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Erika Alexander (Living Single) also gave her two cents. keep swiping to see her take.

honestly I'm happy that Tichina's personal experience wasn't a bad one. we shouldn't WANT Black women to feel bad or targeted for any reason - especially not for the sake of debate

but there's a clear a difference between the way Tichina approaches this conversation and the way Erika approaches it.

Erika is the primary reason that ReLiving Single Podcast made my top 5 watched list on YouTube for 2025. She's just amazing to listen to. And look at tbh. Beautiful self. Her take on this topic is, IMO, perfectly reasonable and fair.

Ari was made out to be some crazy delusional loon and it really upset me cuz I knew she wasn't just making it up to be edgy, and there were certainly other women with a similar phenotype who may feel this way.

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I don't remember much of Martin outside of the famous clips and essential episodes, did he ever joke about her skin color? I feel like Pam may be missing the point.

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I don't remember much of Martin outside of the famous clips and essential episodes, did he ever joke about her skin color? I feel like Pam may be missing the point.

he never directly made fun of her skin color

it was usually jokes about her hair texture (beady beads) , or calling her an animal/beast

which may confuse some people who are from a different era because people keep saying "colorism" when he never literally called her darkie or anything. but all the nappy head, "u look like a dog" comments....they easily fall under the umbrella. it's a tad complex and it takes a certain lens

but honestly I'm not shocked Erika has a different take cuz she comes off as more of a critical thinker.

i like that Erika didn't point fingers or accuse anyone of being intentionally malicious, while calling a thing a thing.

people may have been upset with Ari cuz they FELT she was attacking Martin, even though she never really accused him of doing anything intentionally. she just said the jokes made her uncomfortable. and people were upset about that

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Yea it's great that Tichina wasn't affected. That's where it stops. She doesnt understand that her perception, or even her experience of the way it happened, doesn't change how colorism is insidiously perpetrated and normalized no matter how jokingly it's presented, and then blasted on national Tv for everyone to consume. Just because you didn't know you had beady-beads doesn't mean Martin wasnt harboring internal feelings about them. Looking at Martins relationships, I mean....

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Animal! Beady bead!

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and honestly that's a danger of "cancel culture"

Ari touched on something personal which was genuine and everyone became super defensive of 'Martin' because we're not used to acknowledging things about our favs or favorite shows AND still allowing ourselves to love them regardless.

it's either "we love them they're perfect" or "CANCELLED!"

Ari got such swift backlash because people didn't want Martin "canceled".

Erika Alexander represents the ability to walk and chew gum at the same time. She's not "angry" or "lashing out" or calling for people's jobs, she's just saying "wow there was some shit on my show that was questionable. Interesting. But it was part of the times in the 90s" and keeping it pushing. and still doing ReLiving Single podcast with all those questionable moments included.

GODpita's cousin self  

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Yea it's great that Tichina wasn't affected. That's where it stops. She doesnt understand that her perception, or even her experience of the way it happened, doesn't change how colorism is insidiously perpetrated and normalized no matter how jokingly it's presented, and then blasted on national Tv for everyone to consume. Just because you didn't know you had beady-beads doesn't mean Martin wasnt harboring internal feelings about them. Looking at Martins relationships, I mean....

i LOVE Tichina so honestly didn't want to come off as being critical of her

especially since I believe she didn't have a bad experience with Martin

but yeah. I'm SO glad Erika spoke up cuz everyone just woulda used Tichina's mess as more ammo against Ari in their case of calling her a delusional nutjob.

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Animal! Beady bead!

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i love Martin but wouldn't be surprised at all if he had a complex.

people's "jokes" say a lot about them whether they realize it or not

especially with other puzzle pieces like this lying around

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but there's a clear a difference between the way Tichina approaches this conversation and the way Erika approaches it.

Ari was made out to be some crazy delusional loon and it really upset me cuz I knew she wasn't just making it up to be edgy, and there were certainly other women with a similar phenotype who may feel this way.

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Love Tichina but I didn't like the way she tried to dismiss it initially.

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but there's a clear a difference between the way Tichina approaches this conversation and the way Erika approaches it.

Ari was made out to be some crazy delusional loon and it really upset me cuz I knew she wasn't just making it up to be edgy, and there were certainly other women with a similar phenotype who may feel this way.

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Love Tichina but I didn't like the way she tried to dismiss it initially.

low key i can kinda understand

some Black women don't want to be the "victim!" - even if they do see some questionable moments at play or in retrospect

ultimately Tichina/"Pam" was kinda thrown into a heated conversation when she was somewhere minding her business and just tryna live her life.

that had to make her uncomfortable too - especially when she understandably has no personal issue with Martin and loves him. i believe her when she never felt malicious intent

im just so so so glad Erika said something.

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I don't remember much of Martin outside of the famous clips and essential episodes, did he ever joke about her skin color? I feel like Pam may be missing the point.

i remember, i used to be glued to tv every week. so, the thing is everyone (the viewers) looked at pam as a dime piece, 10/10. that was the irony and humor of the exaggerated jokes martin made. i think the way society has shifted with us seeing a spike in internal colorism amongst the black community, people are kinda removing the show from its context in history at that time and looking at it through the scope of today's lense, which i think is causing a skewed interpretation of that specific show/dynamic.

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I don't remember much of Martin outside of the famous clips and essential episodes, did he ever joke about her skin color? I feel like Pam may be missing the point.

i remember, i used to be glued to tv every week. so, the thing is everyone (the viewers) looked at pam as a dime piece, 10/10. that was the irony and humor of the exaggerated jokes martin made. i think the way society has shifted with us seeing a spike in internal colorism amongst the black community, people are kinda removing the show from its context in history at that time and looking at it through the scope of today's lense, which i think is causing a skewed interpretation of that specific show/dynamic.

Erika Alexander is a smart woman. she wasn't "shifted" by anyone and has a VERY bright mind of her own.

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 just say "you're being overly sensitive" and be done with it .

That's your message.

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but there's a clear a difference between the way Tichina approaches this conversation and the way Erika approaches it.

Ari was made out to be some crazy delusional loon and it really upset me cuz I knew she wasn't just making it up to be edgy, and there were certainly other women with a similar phenotype who may feel this way.

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Love Tichina but I didn't like the way she tried to dismiss it initially.

low key i can kinda understand

some Black women don't want to be the "victim!" - even if they do see some questionable moments at play or in retrospect

ultimately Tichina/"Pam" was kinda thrown into a heated conversation when she was somewhere minding her business and just tryna live her life.

that had to make her uncomfortable too - especially when she understandably has no personal issue with Martin and loves him. i believe her when she never felt malicious intent

im just so so so glad Erika said something.

Yes I get it. Erika articulated so well, as she always does, I expected the same from Tichina where she can acknowledge the colorism but that doesn't require her to attack the writers-actors of the show nor does she have to dismiss Ari's observation.

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but there's a clear a difference between the way Tichina approaches this conversation and the way Erika approaches it.

Ari was made out to be some crazy delusional loon and it really upset me cuz I knew she wasn't just making it up to be edgy, and there were certainly other women with a similar phenotype who may feel this way.

View this post on Instagram

Love Tichina but I didn't like the way she tried to dismiss it initially.

low key i can kinda understand

some Black women don't want to be the "victim!" - even if they do see some questionable moments at play or in retrospect

ultimately Tichina/"Pam" was kinda thrown into a heated conversation when she was somewhere minding her business and just tryna live her life.

that had to make her uncomfortable too - especially when she understandably has no personal issue with Martin and loves him. i believe her when she never felt malicious intent

im just so so so glad Erika said something.

Yes I get it. Erika articulated so well, as she always does, I expected the same from Tichina where she can acknowledge the colorism but that doesn't require her to attack the writers-actors of the show nor does she have to dismiss Ari's observation.

that has to be hard though

Her friend Martin was at the helm of that show, that her BEST friend kinda brought her into

If tichina has blinders on and doesn't care to dig DEEP I get it.

Doing so could taint some of the best memories and times of her life with people she is still friends with. It's a unique situation .

I feel Erika would dig in regardless of situation but not everyone can be Erika.

But like you said tichinas response coulda still been nicer. It's almost like she was low key mocking Ari