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[Russian Fury]

ed buck came to mind

the one that was hiring prostitutes and killing them?

I was LITERALLY about to say that is NOT the same

yall thinking NO old white rich men have dealings with hood people is out of touch to say the least.

What you're talking about is apples and oranges and I'm not even gonna dignify this idiocy with a thought out response. If u think thats even REMOTELY the same conversation than peace be with u

see above post....and peace be with u too

No need to see anything.

u prob should see that Ray is assuming "friendships" are "real" and is basing his entire argument on that.

feelings, not facts.

but i wouldn't blame you for skimming over it a bit

idgaf what Ray is saying.   

i figured you did since you were kinda quoting and cosigning it. totally my mistake

[RAY7]

ed buck came to mind

the one that was hiring prostitutes and killing them?

I was LITERALLY about to say that is NOT the same

yall thinking NO old white rich men have dealings with hood people is out of touch to say the least.

What you're talking about is apples and oranges and I'm not even gonna dignify this idiocy with a thought out response. If u think thats even REMOTELY the same conversation than peace be with u

see above post....and peace be with u too

No need to see anything. So yea, if yall dont have a valid example then just switch gears 

they really have nothing. And the ONLY time they could come up when a rich white man was around broke Black men it was because he wanted to rape and KILL them
Fmgfffdh
So yea

[Plastic.]

jigga man going to jail, that's what i'm gathering

 

[Russian Fury]

Ray you don't have a leg to stand on when you're assuming friendships with these Old White men (of all people) with Black folks is "genuine"

get up on ya good foot.

[RAY7]

Ed Buck is merely the poster child for a very real thing.

Weird old rich White men can be some of the trashiest, drug obsessed, people on Earth

people thinking they'd be "above!" having "Bronx hoodlums" in close proximity to them is a kii.
it's giving internalized classism. i hate to say it but it is.

if anything a druggie off the street corner is a match made in heaven for these sick fucks.

30 years in federal prison for what prosecutors called the "deadly practice of luring people — typically young Black men, and those experiencing homelessness, addiction, and/or poverty — to his West Hollywood apartment" and injected them, sometimes against their will, with methamphetamine and other drugs. That nearly decadelong practice led to the deaths of two men, Gemmel Moore and Timothy Dean.

https://www.courthousenews.com/political-donor-ed-buck-sentenced-to-30-years-in-overdose-deaths-of-two-black-men/

why are you equating victims to friends? This is not the same topic.

you fail to realize "friendship" and exploitation can be intertwined.
as in, it doesn't have to be one or the other.

you can be someone's "friend" and be their victim. you can be someone's "lover" and be their victim.

can someone pinch me? i HAVE to be in an alternate dimension right now

they CAN BE intertwined but that's not the topic?
In these files we're discussing, how are Jay z and Pusha T in the same situation as these men that Ed Buck killed? Does it say they were coerced? Drugged? Raped?

let's recap:

your argument was "oh im sure rich old white men love hanging with niggas from da hood!    "

I said "many do."

You said "prove it."

I gave an example of a old rich White politician who invited "hood" Black men into his HOME to "hang out", with "fun" and drugs included.

Now we're here.

If anything above is inaccurate please correct it.

there's this thing called CONTEXT
You are comparing genuine companionship

here's the problem.

you're ASSUMING "genuine companionship".

unless you're the 2nd coming of Miss Cleo i'm having a hard time understanding how you're able to conclusively determine that all motives are pure and that the "friendship" is "real".

the only thing we can confirm as FACT is if people hang around one another or are spotted together often. that is a fact.

i like to stick to facts.

arent you in here saying you can't trust a 30 yr old dating a 18/19 yr old because they "might go lower"

i never stated as fact that all 30+ year old men who date 18 year olds,  date 14 year olds too

sndjjnsdjndsjn

nice try but i clearly presented it as my opinion and personal thought process.

you're conclusively stating that "friendships" were "genuine" as if it's fact when it's not.

um this is all based on you trying to prove my opinion wrong that rich white men do not socialize with regular Black men from the hood. That wasn't presented that it is a 100% fact. It was clearly a generalization

[RAY7]

Ray you don't have a leg to stand on when you're assuming friendships

plural? You only named 1 person

[Russian Fury]

Ed Buck is merely the poster child for a very real thing.

Weird old rich White men can be some of the trashiest, drug obsessed, people on Earth

people thinking they'd be "above!" having "Bronx hoodlums" in close proximity to them is a kii.
it's giving internalized classism. i hate to say it but it is.

if anything a druggie off the street corner is a match made in heaven for these sick fucks.

30 years in federal prison for what prosecutors called the "deadly practice of luring people — typically young Black men, and those experiencing homelessness, addiction, and/or poverty — to his West Hollywood apartment" and injected them, sometimes against their will, with methamphetamine and other drugs. That nearly decadelong practice led to the deaths of two men, Gemmel Moore and Timothy Dean.

https://www.courthousenews.com/political-donor-ed-buck-sentenced-to-30-years-in-overdose-deaths-of-two-black-men/

why are you equating victims to friends? This is not the same topic.

you fail to realize "friendship" and exploitation can be intertwined.
as in, it doesn't have to be one or the other.

you can be someone's "friend" and be their victim. you can be someone's "lover" and be their victim.

can someone pinch me? i HAVE to be in an alternate dimension right now

they CAN BE intertwined but that's not the topic?
In these files we're discussing, how are Jay z and Pusha T in the same situation as these men that Ed Buck killed? Does it say they were coerced? Drugged? Raped?

let's recap:

your argument was "oh im sure rich old white men love hanging with niggas from da hood!    "

I said "many do."

You said "prove it."

I gave an example of a old rich White politician who invited "hood" Black men into his HOME to "hang out", with "fun" and drugs included.

Now we're here.

If anything above is inaccurate please correct it.

there's this thing called CONTEXT
You are comparing genuine companionship

here's the problem.

you're ASSUMING "genuine companionship".

unless you're the 2nd coming of Miss Cleo i'm having a hard time understanding how you're able to conclusively determine that all motives are pure and that the "friendship" is "real".

the only thing we can confirm as FACT is if people hang around one another or are spotted together often. that is a fact.

i like to stick to facts.

arent you in here saying you can't trust a 30 yr old dating a 18/19 yr old because they "might go lower"

i never stated as fact that all 30+ year old men who date 18 year olds,  date 14 year olds too

sndjjnsdjndsjn

nice try but i clearly presented it as my opinion and personal thought process.

you're conclusively stating that "friendships" were "genuine" as if it's fact when it's not.

um this is all based on you trying to prove my opinion wrong that rich white men do not socialize with regular Black men from the hood. That wasn't presented that it is a 100% fact. It was clearly a generalization

you literally argued as if it were fact.

sdjsdjnjnsdjnjnsjnjsn

you clearly said i was being unreasonable for comparing "genuine companionship" to anything else

am i trippin? like wtf

[RAY7]

Ed Buck is merely the poster child for a very real thing.

Weird old rich White men can be some of the trashiest, drug obsessed, people on Earth

people thinking they'd be "above!" having "Bronx hoodlums" in close proximity to them is a kii.
it's giving internalized classism. i hate to say it but it is.

if anything a druggie off the street corner is a match made in heaven for these sick fucks.

30 years in federal prison for what prosecutors called the "deadly practice of luring people — typically young Black men, and those experiencing homelessness, addiction, and/or poverty — to his West Hollywood apartment" and injected them, sometimes against their will, with methamphetamine and other drugs. That nearly decadelong practice led to the deaths of two men, Gemmel Moore and Timothy Dean.

https://www.courthousenews.com/political-donor-ed-buck-sentenced-to-30-years-in-overdose-deaths-of-two-black-men/

why are you equating victims to friends? This is not the same topic.

you fail to realize "friendship" and exploitation can be intertwined.
as in, it doesn't have to be one or the other.

you can be someone's "friend" and be their victim. you can be someone's "lover" and be their victim.

can someone pinch me? i HAVE to be in an alternate dimension right now

they CAN BE intertwined but that's not the topic?
In these files we're discussing, how are Jay z and Pusha T in the same situation as these men that Ed Buck killed? Does it say they were coerced? Drugged? Raped?

let's recap:

your argument was "oh im sure rich old white men love hanging with niggas from da hood!    "

I said "many do."

You said "prove it."

I gave an example of a old rich White politician who invited "hood" Black men into his HOME to "hang out", with "fun" and drugs included.

Now we're here.

If anything above is inaccurate please correct it.

there's this thing called CONTEXT
You are comparing genuine companionship

here's the problem.

you're ASSUMING "genuine companionship".

unless you're the 2nd coming of Miss Cleo i'm having a hard time understanding how you're able to conclusively determine that all motives are pure and that the "friendship" is "real".

the only thing we can confirm as FACT is if people hang around one another or are spotted together often. that is a fact.

i like to stick to facts.

arent you in here saying you can't trust a 30 yr old dating a 18/19 yr old because they "might go lower"

i never stated as fact that all 30+ year old men who date 18 year olds,  date 14 year olds too

sndjjnsdjndsjn

nice try but i clearly presented it as my opinion and personal thought process.

you're conclusively stating that "friendships" were "genuine" as if it's fact when it's not.

um this is all based on you trying to prove my opinion wrong that rich white men do not socialize with regular Black men from the hood. That wasn't presented that it is a 100% fact. It was clearly a generalization

you literally argued as if it were fact.

sdjsdjnjnsdjnjnsjnjsn

you clearly said i was being unreasonable for comparing "genuine companionship" to anything else

am i trippin? like wtf

I made a general statement. You negated it. I asked for examples to show why I was wrong and you still haven't provided one

Just showed that there are evil criminals who lure their victims in and kill them lol

[Russian Fury]

Ed Buck is merely the poster child for a very real thing.

Weird old rich White men can be some of the trashiest, drug obsessed, people on Earth

people thinking they'd be "above!" having "Bronx hoodlums" in close proximity to them is a kii.
it's giving internalized classism. i hate to say it but it is.

if anything a druggie off the street corner is a match made in heaven for these sick fucks.

30 years in federal prison for what prosecutors called the "deadly practice of luring people — typically young Black men, and those experiencing homelessness, addiction, and/or poverty — to his West Hollywood apartment" and injected them, sometimes against their will, with methamphetamine and other drugs. That nearly decadelong practice led to the deaths of two men, Gemmel Moore and Timothy Dean.

https://www.courthousenews.com/political-donor-ed-buck-sentenced-to-30-years-in-overdose-deaths-of-two-black-men/

why are you equating victims to friends? This is not the same topic.

you fail to realize "friendship" and exploitation can be intertwined.
as in, it doesn't have to be one or the other.

you can be someone's "friend" and be their victim. you can be someone's "lover" and be their victim.

can someone pinch me? i HAVE to be in an alternate dimension right now

they CAN BE intertwined but that's not the topic?
In these files we're discussing, how are Jay z and Pusha T in the same situation as these men that Ed Buck killed? Does it say they were coerced? Drugged? Raped?

let's recap:

your argument was "oh im sure rich old white men love hanging with niggas from da hood!    "

I said "many do."

You said "prove it."

I gave an example of a old rich White politician who invited "hood" Black men into his HOME to "hang out", with "fun" and drugs included.

Now we're here.

If anything above is inaccurate please correct it.

there's this thing called CONTEXT
You are comparing genuine companionship

here's the problem.

you're ASSUMING "genuine companionship".

unless you're the 2nd coming of Miss Cleo i'm having a hard time understanding how you're able to conclusively determine that all motives are pure and that the "friendship" is "real".

the only thing we can confirm as FACT is if people hang around one another or are spotted together often. that is a fact.

i like to stick to facts.

arent you in here saying you can't trust a 30 yr old dating a 18/19 yr old because they "might go lower"

i never stated as fact that all 30+ year old men who date 18 year olds,  date 14 year olds too

sndjjnsdjndsjn

nice try but i clearly presented it as my opinion and personal thought process.

you're conclusively stating that "friendships" were "genuine" as if it's fact when it's not.

um this is all based on you trying to prove my opinion wrong that rich white men do not socialize with regular Black men from the hood. That wasn't presented that it is a 100% fact. It was clearly a generalization

you literally argued as if it were fact.

sdjsdjnjnsdjnjnsjnjsn

you clearly said i was being unreasonable for comparing "genuine companionship" to anything else

am i trippin? like wtf

I made a general statement. You negated it. I asked for examples to show why I was wrong and you still haven't provided one

Just showed that there are evil criminals who lure their victims in and kill them lol

you have to remember that my argument was simply "Old White rich men do hang around hood niggas"

it wasn't about whether connections were genuine, real...or if the old White men dreamed of their black hood nigga buddies at night with lovingness and admiration

my point was simple. and fact based

[RAY7]

Ed Buck is merely the poster child for a very real thing.

Weird old rich White men can be some of the trashiest, drug obsessed, people on Earth

people thinking they'd be "above!" having "Bronx hoodlums" in close proximity to them is a kii.
it's giving internalized classism. i hate to say it but it is.

if anything a druggie off the street corner is a match made in heaven for these sick fucks.

30 years in federal prison for what prosecutors called the "deadly practice of luring people — typically young Black men, and those experiencing homelessness, addiction, and/or poverty — to his West Hollywood apartment" and injected them, sometimes against their will, with methamphetamine and other drugs. That nearly decadelong practice led to the deaths of two men, Gemmel Moore and Timothy Dean.

https://www.courthousenews.com/political-donor-ed-buck-sentenced-to-30-years-in-overdose-deaths-of-two-black-men/

why are you equating victims to friends? This is not the same topic.

you fail to realize "friendship" and exploitation can be intertwined.
as in, it doesn't have to be one or the other.

you can be someone's "friend" and be their victim. you can be someone's "lover" and be their victim.

can someone pinch me? i HAVE to be in an alternate dimension right now

they CAN BE intertwined but that's not the topic?
In these files we're discussing, how are Jay z and Pusha T in the same situation as these men that Ed Buck killed? Does it say they were coerced? Drugged? Raped?

let's recap:

your argument was "oh im sure rich old white men love hanging with niggas from da hood!    "

I said "many do."

You said "prove it."

I gave an example of a old rich White politician who invited "hood" Black men into his HOME to "hang out", with "fun" and drugs included.

Now we're here.

If anything above is inaccurate please correct it.

there's this thing called CONTEXT
You are comparing genuine companionship

here's the problem.

you're ASSUMING "genuine companionship".

unless you're the 2nd coming of Miss Cleo i'm having a hard time understanding how you're able to conclusively determine that all motives are pure and that the "friendship" is "real".

the only thing we can confirm as FACT is if people hang around one another or are spotted together often. that is a fact.

i like to stick to facts.

arent you in here saying you can't trust a 30 yr old dating a 18/19 yr old because they "might go lower"

i never stated as fact that all 30+ year old men who date 18 year olds,  date 14 year olds too

sndjjnsdjndsjn

nice try but i clearly presented it as my opinion and personal thought process.

you're conclusively stating that "friendships" were "genuine" as if it's fact when it's not.

um this is all based on you trying to prove my opinion wrong that rich white men do not socialize with regular Black men from the hood. That wasn't presented that it is a 100% fact. It was clearly a generalization

you literally argued as if it were fact.

sdjsdjnjnsdjnjnsjnjsn

you clearly said i was being unreasonable for comparing "genuine companionship" to anything else

am i trippin? like wtf

I made a general statement. You negated it. I asked for examples to show why I was wrong and you still haven't provided one

Just showed that there are evil criminals who lure their victims in and kill them lol

you have to remember that my argument was simply "Old White rich men do hang around hood niggas"

it wasn't about whether connections were genuine, real...or if the old White men dreamed of their black hood nigga buddies at night with lovingness and admiration

my point was simple. and fact based

you changed the definition of the term "hang around" to mean anytime they interact with each other
Which is irrelevant to the discussion.

In these files released by the DOJ, it says in 1996 a woman saw Jay z and Weinstein together when she woke up and Weinstein commenced to finger her.

In this context was Jay being exploited like and Ed Buck victim? Is that what the victim is saying about him? Is that what will be the media coverage?
Or will it be that Jay was hanging around Weinstein and was an accomplice?
Hmm

[Russian Fury]

Ed Buck is merely the poster child for a very real thing.

Weird old rich White men can be some of the trashiest, drug obsessed, people on Earth

people thinking they'd be "above!" having "Bronx hoodlums" in close proximity to them is a kii.
it's giving internalized classism. i hate to say it but it is.

if anything a druggie off the street corner is a match made in heaven for these sick fucks.

30 years in federal prison for what prosecutors called the "deadly practice of luring people — typically young Black men, and those experiencing homelessness, addiction, and/or poverty — to his West Hollywood apartment" and injected them, sometimes against their will, with methamphetamine and other drugs. That nearly decadelong practice led to the deaths of two men, Gemmel Moore and Timothy Dean.

https://www.courthousenews.com/political-donor-ed-buck-sentenced-to-30-years-in-overdose-deaths-of-two-black-men/

why are you equating victims to friends? This is not the same topic.

you fail to realize "friendship" and exploitation can be intertwined.
as in, it doesn't have to be one or the other.

you can be someone's "friend" and be their victim. you can be someone's "lover" and be their victim.

can someone pinch me? i HAVE to be in an alternate dimension right now

they CAN BE intertwined but that's not the topic?
In these files we're discussing, how are Jay z and Pusha T in the same situation as these men that Ed Buck killed? Does it say they were coerced? Drugged? Raped?

let's recap:

your argument was "oh im sure rich old white men love hanging with niggas from da hood!    "

I said "many do."

You said "prove it."

I gave an example of a old rich White politician who invited "hood" Black men into his HOME to "hang out", with "fun" and drugs included.

Now we're here.

If anything above is inaccurate please correct it.

there's this thing called CONTEXT
You are comparing genuine companionship

here's the problem.

you're ASSUMING "genuine companionship".

unless you're the 2nd coming of Miss Cleo i'm having a hard time understanding how you're able to conclusively determine that all motives are pure and that the "friendship" is "real".

the only thing we can confirm as FACT is if people hang around one another or are spotted together often. that is a fact.

i like to stick to facts.

arent you in here saying you can't trust a 30 yr old dating a 18/19 yr old because they "might go lower"

i never stated as fact that all 30+ year old men who date 18 year olds,  date 14 year olds too

sndjjnsdjndsjn

nice try but i clearly presented it as my opinion and personal thought process.

you're conclusively stating that "friendships" were "genuine" as if it's fact when it's not.

um this is all based on you trying to prove my opinion wrong that rich white men do not socialize with regular Black men from the hood. That wasn't presented that it is a 100% fact. It was clearly a generalization

you literally argued as if it were fact.

sdjsdjnjnsdjnjnsjnjsn

you clearly said i was being unreasonable for comparing "genuine companionship" to anything else

am i trippin? like wtf

I made a general statement. You negated it. I asked for examples to show why I was wrong and you still haven't provided one

Just showed that there are evil criminals who lure their victims in and kill them lol

you have to remember that my argument was simply "Old White rich men do hang around hood niggas"

it wasn't about whether connections were genuine, real...or if the old White men dreamed of their black hood nigga buddies at night with lovingness and admiration

my point was simple. and fact based

you changed the definition of the term "hang around" to mean anytime they interact with each other
Which is irrelevant to the discussion.

In these files released by the DOJ, it says in 1996 a woman saw Jay z and Weinstein together when she woke up and Weinstein commenced to finger her.

In this context was Jay being exploited like and Ed Buck victim? Is that what the victim is saying about him? Is that what will be the media coverage?
Or will it be that Jay was hanging around Weinstein and was an accomplice?
Hmm

I'm sure super rich White men just love "chillin wit Dey homie from Bk"

Ray this is a thing.

[Russian Fury]

that is specific sentence/quote from you that i challenged.

we may have gone deeper here and there but this was it. which is why i blew it tf up in large font pages ago

i actually couldn't believe you thought this doesn't happen.

I'm sure super rich White men just love "chillin wit Dey homie from Bk"

Ray this is a thing.

you clearly were suggesting that race/class alone would make the scenario unimaginable or impossible

when there are SO many other factors to consider.

we can debate motive/intent all day, but some old White rich men DO love hanging around their "homies from da BK".

[L0NZ.]

Yall talkin too fkn much for me

[Vonc2002]

Yall talkin too fkn much for me

sddddfffggggghhhh
I was thinking the same shit

[L0NZ.]

JayZ was groomed then positioned is what I'm getting