Jimmy Kimmel said TOO BAD NIGGAS! Keep cryin over the oscars!

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SUPREME

Well history isn't that long and I don't see the European reign being over anytime soon

yummy

I just want to see more of us behind the scenes instead of begging to be recognized by people who really don't fuck with us that heavy.


BAPHOMET.

Quote from: SUPREME on January 22, 2016, 05:33:28 PM
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 05:29:16 PM
White people rack these awards yearly so what makes 2016 so different? Negroes sit. Always wanting to debate and moan over something. FOH.

Debate about the important things. Like the HIV rate, poverty, obesity and broken families in the community. Not an award.

There are many black legends who were never awarded or acclaimed outside of the black community yet they managed to make an impact in their respective industry.
I agree

I don't think awards hold as much weight as everyone is trying to make it seem

I don't think people hold Beyonce or Mariah for example, in such high regard because of the Grammy or 18 #1s

Those things are really just the small part of their legacy.
Though they are nice when said. They don't speak to the impact they've had on the industry.
Just nice to have.


∧ ∨ ∩ ∪

Quote from: Nine on January 22, 2016, 05:40:33 PM
It's crazy to me how Will and Jada can sit on Overbrook and complain

You ain't helping
:bvy:

They produce black mainstream content. They hire black writers, black directors, black producers, etc. They put in the work.

RAY7

Quote from: H??R J?RD∆Ń on January 22, 2016, 05:44:01 PM
Quote from: Nine on January 22, 2016, 05:40:33 PM
It's crazy to me how Will and Jada can sit on Overbrook and complain

You ain't helping
:bvy:

They produce black mainstream content. They hire black writers, black directors, black producers, etc. They put in the work.
exactly
I just posted a link to the Overbrook site they def are helping

RekeRig

Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:05:48 PM
You guys do not see the bigger picture. Oscars write history. They are what will remain.

When people look back at cinematic accomplishments of human kind, they will see nothing but white people which will further cement and perpetuate the notion of white supremacy for the future.

am mean, you'll be presented as "Academy award winner _______ " for the rest of your career and that sounds really cute but most people can't name who won for any of the major categories in any specific year.  :dead:

and like Viola said, the issue isn't the awards...it's the studios and overwhelmingly Caucasian folks behind the scenes that need to be examined.
true

Whoopi shared similar thoughts

Nine

Quote from: H??R J?RD∆Ń on January 22, 2016, 05:44:01 PM
Quote from: Nine on January 22, 2016, 05:40:33 PM
It's crazy to me how Will and Jada can sit on Overbrook and complain

You ain't helping
:bvy:

They produce black mainstream content. They hire black writers, black directors, black producers, etc. They put in the work.
The last thing they did was Annie and The Queen Latifah Show

:holdupguys:

SouravMay

@ yumz

Sometimes it is a matter of temporal resources. Ok, so in music, you will go in depth. But let's say you quickly want to inform yourself about for example architecture, you will just see whatever appears on the surface of your research, or maybe fashion models, you might end up checking out girls who covered VOGUE to get some quick info.

Titles and Awards give you a tighter grip in history, and will make you easier to discover.
B7

RekeRig

Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:15:05 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:05:48 PM
You guys do not see the bigger picture. Oscars write history. They are what will remain.

When people look back at cinematic accomplishments of human kind, they will see nothing but white people which will further cement and perpetuate the notion of white supremacy for the future.

am mean, you'll be presented as "Academy award winner _______ " for the rest of your career and that sounds really cute but most people can't name who won for any of the major categories in any specific year.  :dead:

and like Viola said, the issue isn't the awards...it's the studios and overwhelmingly Caucasian folks behind the scenes that need to be examined.

Yumz, I don't know shit about science or scientific people or who invented what, so what I will do is go down all the Noble prize winners, as the starting point of my research. You want to know what good R&B of the 80's was like many people are going to start with the Grammys. And believe me lots of old 40's movies would be forgotten by now had it not been for the Oscar they won. Any Oscar winner will forever be remembered, as the institution as of now has outlived any actor. This has political magnitude. Oscars will be covered in books about Human culture etc.

Either you devalue the Oscar by taking its credibility and giving it a bias/racist reputation or you make sure you get included because in a 100 years people will have forgotten Gabrielle Union, but probably still remember Halle Berry or hell Jennifer Hudson. Because the Oscar will still be around. I only know Hattie McDaniels cause she won.
malc wait

:stressed:

Idk guys.  😩😩😩 I think both sides make great points. I will say, I personally wouldn't put one issue over the other. Sure, projects getting green lit and all the white prejudiced folks behind the scenes, make up a big chunk of the issue, but I don't see an issue with the "boycott" either because it still can help bring about some sort of change or at least garner some attention toward the real damn issue

It's a START

RAY7

Quote from: RIG on January 22, 2016, 05:49:08 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:15:05 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:05:48 PM
You guys do not see the bigger picture. Oscars write history. They are what will remain.

When people look back at cinematic accomplishments of human kind, they will see nothing but white people which will further cement and perpetuate the notion of white supremacy for the future.

am mean, you'll be presented as "Academy award winner _______ " for the rest of your career and that sounds really cute but most people can't name who won for any of the major categories in any specific year.  :dead:

and like Viola said, the issue isn't the awards...it's the studios and overwhelmingly Caucasian folks behind the scenes that need to be examined.

Yumz, I don't know shit about science or scientific people or who invented what, so what I will do is go down all the Noble prize winners, as the starting point of my research. You want to know what good R&B of the 80's was like many people are going to start with the Grammys. And believe me lots of old 40's movies would be forgotten by now had it not been for the Oscar they won. Any Oscar winner will forever be remembered, as the institution as of now has outlived any actor. This has political magnitude. Oscars will be covered in books about Human culture etc.

Either you devalue the Oscar by taking its credibility and giving it a bias/racist reputation or you make sure you get included because in a 100 years people will have forgotten Gabrielle Union, but probably still remember Halle Berry or hell Jennifer Hudson. Because the Oscar will still be around. I only know Hattie McDaniels cause she won.
malc wait

:stressed:

Idk guys.  😩😩😩 I think both sides make great points. I will say, I personally wouldn't put one issue over the other. Sure, projects getting green lit and all the white prejudiced folks behind the scenes, make up a big chunk of the issue, but I don't see an issue with the "boycott" either because it still can help bring about some sort of change or at least garner some attention toward the real damn issue

It's a START
exactly what I said, why do we keep trying to prevent the START?
If they show up at the MTV Movie awards later THEN complain

King

this was corny..
sdsd
none of these white late night hosts are funny

SouravMay

Quote from: RIG on January 22, 2016, 05:49:08 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:15:05 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:05:48 PM
You guys do not see the bigger picture. Oscars write history. They are what will remain.

When people look back at cinematic accomplishments of human kind, they will see nothing but white people which will further cement and perpetuate the notion of white supremacy for the future.

am mean, you'll be presented as "Academy award winner _______ " for the rest of your career and that sounds really cute but most people can't name who won for any of the major categories in any specific year.  :dead:

and like Viola said, the issue isn't the awards...it's the studios and overwhelmingly Caucasian folks behind the scenes that need to be examined.

Yumz, I don't know shit about science or scientific people or who invented what, so what I will do is go down all the Noble prize winners, as the starting point of my research. You want to know what good R&B of the 80's was like many people are going to start with the Grammys. And believe me lots of old 40's movies would be forgotten by now had it not been for the Oscar they won. Any Oscar winner will forever be remembered, as the institution as of now has outlived any actor. This has political magnitude. Oscars will be covered in books about Human culture etc.

Either you devalue the Oscar by taking its credibility and giving it a bias/racist reputation or you make sure you get included because in a 100 years people will have forgotten Gabrielle Union, but probably still remember Halle Berry or hell Jennifer Hudson. Because the Oscar will still be around. I only know Hattie McDaniels cause she won.
malc wait

:stressed:

Idk guys.  😩😩😩 I think both sides make great points. I will say, I personally wouldn't put one issue over the other. Sure, projects getting green lit and all the white prejudiced folks behind the scenes, make up a big chunk of the issue, but I don't see an issue with the "boycott" either because it still can help bring about some sort of change or at least garner some attention toward the real damn issue

It's a START

I am actually impressed with what Jada's little vidya sparked.
B7

RekeRig

Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:19:29 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:15:05 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:05:48 PM
You guys do not see the bigger picture. Oscars write history. They are what will remain.

When people look back at cinematic accomplishments of human kind, they will see nothing but white people which will further cement and perpetuate the notion of white supremacy for the future.

am mean, you'll be presented as "Academy award winner _______ " for the rest of your career and that sounds really cute but most people can't name who won for any of the major categories in any specific year.  :dead:

and like Viola said, the issue isn't the awards...it's the studios and overwhelmingly Caucasian folks behind the scenes that need to be examined.

Yumz, I don't know shit about science or scientific people or who invented what, so what I will do is go down all the Noble prize winners, as the starting point of my research. You want to know what good R&B of the 80's was like many people are going to start with the Grammys. And believe me lots of old 40's movies would be forgotten by had it not been for the Oscar. Any Oscar winner will forever be remembered, as the institution as of now has outlived any actor. This has political magnitude. Oscars will be covered in books about Human culture etc.

Either you devalue the Oscar by taking its credibility and giving it a bias/racist reputation or you make sure you get included because in a 100 years people will have forgotten Gabrielle Union, but probably still remember Halle Berry or hell Jennifer Hudson. Because the Oscar will still be around. I only know Hattie McDaniels cause she won.

well, of course you remember Hattie and Halle because they were historic wins. I just don't see the need for validation from awards or a pat on the back from a committee of white people.

Sorry  :dead:
i see what you mean, but I just don't think of it like that. The award usually goes to performances that can't be denied no matter what race is handing out the trophy or ultimately helping to make the decision


RekeRig

Quote from: SUPREME on January 22, 2016, 05:33:28 PM
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 05:29:16 PM
White people rack these awards yearly so what makes 2016 so different? Negroes sit. Always wanting to debate and moan over something. FOH.

Debate about the important things. Like the HIV rate, poverty, obesity and broken families in the community. Not an award.

There are many black legends who were never awarded or acclaimed outside of the black community yet they managed to make an impact in their respective industry.
I agree

I don't think awards hold as much weight as everyone is trying to make it seem

I don't think people hold Beyonce or Mariah for example, in such high regard because of the Grammy or 18 #1s
dead. This is true too

n

Cuz those things aren't the first things that come to mind when I think of them. Like ...  EVER :dead: