Religious members.... How do you feel about Science ?

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Gilgamesh.

Science justfies the "how" and "what", it doesn't explain WHY (to me). But you can't have one without the other.

Gilgamesh.

Quote from: Yar backwards on July 19, 2016, 10:08:06 PM
so the question was towards religious members
and a bunch of atheists answered, does science go against literacy or...? :uhh:

m,mkmf

wait Ray

FlowerBomb

Quote from: Gilgamesh. on July 20, 2016, 07:20:23 AM
Science justfies the "how" and "what", it doesn't explain WHY (to me). But you can't have one without the other.

RAY7

Quote from: admc on July 20, 2016, 02:54:08 AM
Quote from: Yar backwards on July 19, 2016, 10:10:39 PM
both religion and science are based in faith
Um, not really :-/
yes really all ppl who believe in everything science pretty much have faith that what is told to them through "research" is correct
no one really knows for sure what happened millions of years ago

FlowerBomb

Science is factual though, it comes with hard numbers, concrete evidence and proof.
That "research" is tested, peer reviewed and validated before it's published
Religion is based on faith, feeling and spirituality, there isn't cold hard evidence.

RAY7

All of that is a fancy way to say faith
"Peer reviewed" so basically you're trusting what a another person said
because he/she is a "scientist" given a degree/certificate or whatever that says so
It's all very similar, and that's why there are so many conflicting "theories" and "studies" everyday
One day Pluto is a Planet, one day it's a moon
One day the Ice Age killed the dinosaurs, then it was a comet
whatever

Real

Quote from: Gilgamesh. on July 20, 2016, 07:20:23 AM
Science justfies the "how" and "what", it doesn't explain WHY (to me). But you can't have one without the other.

Good way to.put it

Real

Christianity aside, I don't see how people can live without faith in something .

LOONA.

Quote from: Capricorn King on July 20, 2016, 07:31:11 AM
Science is factual though, it comes with hard numbers, concrete evidence and proof.
That "research" is tested, peer reviewed and validated before it's published
Religion is based on faith, feeling and spirituality, there isn't cold hard evidence.

Come on logic   

FlowerBomb

Quote from: Yar backwards on July 20, 2016, 07:46:10 AM
All of that is a fancy way to say faith
"Peer reviewed" so basically you're trusting what a another person said
because he/she is a "scientist" given a degree/certificate or whatever that says so
It's all very similar, and that's why there are so many conflicting "theories" and "studies" everyday
One day Pluto is a Planet, one day it's a moon
One day the Ice Age killed the dinosaurs, then it was a comet
whatever

Quote"Peer reviewed" so basically you're trusting what a another person said
because he/she is a "scientist" given a degree/certificate or whatever that says so
"Peer reviewed" as in one scientist spends years proving a theory before bringing it forward, before OTHER scientist means test, review it put it into more studies before releasing it.
A good example of that is clinical trials and medication

Sounds like your downplaying what experts do, why wouldn't you take stock in someone who's spent years in school, who's constantly educating themselves on trying to prove a thesis? They have a degree for that very reason :dead:

QuoteIt's all very similar, and that's why there are so many conflicting "theories" and "studies" everyday
One day Pluto is a Planet, one day it's a moon
One day the Ice Age killed the dinosaurs, then it was a comet

Your right, there are many conflicting studies out there, but the things you listed are examples are things that are being worked on everyday, the planet thing isn't a good example because we are STILL learning about the universe, planets are still being discovered, expeditions are being carried out every few years for new information.
Most things cant be refuted, for example, we know the sun's process in how plants grow, we know how electricity works, we know what things are needed in order to make fire :dead:


RAY7

Quote from: Capricorn King on July 20, 2016, 08:57:21 AM
Quote from: Yar backwards on July 20, 2016, 07:46:10 AM
All of that is a fancy way to say faith
"Peer reviewed" so basically you're trusting what a another person said
because he/she is a "scientist" given a degree/certificate or whatever that says so
It's all very similar, and that's why there are so many conflicting "theories" and "studies" everyday
One day Pluto is a Planet, one day it's a moon
One day the Ice Age killed the dinosaurs, then it was a comet
whatever

Quote"Peer reviewed" so basically you're trusting what a another person said
because he/she is a "scientist" given a degree/certificate or whatever that says so
"Peer reviewed" as in one scientist spends years proving a theory before bringing it forward, before OTHER scientist means test, review it put it into more studies before releasing it.
A good example of that is clinical trials and medication

Sounds like your downplaying what experts do, why wouldn't you take stock in someone who's spent years in school, who's constantly educating themselves on trying to prove a thesis? They have a degree for that very reason :dead:

QuoteIt's all very similar, and that's why there are so many conflicting "theories" and "studies" everyday
One day Pluto is a Planet, one day it's a moon
One day the Ice Age killed the dinosaurs, then it was a comet

Your right, there are many conflicting studies out there, but the things you listed are examples are things that are being worked on everyday, the planet thing isn't a good example because we are STILL learning about the universe, planets are still being discovered, expeditions are being carried out every few years for new information.
Most things cant be refuted, for example, we know the sun's process in how plants grow, we know how electricity works, we know what things are needed in order to make fire :dead:
none of this is conflicting with what I said it's just a drawn out explanation


Zankou.

Quote from: Yar backwards on July 19, 2016, 10:08:06 PM
so the question was towards religious members
and a bunch of atheists answered, does science go against literacy or...? :uhh:

what the world


Zankou.

don't you have to eat your first born to be inducted or something