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NEW MOON

December 17, 2023, 07:57:08 AM #75 Last Edit: December 17, 2023, 08:17:45 AM by NEW MOON
Quote from: KANG THANGZ on December 17, 2023, 07:43:38 AM
Quote from: NEW MOON on December 17, 2023, 07:28:21 AMI think it's common for victims who are betrayed by someone they trust to have some cognitive dissonance and to return to their abuser on/off. Especially if they make false promises. Eventually you reach a breaking point.

He probably felt like he could continue a working relationship and was afraid of being blacklisted at some point. It's a lot of stuff to unpack. Especially for him as a man with a dense ego.

what remotely reasonable person would see a possibility of a healthy working relationship with someone who asks them to strip down for 100k though?

Does he say that he kept working with this person afterwards?

It's not like he presents as some naive person who was taken advantage of. I think that's what you're speaking to. And yes that happens unfortunately.

He's presenting as someone who has always been well aware of when lines are being crossed, someone who's on their toes and someone who has strict personal values in place to address those instances - even if it's at the cost of an opportunity or financial gain .

That doesn't sound like someone who'll say "ahhh I'm sure he was just kiddin and it won't happen again lolz. Lemme stick around and wait for him to stop sexually harassing me."

Someone who's smart enough to clock the game and strong enough to kick it back is also someone who's very likely smart enough to know it won't stop, and may actually worsen as you continue to stick around. No matter how many times you say no.

I'm not doubting that he was a victim. I'm doubting that it was Tyler - the man he's consistently worked with over recent years.


Nothing about a victim operating from a place of emotional trauma would be "reasonable". He is a victim of abuse to someone who betrayed him and he had a friendship with.

I don't think you understand the nuance of emotional trauma and how that can affect someone's decision making especially in such a complicated personal and professional relationship.

He is presenting as someone is self aware NOW.

And you are doubting him...because whether it was Tyler or someone else...this was someone he continued to have some sort of acquaintance or professional relationship with even after initial harassment. And that isn't uncommon in these situations. You're kinda victim shaming him by questioning why he wouldn't sever professional ties and not be naive to think it would stop. Hindsight is 20/20 no matter how smart he may be.

just because he was bold enough to affirm his boundaries after the incident. That doesn't negate that he still felt stifled and conflicted in how to maintain his professional relationship.

He even said in his video he wished he had done more.

The Only BLACK Kalmyks

December 17, 2023, 08:01:08 AM #76 Last Edit: December 17, 2023, 08:08:07 AM by KANG THANGZ
Quote from: NEW MOON on December 17, 2023, 07:57:08 AM
Quote from: KANG THANGZ on December 17, 2023, 07:43:38 AM
Quote from: NEW MOON on December 17, 2023, 07:28:21 AMI think it's common for victims who are betrayed by someone they trust to have some cognitive dissonance and to return to their abuser on/off. Especially if they make false promises. Eventually you reach a breaking point.

He probably felt like he could continue a working relationship and was afraid of being blacklisted at some point. It's a lot of stuff to unpack. Especially for him as a man with a dense ego.

what remotely reasonable person would see a possibility of a healthy working relationship with someone who asks them to strip down for 100k though?

Does he say that he kept working with this person afterwards?

It's not like he presents as some naive person who was taken advantage of. I think that's what you're speaking to. And yes that happens unfortunately.

He's presenting as someone who has always been well aware of when lines are being crossed, someone who's on their toes and someone who has strict personal values in place to address those instances - even if it's at the cost of an opportunity or financial gain .

That doesn't sound like someone who'll say "ahhh I'm sure he was just kiddin and it won't happen again lolz. Lemme stick around and wait for him to stop sexually harassing me."

Someone who's smart enough to clock the game and strong enough to kick it back is also someone who's very likely smart enough to know it won't stop, and may actually worsen as you continue to stick around. No matter how many times you say no.

I'm not doubting that he was a victim. I'm doubting that it was Tyler - the man he's consistently worked with over recent years.


Nothing about a victim operating from a place of emotional trauma would be "reasonable". He is a victim of abuse to someone who betrayed him and he had a friendship with.

I don't think you understand the nuance of emotional trauma and how that can affect someone's decision making especially in such a complicated personal and professional relationship.

He is presenting as someone is self aware NOW.
he's actually presenting as someone who's always been aware.

Referencing how his personal morals and standards prevented him from agreeing to anything he felt would compromise them. Even with only $3K in the bank , and being offered 100k just to remove his pants - and not be touched at all.

Those are strong principles and values. It's knowing who you are and what you stand for, and what you absolutely WONT stand for.

And this is my point.
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Ulysses

Go the Cassie route and wait 9 years to air it completely out...

NEW MOON

December 17, 2023, 08:27:30 AM #78 Last Edit: December 17, 2023, 08:30:03 AM by NEW MOON
Quote from: KANG THANGZ on December 17, 2023, 08:01:08 AM
Quote from: NEW MOON on December 17, 2023, 07:57:08 AM
Quote from: KANG THANGZ on December 17, 2023, 07:43:38 AM
Quote from: NEW MOON on December 17, 2023, 07:28:21 AMI think it's common for victims who are betrayed by someone they trust to have some cognitive dissonance and to return to their abuser on/off. Especially if they make false promises. Eventually you reach a breaking point.

He probably felt like he could continue a working relationship and was afraid of being blacklisted at some point. It's a lot of stuff to unpack. Especially for him as a man with a dense ego.

what remotely reasonable person would see a possibility of a healthy working relationship with someone who asks them to strip down for 100k though?

Does he say that he kept working with this person afterwards?

It's not like he presents as some naive person who was taken advantage of. I think that's what you're speaking to. And yes that happens unfortunately.

He's presenting as someone who has always been well aware of when lines are being crossed, someone who's on their toes and someone who has strict personal values in place to address those instances - even if it's at the cost of an opportunity or financial gain .

That doesn't sound like someone who'll say "ahhh I'm sure he was just kiddin and it won't happen again lolz. Lemme stick around and wait for him to stop sexually harassing me."

Someone who's smart enough to clock the game and strong enough to kick it back is also someone who's very likely smart enough to know it won't stop, and may actually worsen as you continue to stick around. No matter how many times you say no.

I'm not doubting that he was a victim. I'm doubting that it was Tyler - the man he's consistently worked with over recent years.


Nothing about a victim operating from a place of emotional trauma would be "reasonable". He is a victim of abuse to someone who betrayed him and he had a friendship with.

I don't think you understand the nuance of emotional trauma and how that can affect someone's decision making especially in such a complicated personal and professional relationship.

He is presenting as someone is self aware NOW.
he's actually presenting as someone who's always been aware.

Referencing how his personal morals and standards prevented him from agreeing to anything he felt would compromise them. Even with only $3K in the bank , and being offered 100k just to remove his pants - and not be touched at all.

Those are strong principles and values. It's knowing who you are and what you stand for, and what you absolutely WONT stand for.

And this is my point.



You can be self aware and still have a growing awareness of certain events years later.

His morals prevented him from doing things he didn't want to do. That doesn't mean it was easy to immediately sever a pre-existing working relationship without anyone else becoming collateral damage.

The point is he already had a working relationship with this person. With other peoples livelihoods more than likely dependent on their partnership. Sure it wasn't easy for him to just pull the plug. This isn't the same situation as the other billionaire trying to start a professional endeavor with him to which he refused and walked away. With, Tyler (allegedly) he was already hooked in. I'm sure it would take a while for him to unpack that.

The Only BLACK Kalmyks

Quote from: NEW MOON on December 17, 2023, 08:27:30 AM
Quote from: KANG THANGZ on December 17, 2023, 08:01:08 AM
Quote from: NEW MOON on December 17, 2023, 07:57:08 AM
Quote from: KANG THANGZ on December 17, 2023, 07:43:38 AM
Quote from: NEW MOON on December 17, 2023, 07:28:21 AMI think it's common for victims who are betrayed by someone they trust to have some cognitive dissonance and to return to their abuser on/off. Especially if they make false promises. Eventually you reach a breaking point.

He probably felt like he could continue a working relationship and was afraid of being blacklisted at some point. It's a lot of stuff to unpack. Especially for him as a man with a dense ego.

what remotely reasonable person would see a possibility of a healthy working relationship with someone who asks them to strip down for 100k though?

Does he say that he kept working with this person afterwards?

It's not like he presents as some naive person who was taken advantage of. I think that's what you're speaking to. And yes that happens unfortunately.

He's presenting as someone who has always been well aware of when lines are being crossed, someone who's on their toes and someone who has strict personal values in place to address those instances - even if it's at the cost of an opportunity or financial gain .

That doesn't sound like someone who'll say "ahhh I'm sure he was just kiddin and it won't happen again lolz. Lemme stick around and wait for him to stop sexually harassing me."

Someone who's smart enough to clock the game and strong enough to kick it back is also someone who's very likely smart enough to know it won't stop, and may actually worsen as you continue to stick around. No matter how many times you say no.

I'm not doubting that he was a victim. I'm doubting that it was Tyler - the man he's consistently worked with over recent years.


Nothing about a victim operating from a place of emotional trauma would be "reasonable". He is a victim of abuse to someone who betrayed him and he had a friendship with.

I don't think you understand the nuance of emotional trauma and how that can affect someone's decision making especially in such a complicated personal and professional relationship.

He is presenting as someone is self aware NOW.
he's actually presenting as someone who's always been aware.

Referencing how his personal morals and standards prevented him from agreeing to anything he felt would compromise them. Even with only $3K in the bank , and being offered 100k just to remove his pants - and not be touched at all.

Those are strong principles and values. It's knowing who you are and what you stand for, and what you absolutely WONT stand for.

And this is my point.



You -


it aint tyler hoe
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Significant Discovery: First known Black American family of Kalmyk descent

Takeaways: Be prepared to pivot, even when you think you're on the right track. Be OK with being wrong so you can get things right.

Kalmyks are tribal Mongolic people who settled in Russia. It's estimated that only 300,000 Kalmyk descendants exist worldwide - with only 3,000 in America.



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NEW MOON

December 17, 2023, 08:33:54 AM #80 Last Edit: December 17, 2023, 08:36:02 AM by NEW MOON
Quote from: KANG THANGZ on December 17, 2023, 08:30:08 AM
Quote from: NEW MOON on December 17, 2023, 08:27:30 AM
Quote from: KANG THANGZ on December 17, 2023, 08:01:08 AM
Quote from: NEW MOON on December 17, 2023, 07:57:08 AM
Quote from: KANG THANGZ on December 17, 2023, 07:43:38 AM
Quote from: NEW MOON on December 17, 2023, 07:28:21 AMI think it's common for victims who are betrayed by someone they trust to have some cognitive dissonance and to return to their abuser on/off. Especially if they make false promises. Eventually you reach a breaking point.

He probably felt like he could continue a working relationship and was afraid of being blacklisted at some point. It's a lot of stuff to unpack. Especially for him as a man with a dense ego.

what remotely reasonable person would see a possibility of a healthy working relationship with someone who asks them to strip down for 100k though?

Does he say that he kept working with this person afterwards?

It's not like he presents as some naive person who was taken advantage of. I think that's what you're speaking to. And yes that happens unfortunately.

He's presenting as someone who has always been well aware of when lines are being crossed, someone who's on their toes and someone who has strict personal values in place to address those instances - even if it's at the cost of an opportunity or financial gain .

That doesn't sound like someone who'll say "ahhh I'm sure he was just kiddin and it won't happen again lolz. Lemme stick around and wait for him to stop sexually harassing me."

Someone who's smart enough to clock the game and strong enough to kick it back is also someone who's very likely smart enough to know it won't stop, and may actually worsen as you continue to stick around. No matter how many times you say no.

I'm not doubting that he was a victim. I'm doubting that it was Tyler - the man he's consistently worked with over recent years.


Nothing about a victim operating from a place of emotional trauma would be "reasonable". He is a victim of abuse to someone who betrayed him and he had a friendship with.

I don't think you understand the nuance of emotional trauma and how that can affect someone's decision making especially in such a complicated personal and professional relationship.

He is presenting as someone is self aware NOW.
he's actually presenting as someone who's always been aware.

Referencing how his personal morals and standards prevented him from agreeing to anything he felt would compromise them. Even with only $3K in the bank , and being offered 100k just to remove his pants - and not be touched at all.

Those are strong principles and values. It's knowing who you are and what you stand for, and what you absolutely WONT stand for.

And this is my point.



You -


it aint tyler hoe

Like he said y'all deify that man as if he's some Black Messiah.

Meanwhile these men are the biggest terrorists in their own communities.

Tyler isn't off limits from receiving doubt.
 


The Only BLACK Kalmyks

Quote from: NEW MOON on December 17, 2023, 08:33:54 AM
Quote from: KANG THANGZ on December 17, 2023, 08:30:08 AM
Quote from: NEW MOON on December 17, 2023, 08:27:30 AM
Quote from: KANG THANGZ on December 17, 2023, 08:01:08 AM
Quote from: NEW MOON on December 17, 2023, 07:57:08 AM
Quote from: KANG THANGZ on December 17, 2023, 07:43:38 AM
Quote from: NEW MOON on December 17, 2023, 07:28:21 AMI think it's common for victims who are betrayed by someone they trust to have some cognitive dissonance and to return to their abuser on/off. Especially if they make false promises. Eventually you reach a breaking point.

He probably felt like he could continue a working relationship and was afraid of being blacklisted at some point. It's a lot of stuff to unpack. Especially for him as a man with a dense ego.

what remotely reasonable person would see a possibility of a healthy working relationship with someone who asks them to strip down for 100k though?

Does he say that he kept working with this person afterwards?

It's not like he presents as some naive person who was taken advantage of. I think that's what you're speaking to. And yes that happens unfortunately.

He's presenting as someone who has always been well aware of when lines are being crossed, someone who's on their toes and someone who has strict personal values in place to address those instances - even if it's at the cost of an opportunity or financial gain .

That doesn't sound like someone who'll say "ahhh I'm sure he was just kiddin and it won't happen again lolz. Lemme stick around and wait for him to stop sexually harassing me."

Someone who's smart enough to clock the game and strong enough to kick it back is also someone who's very likely smart enough to know it won't stop, and may actually worsen as you continue to stick around. No matter how many times you say no.

I'm not doubting that he was a victim. I'm doubting that it was Tyler - the man he's consistently worked with over recent years.


Nothing about a victim operating from a place of emotional trauma would be "reasonable". He is a victim of abuse to someone who betrayed him and he had a friendship with.

I don't think you understand the nuance of emotional trauma and how that can affect someone's decision making especially in such a complicated personal and professional relationship.

He is presenting as someone is self aware NOW.
he's actually presenting as someone who's always been aware.

Referencing how his personal morals and standards prevented him from agreeing to anything he felt would compromise them. Even with only $3K in the bank , and being offered 100k just to remove his pants - and not be touched at all.

Those are strong principles and values. It's knowing who you are and what you stand for, and what you absolutely WONT stand for.

And this is my point.



You -


it aint tyler hoe

Like he said y'all deify that man as if he's some Black Messiah.
 


but he is the Black Me.. :unsure:
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Kalmyks are tribal Mongolic people who settled in Russia. It's estimated that only 300,000 Kalmyk descendants exist worldwide - with only 3,000 in America.



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L0NZ.

with all that fkn smoke that's been around Tyler regarding things like this. I'm sure there's fire nnnnnn. I mean????



Justaway_

Fro why are you defending harassement behavior so much?  :usuresis:

The Only BLACK Kalmyks

December 17, 2023, 11:50:55 AM #85 Last Edit: December 17, 2023, 11:54:27 AM by KANG THANGZ
Quote from: Justaway_ on December 17, 2023, 11:47:14 AMFro why are you defending harassement behavior so much?  :usuresis:
there's a difference between justifying a behavior itself and giving reasoning as to why you feel people are pointing to the wrong person.

especially considering the accuser has yet to even clearly name someone.

does that make sense?
Project started: 2014 Wrapped up: 2024

Significant Discovery: First known Black American family of Kalmyk descent

Takeaways: Be prepared to pivot, even when you think you're on the right track. Be OK with being wrong so you can get things right.

Kalmyks are tribal Mongolic people who settled in Russia. It's estimated that only 300,000 Kalmyk descendants exist worldwide - with only 3,000 in America.



Grandpa and his Grandma ❤️

The Only BLACK Kalmyks

i would actually be very disappointed and damn near heartbroken if this was indeed Tyler in question

because i hold him in very high regard and this type of behavior IMO is beneath him.

i just don't believe it. and until a name is named i have every right not to believe who people THINK it is.
Project started: 2014 Wrapped up: 2024

Significant Discovery: First known Black American family of Kalmyk descent

Takeaways: Be prepared to pivot, even when you think you're on the right track. Be OK with being wrong so you can get things right.

Kalmyks are tribal Mongolic people who settled in Russia. It's estimated that only 300,000 Kalmyk descendants exist worldwide - with only 3,000 in America.



Grandpa and his Grandma ❤️

DopeSoul.


The Only BLACK Kalmyks

Project started: 2014 Wrapped up: 2024

Significant Discovery: First known Black American family of Kalmyk descent

Takeaways: Be prepared to pivot, even when you think you're on the right track. Be OK with being wrong so you can get things right.

Kalmyks are tribal Mongolic people who settled in Russia. It's estimated that only 300,000 Kalmyk descendants exist worldwide - with only 3,000 in America.



Grandpa and his Grandma ❤️

The Only BLACK Kalmyks

basically.

am mean any other fuckin questions


Project started: 2014 Wrapped up: 2024

Significant Discovery: First known Black American family of Kalmyk descent

Takeaways: Be prepared to pivot, even when you think you're on the right track. Be OK with being wrong so you can get things right.

Kalmyks are tribal Mongolic people who settled in Russia. It's estimated that only 300,000 Kalmyk descendants exist worldwide - with only 3,000 in America.



Grandpa and his Grandma ❤️