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Title: Do you guys agree? Thoughts?
Post by: Kaeli. on July 12, 2020, 11:04:07 AM
https://twitter.com/wayvjordan/status/1282131926095200256

I disagree personally but I'd love to see what u guys think
Title: Re: Do you guys agree? Thoughts?
Post by: Dr Naomi Campbell on July 12, 2020, 11:05:41 AM
They get privilege from it as well as experience it and also usually enforce it
Imo
Title: Re: Do you guys agree? Thoughts?
Post by: Kaeli. on July 12, 2020, 11:07:19 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on July 12, 2020, 11:05:41 AM
They get privilege from it as well as experience it and also usually enforce it
Imo
i agree with this.

I feel like light skinned people experience it as well but to a much lesser extent. I.e being called weak or feminine (for men)
Title: Re: Do you guys agree? Thoughts?
Post by: CHOKE on July 12, 2020, 11:13:27 AM
What is colorism

Let me look it up a bit 
Title: Re: Do you guys agree? Thoughts?
Post by: CHOKE on July 12, 2020, 11:14:36 AM
I mean yeah within our own race

But who cares if a dark skin girl don't like u

:plzstop:
Title: Re: Do you guys agree? Thoughts?
Post by: Freemala Harris on July 12, 2020, 11:15:06 AM
Quote from: menace to da hood ✊🏾🐺 on July 12, 2020, 11:07:06 AM
people can experience prejudice.

"she must think she cute huh"

"she aint all that! dont know why she think she is! tuh!"

"she's a BITCH. i don't like her."

meanwhile, that person hasn't spoken one word to them. sfsfsfsfssfsf

yea

Hurting your feelings/being ignorant =/= a system of oppresion

aye don't see darker skinned folks having the systematic power (ie systematic racism & white ppl) to literally oppress you

Whereas colorism is rooted in white supremacy and eurocentric beauty standards (the closer to white = better, brown paper bag test, skin bleaching, etc) aka a system imo
Title: Re: Do you guys agree? Thoughts?
Post by: Dr Naomi Campbell on July 12, 2020, 11:20:32 AM
Quote from: menace to da hood ✊🏾🐺 on July 12, 2020, 11:16:47 AM
!

it's always sad to see someone who looks like wesley snipes walking around calling people darkies.
jejjdjdjd I remember in secondary school, it was ALWAYS dark skinned boys calling the dark skinned girls out for being dark
Some of us used to sit there confused...
Ummm but you know you're dark too right?
  :shannonsmissing:


"Yh! BuT she'S dArker"!
:receipts:

Bitch the white kids must've been so damn confused
:damselindistress:
Title: Re: Do you guys agree? Thoughts?
Post by: Freemala Harris on July 12, 2020, 11:26:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alP5msKFX2Q

Coined the "paper bag test," this criterion was used for decades to determine the degree of privilege granted to individual African-Americans all over the United States.


The test was once a notable example of a once-common form of prejudice. Access to social events, jobs, clubs, and schools was often determined by a person's complexion. According to Georgetown sociology professor Michael Eric Dyson, "New Orleans invented the brown paper bag party %u2014 usually at a gathering in a home %u2014 where anyone darker than the bag attached to the door was denied entrance.


"This form of prejudice is not merely an abstract historical construct; many individuals, still alive today, remember vividly the effects of what is now called "colorism," or bias against people with darker skin. For a first-hand account, I spoke to my grandmother, Evelyn Porter, about her experiences as a young African-American woman in Savannah, Georgia in the mid-twentieth century. She told me that "one of the restauranst I can remember... not far from the old courthouse... would advertise for waitresses, and they would have 'light-skinned only.'"

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/education/examining-paper-bag-test-evolved-article-1.2844394
Title: Re: Do you guys agree? Thoughts?
Post by: Vonc2002 on July 12, 2020, 11:26:52 AM
I don't agree. There are actually "light skin problems" too.  And because some black people are so fucked and mentally enslaved,  those problems are often times at the hand of darker melanated black people.  I've NEVER got the color thing but I guess that's because my household is made up of lighter to darker complexions.  My father is "fair skinned" and there was no "u cuter cause u light" shit in my home.  I feel for people with those kinda issues and insecurities
Title: Re: Do you guys agree? Thoughts?
Post by: Vonc2002 on July 12, 2020, 11:28:21 AM
Quote from: menace to da hood ✊🏾🐺 on July 12, 2020, 11:07:06 AM
people can experience prejudice.

"she must think she cute huh"

"she aint all that! dont know why she think she is! tuh!"

"she's a BITCH. i don't like her."

meanwhile, that person hasn't spoken one word to them. sfsfsfsfssfsf

that's the other side of colorism IMO.
YUP! U ain't black ENOUGH! And all that shit
Title: Re: Do you guys agree? Thoughts?
Post by: Dr Naomi Campbell on July 12, 2020, 11:31:49 AM
Quote from: menace to da hood ✊🏾🐺 on July 12, 2020, 11:26:19 AM
Quote from: Jayda X on July 12, 2020, 11:20:32 AM
Quote from: menace to da hood ✊🏾🐺 on July 12, 2020, 11:16:47 AM
!

it's always sad to see someone who looks like wesley snipes walking around calling people darkies.
jejjdjdjd I remember in secondary school, it was ALWAYS dark skinned boys calling the dark skinned girls out for being dark
Some of us used to sit there confused...
Ummm but you know you're dark too right?
  :shannonsmissing:


"Yh! BuT she'S dArker"!
:receipts:

Bitch the white kids must've been so damn confused
:damselindistress:
ultimately i feel bad for people like that cuz clearly they've internalized something very toxic

and the whole skin color thing is so subjective and relative in many cases

one may be the "lightest" in their family so they're called "light skin" by family members
but may walk aside and have people looking like :udontlookok: once they identify themselves as such

same for "darker" people.

then we have the whole Starbucks color coding system
all sorts of mochachinnos, and fraps, and hints of caramel, two teaspoons of milk, etc.
msskskdjdkdkj
The whole Starbucks colour code mess stems from cosmetic colours names  for POC
I've only seen Lew refer to himself as caramel crunch or whatever the fuck it is  :dead:
Title: Re: Do you guys agree? Thoughts?
Post by: Dr Naomi Campbell on July 12, 2020, 11:39:35 AM
Well I'm a French coffee with a splash of diary milk milked from cows that live in the golden fields in Italy which only graze on caviar and champagne brought in on jets from Dubai
Title: Re: Do you guys agree? Thoughts?
Post by: RAY7 on July 12, 2020, 12:15:40 PM
colorism isnt exactly the same as racism, so i say yes lights can be victims
its much less often though
Title: Re: Do you guys agree? Thoughts?
Post by: Lane Bryant Jumpsuit on July 12, 2020, 03:18:57 PM
Quote from: Free Sawayama on July 12, 2020, 11:15:06 AM
Quote from: menace to da hood ✊🏾🐺 on July 12, 2020, 11:07:06 AM
people can experience prejudice.

"she must think she cute huh"

"she aint all that! dont know why she think she is! tuh!"

"she's a BITCH. i don't like her."

meanwhile, that person hasn't spoken one word to them. sfsfsfsfssfsf

yea

Hurting your feelings/being ignorant =/= a system of oppresion

aye don't see darker skinned folks having the systematic power (ie systematic racism & white ppl) to literally oppress you

Whereas colorism is rooted in white supremacy and eurocentric beauty standards (the closer to white = better, brown paper bag test, skin bleaching, etc) aka a system imo


Thats iust dark insecurity speaking

Black ppul of all shades experience colorism

Unless they are white passing

Its on both sides
Title: Re: Do you guys agree? Thoughts?
Post by: Bentley. HARRIS! on July 12, 2020, 03:24:37 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on July 12, 2020, 11:04:07 AM
https://twitter.com/wayvjordan/status/1282131926095200256

I disagree personally but I'd love to see what u guys think
Yea I disagree wholeheartedly (and honestly, I feel like anybody who thinks this way is a monkey)

Do they not know that Homer Plessy in Plessy v Ferguson was 1/8 black?!!  :uhh:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/95/ef/a0/95efa0d27722bf9efc34beec044c5946.jpg)
(https://www.sunsigns.org/famousbirthdays/d/images/pics/homer-plessy-0.jpg)

like ... blacks didn't make the one drop rule, whites did!

I hate when sooty niggers that hate the fact they resemble a heap of TAR create more division by being envious and hateful. Love your charcoal skin, lotion it, and keep it beautiful, maybe you wouldn't hate light skin
Title: Re: Do you guys agree? Thoughts?
Post by: LOONA. on July 12, 2020, 06:10:33 PM
Who said dark insecurity 
Title: Re: Do you guys agree? Thoughts?
Post by: Cartierline on July 12, 2020, 06:21:58 PM
I disagree.

Makes as much sense as white people can't experience racism.
Title: Re: Do you guys agree? Thoughts?
Post by: I. Hate. Monica. on July 12, 2020, 06:22:33 PM
of course they can
Title: Re: Do you guys agree? Thoughts?
Post by: b7 on July 12, 2020, 07:56:48 PM
Quote from: Jayda X on July 12, 2020, 11:20:32 AM
Quote from: menace to da hood ✊🏾🐺 on July 12, 2020, 11:16:47 AM
!

it's always sad to see someone who looks like wesley snipes walking around calling people darkies.
jejjdjdjd I remember in secondary school, it was ALWAYS dark skinned boys calling the dark skinned girls out for being dark
Some of us used to sit there confused...
Ummm but you know you're dark too right?
  :shannonsmissing:


"Yh! BuT she'S dArker"!
:receipts:

Bitch the white kids must've been so damn confused
:damselindistress:
:plzstop:

JESUS.  Fucking crackers did a number on us
Title: Re: Do you guys agree? Thoughts?
Post by: Lane Bryant Jumpsuit on July 12, 2020, 09:57:18 PM
Quote from: Bentley. THE Moderator. on July 12, 2020, 03:24:37 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on July 12, 2020, 11:04:07 AM
https://twitter.com/wayvjordan/status/1282131926095200256

I disagree personally but I'd love to see what u guys think
Yea I disagree wholeheartedly (and honestly, I feel like anybody who thinks this way is a monkey)

Do they not know that Homer Plessy in Plessy v Ferguson was 1/8 black?!!  :uhh:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/95/ef/a0/95efa0d27722bf9efc34beec044c5946.jpg)
(https://www.sunsigns.org/famousbirthdays/d/images/pics/homer-plessy-0.jpg)

like ... blacks didn't make the one drop rule, whites did!

I hate when sooty niggers that hate the fact they resemble a heap of TAR create more division by being envious and hateful. Love your charcoal skin, lotion it, and keep it beautiful, maybe you wouldn't hate light skin

I agree

the plessy vs ferguson case is funny he was passing untill he told them and then they were like wait nigger
Title: Re: Do you guys agree? Thoughts?
Post by: Lane Bryant Jumpsuit on July 12, 2020, 09:59:43 PM
Quote from: RIGs on July 12, 2020, 07:56:48 PM
Quote from: Jayda X on July 12, 2020, 11:20:32 AM
Quote from: menace to da hood ✊🏾🐺 on July 12, 2020, 11:16:47 AM
!

it's always sad to see someone who looks like wesley snipes walking around calling people darkies.
jejjdjdjd I remember in secondary school, it was ALWAYS dark skinned boys calling the dark skinned girls out for being dark
Some of us used to sit there confused...
Ummm but you know you're dark too right?
  :shannonsmissing:


"Yh! BuT she'S dArker"!
:receipts:

Bitch the white kids must've been so damn confused
:damselindistress:
:plzstop:

JESUS.  Fucking crackers did a number on us

yeah i think that came up because of the notion that women are supposed to be soft and beautiful and men are supposed to be hard and rugged
and for some reason being dark isnt seen as soft and beautiful
so dark skin men feel its okay for them to be dark because black ugly and rough is thier thing
but a woman needs to soften it up
Title: Re: Do you guys agree? Thoughts?
Post by: Vonc2002 on July 12, 2020, 10:10:48 PM
Quote from: RIGs on July 12, 2020, 07:56:48 PM
Quote from: Jayda X on July 12, 2020, 11:20:32 AM
Quote from: menace to da hood ✊🏾🐺 on July 12, 2020, 11:16:47 AM
!

it's always sad to see someone who looks like wesley snipes walking around calling people darkies.
jejjdjdjd I remember in secondary school, it was ALWAYS dark skinned boys calling the dark skinned girls out for being dark
Some of us used to sit there confused...
Ummm but you know you're dark too right?
  :shannonsmissing:


"Yh! BuT she'S dArker"!
:receipts:

Bitch the white kids must've been so damn confused
:damselindistress:
:plzstop:

JESUS.  Fucking crackers did a number on us
And tbh we've done a number on OURSELVES! It's one thing for white people to feel what they feel but ULTIMATELY fck them. It's us who continue to uphold and regard anti black think. It's even worse for black women (especially darker skinned women). Dark men can be sexy and MANLY and fetishized and all that other bullshit, but the women are just DIRT! Like that one fag that just questioned jill Scott's attractiveness.  I'm so glad the internet tore him to shreds