Afro Cuz I owe you an apology

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My sis done a my heritage DNA test recently and she is 2.6% Ashkanazi Jew 1.2% Scandinavian and 19% North African.

I'm Jewish too.
 :nogrammynoneck:

Mind you we thought we were 100% East African but she is only 72.4% East African.

What da fuck does that mean?

She also did a 23andme test which obly looks at the past couple of hundred years and she was 99.9% East African.

Would my results be different to hers because I'm male? Supposedly male East African DNA has more Middle Eastern percentages.

Amazing

Also 1.1% native American. Da fuck?  :uhh:

The Only BLACK Kalmyks

February 21, 2023, 08:00:40 AM #2 Last Edit: February 21, 2023, 08:06:43 AM by Rio de Atlanta
i'd say find out who the ancestors are and what grandparent(s) it's coming from.

it's one thing to have percentages but it's another to actually know ur family history

to me that's the difference between DNA and heritage.
to know their faces and to know their names. that's what is most important to me personally

if the ancestry is relatively close you'll be able to make these connections for sure.

and look for consistencies among multiple tests.
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Significant Discovery: First known Black American family of Kalmyk descent

Takeaways: Be prepared to pivot, even when you think you're on the right track. Be OK with being wrong so you can get things right.

Kalmyks are tribal Mongolic people who settled in Russia. It's estimated that only 300,000 Kalmyk descendants exist worldwide - with only 3,000 in America.



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Amazing

Quote from: Rio de Atlanta on February 21, 2023, 08:00:40 AMi'd say find out who the ancestors are and what grandparent(s) it's coming from.

it's one thing to have percentages but it's another to actually know ur family history

to me that's the difference between DNA and heritage.
to know their faces and to know their names. that's what is most important to me personally

if the ancestry is relatively close you'll be able to make these connections for sure.

and look for consistencies among multiple tests.

My grandparents used to say we are 100% East African and proud. There aren't any records and they are all dead.
 :cheerup:

The Only BLACK Kalmyks

February 21, 2023, 08:22:04 AM #4 Last Edit: February 21, 2023, 07:08:33 PM by Rio de Atlanta
Quote from: Amazing on February 21, 2023, 08:09:33 AM
Quote from: Rio de Atlanta on February 21, 2023, 08:00:40 AMi'd say find out who the ancestors are and what grandparent(s) it's coming from.

it's one thing to have percentages but it's another to actually know ur family history

to me that's the difference between DNA and heritage.
to know their faces and to know their names. that's what is most important to me personally

if the ancestry is relatively close you'll be able to make these connections for sure.

and look for consistencies among multiple tests.

My grandparents used to say we are 100% East African and proud. There aren't any records and they are all dead.
 :cheerup:
East Africans (or some ethnic groups within the east african population) , from what I know , have somewhat similar ancestry to Jews as they have close proximity to the Middle East and tend to have ancestry from there.

as i shared here before a long time ago before i even knew I had jewish heritage, people have come to me with pics of  east african men they came across on the internet saying that they look like me. and thats not because i'm east african, but it could just be the mixture of african and some middle eastern ancestry (Israel) that creates a similar "look" .

I've also heard "Egyptian" which again is not where I'm from and initially seemed random af to me but makes sense to me now that a couple people may see that now that I know I actually have ancestry from that general MENA (Middle East North African) region . More specifically Israel .

So I do believe Jews and ethnic groups of East African may share similarities

that middle eastern ancestry that many east africans have could be what your sister's test is picking up as "Ashkenazi Jew".

it's important to remember that sometimes tests can misinterpret things. that's why I say it's always best to at LEAST test with 4-5 companies and look for consistencies before taking it as something that could be true or worth exploring.

especially for relatively smaller percentages - which can sometimes simply be noise.



Project started: 2014 Wrapped up: 2024

Significant Discovery: First known Black American family of Kalmyk descent

Takeaways: Be prepared to pivot, even when you think you're on the right track. Be OK with being wrong so you can get things right.

Kalmyks are tribal Mongolic people who settled in Russia. It's estimated that only 300,000 Kalmyk descendants exist worldwide - with only 3,000 in America.



Grandpa and his Grandma ❤️

Amazing

Quote from: Rio de Atlanta on February 21, 2023, 08:22:04 AM
Quote from: Amazing on February 21, 2023, 08:09:33 AM
Quote from: Rio de Atlanta on February 21, 2023, 08:00:40 AMi'd say find out who the ancestors are and what grandparent(s) it's coming from.

it's one thing to have percentages but it's another to actually know ur family history

to me that's the difference between DNA and heritage.
to know their faces and to know their names. that's what is most important to me personally

if the ancestry is relatively close you'll be able to make these connections for sure.

and look for consistencies among multiple tests.

My grandparents used to say we are 100% East African and proud. There aren't any records and they are all dead.
 :cheerup:
East Africans (or some ethnic groups within the east african population) , from what I know , have somewhat similar ancestry to Jews as they have close proximity to the Middle East and tend to have ancestry from there.

as i shared here before a long time ago before i even knew I had jewish heritage, people have come to me with pics of  east african men they came across on the internet saying that they look like me. and thats not because i'm east african, but it could just be the mixture of african and some middle eastern ancestry (Israel) that creates a similar "look" .

I've also heard "Egyptian" which again is not where I'm from and initially seemed random af to me but makes sense to me now that a couple people may see that now that I know I actually have ancestry from that general MENA (Middle East North African) region . More specifically Israel .

So I do believe Jews and ethnic groups of East African may share similarities

that middle eastern ancestry that many east africans have could be what your sister's test is picking up as "Ashkenazi Jew".

it's important to remember that sometimes tests can misinterpret things. that's why I say it's always best to at LEAST test with 4-5 companies and look for consistencies before taking it as something that could be true or worth exploring.

especially for relatively smaller percentages - which can sometimes simply be noise.





Interesting.

I was very interested in the over 19% North African part because I have an affinity with North Africans (Moroccans/Tunisians/Egyptians etc) and I always love travelling there. I have always felt a connection there. With their history and culture.

Also whenever I go to Egypt they all think I'm from Southern Egypt and tell me I'm lieing when I say I'm not.

I should not be that surprised because North and East Africans have been trading for thousands of years. The ancient Egyptians even used to say that the Gods come from East Africa.

The Only BLACK Kalmyks

February 22, 2023, 03:46:04 AM #6 Last Edit: February 22, 2023, 04:30:19 AM by Rio de Atlanta
Quote from: Amazing on February 22, 2023, 02:40:15 AM
Quote from: Rio de Atlanta on February 21, 2023, 08:22:04 AM
Quote from: Amazing on February 21, 2023, 08:09:33 AM
Quote from: Rio de Atlanta on February 21, 2023, 08:00:40 AMi'd say find out who the ancestors are and what grandparent(s) it's coming from.

it's one thing to have percentages but it's another to actually know ur family history

to me that's the difference between DNA and heritage.
to know their faces and to know their names. that's what is most important to me personally

if the ancestry is relatively close you'll be able to make these connections for sure.

and look for consistencies among multiple tests.

My grandparents used to say we are 100% East African and proud. There aren't any records and they are all dead.
 :cheerup:
East Africans (or some ethnic groups within the east african population) , from what I know , have somewhat similar ancestry to Jews as they have close proximity to the Middle East and tend to have ancestry from there.

as i shared here before a long time ago before i even knew I had jewish heritage, people have come to me with pics of  east african men they came across on the internet saying that they look like me. and thats not because i'm east african, but it could just be the mixture of african and some middle eastern ancestry (Israel) that creates a similar "look" .

I've also heard "Egyptian" which again is not where I'm from and initially seemed random af to me but makes sense to me now that a couple people may see that now that I know I actually have ancestry from that general MENA (Middle East North African) region . More specifically Israel .

So I do believe Jews and ethnic groups of East African may share similarities

that middle eastern ancestry that many east africans have could be what your sister's test is picking up as "Ashkenazi Jew".

it's important to remember that sometimes tests can misinterpret things. that's why I say it's always best to at LEAST test with 4-5 companies and look for consistencies before taking it as something that could be true or worth exploring.

especially for relatively smaller percentages - which can sometimes simply be noise.





Interesting.

I was very interested in the over 19% North African part because I have an affinity with North Africans (Moroccans/Tunisians/Egyptians etc) and I always love travelling there. I have always felt a connection there. With their history and culture.

Also whenever I go to Egypt they all think I'm from Southern Egypt and tell me I'm lieing when I say I'm not.

I should not be that surprised because North and East Africans have been trading for thousands of years. The ancient Egyptians even used to say that the Gods come from East Africa.
"North Africa" is very general so I'd maybe look into narrowing down which part/country you're from .

But an East African having genetic ties to that general region isn't surprising at all to me given the proximity .

I've taken a look at results for East africans from that specific DNA company  and Your sisters results actually seem to be pretty common for East Africans who have taken the MyHeritage test . Even down to the random 1% "Native American " result being tossed in lol

In this case , this East African woman got "1% Inuit" as her "Native American" result in addition to MENA regions (Middle East North Africa )

The 1% native thingy seems to be some sort of small statistical error that Myheritage has in reading/interpreting East African DNA . But I think her MENA results are most likely on point .


Also keep in mind that Ashkenazi Jews are a very specific type of Jew .... Jews that have history/ancestry in Europe . Like my grandfathers grandma who came here to the states from Russia - most likely fleeing persecution of Jews that was highly prevalent at the time in Eastern Europe .

If all of your family has been in africa for a long time with no recent European migration , I'd say it's very unlikely it's Ashkenazi Jew.

I do think it could be Jewish/middle eastern , as again it wouldn't surprise me that an East African has some sort of Jewish ancestry - Jews have def been in and are still in East Africa . just not Ashkenazi specifically . Again that's something else you'll have to research and make sense of .

And of course testing with more than one company is most helpful - especially for things you have a question on.

1 of 5 tests reporting something is much different than 5 out of 5 tests reporting the exact same thing. I can't stress that enough. Super important to get more than 1 result if you're serious about research/making connections and using DNA as a launching pad for that.

Good luck booba ❤️ lemme know if there's any other way I can help
Project started: 2014 Wrapped up: 2024

Significant Discovery: First known Black American family of Kalmyk descent

Takeaways: Be prepared to pivot, even when you think you're on the right track. Be OK with being wrong so you can get things right.

Kalmyks are tribal Mongolic people who settled in Russia. It's estimated that only 300,000 Kalmyk descendants exist worldwide - with only 3,000 in America.



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