How would y'all describe the overall sound of b7? Like, Full Moon had a futuristic techno sound, Human was inspirational pop. What's b7?
Dark healing R&B
Androgynous
Abstract R&B
Avant Garde R&B
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on August 30, 2020, 06:06:41 PM
Quote from: Demetri Merrick 🤴🏾 on August 30, 2020, 06:01:49 PM
Androgynous
Lol. Explain?
LMao it's kinda hard for me to explain because I haven't listen to a lot of those type artists but the only way I can sum it up is FREE. Not being tied down to just one sound or genre. That's what I believe she was going for.
Atmospheric rnb. Atleast the first half of the album. It sort of sounded she was suspended in air and floating.
Now the second half of the album has a totally different feel to it. It was more of a contemporary-ish style.
Quote from: bynm36 on August 30, 2020, 06:33:57 PM
Atmospheric rnb. Atleast the first half of the album. It sort of sounded she was suspended in air and floating.
Now the second half of the album has a totally different feel to it. It was more of a contemporary-ish style.
Ooh I like that description, Atmospheric R&B. It does describe the first 8 songs really well. Abstract R&B too. I was thinking that it's also kind of intentionally LoFi sounding (or at least that's what I tell myself so I don't kill Pamper). That would contribute to that atmospheric feel for sure.
I'd call it Future R&B ...
There was House & Bass Music .. now there is also Future House and Future Bass .... to me this is Future R&B
:wub:
It's alternative soul, for me.
Very alternative and experimental. Can't box it into just R&B that's for sure
It's inspirational too. She comes out on the other side by the end of the album. Through all of the dark topics she covered.
Incredible Album for me
Quote from: RIG 7 on August 30, 2020, 07:26:32 PM
It's alternative soul, for me.
Very alternative and experimental. Can't box it into just R&B that's for sure
It's inspirational too. She comes out on the other side by the end of the album. Through all of the dark topics she covered.
Incredible Album for me
:dead: we know King
Alternative soul is another good descriptor too though.
I'm curious, since I know you have a discerning ear, what do you think of the production? You notice the mixing issues or nah? You think it's comparable to her past work?
Love b7 but even I can say that whoever mixed the album needs to be STONED
I made a lil playlist of her music and included some songs from b7 and the difference in quality is too obvious.
It's definitely #7 in her catalog for mixing lol
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on August 30, 2020, 07:43:42 PM
Quote from: RIG 7 on August 30, 2020, 07:26:32 PM
It's alternative soul, for me.
Very alternative and experimental. Can't box it into just R&B that's for sure
It's inspirational too. She comes out on the other side by the end of the album. Through all of the dark topics she covered.
Incredible Album for me
:dead: we know King
Alternative soul is another good descriptor too though.
I'm curious, since I know you have a discerning ear, what do you think of the production? You notice the mixing issues or nah? You think it's comparable to her past work?
yes and i love the way the album is mixed :dead:
Brandy's ear is exceptional lmao if you don't think this album is mixed precisely how she wants it to be mixed than you'd be wrong IMO.
It may not be someone's preference, but it's all intentional. There's a difference. There ain't no issue at all IMO
By the way, it was Co-engineered by a guy that literally works with EVERYONE. He would never put his name on some bullshit
Mixed like Half of the current Hot 100 songs and then some:
https://instagram.com/jaycenjoshua?igshid=pra5nfs09i8n
Whatever the sound is, it's her 3rd or 4th best mess for me
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 30, 2020, 07:50:14 PM
Whatever the sound is, it's her 3rf or 4th best mess for me
!!!!! I love it
I don't have an issue with the way her vocals are mixed on most songs, it's the instrumentation that sounds MUDDY imo
like the beginning of No Tomorrow makes me so angry cuz it's so epic :dead:
Quote from: Lee on August 30, 2020, 07:51:30 PM
I don't have an issue with the way her vocals are mixed on most songs, it's the instrumentation that sounds MUDDY imo
like the beginning of No Tomorrow makes me so angry cuz it's so epic :dead:
Yeah that's what I meant. The production. Her vocals are fine. The beginning of No Tomorrow sounds grainy and LQ af.
Experimental R&B
Or
Alternative R&B
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on August 30, 2020, 07:53:53 PM
Quote from: Lee on August 30, 2020, 07:51:30 PM
I don't have an issue with the way her vocals are mixed on most songs, it's the instrumentation that sounds MUDDY imo
like the beginning of No Tomorrow makes me so angry cuz it's so epic :dead:
Yeah that's what I meant. The production. Her vocals are fine. The beginning of No Tomorrow sounds grainy and LQ af.
Yea I don't use.
I don't think it was a Camper thing either, cuz that ain't even his song lol
It's whoever mixed it. But Bran was a part of the mixing process too so there's no excuse.
Thankfully, the mixing issues don't take that much away from the songs for me
Quote from: RIG 7 on August 30, 2020, 07:50:00 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on August 30, 2020, 07:43:42 PM
Quote from: RIG 7 on August 30, 2020, 07:26:32 PM
It's alternative soul, for me.
Very alternative and experimental. Can't box it into just R&B that's for sure
It's inspirational too. She comes out on the other side by the end of the album. Through all of the dark topics she covered.
Incredible Album for me
:dead: we know King
Alternative soul is another good descriptor too though.
I'm curious, since I know you have a discerning ear, what do you think of the production? You notice the mixing issues or nah? You think it's comparable to her past work?
yes and i love the way the album is mixed :dead:
Brandy's ear is exceptional lmao if you don't think this album is mixed precisely how she wants it to be mixed than you'd be wrong IMO.
It may not be someone's preference, but it's all intentional. There's a difference. There ain't no issue at all IMO
By the way, it was Co-engineered by a guy that literally works with EVERYONE. He would never put his name on some bullshit
Mixed like Half of the current Hot 100 songs and then some:
https://instagram.com/jaycenjoshua?igshid=pra5nfs09i8n
I read this review yesterday and it gave the perception that the sound could've been intentional which isn't too far fetched of a concept
QuoteThe whole set has a slightly coarse-grained quality that heightens the tension expressed in the lyrics, much of which works out grave personal and interpersonal crises
https://www.allmusic.com/album/b7-mw0003393027
And all music isn't some rinky dink mess. Maybe they didn't want some SUPREMELY polished sound. I think that's more likely than girl that's been in the business going on 30 yrs just saying FCK IT and throwing out any ol mess
Quote from: RIG 7 on August 30, 2020, 07:50:00 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on August 30, 2020, 07:43:42 PM
Quote from: RIG 7 on August 30, 2020, 07:26:32 PM
It's alternative soul, for me.
Very alternative and experimental. Can't box it into just R&B that's for sure
It's inspirational too. She comes out on the other side by the end of the album. Through all of the dark topics she covered.
Incredible Album for me
:dead: we know King
Alternative soul is another good descriptor too though.
I'm curious, since I know you have a discerning ear, what do you think of the production? You notice the mixing issues or nah? You think it's comparable to her past work?
yes and i love the way the album is mixed :dead:
Brandy's ear is exceptional lmao if you don't think this album is mixed precisely how she wants it to be mixed than you'd be wrong IMO.
It may not be someone's preference, but it's all intentional. There's a difference. There ain't no issue at all IMO
By the way, it was Co-engineered by a guy that literally works with EVERYONE. He would never put his name on some bullshit
Mixed like Half of the current Hot 100 songs and then some:
https://instagram.com/jaycenjoshua?igshid=pra5nfs09i8n
Rig I think you got your stan goggles on bc it doesn't sound well mixed :dead:
That may have been intentional for some reason but then my question is why make it sound shitty on purpose?
Make it make sense Jesus I need answers!!!!!!
:gorlonfire:
That's funny.
And they gave the album 4.5/5 btw. I don't think the album sounds shitty at all. If u do, then it's not the album for u and just wait on the next :dead:
Quote from: RIG 7 on August 30, 2020, 07:50:00 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on August 30, 2020, 07:43:42 PM
Quote from: RIG 7 on August 30, 2020, 07:26:32 PM
It's alternative soul, for me.
Very alternative and experimental. Can't box it into just R&B that's for sure
It's inspirational too. She comes out on the other side by the end of the album. Through all of the dark topics she covered.
Incredible Album for me
:dead: we know King
Alternative soul is another good descriptor too though.
I'm curious, since I know you have a discerning ear, what do you think of the production? You notice the mixing issues or nah? You think it's comparable to her past work?
yes and i love the way the album is mixed :dead:
Brandy's ear is exceptional lmao if you don't think this album is mixed precisely how she wants it to be mixed than you'd be wrong IMO.
It may not be someone's preference, but it's all intentional. There's a difference. There ain't no issue at all IMO
By the way, it was Co-engineered by a guy that literally works with EVERYONE. He would never put his name on some bullshit
Mixed like Half of the current Hot 100 songs and then some:
https://instagram.com/jaycenjoshua?igshid=pra5nfs09i8n
I guess I'm wondering too why Baby Mama and Love Again sound professionally mixed compared to the rest of the album. I can see if that was the theme but it throws off the aesthetic when two of the songs sound higher quality than the rest.
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on August 30, 2020, 06:39:33 PM
Quote from: bynm36 on August 30, 2020, 06:33:57 PM
Atmospheric rnb. Atleast the first half of the album. It sort of sounded she was suspended in air and floating.
Now the second half of the album has a totally different feel to it. It was more of a contemporary-ish style.
Ooh I like that description, Atmospheric R&B. It does describe the first 8 songs really well. Abstract R&B too. I was thinking that it's also kind of intentionally LoFi sounding (or at least that's what I tell myself so I don't kill Pamper). That would contribute to that atmospheric feel for sure.
:plzstop: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on August 30, 2020, 08:11:30 PM
Quote from: RIG 7 on August 30, 2020, 07:50:00 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on August 30, 2020, 07:43:42 PM
Quote from: RIG 7 on August 30, 2020, 07:26:32 PM
It's alternative soul, for me.
Very alternative and experimental. Can't box it into just R&B that's for sure
It's inspirational too. She comes out on the other side by the end of the album. Through all of the dark topics she covered.
Incredible Album for me
:dead: we know King
Alternative soul is another good descriptor too though.
I'm curious, since I know you have a discerning ear, what do you think of the production? You notice the mixing issues or nah? You think it's comparable to her past work?
yes and i love the way the album is mixed :dead:
Brandy's ear is exceptional lmao if you don't think this album is mixed precisely how she wants it to be mixed than you'd be wrong IMO.
It may not be someone's preference, but it's all intentional. There's a difference. There ain't no issue at all IMO
By the way, it was Co-engineered by a guy that literally works with EVERYONE. He would never put his name on some bullshit
Mixed like Half of the current Hot 100 songs and then some:
https://instagram.com/jaycenjoshua?igshid=pra5nfs09i8n
I guess I'm wondering too why Baby Mama and Love Again sound professionally mixed compared to the rest of the album. I can see if that was the theme but it throws off the aesthetic when two of the songs sound higher quality than the rest.
cause hit boys teams did things differently
and daniel caesars did not go for dequans basement mastering
and this gives me the simpsons when santas lil helper wasnt trained and bart said hey go over there lick that dogs butt
see he listens :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
bran hasnt studying mastering or mixing long enough to know shit about how she wants it
like she said in dc she just know what she wants and she relies on others to execute
well it fucking shows
there are glitches everywhere on the album im not hearing no silly ass bullshit that she sat up there and approved everylast mistake and said it sounds good
stop
Quote from: Lane Bryant Jumpsuit on August 30, 2020, 11:13:18 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on August 30, 2020, 08:11:30 PM
Quote from: RIG 7 on August 30, 2020, 07:50:00 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on August 30, 2020, 07:43:42 PM
Quote from: RIG 7 on August 30, 2020, 07:26:32 PM
It's alternative soul, for me.
Very alternative and experimental. Can't box it into just R&B that's for sure
It's inspirational too. She comes out on the other side by the end of the album. Through all of the dark topics she covered.
Incredible Album for me
:dead: we know King
Alternative soul is another good descriptor too though.
I'm curious, since I know you have a discerning ear, what do you think of the production? You notice the mixing issues or nah? You think it's comparable to her past work?
yes and i love the way the album is mixed :dead:
Brandy's ear is exceptional lmao if you don't think this album is mixed precisely how she wants it to be mixed than you'd be wrong IMO.
It may not be someone's preference, but it's all intentional. There's a difference. There ain't no issue at all IMO
By the way, it was Co-engineered by a guy that literally works with EVERYONE. He would never put his name on some bullshit
Mixed like Half of the current Hot 100 songs and then some:
https://instagram.com/jaycenjoshua?igshid=pra5nfs09i8n
I guess I'm wondering too why Baby Mama and Love Again sound professionally mixed compared to the rest of the album. I can see if that was the theme but it throws off the aesthetic when two of the songs sound higher quality than the rest.
cause hit boys teams did things differently
and daniel caesars did not go for dequans basement mastering
and this gives me the simpsons when santas lil helper wasnt trained and bart said hey go over there lick that dogs butt
see he listens :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
bran hasnt studying mastering or mixing long enough to know shit about how she wants it
like she said in dc she just know what she wants and she relies on others to execute
well it fucking shows
there are glitches everywhere on the album im not hearing no silly ass bullshit that she sat up there and approved everylast mistake and said it sounds good
stop
Y'all know Rig will squeeze an Elephant through a cheerio if he could. I get some things were intentional but there are mixing issues...I think that's why I dnt use No Tomorrow 100% b/c it sounds grainy asf...esp those ad libs on the 2nd chorus when this is the one song that should sound crisp. Just b/c someone is a popular or good engineer doesn't mean they are the best for Bran b/c she has such a particular voice and layers that can go in any direction.
I think some of you are referring to the mastering and not the mixing.All I've noticed is that scratch in the beginning of Rather Be and the beginning of No Tomorrow.
Quote from: rosone1 on August 30, 2020, 11:33:48 PM
I think some of you are referring to the mastering and not the mixing.All I've noticed is that scratch in the beginning of Rather Be and the beginning of No Tomorrow.
What's the difference?
Its too many damn musical terms...just give me the product and make sure that sh** sound good to muah ears :heyddy:
Not an elephant through a cheerio :plzstop:
Quote from: rosone1 on August 30, 2020, 11:33:48 PM
I think some of you are referring to the mastering and not the mixing.All I've noticed is that scratch in the beginning of Rather Be and the beginning of No Tomorrow.
I guess the overall sound of the album is a bit grainy/lacks polish. That would be mastering?
But to my ear Borderline sounds lower/quieter than the rest of the songs, especially with No Tomorrow loud ass swooping in after. That would be the mix then?
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on August 30, 2020, 11:55:12 PM
Quote from: rosone1 on August 30, 2020, 11:33:48 PM
I think some of you are referring to the mastering and not the mixing.All I've noticed is that scratch in the beginning of Rather Be and the beginning of No Tomorrow.
I guess the overall sound of the album is a bit grainy/lacks polish. That would be mastering?
But to my ear Borderline sounds lower/quieter than the rest of the songs, especially with No Tomorrow loud ass swooping in after. That would be the mix then?
Idk all I know is I have to blast the album on 40 in my car just to hear the words lol
Quote from: RIG 7 on August 30, 2020, 07:50:00 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on August 30, 2020, 07:43:42 PM
Quote from: RIG 7 on August 30, 2020, 07:26:32 PM
It's alternative soul, for me.
Very alternative and experimental. Can't box it into just R&B that's for sure
It's inspirational too. She comes out on the other side by the end of the album. Through all of the dark topics she covered.
Incredible Album for me
:dead: we know King
Alternative soul is another good descriptor too though.
I'm curious, since I know you have a discerning ear, what do you think of the production? You notice the mixing issues or nah? You think it's comparable to her past work?
yes and i love the way the album is mixed :dead:
Brandy's ear is exceptional lmao if you don't think this album is mixed precisely how she wants it to be mixed than you'd be wrong IMO.
It may not be someone's preference, but it's all intentional. There's a difference. There ain't no issue at all IMO
By the way, it was Co-engineered by a guy that literally works with EVERYONE. He would never put his name on some bullshit
Mixed like Half of the current Hot 100 songs and then some:
https://instagram.com/jaycenjoshua?igshid=pra5nfs09i8n
Love you king, but nah :dead:
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Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on August 30, 2020, 11:55:12 PM
Quote from: rosone1 on August 30, 2020, 11:33:48 PM
I think some of you are referring to the mastering and not the mixing.All I've noticed is that scratch in the beginning of Rather Be and the beginning of No Tomorrow.
I guess the overall sound of the album is a bit grainy/lacks polish. That would be mastering?
But to my ear Borderline sounds lower/quieter than the rest of the songs, especially with No Tomorrow loud ass swooping in after. That would be the mix then?
Idk all I know is I have to blast the album on 40 in my car just to hear the words lol
:plzstop:
Quote from: rosone1 on August 30, 2020, 11:33:48 PM
I think some of you are referring to the mastering and not the mixing.All I've noticed is that scratch in the beginning of Rather Be and the beginning of No Tomorrow.
No not really because if you take the sound level differences on I am more and no tomorrow
"she can do what i can do"
and
"why i still feel so deep like back at the altar"
both of these vocal comps were not properly leveled with the rest of the leads during mixing
mastering cannot fix that because it addresses the mix as a whole
for other reasons
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on August 30, 2020, 11:55:12 PM
Quote from: rosone1 on August 30, 2020, 11:33:48 PM
I think some of you are referring to the mastering and not the mixing.All I've noticed is that scratch in the beginning of Rather Be and the beginning of No Tomorrow.
I guess the overall sound of the album is a bit grainy/lacks polish. That would be mastering?
But to my ear Borderline sounds lower/quieter than the rest of the songs, especially with No Tomorrow loud ass swooping in after. That would be the mix then?
switched around
How two songs are mixed should be leveled out a bit when you master both because the master if its going to be on the same album should not have stark sound differences despite being 2 separate mixes
so the one being louder than the other is a mastering issue as well as track placement issue
which storyline wise its a dumb choice anyway to put no tomorrow after borderline
and that funky chime thats supposed to tie em together seamlessly annoys me
Quote from: JCJ on August 31, 2020, 12:21:39 AM
Quote from: RIG 7 on August 30, 2020, 07:50:00 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on August 30, 2020, 07:43:42 PM
Quote from: RIG 7 on August 30, 2020, 07:26:32 PM
It's alternative soul, for me.
Very alternative and experimental. Can't box it into just R&B that's for sure
It's inspirational too. She comes out on the other side by the end of the album. Through all of the dark topics she covered.
Incredible Album for me
:dead: we know King
Alternative soul is another good descriptor too though.
I'm curious, since I know you have a discerning ear, what do you think of the production? You notice the mixing issues or nah? You think it's comparable to her past work?
yes and i love the way the album is mixed :dead:
Brandy's ear is exceptional lmao if you don't think this album is mixed precisely how she wants it to be mixed than you'd be wrong IMO.
It may not be someone's preference, but it's all intentional. There's a difference. There ain't no issue at all IMO
By the way, it was Co-engineered by a guy that literally works with EVERYONE. He would never put his name on some bullshit
Mixed like Half of the current Hot 100 songs and then some:
https://instagram.com/jaycenjoshua?igshid=pra5nfs09i8n
Love you king, but nah :dead:
everything about this album gives mixtape budget
which is crazy but
brandy simply trusted to many ppul
i dont doubt Jacens abilities
but the way she kept going back and re arranging shit
I think he did the best he could with what he had
and it seems like mastering the ball was just dropped
Experimental R&B basically. I wish we could get an experimental pop record from Bran :uhm:
Quote from: Lane Bryant Jumpsuit on August 31, 2020, 12:58:56 AM
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Quote from: RIG 7 on August 30, 2020, 07:26:32 PM
It's alternative soul, for me.
Very alternative and experimental. Can't box it into just R&B that's for sure
It's inspirational too. She comes out on the other side by the end of the album. Through all of the dark topics she covered.
Incredible Album for me
:dead: we know King
Alternative soul is another good descriptor too though.
I'm curious, since I know you have a discerning ear, what do you think of the production? You notice the mixing issues or nah? You think it's comparable to her past work?
yes and i love the way the album is mixed :dead:
Brandy's ear is exceptional lmao if you don't think this album is mixed precisely how she wants it to be mixed than you'd be wrong IMO.
It may not be someone's preference, but it's all intentional. There's a difference. There ain't no issue at all IMO
By the way, it was Co-engineered by a guy that literally works with EVERYONE. He would never put his name on some bullshit
Mixed like Half of the current Hot 100 songs and then some:
https://instagram.com/jaycenjoshua?igshid=pra5nfs09i8n
Love you king, but nah :dead:
everything about this album gives mixtape budget
which is crazy but
brandy simply trusted to many ppul
i dont doubt Jacens abilities
but the way she kept going back and re arranging shit
I think he did the best he could with what he had
and it seems like mastering the ball was just dropped
Yeah I guess I'm still kinda reeling that after an 8 year wait and them working on this album for over 3 the overall quality is pretty lacking. It's disappointing, but nothing to do about it now. Hopefully it's addressed in future efforts. Keeping camper around doesn't instill much confidence though given that the quality of most of his music is similar to this and he doesn't really seem like the most detail oriented person :dead:
Oh well. I just feel better I'm not the only one hearing this or being too nitpicky. Really I just think Bran deserves the BEST and the quality of this album is beneath her. Happy she's getting her flowers and she's happy tho ♥️
Quote from: 123 on August 31, 2020, 01:15:55 AM
Experimental R&B basically. I wish we could get an experimental pop record from Bran :uhm:
.
Like Sweet Nothings style? God I would die for that :plzstop: