"I have nothing against Black people. You all have suffered enough"

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I can see how easy it is to misunderstand what she was trying to convey here but the gist of it is, although he killed Blacks, he was letting it be known that it wasn't personal. A "I'm sorry but... Mess. He was sympathetic but he just wanted America to stop bombing his country. Doing what he gotta do.
:uhh:

If that's what she's basically trying to say in the video, then she's another heartless idiot. He had sympathy? :uhh: are you fucking kidding me

What country? He's American  :kii:

He was born in fucking Queens/NYC.  I wish people would do their damn research before hopping on camera trying to give off some sort of pseudo intellect.
He was born in NYC but he had close ties to the country, I mean both his parents migrated from there. I could see if it were an African American trying to seek justice for a country in Africa, claiming they have close ties to it, I mean most of us don't know EXACTLY which country our African mess comes from even if we do have a DNA report because we're so many generations removed from it. Although those things give us an idea.

But that wasn't the case for him. However I do believe that he was a wannabe to some extent. First he was claiming that he pledged allegiance to ISIS, then he pledged loyalty to another terrorist group that is actually enemies with ISIS, etc.  :plzstop:

A lot of the evidence points to him just wanna be a crusader of some sort. But being that his parents came directly from Afghanistan I'm sure he maintained cultural ties to it. A lot of them bring their culture with them to New York City. Stepping into their neighborhoods is like stepping into their country sometimes. Trust me.

They NEVER forget where they come from. And they don't let anyone else forget either. :dead:
no no I totally get that, but I just wish people realized that he was born and grew up right here with us Americans. The fact that he was pledging to any group he could think of, just shows how desperate he was to have some sense of belonging.

Same reason young men STILL join gangs in the hood. His father constantly referred to him as a faggot, and I'm willing to bet when he cruised these apps, he was turned down more often than not because we know how shallow and racist they are on those.

So the gays he wanted didn't want him, his father didn't care for him, and it seems as if his ex wife (clearly) and co-workers didn't either.

This is just a guess, but maybe he was trying to prove to his father that he's a "real man" or some tough guy now, by doing such a disgusting thing. They really really need to thoroughly check into his father and HIS ties with terrorist groups, and see what else HE fucking knows about his own son and how much he knows about that plot of his.
Thank you. All of this. I agree.
i really pray they look into his father and interview him multiple times. They need to pretty much interrogate him, actually. There's no excuse for his animalistic son, but im willing to BET that he was the way he was, partly because his father is the same way if not much worse.

That father knows a whole hell of a lot more than he's saying. "Well, ya know ... Hmmm 🤔🤔 I think he did see two gays kissing at Starbucks one day and he did seem quite angry about it. Wow ... yes"

Fucking please. You mean to tell me that's all they could get out of his own flesh and blood? After the man just lost his son, he was calm enough to think back and recall such a story :dead: girl

That man is equally as twisted and vile and I can't wait for it all to be uncovered. Hopefully before it's too late

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I can see how easy it is to misunderstand what she was trying to convey here but the gist of it is, although he killed Blacks, he was letting it be known that it wasn't personal. A "I'm sorry but... Mess. He was sympathetic but he just wanted America to stop bombing his country. Doing what he gotta do.
:uhh:

If that's what she's basically trying to say in the video, then she's another heartless idiot. He had sympathy? :uhh: are you fucking kidding me

What country? He's American  :kii:

He was born in fucking Queens/NYC.  I wish people would do their damn research before hopping on camera trying to give off some sort of pseudo intellect.
He was born in NYC but he had close ties to the country, I mean both his parents migrated from there. I could see if it were an African American trying to seek justice for a country in Africa, claiming they have close ties to it, I mean most of us don't know EXACTLY which country our African mess comes from even if we do have a DNA report because we're so many generations removed from it. Although those things give us an idea.

But that wasn't the case for him. However I do believe that he was a wannabe to some extent. First he was claiming that he pledged allegiance to ISIS, then he pledged loyalty to another terrorist group that is actually enemies with ISIS, etc.  :plzstop:

A lot of the evidence points to him just wanna be a crusader of some sort. But being that his parents came directly from Afghanistan I'm sure he maintained cultural ties to it. A lot of them bring their culture with them to New York City. Stepping into their neighborhoods is like stepping into their country sometimes. Trust me.

They NEVER forget where they come from. And they don't let anyone else forget either. :dead:
no no I totally get that, but I just wish people realized that he was born and grew up right here with us Americans. The fact that he was pledging to any group he could think of, just shows how desperate he was to have some sense of belonging.

Same reason young men STILL join gangs in the hood. His father constantly referred to him as a faggot, and I'm willing to bet when he cruised these apps, he was turned down more often than not because we know how shallow and racist they are on those.

So the gays he wanted didn't want him, his father didn't care for him, and it seems as if his ex wife (clearly) and co-workers didn't either.

This is just a guess, but maybe he was trying to prove to his father that he's a "real man" or some tough guy now, by doing such a disgusting thing. They really really need to thoroughly check into his father and HIS ties with terrorist groups, and see what else HE fucking knows about his own son and how much he knows about that plot of his.
I don't know about the gay apps theory, it hasn't been confirmed whether he was using them for sexual means or simply to scope the territory for his attack. It wouldn't be the first time that a straight man utilized gay dominated channels for their own evil plans. Also, his wife visited the Pulse club with him a couple times and has admitted that she knew of his plans to do some sort of Jihadist based strike.

I think once we have a clear understanding of why he was using the gay apps, it will definitely open up the conversation more in regards to his manhood being on the line, etc.

But aside from survivor's testimonies, everything else is just too foggy now to comfortably conclude that he was on the DL. It's definitely a logical theory though.
Its been reported that he'd been going to that club for over 3 years though ssdddffff I'm sorry but that small ass club didn't need to be researched for damn near half a decade :kii: and he certainly didn't need gay apps, looking at half naked/fully naked men tooting up their ass to do it either.

That man is as gay as the day is long. Even his ex-wife said he had "gay tendencies" but those women always turn a blind eye and sweep it under the rug, so I'm sure it was more than him bending and snapping or whatever other gay/effeminate stereotype thats out there.

He also used to beat her. I can definitely see her finding some gay pics, nudes or history on the computer and him beating her senseless for having the gumption to even bring it up to his face 

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Now if he were outside and inside of Disney world for a few years and scouting THAT, that would be different in my eyes. That makes waaaaay more sense, because that park is absolutely gigantic. Acres and acres


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Yeah, these reporters are known to reiterate shit over and over again, but still be expectin' a different answer. Like, fuck off, next question? :plea:


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Quote from: ken dahl. on June 15, 2016, 01:50:49 PM
Quote from: 1Rig on June 15, 2016, 01:41:37 PM
Quote from: Annie on June 15, 2016, 01:28:05 PM
Trump needs to realize that if he continues to make Muslims feel like they do not belong in America there is a big chance a lot of them will start to hate the 'western world'. It is something that is also happening in Europe.. Once you start discriminating they don't give a fuck anymore.
its not even about that for me personally. I just can't understand why trump would want anyone feeling excluded, isolated or singled out.

Trump represents the worst part of America , the part of America that people HATE.

Yet, he's our candidate for president! :cheerup: On TV saying that it's OK, and even essential that we single out and alienate Muslims.

The fact that he's even allowed a platform is a prime example of why I understand people's hatred for this country. Why was he even ALLOWED to get this far in potentially leading our country?

He's accusing of Obama of empathizing with terrorists, when Obama pretty much feels the same way I do. The nasty shit that goes down in this country makes people hate it. That doesn't mean that Obama feels terrorism is OK and murder is just dandy! :cheerup:

Obama was PISSED yesterday during his statement. You can tell how fed up he is with the foolishness that's going on. I'd be offended that someone like Trump was even allowed an opportunity to sit in the same seat that I just left. How is someone like him even in the same ballpark as Obama? I don't care how many coins he has :uhh:

I don't know who actually watched Obama's address yesterday but he lowkey snapped.
Trump event went further than that, and basically claimed Obama actually had something to do with it. He insinuated it, again, tying it back to Hussein being his middle name (irrelevant) and the whole theory and FALSE claim of Obama not even being born in this country.


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I can see how easy it is to misunderstand what she was trying to convey here but the gist of it is, although he killed Blacks, he was letting it be known that it wasn't personal. A "I'm sorry but... Mess. He was sympathetic but he just wanted America to stop bombing his country. Doing what he gotta do.
:uhh:

If that's what she's basically trying to say in the video, then she's another heartless idiot. He had sympathy? :uhh: are you fucking kidding me

What country? He's American  :kii:

He was born in fucking Queens/NYC.  I wish people would do their damn research before hopping on camera trying to give off some sort of pseudo intellect.
He was born in NYC but he had close ties to the country, I mean both his parents migrated from there. I could see if it were an African American trying to seek justice for a country in Africa, claiming they have close ties to it, I mean most of us don't know EXACTLY which country our African mess comes from even if we do have a DNA report because we're so many generations removed from it. Although those things give us an idea.

But that wasn't the case for him. However I do believe that he was a wannabe to some extent. First he was claiming that he pledged allegiance to ISIS, then he pledged loyalty to another terrorist group that is actually enemies with ISIS, etc.  :plzstop:

A lot of the evidence points to him just wanna be a crusader of some sort. But being that his parents came directly from Afghanistan I'm sure he maintained cultural ties to it. A lot of them bring their culture with them to New York City. Stepping into their neighborhoods is like stepping into their country sometimes. Trust me.

They NEVER forget where they come from. And they don't let anyone else forget either. :dead:
no no I totally get that, but I just wish people realized that he was born and grew up right here with us Americans. The fact that he was pledging to any group he could think of, just shows how desperate he was to have some sense of belonging.

Same reason young men STILL join gangs in the hood. His father constantly referred to him as a faggot, and I'm willing to bet when he cruised these apps, he was turned down more often than not because we know how shallow and racist they are on those.

So the gays he wanted didn't want him, his father didn't care for him, and it seems as if his ex wife (clearly) and co-workers didn't either.

This is just a guess, but maybe he was trying to prove to his father that he's a "real man" or some tough guy now, by doing such a disgusting thing. They really really need to thoroughly check into his father and HIS ties with terrorist groups, and see what else HE fucking knows about his own son and how much he knows about that plot of his.
I don't know about the gay apps theory, it hasn't been confirmed whether he was using them for sexual means or simply to scope the territory for his attack. It wouldn't be the first time that a straight man utilized gay dominated channels for their own evil plans. Also, his wife visited the Pulse club with him a couple times and has admitted that she knew of his plans to do some sort of Jihadist based strike.

I think once we have a clear understanding of why he was using the gay apps, it will definitely open up the conversation more in regards to his manhood being on the line, etc.

But aside from survivor's testimonies, everything else is just too foggy now to comfortably conclude that he was on the DL. It's definitely a logical theory though.
Its been reported that he'd been going to that club for over 3 years though ssdddffff I'm sorry but that small ass club didn't need to be researched for damn near half a decade :kii: and he certainly didn't need gay apps, looking at half naked/fully naked men tooting up their ass to do it either.

That man is as gay as the day is long. Even his ex-wife said he had "gay tendencies" but those women always turn a blind eye and sweep it under the rug, so I'm sure it was more than him bending and snapping or whatever other gay/effeminate stereotype thats out there.

He also used to beat her. I can definitely see her finding some gay pics, nudes or history on the computer and him beating her senseless for having the gumption to even bring it up to his face
You mentioned the ex-wife saying he had "gay tendencies", I've been keeping up with the story and I don't remember her saying that in either one of the two interviews I saw, even when they tried to lead her into that direction. Do you have a source with her saying that specifically? Maybe I missed something
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/orlando-shooter-omar-mateen-had-gay-tendencies-according-to-ex-wife-as-pulse-patron-say-attacker-was-a7081041.html

Not in the televised interviews I suppose. 

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QuoteThe man, who did not want to be named, told the Palm Beach Post: ?We went to a few gay bars with him, and I was not out at the time, so I declined his offer.?

He believed Mateen was gay but was not open about his preference, describing him as ?socially awkward?.  Mateen did not become a police officer and was working as a G4S security guard at the time of his attack.

Another man said Mateen had messaged him for a year on the gay chat and dating app Jack?d but that they never met up.

Kevin West told the Los Angeles Times he was dropping off a friend at Pulse at 1am on Sunday morning when he recognised him crossing the road.

?He walked directly past me. I said, ?Hey,? and he turned and said, ?Hey,?? and nodded his head, West said. ?I could tell by the eyes.?


QuoteSeveral regulars at the club told the Orlando Sentinel Mateen had visited before and told drinkers he had a child, as well as talking about his father.

?Sometimes he would go over in the corner and sit and drink by himself, and other times he would get so drunk he was loud and belligerent,? Ty Smith said.

Another frequent patron at Pulse, Jim Van Horn, described Mateen as a ?regular?.

?He was trying to pick up people. Men,? he told the Associated Press, saying the man had once told him about his ex-wife.


A mess. 

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He was definitely scouting alright :kii: and constantly rejected as I suspected. I'm crying

Classic case of a man SCORNED with a dash of self hatred. 

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Quote from: 1Rig on June 15, 2016, 02:02:17 PM
Now if he were outside and inside of Disney world for a few years and scouting THAT, that would be different in my eyes. That makes waaaaay more sense, because that park is absolutely gigantic. Acres and acres

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Quote from: ken dahl. on June 15, 2016, 02:16:43 PM
Wait she did say it during this portion:



I missed it.
oh shit

This is actually my first time seeing the video as well. I'm sorry but I knew it the moment they showed his selfies the day after the shooting :dead: that man was gay

However I DO understand that It's not super super important in the grand scheme of things because many lives were lost

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Quote from: ken dahl. on June 15, 2016, 02:17:13 PM
"he loved to look @ himself"
"he loved to take pictures of himself"

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sssssssddd I think she realized that she was about to offend every gay man watching, including Don lemon.

I feel like she kept it light cuz she was about to go in
:plzstop:

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It's just so weird. You never know what's going on in people's minds. You can see someone everyday and be totally clueless to who/what they really are.