Lil Nas - “HOTBOX”

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justcommenting

March 16, 2025, 11:58:57 PM #45 Last Edit: March 17, 2025, 12:02:22 AM by justcommenting
Quote from: oph. on March 16, 2025, 07:43:57 AM
Quote from: saveme on March 15, 2025, 11:06:18 PM
Quote from: justcommenting on March 15, 2025, 10:54:02 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on March 14, 2025, 07:52:26 PMIt is crazy to think that he has one of the biggest charting songs in music history and just a few years later can't get on a chart anywhere

!!!!

He was blackballed by Viacom after that F**k BET song, and the gay kiss at the BET awards turned a lot people off. People do not care that someone is gay as long as they do not see it. He also played a role in his current state by targeting religious people, which I still do not get.

Gays do dislike him, but it is mainly the white and brown ones mad that a black gay man had such huge success. He had the longest running #1 song in history. He was one of the most successful gay artists in history. Meanwhile, Troye Sivan is a flop. They were mad. Still are. They say he's untalented, but so are most of the new girls. If they can be successful, so can he...

He got famous as a country artist then jumped ship and fagged out and the girls lost interest..very few artists can switch it up and keep the same momentum. He should've stayed in the closet, rapping over country beats and he might've went somewhere. Oh well. Here we are now, he's biting Nicki Minaj, going out sad. I like Nicki too, but, get your own flow and stop your shit.

My 2 cents




justcommenting

Quote from: saveme on March 15, 2025, 11:06:18 PM
Quote from: justcommenting on March 15, 2025, 10:54:02 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on March 14, 2025, 07:52:26 PMIt is crazy to think that he has one of the biggest charting songs in music history and just a few years later can't get on a chart anywhere

!!!!

He was blackballed by Viacom after that F**k BET song, and the gay kiss at the BET awards turned a lot people off. People do not care that someone is gay as long as they do not see it. He also played a role in his current state by targeting religious people, which I still do not get.

Gays do dislike him, but it is mainly the white and brown ones mad that a black gay man had such huge success. He had the longest running #1 song in history. He was one of the most successful gay artists in history. Meanwhile, Troye Sivan is a flop. They were mad. Still are. They say he's untalented, but so are most of the new girls. If they can be successful, so can he...

He got famous as a country artist then jumped ship and fagged out and the girls lost interest..very few artists can switch it up and keep the same momentum. He should've stayed in the closet, rapping over country beats and he might've went somewhere. Oh well. Here we are now, he's biting Nicki Minaj, going out sad. I like Nicki too, but, get your own flow and stop your shit.

My 2 cents

Yeah, that isn't how it went. Montero was his biggest era as an artist, not a song, but an artist. Despite Old Town Road being huge, no one cared about the EP it was on. He achieved 2 #1 hits from the Montero era and was establishing himself as an artist.

What happened was, after the gay kiss, BET felt disrespected and didn't nominate him for any BET awards that following year. He retaliated with Fuck BET. That was his first single post Montero era to flop, and that was a Hip Hop record. After that, every song he released started to flop. He was blackballed. Also, many people sided with BET because they thought the gay kiss was too much. Remember some people, namely Lil Boosie, started about the kids...

All these other girls get to be one tricky ponys and hypersexual, but it is a problem when he does it? Or is he supposed to skate around his sexuality like Frank and Tyler?

Ulysses

He has 8 consecutive flop singles now. I don't think it even matters what we think happened, he's just DONE

oph.

Quote from: justcommenting on March 17, 2025, 12:01:23 AM
Quote from: saveme on March 15, 2025, 11:06:18 PM
Quote from: justcommenting on March 15, 2025, 10:54:02 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on March 14, 2025, 07:52:26 PMIt is crazy to think that he has one of the biggest charting songs in music history and just a few years later can't get on a chart anywhere

!!!!

He was blackballed by Viacom after that F**k BET song, and the gay kiss at the BET awards turned a lot people off. People do not care that someone is gay as long as they do not see it. He also played a role in his current state by targeting religious people, which I still do not get.

Gays do dislike him, but it is mainly the white and brown ones mad that a black gay man had such huge success. He had the longest running #1 song in history. He was one of the most successful gay artists in history. Meanwhile, Troye Sivan is a flop. They were mad. Still are. They say he's untalented, but so are most of the new girls. If they can be successful, so can he...

He got famous as a country artist then jumped ship and fagged out and the girls lost interest..very few artists can switch it up and keep the same momentum. He should've stayed in the closet, rapping over country beats and he might've went somewhere. Oh well. Here we are now, he's biting Nicki Minaj, going out sad. I like Nicki too, but, get your own flow and stop your shit.

My 2 cents

Yeah, that isn't how it went. Montero was his biggest era as an artist, not a song, but an artist. Despite Old Town Road being huge, no one cared about the EP it was on. He achieved 2 #1 hits from the Montero era and was establishing himself as an artist.

What happened was, after the gay kiss, BET felt disrespected and didn't nominate him for any BET awards that following year. He retaliated with Fuck BET. That was his first single post Montero era to flop, and that was a Hip Hop record. After that, every song he released started to flop. He was blackballed. Also, many people sided with BET because they thought the gay kiss was too much. Remember some people, namely Lil Boosie, started about the kids...

All these other girls get to be one tricky ponys and hypersexual, but it is a problem when he does it? Or is he supposed to skate around his sexuality like Frank and Tyler?

n

unfair treatment! blackballed!

he's gimmicky and the gimmick is UP. yall can try to dance around it all u want, but thats kinda that on THAT. literally no one has suggested he "skate" around his sexuality. the reality is he has anchored his image in this gimmicky caricature of a black gay man and the girls aren't USING. BET aint even the force you trynna make it and tbh that ain't where his main audience lies. i won't even entertain this whole victim narrative lol. he could actually be impactful if he employed some actual diverse artistry instead of just hey guys, am gay! naked boys, look! gorl, what ELSE is goin on.

saveme

March 17, 2025, 06:09:08 AM #49 Last Edit: March 17, 2025, 06:09:43 AM by saveme
Quote from: justcommenting on March 17, 2025, 12:01:23 AM
Quote from: saveme on March 15, 2025, 11:06:18 PM
Quote from: justcommenting on March 15, 2025, 10:54:02 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on March 14, 2025, 07:52:26 PMIt is crazy to think that he has one of the biggest charting songs in music history and just a few years later can't get on a chart anywhere

!!!!

He was blackballed by Viacom after that F**k BET song, and the gay kiss at the BET awards turned a lot people off. People do not care that someone is gay as long as they do not see it. He also played a role in his current state by targeting religious people, which I still do not get.

Gays do dislike him, but it is mainly the white and brown ones mad that a black gay man had such huge success. He had the longest running #1 song in history. He was one of the most successful gay artists in history. Meanwhile, Troye Sivan is a flop. They were mad. Still are. They say he's untalented, but so are most of the new girls. If they can be successful, so can he...

He got famous as a country artist then jumped ship and fagged out and the girls lost interest..very few artists can switch it up and keep the same momentum. He should've stayed in the closet, rapping over country beats and he might've went somewhere. Oh well. Here we are now, he's biting Nicki Minaj, going out sad. I like Nicki too, but, get your own flow and stop your shit.

My 2 cents

Yeah, that isn't how it went. Montero was his biggest era as an artist, not a song, but an artist. Despite Old Town Road being huge, no one cared about the EP it was on. He achieved 2 #1 hits from the Montero era and was establishing himself as an artist.

What happened was, after the gay kiss, BET felt disrespected and didn't nominate him for any BET awards that following year. He retaliated with Fuck BET. That was his first single post Montero era to flop, and that was a Hip Hop record. After that, every song he released started to flop. He was blackballed. Also, many people sided with BET because they thought the gay kiss was too much. Remember some people, namely Lil Boosie, started about the kids...

All these other girls get to be one tricky ponys and hypersexual, but it is a problem when he does it? Or is he supposed to skate around his sexuality like Frank and Tyler?

I hate to break it to you babe, it's a pretty fckd up world we live in. And guess what? People really not fucking using flamboyant effeminate black gay men like that..if anything, they JUST starting to MAYBE come around to it..a little bit, perhaps.

Now I applaud anyone willing to put it all out there and live their lives on the front lines, fighting for equality and risking their CAREERS and literally LIVES to the greater good. They are heroes, I don't deny that fact. Noble, even.

You can't expect everyone to do that and I don't. Speaking to this man's career, it's just a simple fact that if he was playing it straight he would be more successful. He chose otherwise, and I have the utmost respect for that, but what did you really expect? People gave him a chance. He got a couple hits, some notable success. But people aren't all the way into this homo shit like that. Let's wake up. Trump is back in office. It's gonna take more time until we can truly be embraced by the masses. Like, 100 more years at the very least.
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RAY7

Does Nas X have any serious songs? Like about being in love or breakups or anything of substance? I think that's his issue, I haven't noticed any single of his that was not some over the top stunt. The gays would probably support him if he gave them anything other than sex to relate to.

Purple Moon

Quote from: RAY7 on March 17, 2025, 05:05:09 PMDoes Nas X have any serious songs? Like about being in love or breakups or anything of substance? I think that's his issue, I haven't noticed any single of his that was not some over the top stunt. The gays would probably support him if he gave them anything other than sex to relate to.
yea he had that one sort of love song plus a song praising jesus
Must be a purple moon, feel like one of those nights...

Barbie Dangerous

Quote from: RAY7 on March 17, 2025, 05:05:09 PMDoes Nas X have any serious songs? Like about being in love or breakups or anything of substance? I think that's his issue, I haven't noticed any single of his that was not some over the top stunt. The gays would probably support him if he gave them anything other than sex to relate to.
That's What I Want was.


justcommenting

Quote from: saveme on March 17, 2025, 06:09:08 AM
Quote from: justcommenting on March 17, 2025, 12:01:23 AM
Quote from: saveme on March 15, 2025, 11:06:18 PM
Quote from: justcommenting on March 15, 2025, 10:54:02 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on March 14, 2025, 07:52:26 PMIt is crazy to think that he has one of the biggest charting songs in music history and just a few years later can't get on a chart anywhere


!!!!

He was blackballed by Viacom after that F**k BET song, and the gay kiss at the BET awards turned a lot people off. People do not care that someone is gay as long as they do not see it. He also played a role in his current state by targeting religious people, which I still do not get.

Gays do dislike him, but it is mainly the white and brown ones mad that a black gay man had such huge success. He had the longest running #1 song in history. He was one of the most successful gay artists in history. Meanwhile, Troye Sivan is a flop. They were mad. Still are. They say he's untalented, but so are most of the new girls. If they can be successful, so can he...

He got famous as a country artist then jumped ship and fagged out and the girls lost interest..very few artists can switch it up and keep the same momentum. He should've stayed in the closet, rapping over country beats and he might've went somewhere. Oh well. Here we are now, he's biting Nicki Minaj, going out sad. I like Nicki too, but, get your own flow and stop your shit.

My 2 cents

Yeah, that isn't how it went. Montero was his biggest era as an artist, not a song, but an artist. Despite Old Town Road being huge, no one cared about the EP it was on. He achieved 2 #1 hits from the Montero era and was establishing himself as an artist.

What happened was, after the gay kiss, BET felt disrespected and didn't nominate him for any BET awards that following year. He retaliated with Fuck BET. That was his first single post Montero era to flop, and that was a Hip Hop record. After that, every song he released started to flop. He was blackballed. Also, many people sided with BET because they thought the gay kiss was too much. Remember some people, namely Lil Boosie, started about the kids...

All these other girls get to be one tricky ponys and hypersexual, but it is a problem when he does it? Or is he supposed to skate around his sexuality like Frank and Tyler?

I hate to break it to you babe, it's a pretty fckd up world we live in. And guess what? People really not fucking using flamboyant effeminate black gay men like that..if anything, they JUST starting to MAYBE come around to it..a little bit, perhaps.

Now I applaud anyone willing to put it all out there and live their lives on the front lines, fighting for equality and risking their CAREERS and literally LIVES to the greater good. They are heroes, I don't deny that fact. Noble, even.

You can't expect everyone to do that and I don't. Speaking to this man's career, it's just a simple fact that if he was playing it straight he would be more successful. He chose otherwise, and I have the utmost respect for that, but what did you really expect? People gave him a chance. He got a couple hits, some notable success. But people aren't all the way into this homo shit like that. Let's wake up. Trump is back in office. It's gonna take more time until we can truly be embraced by the masses. Like, 100 more years at the very least.

Sam Smith is successful, no?  Thank God he's trying to break the mold and normalize queerness in music. It will never change if people continue to sit on the fence afraid to lose their spot. Someone has to be the sacrificial lamb. This is the reason why the closet exist, why gay suicide exist, and why we have regressed under a Trump presidency. One little gay kiss and the world goes mad. I say make them madder. I'll support him if I am the only one.

justcommenting

And to your point, nothing would change if he was masculine presenting. The problem isn't how it is presented, it is it being shown period.

oph.

cccccx u trying to make this so much deeper than what it is

sam smith WAS successful until he STARTED the gimmick mess(a reverse nas, if you will) abd he kinda faded odd. you tip toeing around the REAL issue. gays are tired of being represented as this one-dimenisonal caricature of werk! yes! all about dick! when they take up these facades, they're catering to a SEGMENT of the gay population. and the novelty eventually wears off.

secondly, the gays dont OWE them anything JUST because theyre gay. especially if we think the representation is late, gimmicky, and again one-dimensional. and its extremely lazy and dismissive to simply lump that into this "self-loathing" angle. the gors dont use and they have their valid reasons. you may not LIKE it, but you certainly dont get to victimize him because of it.