from: Herbie on December 23, 2015, 12:39:40 AM

Quote from: Lion Babe on December 23, 2015, 12:25:11 AM
That's cool luv

But are you sure it's not Louisiana Creole?

But then again you would probably know if it was Louisiana though.

I'm sure it is

But you have to remember, Creole people didn't come out from the states originally. Many of them came from the Caribbean -- Haiti, etc.

QuoteMany Louisiana Creole families arrived in Louisiana from Saint Domingue as refugees from the Haitian Revolution.

A lot of Creole's deep origins are traced to the Caribbean. The genes are just that damn strong that they're still on my face generations down the damn line  :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:  strong enough for people to pick it up  :uhh: that's fucking crazy

Yeah alot of Haitians came to Louisiana, but you Louisiana was a French colony first so there were alot of creoles already there. That's why Louisana Creoles are the most "mixed" group of Black Americans but I get what you're saying

That's so cool. You should learn to speak Haitian Creole  :stressed:

Quote from: BowDown on December 23, 2015, 12:31:03 AM

:wellheythere:

ssssssss

So all my redbones get on da flo'
And all my yellowbones got on da flo'
And all my brownbones get on da flo'
Then you mix it up, and you call it Creole!!!! :cheerup:

This is amazing

Quote from: Lion Babe on December 23, 2015, 12:44:44 AM

Quote from: Herbie on December 23, 2015, 12:39:40 AM

Quote from: Lion Babe on December 23, 2015, 12:25:11 AM
That's cool luv

But are you sure it's not Louisiana Creole?

But then again you would probably know if it was Louisiana though.

I'm sure it is

But you have to remember, Creole people didn't come out from the states originally. Many of them came from the Caribbean -- Haiti, etc.

QuoteMany Louisiana Creole families arrived in Louisiana from Saint Domingue as refugees from the Haitian Revolution.

A lot of Creole's deep origins are traced to the Caribbean. The genes are just that damn strong that they're still on my face generations down the damn line  :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:  strong enough for people to pick it up  :uhh: that's fucking crazy

Yeah alot of Haitians came to Louisiana, but you Louisiana was a French colony first so there were alot of creoles already there. That's why Louisana Creoles are the most "mixed" group of Black Americans but I get what you're saying

That's so cool. You should learn to speak Haitian Creole  :stressed:

Yeah I don't know why I didn't put it together before.

When I started looking it the pieces....the French, African, Native, Iberian (Spanish) results .. I was like wait isn't this Creole ?  :uhh: :udontlookok:

But I was like no. I didn't even bother looking further into it.

Hun, when I perched into that Free Persons of Color page today I was SLAYED. Like omfg.  :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: it put EVERYTHING into perspective . I would have NEVER looked for any of this information I found. It just smacked me in the face. :plzstop:

My grandmother was like waiiiittt...yes!!! :dead:

She didn't know much about this mess. Which is understandable, she wasn't close to her father's family. And this is where that ancestry comes from. I wondered why she kept telling me to look into it. but it makes sense now. I feel so bad for delaying it. She was asking because she didn't have an opportunity to know them. She was excited.  :plzstop: :'( :'( :-(

I was thinking of learning the language today too. sssssss
ommff I wanna go to Louisiana now. Maybe I'll surprise my grandmother with a trip there.

Quote from: Young on December 23, 2015, 12:50:47 AM
This is amazing

Luv, download your raw DNA file from Ancestry and upload it to GEDMatch if you want a more thorough breakdown of your mess.

I'll help you learn how to use it.
ANd how to read the results...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JhT75JjomM

I tried to dig deep but my fam don't know shit and I dont understand that GEDmatch stuff :plzstop:

Quote from: Lion Babe on December 23, 2015, 01:10:01 AM
I tried to dig deep but my fam don't know shit and I dont understand that GEDmatch stuff :plzstop:

That kit you have is autosomal right?

Quote from: Herbie on December 23, 2015, 01:15:40 AM

Quote from: Lion Babe on December 23, 2015, 01:10:01 AM
I tried to dig deep but my fam don't know shit and I dont understand that GEDmatch stuff :plzstop:

That kit you have is autosomal right?

I remember seeing that word somewhere so Imma say yes.  :supluv:

Quote from: Lion Babe on December 23, 2015, 01:16:36 AM

Quote from: Herbie on December 23, 2015, 01:15:40 AM

Quote from: Lion Babe on December 23, 2015, 01:10:01 AM
I tried to dig deep but my fam don't know shit and I dont understand that GEDmatch stuff :plzstop:

That kit you have is autosomal right?

I remember seeing that word somewhere so Imma say yes.  :supluv:

;,mpj[nohbpigvouicyutxyrzetrsjdfguhibjn

autosomal means its a reading from your entire genome -- both sides of the family
instead of isolating it to your maternal (Mtdna) line or dad's line

Quote from: Herbie on December 23, 2015, 01:19:58 AM

Quote from: Lion Babe on December 23, 2015, 01:16:36 AM

Quote from: Herbie on December 23, 2015, 01:15:40 AM

Quote from: Lion Babe on December 23, 2015, 01:10:01 AM
I tried to dig deep but my fam don't know shit and I dont understand that GEDmatch stuff :plzstop:

That kit you have is autosomal right?

I remember seeing that word somewhere so Imma say yes.  :supluv:

;,mpj[nohbpigvouicyutxyrzetrsjdfguhibjn

autosomal means its a reading from your entire genome -- both sides of the family
instead of isolating it to your maternal (Mtdna) line or dad's line

Oh yeah lol it was

Quote from: Lion Babe on December 23, 2015, 01:22:07 AM

Quote from: Herbie on December 23, 2015, 01:19:58 AM

Quote from: Lion Babe on December 23, 2015, 01:16:36 AM

Quote from: Herbie on December 23, 2015, 01:15:40 AM

Quote from: Lion Babe on December 23, 2015, 01:10:01 AM
I tried to dig deep but my fam don't know shit and I dont understand that GEDmatch stuff :plzstop:

That kit you have is autosomal right?

I remember seeing that word somewhere so Imma say yes.  :supluv:

;,mpj[nohbpigvouicyutxyrzetrsjdfguhibjn

autosomal means its a reading from your entire genome -- both sides of the family
instead of isolating it to your maternal (Mtdna) line or dad's line

Oh yeah lol it was

ill study it a bit 2morrow  :ohwow: :ohwow: :ohwow:

Quote from: Herbie on December 23, 2015, 01:22:51 AM

Quote from: Lion Babe on December 23, 2015, 01:22:07 AM

Quote from: Herbie on December 23, 2015, 01:19:58 AM

Quote from: Lion Babe on December 23, 2015, 01:16:36 AM

Quote from: Herbie on December 23, 2015, 01:15:40 AM

Quote from: Lion Babe on December 23, 2015, 01:10:01 AM
I tried to dig deep but my fam don't know shit and I dont understand that GEDmatch stuff :plzstop:

That kit you have is autosomal right?

I remember seeing that word somewhere so Imma say yes.  :supluv:

;,mpj[nohbpigvouicyutxyrzetrsjdfguhibjn

autosomal means its a reading from your entire genome -- both sides of the family
instead of isolating it to your maternal (Mtdna) line or dad's line

Oh yeah lol it was

ill study it a bit 2morrow  :ohwow: :ohwow: :ohwow:

:ATLcameo:

Quote from: Herbie on December 22, 2015, 10:41:16 PM
I've finally found the last piece of my ancestral puzzle. :stressed:

I'll begin with this picture. This is my great great great Grandmother, on my mother's side.

She was of French and Black descent, and was a DeBerry (a Northern French name -- my mother's maiden name.)

Looking at this, you can clearly tell she was not enslaved. And possibly had some wealth, even. I later learned the term for what she was, which is a free person of color.

"Free people of color" was a term most used in FRENCH colonies.

(http://i65.tinypic.com/22red.jpg)

I decided to look up the details of the free people of color:

When I looked it up @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_people_of_color

I kept seeing one word keep popping up: Haiti. The French actually had colonies in Haiti where a lot of these free people of color existed.

I was like whoa :calmdownsis: Because I remembered these words...

Taron told me months ago:

Quoteyour features remind me of this Hatian girl from NYC that I went to school with. She had the prettiest chocolatey skin with this LONG beautiful wavy hair and her brother was so sexy

Monk told me months ago:

QuoteI rlly thought Afro was Haitian
idk why

had some Haitian coworkers in NYC
and they all have this similar look

u look distinctly Haitian

Now i'm not gonna lie, when they told me this mess I was originally looking like ... Haitian? :udontlookok: gor... sdnnsdndssd :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

I would have NEVER thought to look there for anything, because my family is not "Caribbean".

When I say my mouth DROPPED. I totally forgot how closely Haitian and French relations were!

She was basically Creole. :wub: :wub:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creole_peoples

My mother's DNA is strong as fuck. :rudone:

:howfestive:  :howfestive: omgwow its amazing how strong genes can be. I was amazed how much you look like your great grandmother. I wish I had your patience & dedication  to sit down and really see where my family is from

Quote from: LiiVE on December 23, 2015, 04:12:40 AM

Quote from: Herbie on December 22, 2015, 10:41:16 PM
I've finally found the last piece of my ancestral puzzle. :stressed:

I'll begin with this picture. This is my great great great Grandmother, on my mother's side.

She was of French and Black descent, and was a DeBerry (a Northern French name -- my mother's maiden name.)

Looking at this, you can clearly tell she was not enslaved. And possibly had some wealth, even. I later learned the term for what she was, which is a free person of color.

"Free people of color" was a term most used in FRENCH colonies.

(http://i65.tinypic.com/22red.jpg)

I decided to look up the details of the free people of color:

When I looked it up @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_people_of_color

I kept seeing one word keep popping up: Haiti. The French actually had colonies in Haiti where a lot of these free people of color existed.

I was like whoa :calmdownsis: Because I remembered these words...

Taron told me months ago:

Quoteyour features remind me of this Hatian girl from NYC that I went to school with. She had the prettiest chocolatey skin with this LONG beautiful wavy hair and her brother was so sexy

Monk told me months ago:

QuoteI rlly thought Afro was Haitian
idk why

had some Haitian coworkers in NYC
and they all have this similar look

u look distinctly Haitian

Now i'm not gonna lie, when they told me this mess I was originally looking like ... Haitian? :udontlookok: gor... sdnnsdndssd :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

I would have NEVER thought to look there for anything, because my family is not "Caribbean".

When I say my mouth DROPPED. I totally forgot how closely Haitian and French relations were!

She was basically Creole. :wub: :wub:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creole_peoples

My mother's DNA is strong as fuck. :rudone:

:howfestive:  :howfestive: omgwow its amazing how strong genes can be. I was amazed how much you look like your great grandmother. I wish I had your patience & dedication  to sit down and really see where my family is from

You give a Congo tea

And we'll done Herbs
All that patience, hard and perseverance paid off
You must feel 'complete'?

Quote from: Herbie on December 23, 2015, 01:07:52 AM

Quote from: Young on December 23, 2015, 12:50:47 AM
This is amazing

Luv, download your raw DNA file from Ancestry and upload it to GEDMatch if you want a more thorough breakdown of your mess.

I'll help you learn how to use it.
ANd how to read the results...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JhT75JjomM

Omfff thanks  :stressed:

Quote from: Didyouevenknowversace? on December 23, 2015, 05:32:01 AM
And we'll done Herbs
All that patience, hard and perseverance paid off
You must feel 'complete'?

YESS!!!!!

am so relieved :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

I thank God that I have that picture of my great great great grandmother. Otherwise I would have never put the pieces together tbh. She was the biggest piece of the puzzle. :stressed: beautiful self  :'( :'(

I'm so happy ssss

and why do I suddenly luv 'fas more  :plzstop: :plzstop: :uhh: :uhh:

Quote from: LiiVE on December 23, 2015, 04:12:40 AM

Quote from: Herbie on December 22, 2015, 10:41:16 PM
I've finally found the last piece of my ancestral puzzle. :stressed:

I'll begin with this picture. This is my great great great Grandmother, on my mother's side.

She was of French and Black descent, and was a DeBerry (a Northern French name -- my mother's maiden name.)

Looking at this, you can clearly tell she was not enslaved. And possibly had some wealth, even. I later learned the term for what she was, which is a free person of color.

"Free people of color" was a term most used in FRENCH colonies.

(http://i65.tinypic.com/22red.jpg)

I decided to look up the details of the free people of color:

When I looked it up @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_people_of_color

I kept seeing one word keep popping up: Haiti. The French actually had colonies in Haiti where a lot of these free people of color existed.

I was like whoa :calmdownsis: Because I remembered these words...

Taron told me months ago:

Quoteyour features remind me of this Hatian girl from NYC that I went to school with. She had the prettiest chocolatey skin with this LONG beautiful wavy hair and her brother was so sexy

Monk told me months ago:

QuoteI rlly thought Afro was Haitian
idk why

had some Haitian coworkers in NYC
and they all have this similar look

u look distinctly Haitian

Now i'm not gonna lie, when they told me this mess I was originally looking like ... Haitian? :udontlookok: gor... sdnnsdndssd :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

I would have NEVER thought to look there for anything, because my family is not "Caribbean".

When I say my mouth DROPPED. I totally forgot how closely Haitian and French relations were!

She was basically Creole. :wub: :wub:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creole_peoples

My mother's DNA is strong as fuck. :rudone:

:howfestive:  :howfestive: omgwow its amazing how strong genes can be. I was amazed how much you look like your great grandmother. I wish I had your patience & dedication  to sit down and really see where my family is from

:stressed:

I think what fueled my curiosity is other people honestly. People like you and Monk who assume my roots are somewhere besides America. Monk was so SURE.  :plzstop: A lot of people are like that, they swear up and down that me and my sisters are from the West Indies or something.

But as you can see through my intensive research, my grandmother knew very little about a lot of her heritage. So we were raised as black Americans.

So you can imagine my confusion when people are asking me if I'm Haitian, or Jamaican, or West Indian. It's like where the FUCK are u getting that from? :uhh: :uhh: :uhh: I'm not Caribbean  :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

It got especially bad when I started growing my hair out. Which is something I've never done before.

That's what fueled me. I didn't want to stop until I had a solid answer. I'm satisfied now!!!!!!!!

Quote from: Young on December 23, 2015, 05:34:59 AM

Quote from: Herbie on December 23, 2015, 01:07:52 AM

Quote from: Young on December 23, 2015, 12:50:47 AM
This is amazing

Luv, download your raw DNA file from Ancestry and upload it to GEDMatch if you want a more thorough breakdown of your mess.

I'll help you learn how to use it.
ANd how to read the results...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JhT75JjomM

Omfff thanks  :stressed:

:wub:

PM me the kit # they give you once you upload it

OMFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

I just found....there is an entire CITY named "DeBerry" , my mom's maiden name, which sits right on the border of Louisiana in Texas!!!

:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

my mind is officially BLOWN :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when:



(http://i68.tinypic.com/xmvq6d.png)

Quote from: Didyouevenknowversace? on December 23, 2015, 05:28:38 AM

Quote from: LiiVE on December 23, 2015, 04:12:40 AM

Quote from: Herbie on December 22, 2015, 10:41:16 PM
I've finally found the last piece of my ancestral puzzle. :stressed:

I'll begin with this picture. This is my great great great Grandmother, on my mother's side.

She was of French and Black descent, and was a DeBerry (a Northern French name -- my mother's maiden name.)

Looking at this, you can clearly tell she was not enslaved. And possibly had some wealth, even. I later learned the term for what she was, which is a free person of color.

"Free people of color" was a term most used in FRENCH colonies.

(http://i65.tinypic.com/22red.jpg)

I decided to look up the details of the free people of color:

When I looked it up @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_people_of_color

I kept seeing one word keep popping up: Haiti. The French actually had colonies in Haiti where a lot of these free people of color existed.

I was like whoa :calmdownsis: Because I remembered these words...

Taron told me months ago:

Quoteyour features remind me of this Hatian girl from NYC that I went to school with. She had the prettiest chocolatey skin with this LONG beautiful wavy hair and her brother was so sexy

Monk told me months ago:

QuoteI rlly thought Afro was Haitian
idk why

had some Haitian coworkers in NYC
and they all have this similar look

u look distinctly Haitian

Now i'm not gonna lie, when they told me this mess I was originally looking like ... Haitian? :udontlookok: gor... sdnnsdndssd :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

I would have NEVER thought to look there for anything, because my family is not "Caribbean".

When I say my mouth DROPPED. I totally forgot how closely Haitian and French relations were!

She was basically Creole. :wub: :wub:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creole_peoples

My mother's DNA is strong as fuck. :rudone:

:howfestive:  :howfestive: omgwow its amazing how strong genes can be. I was amazed how much you look like your great grandmother. I wish I had your patience & dedication  to sit down and really see where my family is from

You give a Congo tea

oh hey! lemme google and see what they give
:jarvwhereru:

Quote from: Herbie on December 24, 2015, 12:09:37 PM
OMFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

I just found....there is an entire CITY named "DeBerry" , my mom's maiden name, which sits right on the border of Louisiana in Texas!!!

:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

my mind is officially BLOWN :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when:



(http://i68.tinypic.com/xmvq6d.png)

omgg :flamebroiled: :flamebroiled:  wait are u rich now?  :ATLcameo:

Quote from: LiiVE on December 24, 2015, 12:35:13 PM

Quote from: Herbie on December 24, 2015, 12:09:37 PM
OMFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

I just found....there is an entire CITY named "DeBerry" , my mom's maiden name, which sits right on the border of Louisiana in Texas!!!

:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

my mind is officially BLOWN :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when: :loose2when:



(http://i68.tinypic.com/xmvq6d.png)

omgg :flamebroiled: :flamebroiled:  wait are u rich now?  :ATLcameo:

fdfdfdffddfdfdffdffd

I doubt it .  :nowgorl:

This is so crazy though, I ALWAYS thought my mom's side of the family had so much mess going on racially. This one was this, he was that, she was this,  :melmel:  but it all makes sense now. Creoles are like one of the most admixed groups of people ....

this is why people can't figure out where my siblings comes from ..asking if she's West INdian and mess, and calling me Haitian ssssss or asking if I have indian in the family....

I think u guys thought I was making it up, but people really ask me what I'm mixed with, or where I am from. once I started growing my natural hair it was a problem....ive even been accused of jeri curls or perm :dead: .... but we were raised as black Americans. my grandmother wasn't sitting around talking about her heritage. But maybe that's because she didn't know much. I kept wondering why she was so pushy about me looking into her dad's side of the family.

it is a lot of fucking MESS ..wait til she finds out there's a city named after her

Omg I knew it lol

Congrats luv!!!!!

Monk told me months ago:

QuoteI rlly thought Afro was Haitian
idk why

had some Haitian coworkers in NYC
and they all have this similar look

u look distinctly Haitian

Now i'm not gonna lie, when they told me this mess I was originally looking like ... Haitian? :udontlookok: gor... sdnnsdndssd :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
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:sevynstreeter:

Quote from: m.monk on December 24, 2015, 01:47:47 PM
Omg I knew it lol

Congrats luv!!!!!

Thank u :stressed:

My grandmother said ppl always asked if she was West Indian or Caribbean as well when she was younger.

Quote from: m.monk on December 24, 2015, 01:52:25 PM


Monk told me months ago:

QuoteI rlly thought Afro was Haitian
idk why

had some Haitian coworkers in NYC
and they all have this similar look

u look distinctly Haitian

Now i'm not gonna lie, when they told me this mess I was originally looking like ... Haitian? :udontlookok: gor... sdnnsdndssd :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

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:sevynstreeter:
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:mmyucudnvr:  :udontlookok: :wub:

I just didn't understand where it came from. So random. :plzstop:

Quote from: Herbie on December 24, 2015, 05:03:20 PM

Quote from: m.monk on December 24, 2015, 01:52:25 PM


Monk told me months ago:

QuoteI rlly thought Afro was Haitian
idk why

had some Haitian coworkers in NYC
and they all have this similar look

u look distinctly Haitian

Now i'm not gonna lie, when they told me this mess I was originally looking like ... Haitian? :udontlookok: gor... sdnnsdndssd :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

:sevynstreeter:
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:mmyucudnvr:  :udontlookok: :wub:

I just didn't understand where it came from. So random. :plzstop:
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ive been hired by the cia fbi fema and dept of homeland security bc of my keen abilities  :ATLcameo:

Quote from: m.monk on December 24, 2015, 05:50:28 PM

Quote from: Herbie on December 24, 2015, 05:03:20 PM

Quote from: m.monk on December 24, 2015, 01:52:25 PM


Monk told me months ago:

QuoteI rlly thought Afro was Haitian
idk why

had some Haitian coworkers in NYC
and they all have this similar look

u look distinctly Haitian

Now i'm not gonna lie, when they told me this mess I was originally looking like ... Haitian? :udontlookok: gor... sdnnsdndssd :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

:sevynstreeter:

:mmyucudnvr:  :udontlookok: :wub:

I just didn't understand where it came from. So random. :plzstop:
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ive been hired by the cia fbi fema and dept of homeland security bc of my keen abilities  :ATLcameo:
[/quote]im white :ohwow:

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I'm white too luv

with all the concealer  :young:

Quote from: m.monk on December 24, 2015, 05:59:00 PM
cxcccxccxcCv

I'm white too luv

with all the concealer  :young:

/

ya cant sit with us.

Oh wow are you related to the Beyinc?s?

Quote from: Rajesha on December 24, 2015, 07:03:37 PM
Oh wow are you related to the Beyinc?s?

I don't steal
so probably not :ohwow:

n

and you've been preggers several times if I recall correctly

Quote from: m.monk on December 24, 2015, 07:10:36 PM
n

and you've been preggers several times if I recall correctly

with a sonogram to actually prove it lolz :cheerup:

Quote from: Didyouevenknowversace? on December 23, 2015, 05:28:38 AM

Quote from: LiiVE on December 23, 2015, 04:12:40 AM

Quote from: Herbie on December 22, 2015, 10:41:16 PM
I've finally found the last piece of my ancestral puzzle. :stressed:

I'll begin with this picture. This is my great great great Grandmother, on my mother's side.

She was of French and Black descent, and was a DeBerry (a Northern French name -- my mother's maiden name.)

Looking at this, you can clearly tell she was not enslaved. And possibly had some wealth, even. I later learned the term for what she was, which is a free person of color.

"Free people of color" was a term most used in FRENCH colonies.

(http://i65.tinypic.com/22red.jpg)

I decided to look up the details of the free people of color:

When I looked it up @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_people_of_color

I kept seeing one word keep popping up: Haiti. The French actually had colonies in Haiti where a lot of these free people of color existed.

I was like whoa :calmdownsis: Because I remembered these words...

Taron told me months ago:

Quoteyour features remind me of this Hatian girl from NYC that I went to school with. She had the prettiest chocolatey skin with this LONG beautiful wavy hair and her brother was so sexy

Monk told me months ago:

QuoteI rlly thought Afro was Haitian
idk why

had some Haitian coworkers in NYC
and they all have this similar look

u look distinctly Haitian

Now i'm not gonna lie, when they told me this mess I was originally looking like ... Haitian? :udontlookok: gor... sdnnsdndssd :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

I would have NEVER thought to look there for anything, because my family is not "Caribbean".

When I say my mouth DROPPED. I totally forgot how closely Haitian and French relations were!

She was basically Creole. :wub: :wub:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creole_peoples

My mother's DNA is strong as fuck. :rudone:

:howfestive:  :howfestive: omgwow its amazing how strong genes can be. I was amazed how much you look like your great grandmother. I wish I had your patience & dedication  to sit down and really see where my family is from

You give a Congo tea

I literally screamed at this.  :kii: :plzstop: :kii:

Amazing. It's also amazing that your family preserved that picture :uhh:

Quote from: Marilyn on December 24, 2015, 08:28:20 PM
Amazing. It's also amazing that your family preserved that picture :uhh:

!!!

You don't know how thankful I am to have this picture
It literally was worth a thousand words. And I would have never been able to make a solid connection without this evidence.

I can finally put this ancestry journey to fucking rest.
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :stressed: :stressed:

Which I'm sure many people will be thankful for, my sisters included.
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ssssssss :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:

I don't feel alone tho. My grandmother said she was also the only one of her TWELVE siblings that wanted to know more about her family.

She looks so much like her great granny :stressed:

This is amazing but at the same time I always had a feeling you weren't 100% AA :dead: Idk but I could tell by your bone structure and also your sister looks Caribbean

Quote from: imaan. on December 24, 2015, 08:37:12 PM
This is amazing but at the same time I always had a feeling you weren't 100% AA :dead: Idk but I could tell by your bone structure and also your sister looks Caribbean

:wub:

My aunt (moms sis) expressed the same thing. When I told her I took the test (months ago before I got the results), she said we weren't fully "African American" based on what she knew. And I'm not gonna lie, I luv my auntie but I looked at the phone like :udontlookok: is she OK? Why would she say that? My aunt's a highly educated woman and the last person I'd expect to be saying some self-loathing mess like that.

But now that I've finally really begun to put the pieces together this week, she was right. She was really excited that I found it all out, and bragged about her being right, saying that she's been saying this for years. But she still gave me a stern reminder that at the end of the day, to remember a white cop is still gonna see a nigga.

:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

she is a fucking HOOT :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: i swear ya'll would love her.

Your like one of the rare African Americans that can say they KNOW their history!

Quote from: Hazeleyes on December 25, 2015, 05:52:35 AM
Your like one of the rare African Americans that can say they KNOW their history!

:wub:

it didn't fall in my lap (like it does for other races) but with the clues and dedication I was able to make some sense of things. :stressed:

This is so inspiring sis

Quote from: Young on December 25, 2015, 10:36:36 AM
This is so inspiring sis

:stressed:

Love you bvy. :wub: :wub: :wub: This feels like my Christmas present to myself.  :plzstop: :plzstop:

merry christmas :stressed: :stressed: :stressed:

this guerilla style promotion...


ok af make ya voice heard! lemme get in

Quote from: Rajesha on March 23, 2016, 07:26:53 PM
this guerilla style promotion...

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;sssdsdds what the fuck

why'd u bump this you messy little shit ssssssss