[youtube autoplay=1]https://youtu.be/IVIoC5ROaHk[/youtube]
this is pure mess
but im becoming more black conservative :uhh: :wub:
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why do you think we want to watch this
Quote from: MelMel on June 11, 2020, 06:26:28 PM
why do you think we want to watch this
the conversation is important
unless we all should just blindly be democrats
but mr heart of dixie himself shouldnt be saying shit about having a conversation about differing views :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
It's actually a good watch and there are good points on both sides.
I agree with the need to get rid of this "victim" mentality. I hate it.
Black Trump supporters have nothing of value to say. I hate these dumb ass videos.
Quote from: Lew Scherzinger Norwood on June 11, 2020, 07:04:07 PM
Quote from: MelMel on June 11, 2020, 06:26:28 PM
why do you think we want to watch this
the conversation is important
unless we all should just blindly be democrats
but mr heart of dixie himself shouldnt be saying shit about having a conversation about differing views :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
yeah what does that fictional show have anything to do with my political views? and to be honest, both sides are fucking stupid so what do you say now?
Quote from: Blamblam on June 11, 2020, 07:06:18 PM
Black Trump supporters have nothing of value to say. I hate these dumb ass videos.
I guess I am a right leaning liberal conservative if that is such a thing
But i feel neither side is "wrong" its just how does it all work together
Obama was good optics for the culture but on paper not much progress for us except the optics
Trump like dey said hes done some things that could help blacks
Lew you keep talking to me out of turn and I don't appreciate it :hmph:
Quote from: MelMel on June 11, 2020, 07:11:48 PM
Quote from: Lew Scherzinger Norwood on June 11, 2020, 07:04:07 PM
Quote from: MelMel on June 11, 2020, 06:26:28 PM
why do you think we want to watch this
the conversation is important
unless we all should just blindly be democrats
but mr heart of dixie himself shouldnt be saying shit about having a conversation about differing views :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
yeah what does that fictional show have anything to do with my political views? and to be honest, both sides are fucking stupid so what do you say now?
Not alot of black liberals watch it or come from the same tracks that would even know about it
so
just based on your odd interest alone and what that alignment may mean speaking to ur state of mind
its fair to say that you could be included in the conversation as someone not following black liberal trends
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Quote from: MelMel on June 11, 2020, 07:16:27 PM
Lew you keep talking to me out of turn and I don't appreciate it :hmph:
Im sorry dear are you bothered?
much love and hugs but you tried it trying to insinuate this conversation isnt important or interesting
when your harboring alot conservative alignment just in your media consumption choices :usuresis:
Black conservatives love to make it seems as if they are more intelligent than black liberals. My issue with this, is that the majority of black people are democratic/liberal. So it is easy for the conservatives to seem more intelligent than liberals and the conservatives take advantage of this.
I remember Candace Owens asking for a debate against someone like TI. And its like, why dont you ask to debate against Angela Rye or even Amanda Seales?
Quote from: Blamblam on June 11, 2020, 07:06:18 PM
Black Trump supporters have nothing of value to say. I hate these dumb ass videos.
Quote from: Bruce on June 11, 2020, 07:28:10 PM
Black conservatives love to make it seems as if they are more intelligent than black liberals. My issue with this, is that the majority of black people are democratic/liberal. So it is easy for the conservatives to seem more intelligent than liberals and the conservatives take advantage of this.
I remember Candace Owens asking for a debate against someone like TI. And its like, why dont you ask to debate against Angela Rye or even Amanda Seales?
lol the sentiment is the same and TI is college educated hun not him being a dummy against candace
Most black conservatives separate from the emotional connection of the poverty and victimhood slavery and racism from the overall human experience and i think thats seen as white adjacent but really
being liberal and letting all these groups into your mix has pushed their problems down and ignored
I would like to see her and Amanda come with facts tho but she too is an emotionally charged black liberal basically so it dont really matter who it is lol
This really should have been Carlton Banks and glasses guy.
Quote from: Lew Scherzinger Norwood on June 11, 2020, 07:36:51 PM
Quote from: Bruce on June 11, 2020, 07:28:10 PM
Black conservatives love to make it seems as if they are more intelligent than black liberals. My issue with this, is that the majority of black people are democratic/liberal. So it is easy for the conservatives to seem more intelligent than liberals and the conservatives take advantage of this.
I remember Candace Owens asking for a debate against someone like TI. And its like, why dont you ask to debate against Angela Rye or even Amanda Seales?
Most black conservatives separate from the emotional connection of the poverty and victimhood slavery and racism from the overall human experience and i think thats seen as white adjacent but really
being liberal and letting all these groups into your mix has pushed their problems down and ignored
And conservatives think that because of this they have broken the chains of systematic racism. Its like go compare your paycheck to the white guy/girl with someone that has equal education and experience as you. This allows conservatives to implant into white people's mind that the obstacles face by people of color in American society are completely fictional.
Quote from: Bruce on June 11, 2020, 07:42:32 PM
Quote from: Lew Scherzinger Norwood on June 11, 2020, 07:36:51 PM
Quote from: Bruce on June 11, 2020, 07:28:10 PM
Black conservatives love to make it seems as if they are more intelligent than black liberals. My issue with this, is that the majority of black people are democratic/liberal. So it is easy for the conservatives to seem more intelligent than liberals and the conservatives take advantage of this.
I remember Candace Owens asking for a debate against someone like TI. And its like, why dont you ask to debate against Angela Rye or even Amanda Seales?
Most black conservatives separate from the emotional connection of the poverty and victimhood slavery and racism from the overall human experience and i think thats seen as white adjacent but really
being liberal and letting all these groups into your mix has pushed their problems down and ignored
And conservatives think that because of this they have broken the chains of systematic racism. Its like go compare your paycheck to the white guy/girl with someone that has equal education and experience as you. This allows conservatives to implant into white people's mind that the obstacles face by people of color in American society are completely fictional.
Yeah I agree its like Wtf it doesnt matter If Daquan and Rafiqe ended up with a decent set of cards
oppression and racism and everything else is still a big deal
we have to think about majority and celebrate the minority equally
and i hate that view of oh if i can you can too
Quote from: Lew Scherzinger Norwood on June 11, 2020, 07:15:05 PM
Quote from: Blamblam on June 11, 2020, 07:06:18 PM
Black Trump supporters have nothing of value to say. I hate these dumb ass videos.
I guess I am a right leaning liberal conservative if that is such a thing
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How conservative were you when doing meth and sucking off Samoans you picked up on the side of the road?
Quote from: Kalifornia. on June 11, 2020, 08:05:47 PM
How conservative were you when doing meth and sucking off Samoans you picked up on the side of the road?
😮
Quote from: Kalifornia. on June 11, 2020, 08:05:47 PM
How conservative were you when doing meth and sucking off Samoans you picked up on the side of the road?
:shook:
I watched this a while back and it was basically a circle jerk of passive aggression. Most black conservatives lack empathy and seem to think that because they haven't been personally crushed by certain oppressive structures that every other black person who has is lying or just playing victim. And most black liberals seem to infantilize any person of color and are more interested in lining their own pockets under the guise of liberation.
Either way, the media usually gravitates to people who represent both extremes and have them scream at each other with no clear solutions in sight.
Quote from: Kalifornia. on June 11, 2020, 08:05:47 PM
How conservative were you when doing meth and sucking off Samoans you picked up on the side of the road?
I did include Liberal in there hun
that would fall under that
Quote from: animmai. on June 11, 2020, 08:15:19 PM
I watched this a while back and it was basically a circle jerk of passive aggression. Most black conservatives lack empathy and seem to think that because they haven't been personally crushed by certain oppressive structures that every other black person who has is lying or just playing victim. And most black liberals seem to infantilize any person of color and are more interested in lining their own pockets under the guise of liberation.
Either way, the media usually gravitates to people who represent both extremes and have them scream at each other with no clear solutions in sight.
Omg so where do you stand in all of this
I have so many conservative views
but liberal ones as well
and i feel both sides are important
but right now i feel republicans kinda align with it a bit more :usuresis:
democrats iono :hmph:
Quote from: MelMel on June 11, 2020, 08:12:06 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on June 11, 2020, 08:05:47 PM
How conservative were you when doing meth and sucking off Samoans you picked up on the side of the road?
:shook:
dont be lookin like dat
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What exactly are black conservatives conserving? Question that needs answers.
Quote from: Lew Scherzinger Norwood on June 11, 2020, 08:24:50 PM
Quote from: animmai. on June 11, 2020, 08:15:19 PM
I watched this a while back and it was basically a circle jerk of passive aggression. Most black conservatives lack empathy and seem to think that because they haven't been personally crushed by certain oppressive structures that every other black person who has is lying or just playing victim. And most black liberals seem to infantilize any person of color and are more interested in lining their own pockets under the guise of liberation.
Either way, the media usually gravitates to people who represent both extremes and have them scream at each other with no clear solutions in sight.
Omg so where do you stand in all of this
I have so many conservative views
but liberal ones as well
and i feel both sides are important
but right now i feel republicans kinda align with it a bit more :usuresis:
democrats iono :hmph:
I really don't know :dead:
Quiet as it's kept, I think a lot of black people are actually conservative, especially the older religious sect. The obsession with maintaining the traditional family, pulling yourself up by your bootstraps, and clinging to religion are deeply conservative values. Most niggas just don't wanna call themselves republicans because how many of those nazi/white supremist nut jobs are all over the right wing side.
Quote from: animmai. on June 11, 2020, 08:33:29 PM
Quote from: Lew Scherzinger Norwood on June 11, 2020, 08:24:50 PM
Quote from: animmai. on June 11, 2020, 08:15:19 PM
I watched this a while back and it was basically a circle jerk of passive aggression. Most black conservatives lack empathy and seem to think that because they haven't been personally crushed by certain oppressive structures that every other black person who has is lying or just playing victim. And most black liberals seem to infantilize any person of color and are more interested in lining their own pockets under the guise of liberation.
Either way, the media usually gravitates to people who represent both extremes and have them scream at each other with no clear solutions in sight.
Omg so where do you stand in all of this
I have so many conservative views
but liberal ones as well
and i feel both sides are important
but right now i feel republicans kinda align with it a bit more :usuresis:
democrats iono :hmph:
I really don't know :dead:
Quiet as it's kept, I think a lot of black people are actually conservative, especially the older religious sect. The obsession with maintaining the traditional family, pulling yourself up by your bootstraps, and clinging to religion are deeply conservative values. Most niggas just don't wanna call themselves republicans because how many of those nazi/white supremist nut jobs are all over the right wing side.
LOL yes its an odd place to be
I really dont like liberal views clouding blacks main issues
but i also dont think the few that have a different experience should speak for all
but i feel we all honestly should have a shot at what those conservatives are experiencing
it would require alot of equity to balance it out
a bit a reparations to reset
and ongoing plans to keep it steady
not to say that rich ppul dont commit crimes but
with that survival element we face so much being eased a bit of course the crime would lessen
and yeah alot of blacks are selectively conservative which is why
we now need an all black lives matter within the black lives matter :plzstop:
the extreme left blm says throw the uncle toms away
and extreme right blm says my auntcle and thugisha matters too
its such mess
Quote from: Bruce on June 11, 2020, 07:28:10 PMMy issue with this, is that the majority of black people are democratic/liberal.
The majority of black
voters vote liberal, but I honestly believe the majority of black people are conservative (especially the older generation). If the Republicans stopped treating blacks like subhumans and didn't value the votes of racists, you'd probably see a lot more black voters deserting the Democrats.
Politically, black people are a monolith. We mostly socially conservative, but lean left on economic issues. This can be seen as what happened in the South Carolina primary.
Quote from: jtwoeleven on June 11, 2020, 08:32:29 PM
What exactly are black conservatives conserving? Question that needs answers.
This is a good Question and I think it could spawn a new group definition of black conservative.
but for now it basically means you have the same views as the white conservatives. There is just a rule that says how can you be aligned with somthing so typically white and still be proud to be black loll
What should blacks be conserving?
Their right to be an American
Their Own resources
Their own energy for their own issues
Their economics
Their family
Their Wealth
Their Education
Their Legacy
But we get mindfucked out of self perservation in and attempt to appear fair and just because weve fought so hard for our own.. So we get told remove your self preservation boundary eventhough you have been violated over and over again
both liberals and conservatives are puppets of the media
we get told blacks are on welfare sucking the system dry
we get told that blacks are criminals whose lives are worthless
white conservatives see this and regurgitate this idealogy
and black conservatives see this and regurgitate this idealogy
when white liberals see this they regurgitate this idealogy with a twist of lets help all whose impacted
when black liberals see this they regurgitate this idealogy with a twist of but its so racist out here they cant help it
we get guilted into accepting everyones community issues as our own because we are told that with everything you have been thru and faught for you have no room to have a boundary to protect yourself anymore and you need to help others achieve the same justice you faught for and on paper that is cute
when blacks say My rights are being violated
ICE supporters say well because your rights were violated take a look at my violation I came in this country illegally and look how I am being treated
When Blacks report a statistic of opression latinos come out and say
yes because you reported your statistic of oppression take a look at our statistic of oppression over here
and when blacks report discrimination
white gays come out and say i hear about ur discrimination but take a look at my discrimination
So now Black Civil Liberties is now
Black and brown and Everyone and Gay
because we fed into the myth that our own self preservation isnt important and that its selfish and it isnt inclusive like we demanded back in the civil rights movement when we were just trying to get basic access as a human being
and this is how we have this illusion that we are more Liberal than we are because we have allowed ourstory to be alligned with anyone and everyone that experiences a hardship
before even fully addressing our own
So the few blacks that say no I belive the bible and i dont want immigrants getting all my hard earned tax dollars and those blacks whining can pull themselves up if they wanted to and i dont have nothing to do with taco i can stand on my own
SO black conservative should be about conserving black first but its just Conservative of resources in general
And black liberal should be about black liberation and freedom of life
not everyone guilting us into carrying and standing with their struggle because they dont have a strong of a history of fighting the system as us with unchanging opression
so there ya go
Quote from: BRockaBaby on June 11, 2020, 07:04:28 PM
It's actually a good watch and there are good points on both sides.
I agree with the need to get rid of this "victim" mentality. I hate it.
The nerve of gay people talking about ditching a "victim" mentality. :kii: