The icki Drop Game **Nicki’s Flop Single Falls to #62**

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Brandy's Unconditional Ocean

Doja Cat's Demons song left the hot 100? Damn. These days if you reach the hot 100 at all, i think you should be able to call it a hit or moderate hit the way we used to do with "Top 40". Unless you're a big name, it's just so difficult now  :uhh:

stillpretty

September 19, 2023, 09:25:35 PM #61 Last Edit: September 19, 2023, 09:33:02 PM by MILKSHAKE
Quote from: Brandy's Unconditional Ocean on September 19, 2023, 09:19:19 PMDoja Cat's Demons song left the hot 100? Damn. These days if you reach the hot 100 at all, i think you should be able to call it a hit or moderate hit the way we used to do with "Top 40". Unless you're a big name, it's just so difficult now  :uhh:
armon said that in the video ...almost those exact words

he said with how saturated the industry is now, to reach the top 100 in itself should be considered a hit

insightful handsome self

 :blush:
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Ulysses

Quote from: Brandy's Unconditional Ocean on September 19, 2023, 09:19:19 PMDoja Cat's Demons song left the hot 100? Damn. These days if you reach the hot 100 at all, i think you should be able to call it a hit or moderate hit the way we used to do with "Top 40". Unless you're a big name, it's just so difficult now  :uhh:
It's actually easier now to have a song chart but more difficult to push full album units

stillpretty

Project started: 2014
Wrapped up: 2024

Significant Discovery: First known Black American family of Kalmyk descent

Takeaways: Be prepared to pivot, even when you think you're on the right track. Be OK with being wrong so you can get things right.

Kalmyks are tribal Mongolic people who settled in Russia. It's estimated to be only 300,000 Kalmyk descendants worldwide - with only 3,000 in America.



Grandpa and his Grandma ❤️

RAY7

Quote from: Ulysses on September 19, 2023, 09:48:03 PM
Quote from: Brandy's Unconditional Ocean on September 19, 2023, 09:19:19 PMDoja Cat's Demons song left the hot 100? Damn. These days if you reach the hot 100 at all, i think you should be able to call it a hit or moderate hit the way we used to do with "Top 40". Unless you're a big name, it's just so difficult now  :uhh:
It's actually easier now to have a song chart but more difficult to push full album units
it's very hard for Black artist of a certain age to get on the Hot100
Bran hasn't charted since like Put It Down
Usher charted for 1 week with Good Good
You have to get a lot of streams and radio play

stillpretty

September 19, 2023, 10:24:00 PM #66 Last Edit: September 19, 2023, 10:34:33 PM by MILKSHAKE
and if you look at the Hot 100 right now

there's definitely been a huge shift.

it's no longer hip-hop dominated and it has switched back to pop

consuela came in at a time where it was ALL about hip-hop on the hot 100.

she didn't have to compete with a lot of katy's and britney's and gagas.

now she kinda has to. nicki's been there and did that, and held her ground and then some.
doja's doing it now - grabbing her first solo #1 mess and hanging in the top 10.

but i honestly dont think consuela has the sheer talent to pull this off. she has good reason to be scared and hiding behind features and assists right now.

she's not a great rapper like nicki. shes not as musically inclined and an "artiste" downe like doja

she's just...there. en espanol. giggling and tryna get by on corny one-liners in her "raps"

and that's all shade aside. at the end of the day nicki's already gotten hers.
and then some. regardless of how this all turns out.

yall need to be praying for consuela. cuz if this WAP part 2 mess clearly didn't pan out how she planned
im scared for what's coming next


Project started: 2014
Wrapped up: 2024

Significant Discovery: First known Black American family of Kalmyk descent

Takeaways: Be prepared to pivot, even when you think you're on the right track. Be OK with being wrong so you can get things right.

Kalmyks are tribal Mongolic people who settled in Russia. It's estimated to be only 300,000 Kalmyk descendants worldwide - with only 3,000 in America.



Grandpa and his Grandma ❤️

Ulysses

Quote from: RAY7 on September 19, 2023, 10:01:12 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on September 19, 2023, 09:48:03 PM
Quote from: Brandy's Unconditional Ocean on September 19, 2023, 09:19:19 PMDoja Cat's Demons song left the hot 100? Damn. These days if you reach the hot 100 at all, i think you should be able to call it a hit or moderate hit the way we used to do with "Top 40". Unless you're a big name, it's just so difficult now  :uhh:
It's actually easier now to have a song chart but more difficult to push full album units
it's very hard for Black artist of a certain age to get on the Hot100
Bran hasn't charted since like Put It Down
Usher charted for 1 week with Good Good
You have to get a lot of streams and radio play
They aren't current artists. Any artist that has arrived in the streaming world has more chart advantages than artists in the past. Olivia Rodrigo just charted EVERY song from BOTH of her albums in the top 40. So this bitch literally has the same amount of "Top 40 hits" as some of our legends.

Aamerie.

Quote from: Ulysses on September 19, 2023, 10:27:11 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on September 19, 2023, 10:01:12 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on September 19, 2023, 09:48:03 PM
Quote from: Brandy's Unconditional Ocean on September 19, 2023, 09:19:19 PMDoja Cat's Demons song left the hot 100? Damn. These days if you reach the hot 100 at all, i think you should be able to call it a hit or moderate hit the way we used to do with "Top 40". Unless you're a big name, it's just so difficult now  :uhh:
It's actually easier now to have a song chart but more difficult to push full album units
it's very hard for Black artist of a certain age to get on the Hot100
Bran hasn't charted since like Put It Down
Usher charted for 1 week with Good Good
You have to get a lot of streams and radio play
They aren't current artists. Any artist that has arrived in the streaming world has more chart advantages than artists in the past. Olivia Rodrigo just charted EVERY song from BOTH of her albums in the top 40. So this bitch literally has the same amount of "Top 40 hits" as some of our legends.

thats gross  :plzstop:


Ulysses

Quote from: L0NZ. on September 19, 2023, 10:28:57 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on September 19, 2023, 10:27:11 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on September 19, 2023, 10:01:12 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on September 19, 2023, 09:48:03 PM
Quote from: Brandy's Unconditional Ocean on September 19, 2023, 09:19:19 PMDoja Cat's Demons song left the hot 100? Damn. These days if you reach the hot 100 at all, i think you should be able to call it a hit or moderate hit the way we used to do with "Top 40". Unless you're a big name, it's just so difficult now  :uhh:
It's actually easier now to have a song chart but more difficult to push full album units
it's very hard for Black artist of a certain age to get on the Hot100
Bran hasn't charted since like Put It Down
Usher charted for 1 week with Good Good
You have to get a lot of streams and radio play
They aren't current artists. Any artist that has arrived in the streaming world has more chart advantages than artists in the past. Olivia Rodrigo just charted EVERY song from BOTH of her albums in the top 40. So this bitch literally has the same amount of "Top 40 hits" as some of our legends.

thats gross  :plzstop:
Very.

stillpretty

September 19, 2023, 10:49:02 PM #70 Last Edit: September 19, 2023, 11:13:36 PM by MILKSHAKE
Quote from: Ulysses on September 19, 2023, 10:39:47 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on September 19, 2023, 10:28:57 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on September 19, 2023, 10:27:11 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on September 19, 2023, 10:01:12 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on September 19, 2023, 09:48:03 PM
Quote from: Brandy's Unconditional Ocean on September 19, 2023, 09:19:19 PMDoja Cat's Demons song left the hot 100? Damn. These days if you reach the hot 100 at all, i think you should be able to call it a hit or moderate hit the way we used to do with "Top 40". Unless you're a big name, it's just so difficult now  :uhh:
It's actually easier now to have a song chart but more difficult to push full album units
it's very hard for Black artist of a certain age to get on the Hot100
Bran hasn't charted since like Put It Down
Usher charted for 1 week with Good Good
You have to get a lot of streams and radio play
They aren't current artists. Any artist that has arrived in the streaming world has more chart advantages than artists in the past. Olivia Rodrigo just charted EVERY song from BOTH of her albums in the top 40. So this bitch literally has the same amount of "Top 40 hits" as some of our legends.

thats gross  :plzstop:
Very.
ultimately you're really not speaking to "its easy to get on the hot 100". you're speaking to how the formula for hot 100 success has changed due to a new era of music which includes streaming, and how that affects how artists show up on the chart.

"top 40" success is simply different in 2023 than it was in 1993. but these are still hugely successful, popular artists with machines behind them that are dominating the hot 100.

it is still success nonetheless

if it were that easy to get on the hot 100 we wouldn't even be having these conversations, we'd treat it like we treat Itunes charts. Like, nice that you did it....even something to note as an accomplishment

but we know Hot 100 placements involves a multitude of factors which contribute to your ranking - not just one. we still wait to see where our favs place on the chart for a reason. it's still relevant in measuring an artist's current influence and success in 2023, just like it was in 1993. However, the contributing factors for said ranking have changed.

comparing artists from 1998 to artists in 2023 with things like "omg i cant believe X has as many top 40 hits as X" will never be a fair or reasonable comparison. almost like comparing what a dollar can buy you now , to what it could buy you in 1940.  yes, much different....but its still a dollar.

i'd say keep comparisons of artists of earlier eras, to artists of earlier eras.
as they were competing in the same environment with the same metrics
Project started: 2014
Wrapped up: 2024

Significant Discovery: First known Black American family of Kalmyk descent

Takeaways: Be prepared to pivot, even when you think you're on the right track. Be OK with being wrong so you can get things right.

Kalmyks are tribal Mongolic people who settled in Russia. It's estimated to be only 300,000 Kalmyk descendants worldwide - with only 3,000 in America.



Grandpa and his Grandma ❤️

stillpretty

And the fact that consuela put THAT much effort and coin into her mess

Like PUSHIng with budget, promo , ads...
We are talking Millions of dollars

Just to land outside the top 10

That in itself should tell u how "easy" it is to get on the chart

Especially when u an untalented hoe
Project started: 2014
Wrapped up: 2024

Significant Discovery: First known Black American family of Kalmyk descent

Takeaways: Be prepared to pivot, even when you think you're on the right track. Be OK with being wrong so you can get things right.

Kalmyks are tribal Mongolic people who settled in Russia. It's estimated to be only 300,000 Kalmyk descendants worldwide - with only 3,000 in America.



Grandpa and his Grandma ❤️


Barbie Dangerous

Fro and Ray said a word! Like I said, Nicki even charting for a week is a major book at this point in her career let alone several and still receiving the plaques she is.