Started by Freemala Harris, July 12, 2016, 01:47:46 PM
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Quote from: Chokeme on July 12, 2016, 02:00:54 PMThey should be condemned. It's ignorant and selfish to see a group of people being slain in the streets back to back and have the nerve to say hey even though I'm not being affected by this we matter too!
Quote from: BowDown on July 12, 2016, 06:09:19 PMQuote from: Ms Malika on July 12, 2016, 06:07:24 PMQuote from: RIGGY on July 12, 2016, 06:05:48 PMQuoteImagine that you?re sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don?t get any. So you say ?I should get my fair share.? And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, ?everyone should get their fair share.? Now, that?s a wonderful sentiment ? indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place: that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also. However, dad?s smart-ass comment just dismissed you and didn?t solve the problem that you still haven?t gotten any!The problem is that the statement ?I should get my fair share? had an implicit ?too? at the end: ?I should get my fair share, too, just like everyone else.? But your dad?s response treated your statement as though you meant ?only I should get my fair share?, which clearly was not your intention. As a result, his statement that ?everyone should get their fair share,? while true, only served to ignore the problem you were trying to point out.That?s the situation of the ?black lives matter? movement. Culture, laws, the arts, religion, and everyone else repeatedly suggest that all lives should matter. Clearly, that message already abounds in our society. The problem is that, in practice, the world doesn?t work that way. You see the film Nightcrawler? You know the part where Renee Russo tells Jake Gyllenhal that she doesn?t want footage of a black or latino person dying, she wants news stories about affluent white people being killed? That?s not made up out of whole cloth ? there is a news bias toward stories that the majority of the audience (who are white) can identify with. So when a young black man gets killed (prior to the recent police shootings), it?s generally not considered ?news?, while a middle-aged white woman being killed is treated as news. And to a large degree, that is accurate ? young black men are killed in significantly disproportionate numbers, which is why we don?t treat it as anything new. But the result is that, societally, we don?t pay as much attention to certain people?s deaths as we do to others. So, currently, we don?t treat all lives as though they matter equally.Just like asking dad for your fair share, the phrase ?black lives matter? also has an implicit ?too? at the end: it?s saying that black lives should also matter. But responding to this by saying ?all lives matter? is willfully going back to ignoring the problem. It?s a way of dismissing the statement by falsely suggesting that it means ?only black lives matter,? when that is obviously not the case. And so saying ?all lives matter? as a direct response to ?black lives matter? is essentially saying that we should just go back to ignoring the problem.
Quote from: Ms Malika on July 12, 2016, 06:07:24 PMQuote from: RIGGY on July 12, 2016, 06:05:48 PMQuoteImagine that you?re sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don?t get any. So you say ?I should get my fair share.? And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, ?everyone should get their fair share.? Now, that?s a wonderful sentiment ? indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place: that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also. However, dad?s smart-ass comment just dismissed you and didn?t solve the problem that you still haven?t gotten any!The problem is that the statement ?I should get my fair share? had an implicit ?too? at the end: ?I should get my fair share, too, just like everyone else.? But your dad?s response treated your statement as though you meant ?only I should get my fair share?, which clearly was not your intention. As a result, his statement that ?everyone should get their fair share,? while true, only served to ignore the problem you were trying to point out.That?s the situation of the ?black lives matter? movement. Culture, laws, the arts, religion, and everyone else repeatedly suggest that all lives should matter. Clearly, that message already abounds in our society. The problem is that, in practice, the world doesn?t work that way. You see the film Nightcrawler? You know the part where Renee Russo tells Jake Gyllenhal that she doesn?t want footage of a black or latino person dying, she wants news stories about affluent white people being killed? That?s not made up out of whole cloth ? there is a news bias toward stories that the majority of the audience (who are white) can identify with. So when a young black man gets killed (prior to the recent police shootings), it?s generally not considered ?news?, while a middle-aged white woman being killed is treated as news. And to a large degree, that is accurate ? young black men are killed in significantly disproportionate numbers, which is why we don?t treat it as anything new. But the result is that, societally, we don?t pay as much attention to certain people?s deaths as we do to others. So, currently, we don?t treat all lives as though they matter equally.Just like asking dad for your fair share, the phrase ?black lives matter? also has an implicit ?too? at the end: it?s saying that black lives should also matter. But responding to this by saying ?all lives matter? is willfully going back to ignoring the problem. It?s a way of dismissing the statement by falsely suggesting that it means ?only black lives matter,? when that is obviously not the case. And so saying ?all lives matter? as a direct response to ?black lives matter? is essentially saying that we should just go back to ignoring the problem.
Quote from: RIGGY on July 12, 2016, 06:05:48 PMQuoteImagine that you?re sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don?t get any. So you say ?I should get my fair share.? And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, ?everyone should get their fair share.? Now, that?s a wonderful sentiment ? indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place: that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also. However, dad?s smart-ass comment just dismissed you and didn?t solve the problem that you still haven?t gotten any!The problem is that the statement ?I should get my fair share? had an implicit ?too? at the end: ?I should get my fair share, too, just like everyone else.? But your dad?s response treated your statement as though you meant ?only I should get my fair share?, which clearly was not your intention. As a result, his statement that ?everyone should get their fair share,? while true, only served to ignore the problem you were trying to point out.That?s the situation of the ?black lives matter? movement. Culture, laws, the arts, religion, and everyone else repeatedly suggest that all lives should matter. Clearly, that message already abounds in our society. The problem is that, in practice, the world doesn?t work that way. You see the film Nightcrawler? You know the part where Renee Russo tells Jake Gyllenhal that she doesn?t want footage of a black or latino person dying, she wants news stories about affluent white people being killed? That?s not made up out of whole cloth ? there is a news bias toward stories that the majority of the audience (who are white) can identify with. So when a young black man gets killed (prior to the recent police shootings), it?s generally not considered ?news?, while a middle-aged white woman being killed is treated as news. And to a large degree, that is accurate ? young black men are killed in significantly disproportionate numbers, which is why we don?t treat it as anything new. But the result is that, societally, we don?t pay as much attention to certain people?s deaths as we do to others. So, currently, we don?t treat all lives as though they matter equally.Just like asking dad for your fair share, the phrase ?black lives matter? also has an implicit ?too? at the end: it?s saying that black lives should also matter. But responding to this by saying ?all lives matter? is willfully going back to ignoring the problem. It?s a way of dismissing the statement by falsely suggesting that it means ?only black lives matter,? when that is obviously not the case. And so saying ?all lives matter? as a direct response to ?black lives matter? is essentially saying that we should just go back to ignoring the problem.
QuoteImagine that you?re sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don?t get any. So you say ?I should get my fair share.? And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, ?everyone should get their fair share.? Now, that?s a wonderful sentiment ? indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place: that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also. However, dad?s smart-ass comment just dismissed you and didn?t solve the problem that you still haven?t gotten any!The problem is that the statement ?I should get my fair share? had an implicit ?too? at the end: ?I should get my fair share, too, just like everyone else.? But your dad?s response treated your statement as though you meant ?only I should get my fair share?, which clearly was not your intention. As a result, his statement that ?everyone should get their fair share,? while true, only served to ignore the problem you were trying to point out.That?s the situation of the ?black lives matter? movement. Culture, laws, the arts, religion, and everyone else repeatedly suggest that all lives should matter. Clearly, that message already abounds in our society. The problem is that, in practice, the world doesn?t work that way. You see the film Nightcrawler? You know the part where Renee Russo tells Jake Gyllenhal that she doesn?t want footage of a black or latino person dying, she wants news stories about affluent white people being killed? That?s not made up out of whole cloth ? there is a news bias toward stories that the majority of the audience (who are white) can identify with. So when a young black man gets killed (prior to the recent police shootings), it?s generally not considered ?news?, while a middle-aged white woman being killed is treated as news. And to a large degree, that is accurate ? young black men are killed in significantly disproportionate numbers, which is why we don?t treat it as anything new. But the result is that, societally, we don?t pay as much attention to certain people?s deaths as we do to others. So, currently, we don?t treat all lives as though they matter equally.Just like asking dad for your fair share, the phrase ?black lives matter? also has an implicit ?too? at the end: it?s saying that black lives should also matter. But responding to this by saying ?all lives matter? is willfully going back to ignoring the problem. It?s a way of dismissing the statement by falsely suggesting that it means ?only black lives matter,? when that is obviously not the case. And so saying ?all lives matter? as a direct response to ?black lives matter? is essentially saying that we should just go back to ignoring the problem.
Quote from: r u ok on July 12, 2016, 06:21:08 PM#alllivesmattahYeahI said it Come get me! Lmaooooooo
Quote from: r u ok on July 12, 2016, 06:27:45 PMQuote from: Ms Malika on July 12, 2016, 06:24:46 PMQuote from: r u ok on July 12, 2016, 06:21:08 PM#alllivesmattahYeahI said it Come get me! Lmaoooooooi can't help it I'm naturally different. Edgy And out of the box .i stand with our police officers!
Quote from: Ms Malika on July 12, 2016, 06:24:46 PMQuote from: r u ok on July 12, 2016, 06:21:08 PM#alllivesmattahYeahI said it Come get me! Lmaooooooo
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 12, 2016, 02:16:24 PMSaying ALM wouldn't matter......AT ANY OTHER TIME! BLM was implemented for a reason and screaming ALM at this time is an attempt to change the narrative imo. U werent preaching all lives matter before we started raising awareness to the crimes targeting AA so don't yell it now. Its definitely a tactic to deviate from the issue at hand and its complete bullshit TBRFHWY
Quote from: Genesis on July 12, 2016, 05:55:04 PMNever seen a freeway shut down to protest because of those babies shot in the crossfire of a gangwar.
Quote from: Kurama on July 12, 2016, 02:58:23 PMQuote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on July 12, 2016, 01:56:46 PMShe should know better
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on July 12, 2016, 01:56:46 PMShe should know better
Quote from: imani on July 12, 2016, 06:41:39 PMQuote from: Genesis on July 12, 2016, 05:55:04 PMNever seen a freeway shut down to protest because of those babies shot in the crossfire of a gangwar.I wish people would stop saying stupid shit like this. People kill each other every damn day. There's an act of violence happening on an innocent human being at this moment as I type this. When you say dumb shit like "what about black on black crime" you're opening an entire new subject that has nothing to do with the black lives matter movement, k? And another thing there's no such thing as 'black on black' crime. It's called intraracical crime and whites are the MAIN offenders of that.
Quote from: GRAND on July 12, 2016, 01:54:14 PMgI don't think everyone that says alllivesmatters should be condemnedSome people just need to be educated. But being a fcking taco. She should have an idea
Quote from: RIGGY on July 12, 2016, 05:54:17 PMQuote from: GRAND on July 12, 2016, 02:26:23 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 12, 2016, 02:16:24 PMSaying ALM wouldn't matter......AT ANY OTHER TIME! BLM was implemented for a reason and screaming ALM at this time is an attempt to change the narrative imo. U werent preaching all lives matter before we started raising awareness to the crimes targeting AA so don't yell it now. Its definitely a tactic to deviate from the issue at hand and its complete bullshit TBRFHWYI agreeI just feel bad for the people that are uninformed idiots, that mean well id be easier on her if she were sheltered her entire life and grew up in Hollywood. That's not the case for her I'm shocked she'd wanna pander to these folks like that smh
Quote from: GRAND on July 12, 2016, 02:26:23 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on July 12, 2016, 02:16:24 PMSaying ALM wouldn't matter......AT ANY OTHER TIME! BLM was implemented for a reason and screaming ALM at this time is an attempt to change the narrative imo. U werent preaching all lives matter before we started raising awareness to the crimes targeting AA so don't yell it now. Its definitely a tactic to deviate from the issue at hand and its complete bullshit TBRFHWYI agreeI just feel bad for the people that are uninformed idiots, that mean well
