Mariah’s mom and sister both die on same day

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Quote from: Son of Brazil on September 02, 2024, 11:39:06 AM
Quote from: BruceTruMusicFan on September 02, 2024, 11:34:17 AM
Quote from: Amazing on September 01, 2024, 08:51:45 PMWould you want a crack head who tried to pimp you out as a kid near your family and small children?

I don't blame Mariah at all for keeping her distance. Some people are too toxic to be around.

Nevertheless, this is heartbreaking for Mariah I'm sure. She was in a better place with her mom and I'm sure she still loved her sister despite the toxicity.

I would want to know what happened to my sister that she ended up as such a tragedy. Mariah, talks about dealing with racism in her book as a biracial person yet her sister was 10 years older so I imagine it was much worst for her. I believe hers sister has also said that she was molested as a child. Mariah write about their father being more violent to her older siblings than to her.

One thing I noticed about Mariah's book is that while her childhood was tough but her adult life was fairly easy. She's been signed since 19. Even in her book and interviews she eludes to not understanding how other singers can sing songs they did not write. And its like, well everyone is not blessed with that gift.

A lot of celebrities start to think that exceptionalism is the norm. Everyone didn't have that voice, the drive, the looks. Most people who come from traumatic lives struggle their entire lives, they end up EXACTLY like her sister. It's not hard to show people grace, even if they have hurt you. Be thank you that you did not turn out that way. It's called compassion. If I was worth 500 million my family would always be cared for.
i think it's easier and simpler to say "thats your sister talk to her and help her"

and personally i could never see myself distancing myself from my siblings, so i get it.

but only Mariah REALLY knows what's happened between she and her sister.
im almost certain theres a LOT she's keeping to herself.

and there is such a thing as some people simply being "beyond the point of help", no matter how much you try to help them. at some point you may have to make the difficult decision to choose yourself and what seems best for you over them.

there's a documented, confirmed history of Mariah suffering from her own mental health challenges. Bipolar, etc.
i can imagine there were plenty of times she wasn't even in the position to help HERSELF, let alone her sister.

I agree, but money changes everything. How would Mariah have navigated her own mental health struggles if she was poor? Probably with someone like crack. If I was worth 500 million, I would make sure my family always has access to care, even IF I no longer spoke to them.

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September 02, 2024, 12:38:35 PM #31 Last Edit: September 02, 2024, 12:47:00 PM by Son of Brazil
Quote from: BruceTruMusicFan on September 02, 2024, 12:36:46 PM
Quote from: Son of Brazil on September 02, 2024, 11:39:06 AM
Quote from: BruceTruMusicFan on September 02, 2024, 11:34:17 AM
Quote from: Amazing on September 01, 2024, 08:51:45 PMWould you want a crack head who tried to pimp you out as a kid near your family and small children?

I don't blame Mariah at all for keeping her distance. Some people are too toxic to be around.

Nevertheless, this is heartbreaking for Mariah I'm sure. She was in a better place with her mom and I'm sure she still loved her sister despite the toxicity.

I would want to know what happened to my sister that she ended up as such a tragedy. Mariah, talks about dealing with racism in her book as a biracial person yet her sister was 10 years older so I imagine it was much worst for her. I believe hers sister has also said that she was molested as a child. Mariah write about their father being more violent to her older siblings than to her.

One thing I noticed about Mariah's book is that while her childhood was tough but her adult life was fairly easy. She's been signed since 19. Even in her book and interviews she eludes to not understanding how other singers can sing songs they did not write. And its like, well everyone is not blessed with that gift.

A lot of celebrities start to think that exceptionalism is the norm. Everyone didn't have that voice, the drive, the looks. Most people who come from traumatic lives struggle their entire lives, they end up EXACTLY like her sister. It's not hard to show people grace, even if they have hurt you. Be thank you that you did not turn out that way. It's called compassion. If I was worth 500 million my family would always be cared for.
i think it's easier and simpler to say "thats your sister talk to her and help her"

and personally i could never see myself distancing myself from my siblings, so i get it.

but only Mariah REALLY knows what's happened between she and her sister.
im almost certain theres a LOT she's keeping to herself.

and there is such a thing as some people simply being "beyond the point of help", no matter how much you try to help them. at some point you may have to make the difficult decision to choose yourself and what seems best for you over them.

there's a documented, confirmed history of Mariah suffering from her own mental health challenges. Bipolar, etc.
i can imagine there were plenty of times she wasn't even in the position to help HERSELF, let alone her sister.

I agree, but money changes everything. How would Mariah have navigated her own mental health struggles if she was poor? Probably with someone like crack. If I was worth 500 million, I would make sure my family always has access to care, even IF I no longer spoke to them.
She may very well have sent money to her family

but if celebs who are worth millions and have financial advisors can spend their money up quickly on foolishness

i can only imagine what happens with small fractions of money being sent to family that have substance abuse issues, etc.

it's probably spent as fast as its sent, then they're knocking for more cuz they know you have it. at some point another difficult decision may have to be made...to break certain cycles which are producing results for no one.

the person has to want to help themselves and commit to it.

but the person who is in the "better position" will always be held responsible and blamed - which is kinda unfair, especially in the potential absence of very important context.
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Quote from: BruceTruMusicFan on September 02, 2024, 12:36:46 PM
Quote from: Son of Brazil on September 02, 2024, 11:39:06 AM
Quote from: BruceTruMusicFan on September 02, 2024, 11:34:17 AM
Quote from: Amazing on September 01, 2024, 08:51:45 PMWould you want a crack head who tried to pimp you out as a kid near your family and small children?

I don't blame Mariah at all for keeping her distance. Some people are too toxic to be around.

Nevertheless, this is heartbreaking for Mariah I'm sure. She was in a better place with her mom and I'm sure she still loved her sister despite the toxicity.

I would want to know what happened to my sister that she ended up as such a tragedy. Mariah, talks about dealing with racism in her book as a biracial person yet her sister was 10 years older so I imagine it was much worst for her. I believe hers sister has also said that she was molested as a child. Mariah write about their father being more violent to her older siblings than to her.

One thing I noticed about Mariah's book is that while her childhood was tough but her adult life was fairly easy. She's been signed since 19. Even in her book and interviews she eludes to not understanding how other singers can sing songs they did not write. And its like, well everyone is not blessed with that gift.

A lot of celebrities start to think that exceptionalism is the norm. Everyone didn't have that voice, the drive, the looks. Most people who come from traumatic lives struggle their entire lives, they end up EXACTLY like her sister. It's not hard to show people grace, even if they have hurt you. Be thank you that you did not turn out that way. It's called compassion. If I was worth 500 million my family would always be cared for.
i think it's easier and simpler to say "thats your sister talk to her and help her"

and personally i could never see myself distancing myself from my siblings, so i get it.

but only Mariah REALLY knows what's happened between she and her sister.
im almost certain theres a LOT she's keeping to herself.

and there is such a thing as some people simply being "beyond the point of help", no matter how much you try to help them. at some point you may have to make the difficult decision to choose yourself and what seems best for you over them.

there's a documented, confirmed history of Mariah suffering from her own mental health challenges. Bipolar, etc.
i can imagine there were plenty of times she wasn't even in the position to help HERSELF, let alone her sister.

I agree, but money changes everything. How would Mariah have navigated her own mental health struggles if she was poor? Probably with someone like crack. If I was worth 500 million, I would make sure my family always has access to care, even IF I no longer spoke to them.

Money isn't the cure for addiction.  We see how many celebrities that have money and live/die tragic lives.  Sometimes, you have to cut off family for your own mental health.

BruceTruMusicFan

Quote from: BetterAngels on September 02, 2024, 01:54:03 PM
Quote from: BruceTruMusicFan on September 02, 2024, 12:36:46 PM
Quote from: Son of Brazil on September 02, 2024, 11:39:06 AM
Quote from: BruceTruMusicFan on September 02, 2024, 11:34:17 AM
Quote from: Amazing on September 01, 2024, 08:51:45 PMWould you want a crack head who tried to pimp you out as a kid near your family and small children?

I don't blame Mariah at all for keeping her distance. Some people are too toxic to be around.

Nevertheless, this is heartbreaking for Mariah I'm sure. She was in a better place with her mom and I'm sure she still loved her sister despite the toxicity.

I would want to know what happened to my sister that she ended up as such a tragedy. Mariah, talks about dealing with racism in her book as a biracial person yet her sister was 10 years older so I imagine it was much worst for her. I believe hers sister has also said that she was molested as a child. Mariah write about their father being more violent to her older siblings than to her.

One thing I noticed about Mariah's book is that while her childhood was tough but her adult life was fairly easy. She's been signed since 19. Even in her book and interviews she eludes to not understanding how other singers can sing songs they did not write. And its like, well everyone is not blessed with that gift.

A lot of celebrities start to think that exceptionalism is the norm. Everyone didn't have that voice, the drive, the looks. Most people who come from traumatic lives struggle their entire lives, they end up EXACTLY like her sister. It's not hard to show people grace, even if they have hurt you. Be thank you that you did not turn out that way. It's called compassion. If I was worth 500 million my family would always be cared for.
i think it's easier and simpler to say "thats your sister talk to her and help her"

and personally i could never see myself distancing myself from my siblings, so i get it.

but only Mariah REALLY knows what's happened between she and her sister.
im almost certain theres a LOT she's keeping to herself.

and there is such a thing as some people simply being "beyond the point of help", no matter how much you try to help them. at some point you may have to make the difficult decision to choose yourself and what seems best for you over them.

there's a documented, confirmed history of Mariah suffering from her own mental health challenges. Bipolar, etc.
i can imagine there were plenty of times she wasn't even in the position to help HERSELF, let alone her sister.

I agree, but money changes everything. How would Mariah have navigated her own mental health struggles if she was poor? Probably with someone like crack. If I was worth 500 million, I would make sure my family always has access to care, even IF I no longer spoke to them.

Money isn't the cure for addiction.  We see how many celebrities that have money and live/die tragic lives.  Sometimes, you have to cut off family for your own mental health.

That I understand, and while I'm sure money can make things worst, I feel in general it makes things better. Take Whitney Houston for example, without money she would have been the out of her mind lady that is walking about the hood on crack. We can't picture that because money and fame kept her from hitting rock bottom.

RAY7

Honestly I think the most sensible response to this situation is just sending positive thoughts and prayers to the family. A sibling is not responsible for their grown siblings. There's nothing Mariah could have done in this situation for her sister because her sister is responsible for herself and couldn't help herself.
She could send money and the money would be wasted. She could put her in rehab and her sister could leave or just relapse as soon as the stint was over. It's just pointless. God Bless their family cuz I know this is devastating

BetterAngels

Quote from: RAY7 on September 02, 2024, 05:06:52 PMHonestly I think the most sensible response to this situation is just sending positive thoughts and prayers to the family. A sibling is not responsible for their grown siblings. There's nothing Mariah could have done in this situation for her sister because her sister is responsible for herself and couldn't help herself.
She could send money and the money would be wasted. She could put her in rehab and her sister could leave or just relapse as soon as the stint was over. It's just pointless. God Bless their family cuz I know this is devastating

Yep, I remember when people were getting on Lil Nas X about his mom, and he basically said that he had tried all he could to help her, but she has to want help for herself.

BruceTruMusicFan

Quote from: RAY7 on September 02, 2024, 05:06:52 PMHonestly I think the most sensible response to this situation is just sending positive thoughts and prayers to the family. A sibling is not responsible for their grown siblings. There's nothing Mariah could have done in this situation for her sister because her sister is responsible for herself and couldn't help herself.
She could send money and the money would be wasted. She could put her in rehab and her sister could leave or just relapse as soon as the stint was over. It's just pointless. God Bless their family cuz I know this is devastating

Rich people don't send money, which is why I said that if I was wealthy I would make sure they have access to housing and care. This is very different, and it does not mean sending them unlimited funds.

We are talking about people who waste massive amounts of money each day, not normal folks.

RAY7

Quote from: BruceTruMusicFan on September 03, 2024, 12:47:45 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on September 02, 2024, 05:06:52 PMHonestly I think the most sensible response to this situation is just sending positive thoughts and prayers to the family. A sibling is not responsible for their grown siblings. There's nothing Mariah could have done in this situation for her sister because her sister is responsible for herself and couldn't help herself.
She could send money and the money would be wasted. She could put her in rehab and her sister could leave or just relapse as soon as the stint was over. It's just pointless. God Bless their family cuz I know this is devastating

Rich people don't send money, which is why I said that if I was wealthy I would make sure they have access to housing and care. This is very different, and it does not mean sending them unlimited funds.

We are talking about people who waste massive amounts of money each day, not normal folks.
so  how do you "make sure" this adult keeps the house? What if you buy the house and the adult doesn't stay there? Or this is a drug addict we're speaking on what if they bring drugs in the house?
Then you gave them access to housing and care for nothing?