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[FlowerBomb]

And the physical characteristic of CHEEKBONES is actually counterproductive in regardless to sexualizing a woman. Strong cheekbones usually read very masculine.

!!! that isn't a submissive, feminine sexual thing

See above post.

You said you weren't dismissing the fact that Natives are sexualized.

huh?
I agreed with Lonz that I didn't know NA women were sexualized, I also agreed that even that they were, it wasn't as other were women historically
But I also agree that "high cheekbones" is a facial feature that's commonly found to be an attractive feature no matter the ethnicity, it's not exclusive to any ethnicity, let alone Native Americans, it isn't a sexual thing.
When men look at women they're not looking for High Cheekbones unless they're about to cast them in a Versace shoot mess

[L0NZ.]

How are women with box shapes and hard facial features sexualized?

Exotical-ized and sexualized are NOT THE SAME THING

[L0NZ.]

Hair! face bones!!

Yea that sure gets the hormones racing

You're not getting it.

It's the entire "exotical-ization" of Indians that is damaging.

Your typical American Indian woman does NOT look like Pocahontas. And tbh many Natives are not "sexy" shaped, and probably have one of the least "desirable" body types.

I just sat here and said that my great grandmother looked NOTHING like that. She could pass as a whole man. Not some sexy "Cherokee Princess".

And I'd say African men and women have the "best" or "sexiest" natural bodies, if we're getting into what is truth. But that is my opinion.

So why are Native women promoted in such a "sexy" way?

This is what I am getting at. It's the promotion of "exotical-ization" .

Where are Native women promoted in a sexual way Afro? The cartoon movie and the Halloween costumes? Where?

What you are thinking of is Native women actually PARTICIPATING in the promotion of sexualization
The same way that we see Latinas or Black women actually lending their bodies and images to it.
You seem to be on a quest for that type of example.

But it is different in this case.

The "exoticification" of Natives has not gone unnoticed, Lonz! OMG I am actually surprised you are just now hearing of this. It's been noted!

Marketing the Exotic: Creating the Image of the ?Real? Indian


Some excerpts:

Defenseless to the marketing of their race, Native Americans became ?other? to the white man; their exotic qualities were now a sellable commodity.

Through advertisements, the image of the Native American was transformed into the exotic, and marketed to consumers.

http://chronicles.dickinson.edu/studentwork/indian/8_marketing.htm

Exotic as in, not of this land. The real definition. Not something about vanity and/or sex.

[L0NZ.]

that?s why they said TRANSFORMED because of the irony. they were the ones here first now they?re exotic to it?

[L0NZ.]

The words "Sexy Native American" together in itself is sexualization of a PEOPLE.

No, it?s definitely a mockery of sorts, but the sexualization is still absent. ?Sexy?, in that case, is descriptive of the garment/costume, not Natives


It?s booty shorts and a crop top themed after traditional Native attire. That?s what?s sexy about it.

[L0NZ.]

I literally just googled ?sexy nun costume? and wow wow wow.

Are nuns sexualized?

[L0NZ.]

You are being disrespectful and very dismissive at this point and I'm done with the conversation.

How? You gave me sexy Halloween costumes to prove how Natives are looked at as sex objects because the costumes exist.

I found nun costumes it that doesn?t mean people look at nuns as sex objects because some costumes exist.

[L0NZ.]

O M F G.

You are acting like a real WHITE person right now with the obliviousness and DISMISSAL of real struggle.

Lonz, you have to be fucking KIDDING me.
Look into this further before you move to DISMISS.

Are these women PROTESTING Native sexualization "sexy"?



Stop selling costumes that sexualize Indigenous women

Three weeks ago, I was threatened with arrest for presenting a petition with more than 14,000 signatures on it to a Halloween-costume maker. Yandy, a Phoenix, Arizona-based lingerie distributor, sells around 40 different styles of Native American-themed costumes. Most of them are for women, and most are sexualized.

It?s past time to speak up about America?s unwillingness to address the racism and discrimination directed at Indigenous people, particularly women.

More @ https://www.hcn.org/articles/tribal-affairs-stop-selling-costumes-that-sexualize-indigenous-women

these women don?t want their traditional garb being reduced to lingerie for Halloween.

This does nothing for your argument.

[L0NZ.]

If you had something other than sexy halloween costumes for women, I?d be more inclined to hop on-board the ?good Indian hair speaks to the sexualization of Native women than it does the AA community and their desire to be ?other.? I mean ?good Indian hair? is a thing BECAUSE of Black people. So I just don?t agree at ALL and I can?t apologize for that. BUT I am sorry to come off as dismissive or disrespectful in illustrating my disagreement. I try not to be that person.

[Kurama]

If you had something other than sexy halloween costumes for women, I?d be more inclined to hop on-board the ?good Indian hair speaks to the sexualization of Native women than it does the AA community and their desire to be ?other.? I mean ?good Indian hair? is a thing BECAUSE of Black people. So I just don?t agree at ALL and I can?t apologize for that. BUT I am sorry to come off as dismissive or disrespectful in illustrating my disagreement. I try not to be that person.

[African Queen]

My friends and I just watched this past weekend, the way they just watered down the killings, diseases, rapes, etc. This movie is problematic!

The element of racism was definitely there. That in itself got a strong message across.

Even if you REALLY listen to the lyrics of Colors of the Wind, it's reading White people for filth - with a beautiful melody.

The song in itself says a lot of the injustices and issues White people brought to this land.



But I mean you can't include rape scenes in a movie made for kids.

This is one of my fave songs of all time sang by one my fave BITCHES. 

[L0NZ.]

The fact that you can look at an article and image such as that one and just go right back to "Well they ain't REALLY sexualized"

That's just unacceptable.

Because I feel like you want me to forget the part about physical features being the catalyst for the sexualization. You initially argued that hair and cheekbones being coveted by other groups was proof of that. I think your terminology was off, because that?s not sexualization.

In regards to your receipts...I don?t think these women are protesting being sexualized for their skin, hair, and cheekbones like you claimed. There?s probably articles where Black women argue that they are more than ass and titties and big booty bitches. Articles where Asian women argue that they aren?t all submissive, giggling, closet freaks like they?ve been sexualized to represent. But you gave me articles where Native women are protesting costumes. See the difference? I feel your example displays people protesting the degradation and mockery of their heritage through clothing. To me that?s not about the sexualization of the PEOPLE, but the disrespect to the culture. The same if they started making sexy costumes out of Kent? cloth, I would find that protesters were protesting the clothing being sexualized, than African people themselves. Just like the traditional, respectable nun attire is sexed up in the costumes. One would take issue with turning the robe with a damn CROSS on it, into some Victoria Secret mess with a whip. That doesn?t mean that group of people are a sexualized group of people. All of these examples include costumes because you made it about that. But the only thing sexualized, are the costumes. Native women have not been sexualized in the way other groups of women have. And it may have something to do with their shapes and masculine bones, like you said. Men objectify ALL women yes, but not to the point that ?the objectification of Native women? is a thing you want it to be. Relying on the protesting of Halloween costumes to paint the sexualization picture is actually disrespectful. If that?s the only thing you?re drawing from, you?re saying Native women are sexy and objectified one day a year. Where?s the sexualization in that? That?s all I can say on this If I say sexualization one more time I?ll kill myself.

Thanks for accepting my apology. Last time you?ll be getting one.

[L0NZ.]

girl just come run the hidden pine trails of the forest and taste the sun sweet berries of the earth