Quote from: Herbie on March 20, 2016, 07:14:07 PM
And I have to agree with the Black Panthers. Her message of Black pride and power was loud and clear.
She knew what she was doing.
At the end of the day, she still has to be Beyonce.
What I don't get is, how can people say that she's not genuine with her message and stance
but at the same time say it's no message or stance to begin with?
How could she possibly be fake with something that's not even there? According to them, she's not presenting anything but nonsense about her clothes, jewelry and money. So at what point, in this mix is there evidence to suggest that she's being an opportunist?
I mean, she's only doing what she usually does, right? What's so different? 
Answer me that. 
The message was loud and clear because it was performed at the Super Bowl in front of a gazillion white people. not because an actual message was properly conveyed. The Black Panthers are gonna support anyone who supports them. To keep saying "the BP KNOW! They got it! They're here!" Of course they are

. If Beyonce Giselle endorsed Facebook at the SuperBowl, Mark would be here for it too. To me, it's not saying much to mention that the BP are here for it. Again, of course they are

"She knew what she was doing" is the same thing they're saying about her being an opportunist. Yes, Beyonce and her machine knows what they are doing. They've been knowing what they're doing marketing wise for decades. Yes, wear anti-establishment costumes in front of White America for the first performance of your new song. Oh yea, they def know what they're doing. Just like Brandy and Monica'nem knew what they were doing for TBIM

But you're trying to make it seem like there was this masterful MESSAGE conveyed in this song. It just wasn't enough. It was daring to do it at that event, sure. It would have been more daring for Beyonce's brand for the song to actually say the same thing lyrically and attack ears the same way those berets attacked White America's eyes. It would have been more daring to properly deliver these not so apparent boasts of Black Pride and awareness by including lyrics about them. To turn on the radio and hear a line about institutionalized rasicm and not "I slay. We slay. They slay. Ok." I think this is where people question how genuine it is. The rollout was extravagant, and loud, and clear. The MEAT, is not. You like your jelled down baby hair and Jordans, and all these important Black things

Then what? Leave it up to your stans to theorize and make up MESS to give the message more UMPH? "Woo! Guys, get IN-formation. Like, information! Get it?! She wants us to google!" ff
The sense in someone saying a message isnt there, and in the same breath downplaying that same nonexistent message lies in what 'disingenuous' refers to. I think the use of "opportunist" and disingenuous speaks to the intent, not the message itself. You can play under the umbrella of any issue and appear to consciously and meaningfully spearhead it if your name is as big as Beyonce's, especially if you perform it at the Super Bowl, and especially if you can comfortably "be yourself" and "do what you always do." Then you have the luxury of people making excuses for you in that they werent ever expecting much from you socially. You dont really have to back it up. "It's Beyonce! Duh! You weren't expecting her to give a SPEECH were you? You weren't expecting her to attend a rally were you? You didn't expect the lyrics to be deep did you? Of course she talked about food, Jordans, weave, and money...she's Beyonce, just PLOP down to the beat!" Of course she's no Public damn Enemy or NWA, but the fascniation with this SONG, puzzles me. To me and other, the song should have been the stance. Not the Superbowl performance. This is why I always ask are you in love with the song and it's message (or lack thereof) ........ or the daring performance piece.