What's going on with Brandy & is she okay?!

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NEW MOON

December 03, 2023, 07:52:23 AM #165 Last Edit: December 03, 2023, 07:58:31 AM by NEW MOON
Quote from: MY HOUSE on December 03, 2023, 07:42:19 AM
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Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 03, 2023, 03:26:03 AMAfter 2/11 I learned my lesson, I think some of you need to realise the "comeback" is not happening, the big era is not happening, crazy visuals are not happening. Brandy needs to want to do these things and actively connect with people that will facilitate it, hell Silent could do a lot do that stuff himself and the fact he doesn't (and Brandy consider him a friend) tells me it's a choice and not management/label - at least not every time.


the bolded is what i think that's at the root of whats frustrating the gorls. so u hit the nail on the head there....

but id take it a step further and say to you that even if GHan wanted these things to happen,the likelihood of a major, mind-blowing "comeback" is slim.

and id take it one more step further and say Silent is not a magician. the way you just said "he could do a lot of this stuff!" is IMO, highly unrealistic and almost unfair to both him and GHan.

it's saying she has all these amazing ironclad resources at her doorstep (aka, a "machine") and is just refusing to use them. it's not that simple. it's rarely ever that simple in the music industry, especially in regards to an artist who experienced the height of their career in the 90s.

we're doing a lot of assuming here. so although you offered a solution in saying "guys let it go like i did", you kinda poured more gas on the fire  . an uno reverse, if u will.

the more realistic the gorls are, the more in-tune they are with the statistics and the history of incline-peak-decline in this industry, the less they will blame GHan for what they consider a lack of success or exposure.


How you talking about pouring gas on the fire and assumptions when you just made a whole dissertation based on an assumption of what you THINK they meant in regards to the Silent comment?

 :dead:
he literally said "Silent could do a lot of that stuff, but the fact that hes GHan's friend and it doesnt happen tells me it's a choice, not the label"

as in , "he could do a lot of things the gorls wanna see happen. but GHan just doesnt want it to happen so she says no thanks. so its not the label, its a choice."

was this a wildly imaginative interpretation?
tell which parts u feel i pulled from thin air.

The part where you said he "literally said" and then Rephrased it starting with "as in" to align with how you interpreted it. Lmao

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Quote from: NEW MOON on December 03, 2023, 07:52:23 AM
Quote from: MY HOUSE on December 03, 2023, 07:42:19 AM
Quote from: NEW MOON on December 03, 2023, 07:38:53 AM
Quote from: MY HOUSE on December 03, 2023, 07:18:31 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 03, 2023, 03:26:03 AMAfter 2/11 I learned my lesson, I think some of you need to realise the "comeback" is not happening, the big era is not happening, crazy visuals are not happening. Brandy needs to want to do these things and actively connect with people that will facilitate it, hell Silent could do a lot do that stuff himself and the fact he doesn't (and Brandy consider him a friend) tells me it's a choice and not management/label - at least not every time.


the bolded is what i think that's at the root of whats frustrating the gorls. so u hit the nail on the head there....

but id take it a step further and say to you that even if GHan wanted these things to happen,the likelihood of a major, mind-blowing "comeback" is slim.

and id take it one more step further and say Silent is not a magician. the way you just said "he could do a lot of this stuff!" is IMO, highly unrealistic and almost unfair to both him and GHan.

it's saying she has all these amazing ironclad resources at her doorstep (aka, a "machine") and is just refusing to use them. it's not that simple. it's rarely ever that simple in the music industry, especially in regards to an artist who experienced the height of their career in the 90s.

we're doing a lot of assuming here. so although you offered a solution in saying "guys let it go like i did", you kinda poured more gas on the fire  . an uno reverse, if u will.

the more realistic the gorls are, the more in-tune they are with the statistics and the history of incline-peak-decline in this industry, the less they will blame GHan for what they consider a lack of success or exposure.


How you talking about pouring gas on the fire and assumptions when you just made a whole dissertation based on an assumption of what you THINK they meant in regards to the Silent comment?

 :dead:
he literally said "Silent could do a lot of that stuff, but the fact that hes GHan's friend and it doesnt happen tells me it's a choice, not the label"

as in , "he could do a lot of things the gorls wanna see happen. but GHan just doesnt want it to happen so she says no thanks. so its not the label, its a choice."

was this a wildly imaginative interpretation?
tell which parts u feel i pulled from thin air.

The part where you said he "literally said" and the. Rephrased it with "as in" to align with your reasoning. Lmao
but he said Silent could facilitate things himself but GHan doesn't let him.

or at the very least, clearly implied that. am i missing something or are we just playing games right now
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December 03, 2023, 08:02:56 AM #167 Last Edit: December 03, 2023, 08:03:38 AM by NEW MOON
Quote from: MY HOUSE on December 03, 2023, 07:55:46 AM
Quote from: NEW MOON on December 03, 2023, 07:52:23 AM
Quote from: MY HOUSE on December 03, 2023, 07:42:19 AM
Quote from: NEW MOON on December 03, 2023, 07:38:53 AM
Quote from: MY HOUSE on December 03, 2023, 07:18:31 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 03, 2023, 03:26:03 AMAfter 2/11 I learned my lesson, I think some of you need to realise the "comeback" is not happening, the big era is not happening, crazy visuals are not happening. Brandy needs to want to do these things and actively connect with people that will facilitate it, hell Silent could do a lot do that stuff himself and the fact he doesn't (and Brandy consider him a friend) tells me it's a choice and not management/label - at least not every time.


the bolded is what i think that's at the root of whats frustrating the gorls. so u hit the nail on the head there....

but id take it a step further and say to you that even if GHan wanted these things to happen,the likelihood of a major, mind-blowing "comeback" is slim.

and id take it one more step further and say Silent is not a magician. the way you just said "he could do a lot of this stuff!" is IMO, highly unrealistic and almost unfair to both him and GHan.

it's saying she has all these amazing ironclad resources at her doorstep (aka, a "machine") and is just refusing to use them. it's not that simple. it's rarely ever that simple in the music industry, especially in regards to an artist who experienced the height of their career in the 90s.

we're doing a lot of assuming here. so although you offered a solution in saying "guys let it go like i did", you kinda poured more gas on the fire  . an uno reverse, if u will.

the more realistic the gorls are, the more in-tune they are with the statistics and the history of incline-peak-decline in this industry, the less they will blame GHan for what they consider a lack of success or exposure.


How you talking about pouring gas on the fire and assumptions when you just made a whole dissertation based on an assumption of what you THINK they meant in regards to the Silent comment?

 :dead:
he literally said "Silent could do a lot of that stuff, but the fact that hes GHan's friend and it doesnt happen tells me it's a choice, not the label"

as in , "he could do a lot of things the gorls wanna see happen. but GHan just doesnt want it to happen so she says no thanks. so its not the label, its a choice."

was this a wildly imaginative interpretation?
tell which parts u feel i pulled from thin air.

The part where you said he "literally said" and the. Rephrased it with "as in" to align with your reasoning. Lmao
but he said Silent could facilitate things himself but GHan doesn't let him.

or at the very least, clearly implied that. am i missing something or are we just playing games right now


Well in that instance idk. I think Silent could definitely give Brandy more consistency with her brand, if she wanted that.

I think he was attempting to do that when Brandy was going to relaunch as "The Next Brandy" and was vlogging and doing motivational interviews on her YouTube But that was short lived.

Gilgamesh.

December 03, 2023, 08:50:17 AM #168 Last Edit: December 03, 2023, 08:51:19 AM by Gilgamesh.
To be clear, I meant that if Brandy asked Silent to help her be more visible/social media active he could do it. Now that wouldn't mean we'd get Never Say Never 2.0 but it would be a significant step-up from what she's been serving the past decade lol.

And we know he's had these conversations with Brandy because he's alluded to it several times on this very board. For example, we've all said Brandy should do the Terrell Show, Silent confirmed recently she doesn't want to do it. That's a choice, not a resources issue.

And I'm not even dragging Brandy because it's been this way for so long it's what I expect.

Gilgamesh.

December 03, 2023, 08:57:21 AM #169 Last Edit: December 03, 2023, 08:58:30 AM by Gilgamesh.
And I never said she had the "machine" behind her either. Posting on IG doesn't take a machine, announcing when you're scheduled to perform doesn't take a machine  :dead:

In her Christmas album thread I said a few stripped down acoustic versions of the songs performed at home would be cute, hire a guitarist and an MUA for the day - have Syrai record it on her phone, like these are simple things.

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Hey guys, Ghan is not okay and she won't be doing anymore promo for the rest of the year. Now what are you gonna dew about it?



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December 03, 2023, 08:59:56 AM #171 Last Edit: December 03, 2023, 09:01:39 AM by MY HOUSE
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 03, 2023, 08:57:21 AMAnd I never said she had the "machine" behind her either. 


I agree. I already edited "machine" out of my reply to you a few mins ago.

You were def speaking to what you assume are untapped resources, but not a much larger "machine".
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December 03, 2023, 09:00:41 AM #172 Last Edit: December 03, 2023, 09:01:31 AM by STUNNA GOD
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 03, 2023, 03:26:03 AMAfter 2/11 I learned my lesson, I think some of you need to realize the "comeback" is not happening, the big era is not happening, crazy visuals are not happening. Brandy needs to want to do these things and actively connect with people that will facilitate it
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After 2/11, my behaviors as a stan shifted for many reasons. I accepted that if the comeback didn't happen with THIS album, it wasn't happening. But more importantly, I accepted that Brandy wasn't going to change and recognized that it's much deeper than a "label/management" issue. Yes, she needs to want to actively connect with the right people to get shit done. But more importantly, she needs to want to actively connect with her fucking "FANS." :uhh: A damn near decade long gap is absolutely ridiculous. If she's not invested in her own music career, how the hell can we be?

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If she wants to continue operating like this, she can. I just won't be entertaining it!
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I'm sure Brandy's ok she just like to reclusive these days and I don't blame her.

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December 03, 2023, 11:12:47 AM #175 Last Edit: December 03, 2023, 11:28:22 AM by MY HOUSE
the fact that some of ya'll were ready to take that post about GMA/ABC saying GHan rescheduled a performance on their network without them knowing....

without even stopping to question it . without saying, wait.... :calmdownsis: show me receipts. something doesn't sound right .

i think that's an opportunity for you to question whether you may be a bit too "on ready" to critique her.

a whole new narrative of "now she's burning bridges with the big networks! omfg...shes toast!" was about to unfold until i made a point of asking for receipts and we learned that it was a post from a fan page, not a multi-billion dollar company saying someone rescheduled something on their own network without them knowing about it.

not saying intentions are bad, im just saying slow down a bit and give her the benefit of the doubt a bit more often. im sure it'll make you feel a bit better.

i think considering what we've seen in here, that's a fair request.
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Quote from: MY HOUSE on December 03, 2023, 11:12:47 AMthe fact that some of ya'll were ready to take that post about GMA/ABC saying GHan rescheduled a performance on their network without them knowing....

without even stopping to question it . without saying, wait.... :calmdownsis: show me receipts. something doesn't sound right .

i think that's an opportunity for you to question whether you may be a bit too "on ready" to critique her.

a whole new narrative of "now she's burning bridges with the big networks! omfg...shes toast!" was about to unfold until i made a point of asking for receipts and we learned that it was a post from a fan page, not a multi-billion dollar company saying someone rescheduled something on their own network without them knowing about it.

not saying intentions are bad, im just saying slow down a bit and give her the benefit of the doubt a bit more often. im sure it'll make you feel a bit better.

i think considering what we've seen in here, that's a fair request.

Being fair isn't a problem. What's unfortunate is we go 4 years between albums with little promotion. She is inconsistent. We haven't had a real tour since Bill Clinton was in office. She drops albums then disappears. Her work ethic lacks. Her talent abounds. But we can't want more from her than she wants to supply. There is no real communication team. She could be out singing at every major city tree lighting. She could go live decorating her tree while playing her new album, she could do radio interviews from her home. Maybe she is much more of a recluse than we know at the moment.


But it's okay for the fans who stay locked to be disappointed. Our fave dropped a Christmas album that a huge majority of her fan base don't even know about! And that's including the fans that fell off a while back

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December 03, 2023, 03:18:59 PM #177 Last Edit: December 03, 2023, 03:38:06 PM by MY HOUSE
Quote from: Detatlantavibes on December 03, 2023, 02:27:33 PM
Quote from: MY HOUSE on December 03, 2023, 11:12:47 AMthe fact that some of ya'll were ready to take that post about GMA/ABC saying GHan rescheduled a performance on their network without them knowing....

without even stopping to question it . without saying, wait.... :calmdownsis: show me receipts. something doesn't sound right .

i think that's an opportunity for you to question whether you may be a bit too "on ready" to critique her.

a whole new narrative of "now she's burning bridges with the big networks! omfg...shes toast!" was about to unfold until i made a point of asking for receipts and we learned that it was a post from a fan page, not a multi-billion dollar company saying someone rescheduled something on their own network without them knowing about it.

not saying intentions are bad, im just saying slow down a bit and give her the benefit of the doubt a bit more often. im sure it'll make you feel a bit better.

i think considering what we've seen in here, that's a fair request.

Being fair isn't a problem. What's unfortunate is we go 4 years between albums with little promotion. She is inconsistent. We haven't had a real tour since Bill Clinton was in office. She drops albums then disappears. Her work ethic lacks. Her talent abounds. But we can't want more from her than she wants to supply. There is no real communication team. She could be out singing at every major city tree lighting. She could go live decorating her tree while playing her new album, she could do radio interviews from her home. Maybe she is much more of a recluse than we know at the moment.


But it's okay for the fans who stay locked to be disappointed. Our fave dropped a Christmas album that a huge majority of her fan base don't even know about! And that's including the fans that fell off a while back
honestly if someone's an actual fan of GHan I'm sure they're following her on Instagram or Twitter or Facebook

This isn't 1998 where everyone's reliant on the media to get them news on people they wanna get news and updates from .

To say most of GHans fans aren't aware of this album is a pretty ambitious statement to make, considering all of this 

The people who care and are checking for her most likely know about the album.

her social media acts as her "bat signal" for the core fans in 2023.

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Quote from: Detatlantavibes on December 03, 2023, 02:27:33 PM
Quote from: MY HOUSE on December 03, 2023, 11:12:47 AMthe fact that some of ya'll were ready to take that post about GMA/ABC saying GHan rescheduled a performance on their network without them knowing....

without even stopping to question it . without saying, wait.... :calmdownsis: show me receipts. something doesn't sound right .

i think that's an opportunity for you to question whether you may be a bit too "on ready" to critique her.

a whole new narrative of "now she's burning bridges with the big networks! omfg...shes toast!" was about to unfold until i made a point of asking for receipts and we learned that it was a post from a fan page, not a multi-billion dollar company saying someone rescheduled something on their own network without them knowing about it.

not saying intentions are bad, im just saying slow down a bit and give her the benefit of the doubt a bit more often. im sure it'll make you feel a bit better.

i think considering what we've seen in here, that's a fair request.

Being fair isn't a problem. What's unfortunate is we go 4 years between albums with little promotion. She is inconsistent. We haven't had a real tour since Bill Clinton was in office. She drops albums then disappears. Her work ethic lacks. Her talent abounds. But we can't want more from her than she wants to supply. There is no real communication team. She could be out singing at every major city tree lighting. She could go live decorating her tree while playing her new album, she could do radio interviews from her home. Maybe she is much more of a recluse than we know at the moment.


But it's okay for the fans who stay locked to be disappointed. Our fave dropped a Christmas album that a huge majority of her fan base don't even know about! And that's including the fans that fell off a while back

Next year is going to be interesting because as the years go once hardcore fans are now becoming casuals. So it will be interesting to see how she plans to convince the general public, casuals and hardcore fans to purchase movie tickets while only being seen for group press and no communications team.

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December 03, 2023, 03:50:17 PM #179 Last Edit: December 03, 2023, 03:51:59 PM by DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾
Everybody doesn't use social media. And Brandy doesn't post that often where you can guarantee a casual fan would be aware of her 1 or 2 posts about new music.

People learn about music in many ways today. Brandy should be taking advantage of every outlet to maximize her reach.
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