Mo?nique back to messing again. leaks phone convo with Tyler perry

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Bruce

Quote from: Michelle Williams on June 27, 2018, 03:14:04 PM
Quote from: Bruce on June 27, 2018, 11:59:11 AM
Quote from: SadiddyAzzNoLimitPlatinumCard on June 27, 2018, 11:07:47 AM
Quote from: Bruce on June 27, 2018, 10:41:57 AM
I supported her at first, but not any longer. You can not convince and tell people what experience they had with you. It seems like she is trying to force people to feel differently.

Monique is saying she is going BROKE because of Tyler Perry. Terry Perry and  Lee Daniels tried to warn her that, that could happen if she did not "play" along. Not in the sense that they would make her go broke and rob her blind, but from the sense that she would lose opportunities. They are talented, they are smart, they are businessmen. Monique is only talented, and they predicted what would happen, not because they black balled her but they know how the industry works. They know the sacrifice it takes to be successful!

A lot of business are successful only because of the money that they put into it. The money that they invest into their products and their craft.  People give away products and services every damn day, in a hope to eventually receive a return on that investment. I'm sure Monique has received a lot of "freebies" because she is Monique, but she was not willing to invest in herself and she is now living the consequence that she was forewarned of.

:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: you talk as if this conversation was a second conversation she had with him this is the same conversation she spoke about before and made her case off of (when that comedy video leaked )
so the premise is the same

it doesnt change because she now leaked the audio  :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:

funty

shes always said that orpah lee and tyler let the assumptions stand that she was difficult rather than saying no she wasn't we didnt have a deal with her that included what we were asking

and having that reverberate from those 3 would have set the record str8 lol

separate  issue from the netflix drama

It is clear that she is difficult. It seems like they ALL tried to reason with her and speak logics, but she took it as ultimatums. She let a 30K Trip to Cannes cost her MILLIONS. Anyone who cannot get that, I am sure is difficult to deal with.

The thing is Monique has done a lot of things wrong but she was not COMPLETELY wrong in this whole mess. Some of the things she has said make sense but she she went about the whole situation wrong. Now I can understand why she didn't want to go to France at the time because her twin sons were babies back then and she also had older children who were in school. Managing these chirren is a nightmare at the best of times from what I've seen so I can understand the promo they wanted her to do at the time was burden on her AND for NO money? :everythingok:


I get where she is coming from but the antics she pulls, her approach and her husband are not helping her cause. She would have benefited from a great publicist back in the day to maneuver her through the whole situation so she came out in a positive light but hindsight is 20/20 and it is easy for us to judge from afar how she handled the whole situation. We all mess up but she is doing it in public.

I do feel bad for her because she is talented and I have always enjoyed seeing her on the screen. :stressed:


This is true, but she is making it seems as if Tyler, Oprah and Lee gave her an Ultimatum, but I think it was more of a warning. She is living what they predicted and they were right, and now she wants to force their opinions to change. Everything we do is of our own free will, but we have to accept the consequences. If someone warns you, that this could happen if you do not do this and it does, then good fucking riddance. A week in Cannes, has cost her millions of dollars. 4 babies breastfeeding, 5 in school or a high school graduation would not have stopped me. And if it did, be confident in the decision that you make.

Sometimes in life you have to play the game, even if its not "right"when it can effect your livelihood.

BAPHOMET.



African Queen

Quote from: Bruce on June 27, 2018, 04:09:35 PM
Quote from: Michelle Williams on June 27, 2018, 03:14:04 PM
Quote from: Bruce on June 27, 2018, 11:59:11 AM
Quote from: SadiddyAzzNoLimitPlatinumCard on June 27, 2018, 11:07:47 AM
Quote from: Bruce on June 27, 2018, 10:41:57 AM
I supported her at first, but not any longer. You can not convince and tell people what experience they had with you. It seems like she is trying to force people to feel differently.

Monique is saying she is going BROKE because of Tyler Perry. Terry Perry and  Lee Daniels tried to warn her that, that could happen if she did not "play" along. Not in the sense that they would make her go broke and rob her blind, but from the sense that she would lose opportunities. They are talented, they are smart, they are businessmen. Monique is only talented, and they predicted what would happen, not because they black balled her but they know how the industry works. They know the sacrifice it takes to be successful!

A lot of business are successful only because of the money that they put into it. The money that they invest into their products and their craft.  People give away products and services every damn day, in a hope to eventually receive a return on that investment. I'm sure Monique has received a lot of "freebies" because she is Monique, but she was not willing to invest in herself and she is now living the consequence that she was forewarned of.

:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: you talk as if this conversation was a second conversation she had with him this is the same conversation she spoke about before and made her case off of (when that comedy video leaked )
so the premise is the same

it doesnt change because she now leaked the audio  :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:

funty

shes always said that orpah lee and tyler let the assumptions stand that she was difficult rather than saying no she wasn't we didnt have a deal with her that included what we were asking

and having that reverberate from those 3 would have set the record str8 lol

separate  issue from the netflix drama

It is clear that she is difficult. It seems like they ALL tried to reason with her and speak logics, but she took it as ultimatums. She let a 30K Trip to Cannes cost her MILLIONS. Anyone who cannot get that, I am sure is difficult to deal with.

The thing is Monique has done a lot of things wrong but she was not COMPLETELY wrong in this whole mess. Some of the things she has said make sense but she she went about the whole situation wrong. Now I can understand why she didn't want to go to France at the time because her twin sons were babies back then and she also had older children who were in school. Managing these chirren is a nightmare at the best of times from what I've seen so I can understand the promo they wanted her to do at the time was burden on her AND for NO money? :everythingok:


I get where she is coming from but the antics she pulls, her approach and her husband are not helping her cause. She would have benefited from a great publicist back in the day to maneuver her through the whole situation so she came out in a positive light but hindsight is 20/20 and it is easy for us to judge from afar how she handled the whole situation. We all mess up but she is doing it in public.

I do feel bad for her because she is talented and I have always enjoyed seeing her on the screen. :stressed:


This is true, but she is making it seems as if Tyler, Oprah and Lee gave her an Ultimatum, but I think it was more of a warning. She is living what they predicted and they were right, and now she wants to force their opinions to change. Everything we do is of our own free will, but we have to accept the consequences. If someone warns you, that this could happen if you do not do this and it does, then good fucking riddance. A week in Cannes, has cost her millions of dollars. 4 babies breastfeeding, 5 in school or a high school graduation would not have stopped me. And if it did, be confident in the decision that you make.

Sometimes in life you have to play the game, even if its not "right"when it can effect your livelihood.

She should have just kept it at "I choose my kids over the opportunities" and kept it pushing. Talking too much mess gets people into trouble all the damn time. Sometimes the less you say the better.

Lane Bryant Jumpsuit

Quote from: Bruce on June 27, 2018, 11:59:11 AM
Quote from: SadiddyAzzNoLimitPlatinumCard on June 27, 2018, 11:07:47 AM
Quote from: Bruce on June 27, 2018, 10:41:57 AM
I supported her at first, but not any longer. You can not convince and tell people what experience they had with you. It seems like she is trying to force people to feel differently.

Monique is saying she is going BROKE because of Tyler Perry. Terry Perry and  Lee Daniels tried to warn her that, that could happen if she did not "play" along. Not in the sense that they would make her go broke and rob her blind, but from the sense that she would lose opportunities. They are talented, they are smart, they are businessmen. Monique is only talented, and they predicted what would happen, not because they black balled her but they know how the industry works. They know the sacrifice it takes to be successful!

A lot of business are successful only because of the money that they put into it. The money that they invest into their products and their craft.  People give away products and services every damn day, in a hope to eventually receive a return on that investment. I'm sure Monique has received a lot of "freebies" because she is Monique, but she was not willing to invest in herself and she is now living the consequence that she was forewarned of.

:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: you talk as if this conversation was a second conversation she had with him this is the same conversation she spoke about before and made her case off of (when that comedy video leaked )
so the premise is the same

it doesnt change because she now leaked the audio  :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:

funty

shes always said that orpah lee and tyler let the assumptions stand that she was difficult rather than saying no she wasn't we didnt have a deal with her that included what we were asking

and having that reverberate from those 3 would have set the record str8 lol

separate  issue from the netflix drama

It is clear that she is difficult. It seems like they ALL tried to reason with her and speak logics, but she took it as ultimatums. She let a 30K Trip to Cannes cost her MILLIONS. Anyone who cannot get that, I am sure is difficult to deal with.

Yeah if u say it enough it may seem true
They did not try to reason with her they told her  do this extra shit and play the game to get ur oscar she said no and won it anyway
Being forced to do something u dont have to do by your employer is wrong and its urged that u use ur resources to combat that and the retaliation that may come from speaking up about it

But mo never made no such deals with tyler or oprah and her stuff with lee was over and done soooo she wasnt beholden to them at all

The fact is she did her promotion stints and she was done

Yeah she coulda played politics and did what they wanted
But a line has to be drawn somewhere

Shes been told grom day one play right and u will get this or that its a cycle she chose to end

All she wants is for them to say hey this what happened

Done




Lewie D Im Caramel Bitches Ion Wanna hear Im Actin
Different

Gilgamesh.

Lew, you give a Monique mess lot of the time so I'm not surprised your taken in with her antics.

Lane Bryant Jumpsuit

Quote from: Gilgamesh. on June 27, 2018, 05:48:41 PM
Lew, you give a Monique mess lot of the time so I'm not surprised your taken in with her antics.

Omg we all are moniques when we feel shit is misrepresented and thats just on a forum of 300 ppul or so

But she has nothing to lose






Lewie D Im Caramel Bitches Ion Wanna hear Im Actin
Different

BigDawg

So if  Lee, Tyler and Oprah apologize...then what?

Nobody in the industry is going to fuck with her because she has proven herself to be to unstable. If she doesn?t get the negotiation she wants, or the recognition she feels she deserves, she is ready to expose you. This tirade is so tiring. You want the public to feel for you for something that happened behind closed doors, why not handle it in that fashion. What does she gain by going on this public campaign to expose others.

Bruce

Quote from: SadiddyAzzNoLimitPlatinumCard on June 27, 2018, 05:24:04 PM
Quote from: Bruce on June 27, 2018, 11:59:11 AM
Quote from: SadiddyAzzNoLimitPlatinumCard on June 27, 2018, 11:07:47 AM
Quote from: Bruce on June 27, 2018, 10:41:57 AM
I supported her at first, but not any longer. You can not convince and tell people what experience they had with you. It seems like she is trying to force people to feel differently.

Monique is saying she is going BROKE because of Tyler Perry. Terry Perry and  Lee Daniels tried to warn her that, that could happen if she did not "play" along. Not in the sense that they would make her go broke and rob her blind, but from the sense that she would lose opportunities. They are talented, they are smart, they are businessmen. Monique is only talented, and they predicted what would happen, not because they black balled her but they know how the industry works. They know the sacrifice it takes to be successful!

A lot of business are successful only because of the money that they put into it. The money that they invest into their products and their craft.  People give away products and services every damn day, in a hope to eventually receive a return on that investment. I'm sure Monique has received a lot of "freebies" because she is Monique, but she was not willing to invest in herself and she is now living the consequence that she was forewarned of.

:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: you talk as if this conversation was a second conversation she had with him this is the same conversation she spoke about before and made her case off of (when that comedy video leaked )
so the premise is the same

it doesnt change because she now leaked the audio  :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:

funty

shes always said that orpah lee and tyler let the assumptions stand that she was difficult rather than saying no she wasn't we didnt have a deal with her that included what we were asking

and having that reverberate from those 3 would have set the record str8 lol

separate  issue from the netflix drama

It is clear that she is difficult. It seems like they ALL tried to reason with her and speak logics, but she took it as ultimatums. She let a 30K Trip to Cannes cost her MILLIONS. Anyone who cannot get that, I am sure is difficult to deal with.

Yeah if u say it enough it may seem true
They did not try to reason with her they told her  do this extra shit and play the game to get ur oscar she said no and won it anyway
Being forced to do something u dont have to do by your employer is wrong and its urged that u use ur resources to combat that and the retaliation that may come from speaking up about it



I am speaking as a business owner and not an employee. Monique does not file a W2 when it is tax time, she is brand, a business. People give away thousands-millions of products and services to promote their projects and themselves. I dont thik they told her what she had to do, but rather warned her what would happen if she didnt. She chose to ignore 3 heavy weights in the industries warnings. And she upset that she is living her consequence.

I don't feel sorry for her, because celebrities benefit from "freebies" all the time. Ask Monique how many gift rooms shes walk out of with bags full of stuff because people want their product to be known, and get attention. It is a part of any successful business, but she lacks the business mindset.

Vonc2002

Quote from: Gilgamesh. on June 27, 2018, 05:48:41 PM
Lew, you give a Monique mess lot of the time so I'm not surprised your taken in with her antics.
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





Lane Bryant Jumpsuit

Quote from: Bruce on June 27, 2018, 06:56:20 PM
Quote from: SadiddyAzzNoLimitPlatinumCard on June 27, 2018, 05:24:04 PM
Quote from: Bruce on June 27, 2018, 11:59:11 AM
Quote from: SadiddyAzzNoLimitPlatinumCard on June 27, 2018, 11:07:47 AM
Quote from: Bruce on June 27, 2018, 10:41:57 AM
I supported her at first, but not any longer. You can not convince and tell people what experience they had with you. It seems like she is trying to force people to feel differently.

Monique is saying she is going BROKE because of Tyler Perry. Terry Perry and  Lee Daniels tried to warn her that, that could happen if she did not "play" along. Not in the sense that they would make her go broke and rob her blind, but from the sense that she would lose opportunities. They are talented, they are smart, they are businessmen. Monique is only talented, and they predicted what would happen, not because they black balled her but they know how the industry works. They know the sacrifice it takes to be successful!

A lot of business are successful only because of the money that they put into it. The money that they invest into their products and their craft.  People give away products and services every damn day, in a hope to eventually receive a return on that investment. I'm sure Monique has received a lot of "freebies" because she is Monique, but she was not willing to invest in herself and she is now living the consequence that she was forewarned of.

:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: you talk as if this conversation was a second conversation she had with him this is the same conversation she spoke about before and made her case off of (when that comedy video leaked )
so the premise is the same

it doesnt change because she now leaked the audio  :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:

funty

shes always said that orpah lee and tyler let the assumptions stand that she was difficult rather than saying no she wasn't we didnt have a deal with her that included what we were asking

and having that reverberate from those 3 would have set the record str8 lol

separate  issue from the netflix drama

It is clear that she is difficult. It seems like they ALL tried to reason with her and speak logics, but she took it as ultimatums. She let a 30K Trip to Cannes cost her MILLIONS. Anyone who cannot get that, I am sure is difficult to deal with.

Yeah if u say it enough it may seem true
They did not try to reason with her they told her  do this extra shit and play the game to get ur oscar she said no and won it anyway
Being forced to do something u dont have to do by your employer is wrong and its urged that u use ur resources to combat that and the retaliation that may come from speaking up about it



I am speaking as a business owner and not an employee. Monique does not file a W2 when it is tax time, she is brand, a business. People give away thousands-millions of products and services to promote their projects and themselves. I dont thik they told her what she had to do, but rather warned her what would happen if she didnt. She chose to ignore 3 heavy weights in the industries warnings. And she upset that she is living her consequence.

I don't feel sorry for her, because celebrities benefit from "freebies" all the time. Ask Monique how many gift rooms shes walk out of with bags full of stuff because people want their product to be known, and get attention. It is a part of any successful business, but she lacks the business mindset.

Ur assement goes both ways
Yeah monique could have invested that money and time  to hobnob without a real roi in sight

And tyler and oprah coulda threw her some coin to do it if they felt it was going to impact their bottom line

They didnt warn her of anything
The asked her 3 times and she declined
Like i said they told her usually u do this and that for the oscar committee once the noms comes down

Which isnt the same as if u dont do it u can kiss ur career goodbye
They didnt warn her of that its not their place to warn her of it lmao

When executives saw her name they was like monique? Who else cause last i heard she didnt do anything for the oscar committee and she diffifult

Lee coulda said no shes fine she just didnt do extra

But  he said oh yeah oh yeah ur right  lets move on to another potential

Lee lied
Lee didnt defend her
Lee was in agreememt

Called monique and said hey u blackballed

And ur husband is over shooting ur worth in negotiations

So

Not fair to tell someone jipped out of a decent pay to go out of their way while two billionaires cant spare extra coin









Lewie D Im Caramel Bitches Ion Wanna hear Im Actin
Different

GLOCK

Quote from: Gilgamesh. on June 27, 2018, 05:48:41 PM
Lew, you give a Monique mess lot of the time so I'm not surprised your taken in with her antics.
:omgwatshappening:

RatherBe

lol I wish she would give it a rest. but I love the mess as well. girl we know you aint lyin, drop it.