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[RAY7]

There is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance

matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money

We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.

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The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.

Bey joined Girls Tyme as a child before Mathew became the manager. It was her dream. It wasn't Mathew's idea

a lot of child stars show interest in these things early on

How many kids don't wanna be a superstar or and just like the people they see on TV.

It is ultimately up to the parents to decide how invested they get into the tea.

There's no such thing as "working together" as a child with your parents . You do what they feel is best.

You are a child. They are adults.

I get what you're saying but there's a difference when a parent is helping a child do something the child wants vs a parent pushing a child to do things they didn't want to do

Look at Blu. She asked to dance on tour with Bey. Bey did not push her out there and actually was nervous about it but she supported what her child wanted.

right. She was nervous and careful about it

she didn't push her out, book her photo shoots and come up with her stage name.

As the parent, she's deciding how invested Blu will get into things before she's truly old enough to understand (and honestly, CONSENT to) what comes with it.

Being on stage with mommy for a couple shows is something cute.

maybe because all Blu asked for was to dance? She sang on Brown Skin Girl too
When you have the means, you can let your child pursue whatever THEY want

[Aalonso.]

There is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance

matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money

We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.

Bbbbbbbbbbbbb

The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.

Bey joined Girls Tyme as a child before Mathew became the manager. It was her dream. It wasn't Mathew's idea

nnnnnnn what little girl DOESNT want to sing and dance

the billions in the world who can't sing or dance and would rather be doctors, lawyers or whatever else

All of them sing and dance around with hairbrushes hun. She sang around the house! Made up a group!

[Aalonso.]

Does anyone know what Michael actually wanted to do with his life, since being an entertainer wasn't his choice?

[RAY7]

There is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance

matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money

We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.

Bbbbbbbbbbbbb

The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.

Bey joined Girls Tyme as a child before Mathew became the manager. It was her dream. It wasn't Mathew's idea

a lot of child stars show interest in these things early on

How many kids don't wanna be a superstar or and just like the people they see on TV.

It is ultimately up to the parents to decide how invested they get into the tea.

There's no such thing as "working together" as a child with your parents . You do what they feel is best.

You are a child. They are adults.

I get what you're saying but there's a difference when a parent is helping a child do something the child wants vs a parent pushing a child to do things they didn't want to do

Youre saying they wanted to be in bootcamp?

if that's what it took to hone their craft, yes

[RAY7]

There is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance

matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money

We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.

Bbbbbbbbbbbbb

The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.

Bey joined Girls Tyme as a child before Mathew became the manager. It was her dream. It wasn't Mathew's idea

nnnnnnn what little girl DOESNT want to sing and dance

the billions in the world who can't sing or dance and would rather be doctors, lawyers or whatever else

All of them sing and dance around with hairbrushes hun. She sang around the house! Made up a group!

who sang around the house?

[united nations]

There is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance

matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money

We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.

Bbbbbbbbbbbbb

The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.

Bey joined Girls Tyme as a child before Mathew became the manager. It was her dream. It wasn't Mathew's idea

a lot of child stars show interest in these things early on

How many kids don't wanna be a superstar or and just like the people they see on TV.

It is ultimately up to the parents to decide how invested they get into the tea.

There's no such thing as "working together" as a child with your parents . You do what they feel is best.

You are a child. They are adults.

I get what you're saying but there's a difference when a parent is helping a child do something the child wants vs a parent pushing a child to do things they didn't want to do

Look at Blu. She asked to dance on tour with Bey. Bey did not push her out there and actually was nervous about it but she supported what her child wanted.

right. She was nervous and careful about it

she didn't push her out, book her photo shoots and come up with her stage name.

As the parent, she's deciding how invested Blu will get into things before she's truly old enough to understand (and honestly, CONSENT to) what comes with it.

Being on stage with mommy for a couple shows is something cute.

maybe because all Blu asked for was to dance? She sang on Brown Skin Girl too
When you have the means, you can let your child pursue whatever THEY want

this is all great but ultimately the #1 thing show moms say is "it's what my child wanted. I just supported it"

While everyone on the outside can clearly see the show parent wanted it for their own reasons.

That's why Matt and Joe are seen the same.

Let's get back to the basics.
Dnndndnd and reality

[Aalonso.]

I just wouldn't say a it's a child's drea

There is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance

matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money

We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.

Bbbbbbbbbbbbb

The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.

Bey joined Girls Tyme as a child before Mathew became the manager. It was her dream. It wasn't Mathew's idea

a lot of child stars show interest in these things early on

How many kids don't wanna be a superstar or and just like the people they see on TV.

It is ultimately up to the parents to decide how invested they get into the tea.

There's no such thing as "working together" as a child with your parents . You do what they feel is best.

You are a child. They are adults.

I get what you're saying but there's a difference when a parent is helping a child do something the child wants vs a parent pushing a child to do things they didn't want to do

Youre saying they wanted to be in bootcamp?

if that's what it took to hone their craft, yes

Would there have been a bootcamp without Matthew making them do it?

[Aalonso.]

There is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance

matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money

We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.

Bbbbbbbbbbbbb

The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.

Bey joined Girls Tyme as a child before Mathew became the manager. It was her dream. It wasn't Mathew's idea

a lot of child stars show interest in these things early on

How many kids don't wanna be a superstar or and just like the people they see on TV.

It is ultimately up to the parents to decide how invested they get into the tea.

There's no such thing as "working together" as a child with your parents . You do what they feel is best.

You are a child. They are adults.

I get what you're saying but there's a difference when a parent is helping a child do something the child wants vs a parent pushing a child to do things they didn't want to do

Look at Blu. She asked to dance on tour with Bey. Bey did not push her out there and actually was nervous about it but she supported what her child wanted.

right. She was nervous and careful about it

she didn't push her out, book her photo shoots and come up with her stage name.

As the parent, she's deciding how invested Blu will get into things before she's truly old enough to understand (and honestly, CONSENT to) what comes with it.

Being on stage with mommy for a couple shows is something cute.

maybe because all Blu asked for was to dance? She sang on Brown Skin Girl too
When you have the means, you can let your child pursue whatever THEY want

this is all great but ultimately the #1 thing show moms say is "it's what my child wanted. I just supported it"

While everyone on the outside can clearly say the show parent wanted it for their own reasons.

That's why Matt and Joe are seen the same.

Let's get back to the basics.
Dnndndnd and reality

n. Same goal, different means.

[Aalonso.]

Like didn't Matthew quit his job mess? Ch. At that point Im 100% SURE it was giving "unt uhn.... this GONE HAVE TO WORK."

[The Brandy Barbie]

 

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Did she lie?

lol Yes, her assuming the parents were in it all for themselves. Most people in the hood try to find ways to get their kids in a better situation. Joe just recognized that he had talented kids, and that should get them out of the hood.

[united nations]

 

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Did she lie?

lol Yes, her assuming the parents were in it all for themselves. Most people in the hood try to find ways to get their kids in a better situation. Joe just recognized that he had talented kids, and that should get them out of the hood.

wait, didn't Michael actually "love dancing and singing" too?

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yeah that's always how these stories start off tbh.

there has to be a certain talent and energy there for a parent to PUSH.

for Michael, it was clearly innate . something in him that jumped out at everyone, something that his brothers didn't have

and his father wanted to capitalize on that. michael loved to dance and sing, but as a manager/parent, Joe (and Matthew) literally made it their business to make sure their children understood it's a business.

[The Brandy Barbie]

From how it was shown in the Jackson 5 movie, the kids started singing and playing Joe's guitar on their own. Most of them were only thinking about winning talent shows at school and things, but Michael already wanted to be a star like his his favorite singer, James Brown.

[RAY7]

 

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Did she lie?

lol Yes, her assuming the parents were in it all for themselves. Most people in the hood try to find ways to get their kids in a better situation. Joe just recognized that he had talented kids, and that should get them out of the hood.

wait, didn't Michael actually "love dancing and singing" too?

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yeah that's always how these stories start off tbh.

there has to be a certain talent and energy there for a parent to PUSH.

for Michael, it was clearly innate . something in him that jumped out at everyone, something that his brothers didn't have

and his father wanted to capitalize on that. michael loved to dance and sing, but as a manager/parent, Joe (and Matthew) literally made it their business to make sure their children understood it's a business.

thats cool for Michael
What about the other 9 kids?

[RAY7]

Like didn't Matthew quit his job mess? Ch. At that point Im 100% SURE it was giving "unt uhn.... this GONE HAVE TO WORK."

after Girls Tyme lost on Star Search he then quit his job to become manager

[united nations]

 

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Did she lie?

lol Yes, her assuming the parents were in it all for themselves. Most people in the hood try to find ways to get their kids in a better situation. Joe just recognized that he had talented kids, and that should get them out of the hood.

wait, didn't Michael actually "love dancing and singing" too?

sdsdsdssdsdds

yeah that's always how these stories start off tbh.

there has to be a certain talent and energy there for a parent to PUSH.

for Michael, it was clearly innate . something in him that jumped out at everyone, something that his brothers didn't have

and his father wanted to capitalize on that. michael loved to dance and sing, but as a manager/parent, Joe (and Matthew) literally made it their business to make sure their children understood it's a business.

thats cool for Michael
What about the other 9 kids?

yeah I'm looking up tea on Joe and Janet

Janet did not want to be a singer at all, but Joe told her that's what she was gonna be.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/janet-jackson-never-wanted-singer.html/

Joe was horrible.

although there are parallels between him and Matt, as i said earlier in here...he was MUCH more toxic.

poor Jans.