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[Young]

thats crazy!

[SouravMay]

But Haitians are basically West Africans lol

[GLOCK]

Favorite thread this month!
So excited about my results! ❤️Thx guys for spreading awareness

[SouravMay]

But Haitians are basically West Africans lol

DNA is proving that a lot of our heritage lies in West Central Africa.

It's in line with slave voyage records.

62K Central Africans were sent to North America, while 793K were sent to the Caribbean.





Cameroon/Congo is a very consistent marker for people of Haitian descent. Aligning with what's documented.

Yeah, so you are African. Original Haitians are Ta?no, luv.

[SouravMay]

I sent you the link which explained the history of black people in Haiti luv. I know when Haiti came to be.

The point is African American just like Black Haitian is a new found identity and none of the "original" tribes to go back to.

[SouravMay]

Also, diving closer into slave voyage records of Haiti specifically (listed as its original name, Saint Domingue in the chart below)
The largest amount of its African population came from Central Africa.

By a landslide of 46%. With Bight of Benin coming in second way down at 24% Every other area of Africa was bits and pieces.

This graphic basically shows the vast majority are from West Africa lol They all came from the same damn coast. Benin bight, Cameroon, Biafra, Guinea all West Africa.

[SouravMay]

While Haitians themselves probably look for their true ancestry, it is funny that other people stop there and think they got it.

[merkaba]

I'm so curious why I have 4% Senegal and my mom has 1%.

[SouravMay]

The only issue is, yeah some of the Dumas gorls were "of color", but at the end of the day, the name is French, and they were subordinate to white people.

[Real]

Favorite thread this month!
So excited about my results! ❤️Thx guys for spreading awareness

Boy 

[GLOCK]

Favorite thread this month!
So excited about my results! ❤️Thx guys for spreading awareness

Boy 

[Glenda]

One more receipt. A personal one.

Months ago, before I even knew of my connection to Haiti....
I had my DNA results analyzed by Fonte Felipe, creator of "Tracing African Roots"

and here is his analysis.

Hi Herbert, these are my thoughts on your results, remember it's just my 2 cents wink.  Your Ivory Coast/Ghana proportion is impressive and nearly one half of your African breakdown (36/81=44%). It's twice as high as the average i found for 350 AA's (19,5%) and actually only 13 other AA results i've seen scored higher for this region (proportionally speaking). So this is definitely a region worthy of exploring further to get a better grip on your African background. It's good to keep in mind that besides origins from firstmost Ghana and then Ivory Coast this category could also be suggestive of origins from Liberia and even (southern) Sierra Leone. Judging from the results of actual persons from those countries. (see also African results).

Your Cameroon/Congo score (18%) is also significant but much more in line with what seems to be common among AA's and especially from the Carolina's and Georgia. This region is ambigious as it might point towards origins from both the Bight of Biafra and Central Africa. Given that you also score a fair amount of Southeastern Bantu while your Nigerian contribution is rather small it's tempting to assume your Cameroon/Congo combines with SE Bantu and generally might point towards Central African origins in your case. However other options might still also be valid!

Looking more closely at your SE Bantu score (13%), it's clearly above the average i have found for 350 AA's. It makes up 16% (13/81) of your total African breakdown, while the average would be about 6,5%. It's good to keep in mind though that averages hide a great deal of variation around the mean. I have seen about 35 other AA's score higher SE Bantu proportions than yourself, while about 133 AA's had higher SE Bantu proportions than the average of 6,5%. This region has very wideranging potential implications across southern and eastern parts of Africa. We will have to wait for an update of Ancestry's referencepanel, involving heavier sampling from Angola and Mozambique, to get a clearer picture.

I find this category nonetheless very intriguing, my personal take on any possible interpretation is to go by whatever's been documented on the African origins for whichever nationality the person who's taking the test belongs to. In the case of AA's i therefore believe that a Central African (northern Angola & interior of Congo) explanation seems to be most plausible in a majority of cases (of course there's always individual variation). Because judging from the slave trade records this region supplied about 25% of all captives to the US while the share of Mozambique/Madagascar was no more than 2%. While it's true that the Portuguese were heavily present in this area, starting from the late 1600's they were mostly confined to Angola in the area around the capital Luanda and places to the south of it (Benguela). The captives they brought over to the Americas were destined almost exclusively towards Brazil in the 1700's/1800's while during earlier centuries (1500's/1600's) also other parts of Latin America received many of these captives. Because of incidental pirate attacks on Portuguese slave ships a small number of Angolans also ended up in the US in the late 1600's. Around the river Congo, near northern Angola, it was actually the Dutch, French, English and later on even American based slave traders who were predominant. This place centered around the kingdom of Loango had many interior connections, perhaps reaching as far as Zambia even. So i imagine any Southeastern Bantu scores among AA's and also West Indians (they also can score noticeable SE Bantu scores upto around 20%, even when it's more exceptional), might still be originating from this disembarkation region.

Again, Central Africa is consistent among those of Haitian descent.
even his GUESS of that portion of my ancestry was in line with my family history. lolz
OK now I really gotta run. just had to throw that egg real quick.

oh and check out his blog ! lolz
https://tracingafricanroots.wordpress.com/

his research >>>>>

Wayment, where do I go to have my mess analyzed a bit?

Ancestry is acting a complete fool with this raw data download mess. Is there any other way to get my mess without waiting for a defunct e-mail?

[merkaba]

I'm having issues with my raw DNA download too. 😢

[SouravMay]

huh? what eggs gorl...

[SouravMay]

I said Haitians are basically West Africans and your own figure showed that. All the damn regions refer back to West Africa. I am sure some from Central Africa (the Western part lol) got mixed up in the shuffle but that is neither here or there, it is all from the same damn coast.

It was not really about West or Central African, as those are just fairly arbitrary categories, but about the fact that when you really want to go back to ANCESTRY, Haiti is irrelevant. Just like a result that would give you some mess like Alabama... That is a pit stop, but not the source.