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January 14, 2024, 03:17:28 PM #15 Last Edit: January 14, 2024, 03:17:50 PM by DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾
I don't think it's really just slave films, it's black trauma films as a whole. Anytime a period piece is done on the Black experience it tends to focus on us in horrible situations.  And those are the ones that get the big push during the award season too!

Black cinema needs to honestly put a cap on these type of movies. It's time for new stories, true universal stories.
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January 14, 2024, 03:44:55 PM #16 Last Edit: January 14, 2024, 03:57:05 PM by Mongols of Russia
Quote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on January 14, 2024, 03:17:28 PMI don't think it's really just slave films, it's black trauma films as a whole. Anytime a period piece is done on the Black experience it tends to focus on us in horrible situations.  And those are the ones that get the big push during the award season too!

Black cinema needs to honestly put a cap on these type of movies. It's time for new stories, true universal stories.
well a lot of Black Americans actually love these stories because they see themselves reflected

"Being Black in America is hard." ...this message actually resonates with a LOT of Black people, guys. So of course these studios are gonna formulate shows/films that have this message baked in somewhere.

Hell, let's talk about being Black AND gay in America, and how fun that is - especially in your younger years. Like "POSE" did.

I don't love "POSE" just cuz it has great vogue scenes and cute fashion. I love it cuz it touches on real shit and real struggles. It resonates with me in a way that it would never resonate with Josh.

But personally I think there's good balance. we've had shows like Black-ish out there that shows BA's living middle class life as professionals, etc. Which many of us can also accept and relate to.

But there is value in having other stories told.

Project started: 2014 Wrapped up: 2024

Significant Discovery: First known Black American family of Kalmyk descent

Takeaways: Be prepared to pivot, even when you think you're on the right track. Be OK with being wrong so you can get things right.

Kalmyks are tribal Mongolic people who settled in Russia. It's estimated that only 300,000 Kalmyk descendants exist worldwide - with only 3,000 in America.



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January 14, 2024, 04:11:36 PM #17 Last Edit: January 14, 2024, 04:12:04 PM by DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾
Quote from: Mongols of Russia on January 14, 2024, 03:44:55 PM
Quote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on January 14, 2024, 03:17:28 PMI don't think it's really just slave films, it's black trauma films as a whole. Anytime a period piece is done on the Black experience it tends to focus on us in horrible situations.  And those are the ones that get the big push during the award season too!

Black cinema needs to honestly put a cap on these type of movies. It's time for new stories, true universal stories.
well a lot of Black Americans actually love these stories because they see themselves reflected

"Being Black in America is hard." ...this message actually resonates with a LOT of Black people, guys. So of course these studios are gonna formulate shows/films that have this message baked in somewhere.

Hell, let's talk about gay AND Black in America, and how that fun that is. Like "POSE" did.

I don't love "POSE" just cuz it has great vogue scenes and cute fashion. I love it cuz it touches on real shit and real struggles. It resonates with me in a way that it would never resonate with Josh.

But personally I think there's good balance. we've had shows like Black-ish out there that shows BA's living middle class life as professionals, etc. Which many of us can also accept and relate to.

But there is value in having other stories told.



I understand where you're coming from, and I agree with you. It's definitely important to have some of  those stories on the screen. I disagree about their being balance though, I seen improvement on the TV front but far as film it's not. For every "Black Panther" you have a 100 "slave and race" movies to counter that.

I just want to see more films where race and my ancestors play no part it's draining.  Even "BlackIsh" had a  racial focus. Why couldn't it been called "Modern Family"?
IDK, Robyn's Back!!!🥂



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The Only BLACK Kalmyks

Quote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on January 14, 2024, 04:11:36 PM
Quote from: Mongols of Russia on January 14, 2024, 03:44:55 PM
Quote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on January 14, 2024, 03:17:28 PMI don't think it's really just slave films, it's black trauma films as a whole. Anytime a period piece is done on the Black experience it tends to focus on us in horrible situations.  And those are the ones that get the big push during the award season too!

Black cinema needs to honestly put a cap on these type of movies. It's time for new stories, true universal stories.
well a lot of Black Americans actually love these stories because they see themselves reflected

"Being Black in America is hard." ...this message actually resonates with a LOT of Black people, guys. So of course these studios are gonna formulate shows/films that have this message baked in somewhere.

Hell, let's talk about gay AND Black in America, and how that fun that is. Like "POSE" did.

I don't love "POSE" just cuz it has great vogue scenes and cute fashion. I love it cuz it touches on real shit and real struggles. It resonates with me in a way that it would never resonate with Josh.

But personally I think there's good balance. we've had shows like Black-ish out there that shows BA's living middle class life as professionals, etc. Which many of us can also accept and relate to.

But there is value in having other stories told.



I understand where you're coming from, and I agree with you. It's definitely important to have some of  those stories on the screen. I disagree about their being balance though, I seen improvement on the TV front but far as film it's not. For every "Black Panther" you have a 100 "slave and race" movies to counter that.

I just want to see more films where race and my ancestors play no part it's draining.  Even "BlackIsh" had a  racial focus. Why couldn't it been called "Modern Family"?
i was def gonna add to my post that even Black-ish tackled racial issues.

but the reality is that even Black people who "make it" in America still have struggles.
different struggles and challenges from those who don't "make it", but def worth mentioning.

also, its kinda funny (or ironic?) that we're having this discussion

considering that there's such a huge conversation going on right now about how Black actors are being treated unfairly ...paid unfairly, etc. in Hollywood

the struggle never fucking stops, it seems. and that's reflected in the stories that are told
Project started: 2014 Wrapped up: 2024

Significant Discovery: First known Black American family of Kalmyk descent

Takeaways: Be prepared to pivot, even when you think you're on the right track. Be OK with being wrong so you can get things right.

Kalmyks are tribal Mongolic people who settled in Russia. It's estimated that only 300,000 Kalmyk descendants exist worldwide - with only 3,000 in America.



Grandpa and his Grandma ❤️

Demetri Collier Electronics 🤴🏾

Quote from: Mongols of Russia on January 14, 2024, 04:21:05 PM
Quote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on January 14, 2024, 04:11:36 PM
Quote from: Mongols of Russia on January 14, 2024, 03:44:55 PM
Quote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on January 14, 2024, 03:17:28 PMI don't think it's really just slave films, it's black trauma films as a whole. Anytime a period piece is done on the Black experience it tends to focus on us in horrible situations.  And those are the ones that get the big push during the award season too!

Black cinema needs to honestly put a cap on these type of movies. It's time for new stories, true universal stories.
well a lot of Black Americans actually love these stories because they see themselves reflected

"Being Black in America is hard." ...this message actually resonates with a LOT of Black people, guys. So of course these studios are gonna formulate shows/films that have this message baked in somewhere.

Hell, let's talk about gay AND Black in America, and how that fun that is. Like "POSE" did.

I don't love "POSE" just cuz it has great vogue scenes and cute fashion. I love it cuz it touches on real shit and real struggles. It resonates with me in a way that it would never resonate with Josh.

But personally I think there's good balance. we've had shows like Black-ish out there that shows BA's living middle class life as professionals, etc. Which many of us can also accept and relate to.

But there is value in having other stories told.



I understand where you're coming from, and I agree with you. It's definitely important to have some of  those stories on the screen. I disagree about their being balance though, I seen improvement on the TV front but far as film it's not. For every "Black Panther" you have a 100 "slave and race" movies to counter that.

I just want to see more films where race and my ancestors play no part it's draining.  Even "BlackIsh" had a  racial focus. Why couldn't it been called "Modern Family"?
i was def gonna add to my post that even Black-ish tackled racial issues.

but the reality is that even Black people who "make it" in America still have struggles.
different struggles and challenges from those who don't "make it", but def worth mentioning.

also, its kinda funny (or ironic?) that we're having this discussion

considering that there's such a huge conversation going on right now about how Black actors are being treated unfairly ...paid unfairly, etc. in Hollywood

the struggle never fucking stops, it seems. and that's reflected in the stories that are told

!!!! This is 100% correct but does every film/show have to have it? I will say no.
IDK, Robyn's Back!!!🥂



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Buy The Stars✨

Quote from: Mongols of Russia on January 14, 2024, 02:43:01 PM
Quote from: Buy The Stars✨ on January 14, 2024, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on January 14, 2024, 01:27:05 PMThe slave movies do need to stop though. There's enough of them out now I don't see what's the point of continuing. I know these yts out here are enjoying seeing us in chains again
We need more movies showing our versatility

i agree with this.. i HATE seeing them over and over again. 

how many times can we see a slave be hung or sold at a damn auction house.


question

how many "slave movies" have come out within the past 5-10 years?

Either I'm clearly missing this massive influx of mainstream movies about slavery

Release after release after release ... just flying over my head ...

Or any time a period piece on Black History comes out which involves slavery, there's complaints and discomfort  about it - so much to the point where things get inflated and exaggerated  .

 

just from a quick google search:

Free State of Jones,Descendant, Emancipation, birth of a nation , and harriett.


also you have to remember. not everyone feels the same way about them as you.  it makes me feel uncomfortable, having to watch us be slaves and and serve white ppl like movies like the help.  i have seen enough of them personally.  I think its time for different types of feels.

The Only BLACK Kalmyks

January 14, 2024, 04:45:10 PM #21 Last Edit: January 14, 2024, 04:49:54 PM by Mongols of Russia
Quote from: Buy The Stars✨ on January 14, 2024, 04:42:23 PM
Quote from: Mongols of Russia on January 14, 2024, 02:43:01 PM
Quote from: Buy The Stars✨ on January 14, 2024, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on January 14, 2024, 01:27:05 PMThe slave movies do need to stop though. There's enough of them out now I don't see what's the point of continuing. I know these yts out here are enjoying seeing us in chains again
We need more movies showing our versatility

i agree with this.. i HATE seeing them over and over again. 

how many times can we see a slave be hung or sold at a damn auction house.


question

how many "slave movies" have come out within the past 5-10 years?

Either I'm clearly missing this massive influx of mainstream movies about slavery

Release after release after release ... just flying over my head ...

Or any time a period piece on Black History comes out which involves slavery, there's complaints and discomfort  about it - so much to the point where things get inflated and exaggerated  .

 

just from a quick google search:

Free State of Jones,Descendant, Emancipation, birth of a nation , and harriett.


also you have to remember. not everyone feels the same way about them as you.  it makes me feel uncomfortable, having to watch us be slaves and and serve white ppl like movies like the help.  i have seen enough of them personally.  I think its time for different types of feels.
so 5 movies within the past decade.

and yes, stories about slavery make me uncomfortable too, with the exception of Harriett which I actually found very inspiring and uplifting for the most part.

and I acknowledged the discomfort I had when watching "When They See Us" and said I would never watch it again.

But that doesn't mean that the story of those 5 men shouldn't be told and put out there, just cuz I'm uncomfortable watching it and find it to be very triggering.

Two things can be true at the same time

As in: Watching "When They See Us" is a horrible experience for me - emotionally.
But, their story should be told.
Project started: 2014 Wrapped up: 2024

Significant Discovery: First known Black American family of Kalmyk descent

Takeaways: Be prepared to pivot, even when you think you're on the right track. Be OK with being wrong so you can get things right.

Kalmyks are tribal Mongolic people who settled in Russia. It's estimated that only 300,000 Kalmyk descendants exist worldwide - with only 3,000 in America.



Grandpa and his Grandma ❤️

RAY7

Quote from: Mongols of Russia on January 14, 2024, 01:47:17 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on January 14, 2024, 01:27:05 PMThe slave movies do need to stop though. There's enough of them out now I don't see what's the point of continuing. I know these yts out here are enjoying seeing us in chains again
We need more movies showing our versatility

If anything keeping these stories out there is teaching people ...new generations .. about the depths of atrocities that our ancestors faced .

Things that are simply not being taught in schools - where American history is sugarcoated for younger generations .

If we want reparations to come at some point it's in our best interest to keep these things on a radar in every way possible - and yes media is a very powerful tool for that .

Other groups of people got their version of reparations by constantly reminding the world of what their ancestors faced and how brutal it was .

Not by saying "Will y'all stop broadcasting this shit 🙄 I'm sick of it!"

Slavery is part of Black American history.

If we stop focusing on that we might as well put in a request people to start brushing BLM era or civil rights/Jim crow era under the rug , or any other eras of history where we faced very tough times .

Like it or not all of it  is connected.
Interwoven . You cannot talk about BLM without talking civil rights / Jim Crow. Can't talk about that without bringing us back to the slavery era .

You just cannot tell our story as a people in this country without going to the root.

Not if you wanna tell it right . It's impossible .


there's like 20 different movies that anyone can go back and watch to learn about that though. Nothing new is being done anymore because there's really not much left to say from Roots to Amistad to 12 Yrs A Slave, Emancipation, Woman King, Harriet
All these just off the top of my head. Tell me which part of slavery hasn't been told yet? Now there is more Black history to be told. More civil rights leaders, inventors, doctors etc to cover that would be something new and interesting

The Only BLACK Kalmyks

Quote from: RAY7 on January 14, 2024, 04:50:50 PM
Quote from: Mongols of Russia on January 14, 2024, 01:47:17 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on January 14, 2024, 01:27:05 PMThe slave movies do need to stop though. There's enough of them out now I don't see what's the point of continuing. I know these yts out here are enjoying seeing us in chains again
We need more movies showing our versatility

If anything keeping these stories out there is teaching people ...new generations .. about the depths of atrocities that our ancestors faced .

Things that are simply not being taught in schools - where American history is sugarcoated for younger generations .

If we want reparations to come at some point it's in our best interest to keep these things on a radar in every way possible - and yes media is a very powerful tool for that .

Other groups of people got their version of reparations by constantly reminding the world of what their ancestors faced and how brutal it was .

Not by saying "Will y'all stop broadcasting this shit 🙄 I'm sick of it!"

Slavery is part of Black American history.

If we stop focusing on that we might as well put in a request people to start brushing BLM era or civil rights/Jim crow era under the rug , or any other eras of history where we faced very tough times .

Like it or not all of it  is connected.
Interwoven . You cannot talk about BLM without talking civil rights / Jim Crow. Can't talk about that without bringing us back to the slavery era .

You just cannot tell our story as a people in this country without going to the root.

Not if you wanna tell it right . It's impossible .


there's like 20 different movies that anyone can go back and watch to learn about that though. Nothing new is being done anymore because there's really not much left to say from Roots to Amistad to 12 Yrs A Slave, Emancipation, Woman King, Harriet
All these just off the top of my head. Tell me which part of slavery hasn't been told yet? Now there is more Black history to be told. More civil rights leaders, inventors, doctors etc to cover that would be something new and interesting
personally i dont think Black American history needs to be "new and interesting". I think it just needs to continue to be told.

there's a plethora of movies on the Holocaust out there

i just did a Google search and was literally overwhelmed and shocked at how many movies are listed - ultimately all touching on the same mess, from different angles.

Schindlers List, Anne Frank, "The Boy in the Striped Pajamas"  :dead: the list is literally endless

All for an event in history that lasted approximately 10 years.

We're talking about a chapter of history that lasted hundreds of years. so keep telling the got damn story , remixing it, putting it in high def....flat screens, big screens, plasmas....Hulu, Netflix, Disney+

keep it tf up  :cheerup:

and if anything maybe it's not touched on enough.
considering all the mess that pops up for other teas





Project started: 2014 Wrapped up: 2024

Significant Discovery: First known Black American family of Kalmyk descent

Takeaways: Be prepared to pivot, even when you think you're on the right track. Be OK with being wrong so you can get things right.

Kalmyks are tribal Mongolic people who settled in Russia. It's estimated that only 300,000 Kalmyk descendants exist worldwide - with only 3,000 in America.



Grandpa and his Grandma ❤️

Amazing

Quote from: Buy The Stars✨ on January 14, 2024, 02:22:33 PM
Quote from: iheart4everbrandy on January 13, 2024, 07:56:28 PMI watched it but preferred the National Geographic's telling of Aretha's story with Cynthia Erivo


!!!!!!!

OMG.  so i wasnt a fan of cynthia doing it and i put it off for year but over the summer i reluctantly watched it and was HOOKED.

I HATE when they get these British actors to play real Americans. like when she played harriet tubman. :dead: i just dont like it. 

there are so many actors here in America but she slayed.

I also think the mini series benefited from it being like ten, 8 hour episodes or something like that.  there was alot we saw in that but yeah i enjoyed it.

That series was great too. They got 10 hours plus to really tell Aretha's story.

Cynthia's voice is an actual revelation but I didn't like her singing in the series. I don't know something was off for me. I don't think it was best work. But the actual series was great none the less.

In the movie JHud started off a bit shakey in the beginning but soon after she embodied Aretha for me better than Cynthia did.

I. Hate. Monica.

Speaking of black films. Did anyone watch "Rustin" on Netflix?

Amazing

Quote from: Dr. Jackie fckin Walters on January 14, 2024, 11:42:11 PMSpeaking of black films. Did anyone watch "Rustin" on Netflix?

Is it good? Is it worth watching?

Amazing

The JHud show renewed for 3rd season.
 :tistheseas:


iheart4everbrandy

Quote from: Buy The Stars✨ on January 14, 2024, 02:22:33 PM
Quote from: iheart4everbrandy on January 13, 2024, 07:56:28 PMI watched it but preferred the National Geographic's telling of Aretha's story with Cynthia Erivo


!!!!!!!

OMG.  so i wasnt a fan of cynthia doing it and i put it off for year but over the summer i reluctantly watched it and was HOOKED.

I HATE when they get these British actors to play real Americans. like when she played harriet tubman. :dead: i just dont like it. 

there are so many actors here in America but she slayed.

I also think the mini series benefited from it being like ten, 8 hour episodes or something like that.  there was alot we saw in that but yeah i enjoyed it.

I totally understand how you feel about the outsourcing of talent... but it had to be hard to find someone to embody Aretha's nuances and  personality traits as well as have the ability to sing her music. I think they struck gold with Cynthia. I appreciated her approach to the role over Jennifer's. I feel like Jennifer was playing Jennifer playing Aretha. And I do agree, it was brilliant for National Geographic to make it a series. They had the opportunity to really flush out the timeline of events in Aretha's life. The movie was slow and rushed at the same time.

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Quote from: Amazing on January 15, 2024, 12:21:44 AMThe JHud show renewed for 3rd season.
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