Update: Whoopi Suspended From 'View' Over Holocaust Remarks

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ATLien

Quote from: RAY7 on February 01, 2022, 02:46:22 PM
Goldberg is a Jewish last name (I know it%u2019s not her real name) but she should know they don%u2019t play games and hold a LOT of power in Hollywood
better donate some money or do some kinda special event for them if she wants to keep her career
Or she%u2019ll be back to Caryn Johnson real quick
i was just thinking how her stage name is full of irony at this point

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Cartierline


Lucid Salvatore

Quote from: Cartierline on February 01, 2022, 04:01:00 PM
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The Jews really love a pity party mess :dead:

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The amount of power they have in Hollywood & American politics makes me scream  :dead: there's only like 20 million Jews around the world (compared to the 2 billion Muslims & Christians). Why tf do the Jewish ppl have so much power? chile

Amazing

Quote from: Lucid Salvatore on January 31, 2022, 11:46:57 PM
The Holocaust and World War II are so unfortunate to me because it's the reason Jewish people got their own state at the detriment of the Palestinians. You would think after what they experienced during  World War II, they would be more sympathetic, but the Israeli government is still torturing the Palestinians and taking their land. Free Palestine ❤️

Exactly. What about the Palestinian holocaust that is going on TODAY?

Amazing

The way Jews treat Black people in Israel is disgusting.

I have zero sympathy for them and they always crying about something that happened before they were born when they are doing the exact same thing right now to Palestinians.




Amazing

Jews are the only group of people who you can't criticize or question in anyway. It is so weird to me.

ATLien

February 01, 2022, 05:38:10 PM #36 Last Edit: February 01, 2022, 05:39:36 PM by Lady of Lithuania
Palestinians have a well documented history of racism to Black people .:. Including calling condoleeza rice a "black spinster" and depicting her in illustrations as a monkey in their media.

So if we are looking to paint an entire people with one brush as opposed to case by case ...good luck finding a group of people in this world who are completely devoid of black racism .

There's kinda this general disdain for us in pockets  of every group across the globe if u didn't get the memo.

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Kaeli.

Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on February 01, 2022, 05:38:10 PM
Including calling condoleeza rice a "black spinster" and depicting her in illustrations as a monkey .
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Amazing

Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on February 01, 2022, 05:38:10 PM
Palestinians have a well documented history of racism to Black people .:. Including calling condoleeza rice a "black spinster" and depicting her in illustrations as a monkey in their media.

So if we are looking to paint an entire people with one brush as opposed to case by case ...good luck finding a group of people in this world who are completely devoid of black racism .

There's kinda this general disdain for us in pockets  of every group across the globe if u didn't get the memo.

I'm talking about systemic racism by the Israeli government and institutions.

L0NZ.

Quote from: Lucid Salvatore on February 01, 2022, 05:09:26 PM
Quote from: Cartierline on February 01, 2022, 04:01:00 PM
n

The Jews really love a pity party mess :dead:

!!!!

The amount of power they have in Hollywood & American politics makes me scream  :dead: there's only like 20 million Jews around the world (compared to the 2 billion Muslims & Christians). Why tf do the Jewish ppl have so much power? chile

it's why Drake is Drake


ATLien

February 01, 2022, 05:58:11 PM #41 Last Edit: February 01, 2022, 06:02:15 PM by Lady of Lithuania
Quote from: Amazing on February 01, 2022, 05:53:38 PM
Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on February 01, 2022, 05:38:10 PM
Palestinians have a well documented history of racism to Black people .:. Including calling condoleeza rice a "black spinster" and depicting her in illustrations as a monkey in their media.

So if we are looking to paint an entire people with one brush as opposed to case by case ...good luck finding a group of people in this world who are completely devoid of black racism .

There's kinda this general disdain for us in pockets  of every group across the globe if u didn't get the memo.

I'm talking about systemic racism by the Israeli government and institutions.
well racism is racism

I don't think any form is "better" or more acceptable/excusable than the other .

It's all toxic and damaging to the psyche of Black people who ingest or experience it.

But I see where ur going
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ATLien

February 01, 2022, 06:07:22 PM #42 Last Edit: February 01, 2022, 06:10:20 PM by Lady of Lithuania
I don't think Whoopi will be fired though

if she does get the ax that would be quite a reach

she def said some off the wall mess and should have researched that topic on Google before the cameras came on

but anyone who's reasonable should be able to see it was a mistake . And not malicious

obviously impact will usually override intent but she just had a Chilli "all lives matter " moment . The gorls were dragging GODlli for her mess but I felt the same way about her too.

Kwee is a lil ditzy. That's all. She's a celeb. Obviously Not a historian
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Annie

I do would like to say a lot of victims in the World War were from Germany and the Netherlands. It really had a terrible impact on our country and some of family members were forced to go to work in factories for Germans. They were not Jewish, it's just that most German men went to the army so they needed men to help create weapons. I have read a diary from a family member and they tried to sabotage production a lot. They almost died because they were depressed and didn't have much to eat. The war was terrible for a lot of people. My grandmother survived the bombings on her city. There are multiple cities completely destroyed because of bombs. The grandfather on my dad's side tried to fight the Germans but eventually had to surrender to them, just terrifying.

The conflict in Israel is completely different to me. I don't like what's going on there at all. I also think they are seen as holy at times..even tho they clearly caused deaths.

But I just wanted to say the Jews during the World War really suffered and it was horrible. But those families are not the ones living in Israel, starting shit right now. I have seen reports about rich entitled Jewish people from all over the world (also New York) buying land there and it's a big problem for the people who lived there for decades.

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ATLien

February 01, 2022, 06:34:26 PM #44 Last Edit: February 01, 2022, 06:41:14 PM by Lady of Lithuania
Quote from: annie on February 01, 2022, 06:27:52 PM
I do would like to say the Jews in the World War were mostly from Germany, the Netherlands etc. It really had a terrible impact on our country and some of family members were forced to go to work in factories for Germans. They were not Jewish, it's just that most German man went to the army so they needed men to help create weapons. I have read a diary from a family member and they tried to sabotage production a lot. They almost died because they were depressed and didn't have much to eat. The war was terrible for a lot of people. My grandmother survived the bombings on her city. There are multiple cities completely destroyed because of bombs. The grandfather on my dad's site tried to fight the Germans but eventually had to surrender to them, just terrifying.

The conflict in Israel is completely different to me. I don't like what's going on there at all. I also think they are seen as holy at times..even tho they clearly caused deaths.

But I just wanted to say the Jews during the World War really suffered and it was horrible. But those families are not the ones living in Israel right now.
Right.

Many Ashkenazim are descendants of people who left the middle east HUNDREDS and hundreds of years ago.

To later settle in Rhineland and ultimately in Eastern European countries. ...then migrating to America and other places.  Which explains their more unique and distinctive genetic makeup - a mix of Middle Eastern and Eastern European. They were AWAY from Israel so long that Europe became a significant part of their overall genetic makeup as a group.

A lot of people who died  (and fled for their lives) during the Holocaust never stepped foot into Israel in their lives, nor did their parents, or grandparents, or great grandparents.  They had genetic ties to Israel but no social/political ties. To lump all Jews from that era into one box with that mess that's going down in Israel is crazy.

I think this is what happens a lot...people speak out on this topic with such confidence, ready to make very bold and broad statements but may not know the full story.
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