How can we promote unity within the Black community?

Started by Herb., February 20, 2016, 07:57:48 PM

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Bulldagger

Please. White people supporting a cause together isn't a community. It's individuals coming together for their own intentions whatever that is. Not all white people think and act the same just like not all black people think and act the same. Just because a few black people come together to overthrow something doesn't make it a community because I might not agree as a black person. At the end of the day, white people have the luxury of being individuals. I don't think they see themselves as a community as much as we do.  They raise their families individually and they know that regardless of what they're child is raised to believe education and law is key in this land. Black people don't think like this. We're steady holding on to the notion of a community and coming up with bullshit tags like black don't do this and that, like this fucking video on Youtube by some black group  saying Black people aren't atheist as if all blacks are all the same . If that's the community's way of thinking, I'd rather make my own. I'm not saying lets not have each other's backs, I'm saying, if we're to unite as one and fight social justices as one, we have a whole lot of people we're gonna have to cut loose. That includes the new blacks who only wanna date and marry whites and give whites a pass for racism and the ignorant fucks like Fetty Wap who are only good for making babies and cooning. And that's a whole lot of black bodies to turn loose. If we work from the inside out individually it will make us stronger in the end because i cannot raise your family from where I sit. You cannot raise my family from were you sit. We might not even have the same floor plan. That's all I'm saying.


Herb.

lets start by refraining from calling each other soot and nappy headed and mess
our roots are in fucking Africa. there's a lot of "soot" "nappy headed" ppl over there :omgwatshappening:

Bulldagger

btw, there were plenty of blacks and other poc who supported George Zimmerman and the guy who killed Mike Brown. I heard countless black people saying they all could have avoided their demise and so can other blacks in future situations and events. Of course that's not my opinion, but it was said.


Bulldagger

Quote from: Herbie on February 21, 2016, 02:01:30 AM
lets start by refraining from calling each other soot and nappy headed and mess
our roots are in fucking Africa. there's a lot of "soot" "nappy headed" ppl over there :omgwatshappening:

When I say stuff like that, I'm just kidding. I don't have hatred in my heart for any black person. I do think that we need to let go of the ghetto mentality that has over taken so many of us. Look at how many of us engross ourselves in ghetto dramas on a daily basis. What educated, well to do black people is engrossed with Black Chyna, Amber Rose, Love and Hip-Hop and The Real housewives? Shit that make us look bad! Then we get mad when the white man perceive us as those stereotypes.

Herb.

Quote from: Bulldagger on February 21, 2016, 02:12:44 AM
Quote from: Herbie on February 21, 2016, 02:01:30 AM
lets start by refraining from calling each other soot and nappy headed and mess
our roots are in fucking Africa. there's a lot of "soot" "nappy headed" ppl over there :omgwatshappening:

When I say stuff like that, I'm just kidding. I don't have hatred in my heart for any black person. I do think that we need to let go of the ghetto mentality that has over taken so many of us. Look at how many of us engross ourselves in ghetto dramas on a daily basis. What educated, well to do black people is engrossed with Black Chyna, Amber Rose, Love and Hip-Hop and The Real housewives? Shit that make us look bad! Then we get mad when the white man perceive us as those stereotypes.
Personally I could careless how the white man perceives me. If they're truly racist and prejudice, all their judgements will be based solely off the color of my skin, not on a show that airs on Bravo. :dead: but I see what you mean.

zeytoven

Quote from: Glenda on February 21, 2016, 01:37:04 AM
Quote from: zeytoven on February 21, 2016, 01:35:46 AM
never gonna happen, keep dreaming bbvy. I think the generation born in 2030 will be able to experience unity and a society where races isn't an issue.

b

1 question, 1 point:

Q: Why 2030?  :plzstop:

P: 2030 isn't so far away bvy  :ohwow:

Xoxo

yeah your right maybe 2060. Idk just randomly picked a few decades back. But yeah it may even take til 3000 until race isn't an issue and everyone is seen as equal

jtwoeleven

This is a very interesting topic...it got some ideas flowing in me....black people have a very unique history, especially in the US. As a minority population, we have our own thoughts, ideas, etc as somewhat of a counterculture, and subgroups underneath.   

Black uniformity is an impossible ideal, unity is something more tangible, even if not universal. Unfortunately, I don't think black people are allowed the privilege of being as individualistic as other groups. It's been said that blacks aren't a monolith, but if you're black and hold views that run the risk of being deemed "anti black" (think of the stacey dashes, raven-symones, etc) you run the risk of humiliation, alienation, and having your "blackness" questioned...so idk...what the solution would or could be....pardon my rambling...

throwintheTAL

Quote from: Bulldagger on February 20, 2016, 08:46:24 PM
I don't think we should promote unity because white people don't promote unity. They just follow the laws of the land (respect the laws and the people within the land and get an education to prosper) and build their families individually.
So you live your life based off how the white man conducts his

got it

Glenda

A lot of us have .... swirly backgrounds which makes it even harder to unite because we discriminate EACH OTHER based on skin color, hair and other features  :plzstop: "oh he got GOOD HAIR he must think he better than everybody"  :dead: :uhh:

We need to promote the message that ALL black is beautiful and not just CERTAIN black.  :ohwow: :ohwow:

Herb.

February 21, 2016, 12:25:13 PM #41 Last Edit: February 21, 2016, 12:34:33 PM by Herbie
Quote from: Glenda on February 21, 2016, 12:17:10 PM
A lot of us have .... swirly backgrounds which makes it even harder to unite because we discriminate EACH OTHER based on skin color, hair and other features  :plzstop: "oh he got GOOD HAIR he must think he better than everybody"  :dead: :uhh:

We need to promote the message that ALL black is beautiful and not just CERTAIN black.  :ohwow: :ohwow:
speak awn it.

I cringe every time these females at work encourage the black men to keep their hair cut. "It's time to shave that sponge down", etc. the things I've heard. I swear I want to BOOK them a bit because it lowkey makes me angry....who are you to tell him he needs to cut his hair? how do u know he's not trying to grow it?

and the same women will turn around and pull out their phones and show me pictures of their hair from years ago... "see, look my hair is curly too!"...when it clearly was heat/perm damage ...not curls  :dead: :dead: it makes me feel so uncomfortable. u don't have to prove to me that ur hair is like mine. and it leads to me believe that there is jealousy somewhere in their spirit. thats kinda hurtful cuz I am just being me and I love them.

so i find myself going out of my way to make sure I compliment them and remind them how beautiful they are. cuz they really are some gorgeous women :uhh: :uhh: :uhh: especially the one I was telling yall about who I got something for VDay. :wub: :wub: shes gorgeous. 

sorry to rant but u got me started.

Herb.

Quote from: jtwoeleven on February 21, 2016, 03:00:25 AM
This is a very interesting topic...it got some ideas flowing in me....black people have a very unique history, especially in the US. As a minority population, we have our own thoughts, ideas, etc as somewhat of a counterculture, and subgroups underneath.   

Black uniformity is an impossible ideal, unity is something more tangible, even if not universal. Unfortunately, I don't think black people are allowed the privilege of being as individualistic as other groups. It's been said that blacks aren't a monolith, but if you're black and hold views that run the risk of being deemed "anti black" (think of the stacey dashes, raven-symones, etc) you run the risk of humiliation, alienation, and having your "blackness" questioned...so idk...what the solution would or could be....pardon my rambling...
well book then  :omgwatshappening:

Glenda

February 21, 2016, 12:56:55 PM #43 Last Edit: February 21, 2016, 12:58:09 PM by Glenda
Quote from: Herbie on February 21, 2016, 12:25:13 PM
Quote from: Glenda on February 21, 2016, 12:17:10 PM
A lot of us have .... swirly backgrounds which makes it even harder to unite because we discriminate EACH OTHER based on skin color, hair and other features  :plzstop: "oh he got GOOD HAIR he must think he better than everybody"  :dead: :uhh:

We need to promote the message that ALL black is beautiful and not just CERTAIN black.  :ohwow: :ohwow:
speak awn it.

I cringe every time these females at work encourage the black men to keep their hair cut. "It's time to shave that sponge down", etc. the things I've heard. I swear I want to BOOK them a bit because it lowkey makes me angry....who are you to tell him he needs to cut his hair? how do u know he's not trying to grow it?

and the same women will turn around and pull out their phones and show me pictures of their hair from years ago... "see, look my hair is curly too!"...when it clearly was heat/perm damage ...not curls  :dead: :dead: it makes me feel so uncomfortable. u don't have to prove to me that ur hair is like mine. and it leads to me believe that there is jealousy somewhere in their spirit. thats kinda hurtful cuz I am just being me and I love them.

so i find myself going out of my way to make sure I compliment them and remind them how beautiful they are. cuz they really are some gorgeous women :uhh: :uhh: :uhh: especially the one I was telling yall about who I got something for VDay. :wub: :wub: shes gorgeous. 

sorry to rant but u got me started.

No I get it. The hair thing is weird. I get so annoyed by it. My hair is in dreads right now tho but I always hear sideline comments about them, mostly for the good. Either way, good or bad, my hair shouldn't garner any comments. Like bitch leave me alone, it's just how MY fucking hair grows. :plzstop: Prolly the Cherokee and Navajo in me. :raycharles2urmess:

Herb.

Quote from: Glenda on February 21, 2016, 12:56:55 PM
Quote from: Herbie on February 21, 2016, 12:25:13 PM
Quote from: Glenda on February 21, 2016, 12:17:10 PM
A lot of us have .... swirly backgrounds which makes it even harder to unite because we discriminate EACH OTHER based on skin color, hair and other features  :plzstop: "oh he got GOOD HAIR he must think he better than everybody"  :dead: :uhh:

We need to promote the message that ALL black is beautiful and not just CERTAIN black.  :ohwow: :ohwow:
speak awn it.

I cringe every time these females at work encourage the black men to keep their hair cut. "It's time to shave that sponge down", etc. the things I've heard. I swear I want to BOOK them a bit because it lowkey makes me angry....who are you to tell him he needs to cut his hair? how do u know he's not trying to grow it?

and the same women will turn around and pull out their phones and show me pictures of their hair from years ago... "see, look my hair is curly too!"...when it clearly was heat/perm damage ...not curls  :dead: :dead: it makes me feel so uncomfortable. u don't have to prove to me that ur hair is like mine. and it leads to me believe that there is jealousy somewhere in their spirit. thats kinda hurtful cuz I am just being me and I love them.

so i find myself going out of my way to make sure I compliment them and remind them how beautiful they are. cuz they really are some gorgeous women :uhh: :uhh: :uhh: especially the one I was telling yall about who I got something for VDay. :wub: :wub: shes gorgeous. 

sorry to rant but u got me started.

No I get it. The hair thing is weird. I get so annoyed by it. My hair is in dreads right now tho but I always hear sideline comments about them, mostly for the good. Either way, good or bad, my hair shouldn't garner any comments. Like bitch leave me alone, it's just how MY fucking hair grows. :plzstop: Prolly the Cherokee and Navajo in me. :raycharles2urmess:
snsdsnddsn

its people like this that caused me to look deeper into my familys background. being from NYC, i never heard mess like I hear down here in the south. :uhh: :uhh: i've worn my hair natural before when I was younger and it was never a big deal.

i think its cuz NY is such a melting pot. we could careless who has curly or "good" hair....its such a mixture of different cultures and ethnicities up there. down here, the ballgame is totally different. i started growing my hair down here and its like a huge deal....ppl questioning ur background, where ur from, what u do to ur hair, is it a perm  :uhh: :uhh: etc. etc.

it makes u begin to question what makes u "different". and what are people seeing that you aren't. Me and my sisters have always seen ourselves as Black. We knew about my grandmothers mother Chief, but she'd more so tell us stories about how Chief raised her. Not about her ancestry, tribe, siblings....My grandmother was more concerned with a Bible than her roots. :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: She knew her mother was Native, but she never made  a big deal about it. So we didn't either.

But then u get people questioning you as you get older. THIS is what made me dig into my ancestry.