Home

[Mel.]

oh and Ray, how do you feel about Tank defending Justin?
because he was on TMZ Live defending him

he had some points

That's all I needed to know. Thanks

[FuvkYoThread]

RIP to his career

[Mel.]

RIP to his career

Sure, Jan.

[Kindred]

b

I mean, he's not lying and what do his black peers have to do with a white man appropriating black music and culture and getting away with it? JT can't even act like he cares about black ppl. JT should've kept his mouth shut because he made himself a target now.

it's a valid comparison. why expect the white guy to do it, when the to black ones run from it as well? we have to start at home. this isn't the 50's where the black artists were about community when the white ones stole their sound and became huge. however that being said, two wrongs don't make a right either. appropriation is appropriation. i for one think this should've been a pressed issue when the janet thing happened. the gorls let it die down and acted as if it never happened when he returned with a new black infused bop lol

[Kindred]

i agree to an extent. jt's style is drenched in classic black music sound. the flip side of it is that he gives props and acknowledgment to the those who create for him and have influenced him.

Interesting
Ive seen a few clips of interviews where he downplays his Black influences like Mike
and instead says Frank Sinatra, Fred Astaire, Gene Kelly are his influences. Not to mention hes beefed with Prince & R Kelly.
Im surprised ppl are finally noticing that he doesnt care about us

i've seen him give props to both sides similar to what mj did as well. however i don't believe jt in that instance. nothing about him gives those others. mj had so many elements to his presentation and the influences were very real in the presentations.


as for the beefs. i always saw prince being the one that started that with the whole comment on sexyback. with r.kelly i'm not sure what happened there.

[RAY7]

this is the one Im talking about
he was like offended by the MJ comparisons of his performance

[BAPHOMET.]

I have a Nostalgia love for JT. I dont think I could fully drag him. But... when others do it 

[KING BENTLEY.]

b

I mean, he's not lying and what do his black peers have to do with a white man appropriating black music and culture and getting away with it? JT can't even act like he cares about black ppl. JT should've kept his mouth shut because he made himself a target now.

it's a valid comparison. why expect the white guy to do it, when the to black ones run from it as well? we have to start at home. this isn't the 50's where the black artists were about community when the white ones stole their sound and became huge. however that being said, two wrongs don't make a right either. appropriation is appropriation. i for one think this should've been a pressed issue when the janet thing happened. the gorls let it die down and acted as if it never happened when he returned with a new black infused bop lol

exactly!
And in Justin's case he's also shown appreciation for it. Like Mel said, there's a difference between appropriation and appreciation.

Justin has also progressed RnB sound, he's contributed. His albums are cohesive. I didn't see him biting Confessions after Usher did his thing.

Now if we wanna talk about appropriation, let's talk about Macklemore, Iggy, Post Malone and countless others, Justin Bieber ... Zayn I mean

Going at Justin is like going at Paul Wall or Jon B. The fake woke gang is annoying when they can't properly access situations.

That's like Martin Luther King turning away the white protesters for trying to connect or find common ground with their struggle

[RAY7]

b

I mean, he's not lying and what do his black peers have to do with a white man appropriating black music and culture and getting away with it? JT can't even act like he cares about black ppl. JT should've kept his mouth shut because he made himself a target now.

it's a valid comparison. why expect the white guy to do it, when the to black ones run from it as well? we have to start at home. this isn't the 50's where the black artists were about community when the white ones stole their sound and became huge. however that being said, two wrongs don't make a right either. appropriation is appropriation. i for one think this should've been a pressed issue when the janet thing happened. the gorls let it die down and acted as if it never happened when he returned with a new black infused bop lol

exactly!
And in Justin's case he's also shown appreciation for it. Like Mel said, there's a difference between appropriation and appreciation.

Justin has also progressed RnB sound, he's contributed
Going at Justin is like going at Paul Wall or Jon B.

[DraeDrizzl3]

I agree.

[KING BENTLEY.]

And what do Vic's "peers" have to do with it?

ThEy have EVERYTHING to do with it when his peers are the ones influencing younger black children. Corrupting them with foolishness and aren't properly addressing their own struggle.

it also shows that public figures PERIOD these days are slow to speak on social issues for fear of effecting their livelihoods. So attacking Justin for a lack of Twitter posts is moot and a true waste of time.

[KING BENTLEY.]

b

I mean, he's not lying and what do his black peers have to do with a white man appropriating black music and culture and getting away with it? JT can't even act like he cares about black ppl. JT should've kept his mouth shut because he made himself a target now.

it's a valid comparison. why expect the white guy to do it, when the to black ones run from it as well? we have to start at home. this isn't the 50's where the black artists were about community when the white ones stole their sound and became huge. however that being said, two wrongs don't make a right either. appropriation is appropriation. i for one think this should've been a pressed issue when the janet thing happened. the gorls let it die down and acted as if it never happened when he returned with a new black infused bop lol

exactly!
And in Justin's case he's also shown appreciation for it. Like Mel said, there's a difference between appropriation and appreciation.

Justin has also progressed RnB sound, he's contributed
Going at Justin is like going at Paul Wall or Jon B.

what?

Oh I forgot to say Robin too

[RAY7]

b

I mean, he's not lying and what do his black peers have to do with a white man appropriating black music and culture and getting away with it? JT can't even act like he cares about black ppl. JT should've kept his mouth shut because he made himself a target now.

it's a valid comparison. why expect the white guy to do it, when the to black ones run from it as well? we have to start at home. this isn't the 50's where the black artists were about community when the white ones stole their sound and became huge. however that being said, two wrongs don't make a right either. appropriation is appropriation. i for one think this should've been a pressed issue when the janet thing happened. the gorls let it die down and acted as if it never happened when he returned with a new black infused bop lol

exactly!
And in Justin's case he's also shown appreciation for it. Like Mel said, there's a difference between appropriation and appreciation.

Justin has also progressed RnB sound, he's contributed
Going at Justin is like going at Paul Wall or Jon B.

what?

Oh I forgot to say Robin too

but Robin & Jon B, and Paul Wall have always been Urban, and in the the Black ppl
Justin was bubblegum Pop, and considered generally a Pop artist until this 2020 album
he's nothing like them

[KING BENTLEY.]

b

I mean, he's not lying and what do his black peers have to do with a white man appropriating black music and culture and getting away with it? JT can't even act like he cares about black ppl. JT should've kept his mouth shut because he made himself a target now.

it's a valid comparison. why expect the white guy to do it, when the to black ones run from it as well? we have to start at home. this isn't the 50's where the black artists were about community when the white ones stole their sound and became huge. however that being said, two wrongs don't make a right either. appropriation is appropriation. i for one think this should've been a pressed issue when the janet thing happened. the gorls let it die down and acted as if it never happened when he returned with a new black infused bop lol

exactly!
And in Justin's case he's also shown appreciation for it. Like Mel said, there's a difference between appropriation and appreciation.

Justin has also progressed RnB sound, he's contributed
Going at Justin is like going at Paul Wall or Jon B.

what?

Oh I forgot to say Robin too

but Robin & Jon B, and Paul Wall have always been Urban, and in the the Black ppl
Justin was bubblegum Pop, and considered generally a Pop artist until this 2020 album
he's nothing like them

boy
Justin was on the Mickey Mouse club
He was tryna make a living
Clearly NSync was crafted and he did what he was told.
Even still on their last alberm, you could tell Justin's influence started to climb through

You can't say the boy was pure pop and never had RnB influence

Gone is still my mess

[RAY7]

b

I mean, he's not lying and what do his black peers have to do with a white man appropriating black music and culture and getting away with it? JT can't even act like he cares about black ppl. JT should've kept his mouth shut because he made himself a target now.

it's a valid comparison. why expect the white guy to do it, when the to black ones run from it as well? we have to start at home. this isn't the 50's where the black artists were about community when the white ones stole their sound and became huge. however that being said, two wrongs don't make a right either. appropriation is appropriation. i for one think this should've been a pressed issue when the janet thing happened. the gorls let it die down and acted as if it never happened when he returned with a new black infused bop lol

exactly!
And in Justin's case he's also shown appreciation for it. Like Mel said, there's a difference between appropriation and appreciation.

Justin has also progressed RnB sound, he's contributed
Going at Justin is like going at Paul Wall or Jon B.

what?

Oh I forgot to say Robin too

but Robin & Jon B, and Paul Wall have always been Urban, and in the the Black ppl
Justin was bubblegum Pop, and considered generally a Pop artist until this 2020 album
he's nothing like them

boy
Justin was on the Mickey Mouse club
He was tryna make a living
Clearly NSync was crafted and he did what he was told.
Even still on their last alberm, you could tell Justin's influence started to climb through

You can't say the boy was pure pop and never had RnB influence

Gone is still my mess

He has had R&B influence, just like Xtina & even Britney
but they have all been considered Pop artists
and still are tbh
they werent stuck on Urban AC radio like Robin & Jon B