Why are people angry with Zoe?

Started by Herb., March 05, 2016, 09:22:11 AM

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SouravMay

Quote from: Herbie on March 05, 2016, 10:39:54 AM
What's so hilarious to me is...

Black people are quick to call out Dominicans for not embracing their African/Black heritage.
"You just BLACK with some good hair! Nothing else!"
But here we have a woman not only embracing it, but taking on a role to celebrate part of it.
Now, it's "how dare you, you're not black enough...Spanish bitch".... nssndnsdnds I'm sorry...but :plzstop:

i luv my ppl, but am sorry


I see what you mean, but it does not apply here. Any other regular black role, okay. But a role that is in fact about DARK skin, kinky hair and also colorism, she does not fckn qualify.

She can be black in any other movie, and we will love her, just don't pretend to be dark and nappy when you are not.
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SouravMay

Quote from: Herbie on March 05, 2016, 10:45:49 AM
Quote from: Rajesha on March 05, 2016, 10:43:46 AM
Quote from: Herbie on March 05, 2016, 10:37:46 AM
Quote from: Rajesha on March 05, 2016, 10:32:04 AM
Quote from: Herbie on March 05, 2016, 09:33:59 AM
Quote from: Rajesha on March 05, 2016, 09:25:47 AM
Because she does not face the scrutiny and disadvantages in life an African American or dark skin woman feels, as she is neither.
But race is socially constructed in America, it has next to nothing to do with your actual heritage. I think she realizes that, which is why she's always identified with being Black.

A police officer isn't going to stop a brown skinned man and ask for his ancestry report before wrongfully arresting him or blowing his brains out. He sees skin that is not white, nor beige. He sees a person of color.

But he sees more than that.

Person of color is not person of color.

Stop trying to liken the struggle of women who like Zoe's to the struggle of women who look like Nina. I am sure she brown Latinas have their own share of issues and lost some roles, but she still has privilege and advantages, inherently due to her complexion and phenotype, that is denied to ebony colored women who look like Nina, and there is just no way around it.
Yeah there are advantages and privileges. I won't debate that. Nowhere on the level of a white person, but slight mess here and there. But this still doesn't explain why people are mad at her. This was my question. She is of African heritage, she identifies as a Black woman. Not only for this role did she "suddenly" become pro-Black, but she's ALWAYS said she was Black.
She has the heritage, she has the skin. Where the fuck is the anger to HER coming from.

No she does not. She does not have the skin. She might have the title "black", the category. But she does not habe the skin. THAT is the crucial point. Nina Simone's character is literally defined by her extra dark skin, and her extra nappy hair and her facial features.

Now had this been any other black singer, where her skin color was not of much relevance, like for instance, Anita Baker or somebody, then it's like okay, go ahead! All you need to be is "black", Anita wasn't known for being dark but for her smooth bedroom vocals, but Nina Simone's shtick was her afrocentrism.
I see your point. I get it.

But I don't like you right now  so


Luv you too!

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Herb.

wow, i think we just came to an understanding :ohwow:

SouravMay

and i was rooting for zoe, i hope this does not ruin her career.

:stressed:
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RAY7

Quote from: Rajesha on March 05, 2016, 10:35:36 AM
Lupita should always so no, when being asked to portray Alicia Keys..
I mean, I kinda see what you're going for but
I mean, Angela Bassett played Rosa Parks, Flex played Michael Jackson...

Abcd

Yeah I don't have an issue with it either


Herb.

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yea, where was the outrage when flex portrayed a white person :omgwatshappening:

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March 05, 2016, 11:03:05 AM #38 Last Edit: March 05, 2016, 11:03:30 AM by Rawlf
I see both sides, Herb and Malc.

Although Zoe/Simone are both AA, it'd be a fool for either one of them to portray EACH OTHER.
And that's what it comes down to.
BRANDY

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March 05, 2016, 11:04:35 AM #39 Last Edit: March 05, 2016, 11:04:44 AM by Rawlf
Quote from: Herbie on March 05, 2016, 11:01:21 AM
lmjonphibgouvfiycdtuxfrggcccggcgccgcg

yea, where was the outrage when flex portrayed a white person :omgwatshappening:

this was a bit different IMO
MJ identified as black, and he had a skin disorder.
BRANDY

Herb.

Quote from: Rawlf on March 05, 2016, 11:04:35 AM
Quote from: Herbie on March 05, 2016, 11:01:21 AM
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yea, where was the outrage when flex portrayed a white person :omgwatshappening:

this was a bit different IMO
MJ identified as black, and he had a skin disorder.
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March 05, 2016, 11:06:56 AM #42 Last Edit: March 05, 2016, 11:07:30 AM by Rawlf
terrence J will most likely be completely white (skin colored) later in life.
if he ever had a story
do u think he'd want a white guy to play him?
BRANDY