#RealTalk, would you condone/allow your kid to identify as trans?

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SouravMay

Quote from: gizzards & goya. on September 18, 2016, 04:36:39 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on September 18, 2016, 04:26:23 PM
Wouldn't want to teach my children that you can run from your truth, if ya a mans, ya a mans
Running from the truth would imply pushing them towards being a female.

Don't know if your post is in response to what I said but I'll say this....

You can be gender non conforming and still acknowledge and love who you are. lol. I love having a penis, would never wanna have to SQUAT over a public toilet just to take a piss, I'd never want a menstrual cycle, etc.

Basically, I would never want to be an actual woman. I mean if I give feminine teas naturally that's fine. I know GODman said she felt I genuinely have the gentle spirit that's almost womanly...people say I have pretty hair, skin...ok great. that kinda stuff is beautiful to me. It's all mine, and it's natural. inside and out.

But I am not a woman. I am a man.  :supluv:

Even though I am non conforming there are certain things I still do. Which is show women respect. Open doors for them, pay them compliments... acknowledge the fact that they LITERALLY give life to the world. And treat them with that level of respect.
Oh we are completely on the same page. You can act however you want, like what you like, but you cannot run from your biology. At the end of the day you are a man. Who says men can't play with Barbies or have soft voices...

lol Gender conforming to me is believing you have to alter your body, in order to express all your feelings and desires. The body, if it is healthy and functioning, is perfect the way it is, no need for plastic genitalia, unless you are old enough to decide for yourself and earn the coin for your own beauty surge mess, then do you, but not in my house.

My child will not be delusional thinking it's a boy, when sis has a puss.
B7

GRAND

Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on September 18, 2016, 04:40:11 PM
Quote from: gizzards & goya. on September 18, 2016, 04:36:39 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on September 18, 2016, 04:26:23 PM
Wouldn't want to teach my children that you can run from your truth, if ya a mans, ya a mans
Running from the truth would imply pushing them towards being a female.

Don't know if your post is in response to what I said but I'll say this....

You can be gender non conforming and still acknowledge and love who you are. lol. I love having a penis, would never wanna have to SQUAT over a public toilet just to take a piss, I'd never want a menstrual cycle, etc.

Basically, I would never want to be an actual woman. I mean if I give feminine teas naturally that's fine. I know GODman said she felt I genuinely have the gentle spirit that's almost womanly...people say I have pretty hair, skin...ok great. that kinda stuff is beautiful to me. It's all mine, and it's natural. inside and out.

But I am not a woman. I am a man.  :supluv:

Even though I am non conforming there are certain things I still do. Which is show women respect. Open doors for them, pay them compliments... acknowledge the fact that they LITERALLY give life to the world. And treat them with that level of respect.
Oh we are completely on the same page. You can act however you want, like what you like, but you cannot run from your biology. At the end of the day you are a man. Who says men can't play with Barbies or have soft voices...

lol Gender conforming to me is believing you have to alter your body, in order to express all your feelings and desires. The body, if it is healthy and functioning, is perfect the way it is, no need for plastic genitalia, unless you are old enough to decide for yourself and earn the coin for your own beauty surge mess, then do you, but not in my house.

My child will not be delusional thinking it's a boy, when sis has a puss.
But Malc

What's your response when people say 'your doo doo hole ain't meant for PENIS! exit ONLY!'

:omgwatshappening:

BAPHOMET.

and for this topic. I guess I wouldn't have a choice tbh
Either that or they'll hate you and you'll lose contact. People are gonna do what they want.


SouravMay

Quote from: GRAND on September 18, 2016, 04:41:43 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on September 18, 2016, 04:40:11 PM
Quote from: gizzards & goya. on September 18, 2016, 04:36:39 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on September 18, 2016, 04:26:23 PM
Wouldn't want to teach my children that you can run from your truth, if ya a mans, ya a mans
Running from the truth would imply pushing them towards being a female.

Don't know if your post is in response to what I said but I'll say this....

You can be gender non conforming and still acknowledge and love who you are. lol. I love having a penis, would never wanna have to SQUAT over a public toilet just to take a piss, I'd never want a menstrual cycle, etc.

Basically, I would never want to be an actual woman. I mean if I give feminine teas naturally that's fine. I know GODman said she felt I genuinely have the gentle spirit that's almost womanly...people say I have pretty hair, skin...ok great. that kinda stuff is beautiful to me. It's all mine, and it's natural. inside and out.

But I am not a woman. I am a man.  :supluv:

Even though I am non conforming there are certain things I still do. Which is show women respect. Open doors for them, pay them compliments... acknowledge the fact that they LITERALLY give life to the world. And treat them with that level of respect.
Oh we are completely on the same page. You can act however you want, like what you like, but you cannot run from your biology. At the end of the day you are a man. Who says men can't play with Barbies or have soft voices...

lol Gender conforming to me is believing you have to alter your body, in order to express all your feelings and desires. The body, if it is healthy and functioning, is perfect the way it is, no need for plastic genitalia, unless you are old enough to decide for yourself and earn the coin for your own beauty surge mess, then do you, but not in my house.

My child will not be delusional thinking it's a boy, when sis has a puss.
But Malc

What's your response when people say 'your doo doo hole ain't meant for PENIS! exit ONLY!'

:omgwatshappening:

But where is the relation? Again if you are grown you can use your body however you want. But undergoing a sex change and denying your birth sex, and having a penis in your butt are not necessarily comparable.

One does not require you to succumb to societal pressure to synchronize your alleged gender-specific spirit with a different body and also has no long term effects on you, while the other comes with high health risks.

By subscribing to the notion that feminine soul = female-ness, we are basically agreeing that men and women are different from eachother beyond their anatomy, and this is something feminists have been fighting against forever, rightfully so IMO.
B7

GRAND

Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on September 18, 2016, 04:47:32 PM
Quote from: GRAND on September 18, 2016, 04:41:43 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on September 18, 2016, 04:40:11 PM
Quote from: gizzards & goya. on September 18, 2016, 04:36:39 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on September 18, 2016, 04:26:23 PM
Wouldn't want to teach my children that you can run from your truth, if ya a mans, ya a mans
Running from the truth would imply pushing them towards being a female.

Don't know if your post is in response to what I said but I'll say this....

You can be gender non conforming and still acknowledge and love who you are. lol. I love having a penis, would never wanna have to SQUAT over a public toilet just to take a piss, I'd never want a menstrual cycle, etc.

Basically, I would never want to be an actual woman. I mean if I give feminine teas naturally that's fine. I know GODman said she felt I genuinely have the gentle spirit that's almost womanly...people say I have pretty hair, skin...ok great. that kinda stuff is beautiful to me. It's all mine, and it's natural. inside and out.

But I am not a woman. I am a man.  :supluv:

Even though I am non conforming there are certain things I still do. Which is show women respect. Open doors for them, pay them compliments... acknowledge the fact that they LITERALLY give life to the world. And treat them with that level of respect.
Oh we are completely on the same page. You can act however you want, like what you like, but you cannot run from your biology. At the end of the day you are a man. Who says men can't play with Barbies or have soft voices...

lol Gender conforming to me is believing you have to alter your body, in order to express all your feelings and desires. The body, if it is healthy and functioning, is perfect the way it is, no need for plastic genitalia, unless you are old enough to decide for yourself and earn the coin for your own beauty surge mess, then do you, but not in my house.

My child will not be delusional thinking it's a boy, when sis has a puss.
But Malc

What's your response when people say 'your doo doo hole ain't meant for PENIS! exit ONLY!'

:omgwatshappening:

But where is the relation? Again if you are grown you can use your body however you want. But undergoing a sex change and denying your birth sex, and having a penis in your butt are not necessarily comparable.

One does not require you to succumb to societal pressure to synchronize your alleged gender-specific spirit with a different body and also has no long term effects on you, while the other comes with high health risks.

By subscribing to the notion that feminine soul = female-ness, we are basically agreeing that men and women are different from eachother beyond their anatomy, and this is something feminists have been fighting against forever, rightfully so IMO.
Beyond that -- people are going to say 'Its my body, this is how I feel, blah blah blah'

So, I'm asking, how do you explain sexuality?

SouravMay

Quote from: GRAND on September 18, 2016, 04:53:39 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on September 18, 2016, 04:47:32 PM
Quote from: GRAND on September 18, 2016, 04:41:43 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on September 18, 2016, 04:40:11 PM
Quote from: gizzards & goya. on September 18, 2016, 04:36:39 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on September 18, 2016, 04:26:23 PM
Wouldn't want to teach my children that you can run from your truth, if ya a mans, ya a mans
Running from the truth would imply pushing them towards being a female.

Don't know if your post is in response to what I said but I'll say this....

You can be gender non conforming and still acknowledge and love who you are. lol. I love having a penis, would never wanna have to SQUAT over a public toilet just to take a piss, I'd never want a menstrual cycle, etc.

Basically, I would never want to be an actual woman. I mean if I give feminine teas naturally that's fine. I know GODman said she felt I genuinely have the gentle spirit that's almost womanly...people say I have pretty hair, skin...ok great. that kinda stuff is beautiful to me. It's all mine, and it's natural. inside and out.

But I am not a woman. I am a man.  :supluv:

Even though I am non conforming there are certain things I still do. Which is show women respect. Open doors for them, pay them compliments... acknowledge the fact that they LITERALLY give life to the world. And treat them with that level of respect.
Oh we are completely on the same page. You can act however you want, like what you like, but you cannot run from your biology. At the end of the day you are a man. Who says men can't play with Barbies or have soft voices...

lol Gender conforming to me is believing you have to alter your body, in order to express all your feelings and desires. The body, if it is healthy and functioning, is perfect the way it is, no need for plastic genitalia, unless you are old enough to decide for yourself and earn the coin for your own beauty surge mess, then do you, but not in my house.

My child will not be delusional thinking it's a boy, when sis has a puss.
But Malc

What's your response when people say 'your doo doo hole ain't meant for PENIS! exit ONLY!'

:omgwatshappening:

But where is the relation? Again if you are grown you can use your body however you want. But undergoing a sex change and denying your birth sex, and having a penis in your butt are not necessarily comparable.

One does not require you to succumb to societal pressure to synchronize your alleged gender-specific spirit with a different body and also has no long term effects on you, while the other comes with high health risks.

By subscribing to the notion that feminine soul = female-ness, we are basically agreeing that men and women are different from eachother beyond their anatomy, and this is something feminists have been fighting against forever, rightfully so IMO.
Beyond that -- people are going to say 'Its my body, this is how I feel, blah blah blah'

So, I'm asking, how do you explain sexuality?

It is natural for humans to be attracted to eachother... Where are you going with this? Something does not have to be natural for it to be correct, it is about self-acceptance and body health. In a world without surge or technology you can still be gay, but not trans.

If your child says she likes boys, you can't argue with that. Because it is something subjective. But when she says, she is a man, you have to teach her the definition of a man, and the definition of a woman. That is nothing you can decide.
B7

GRAND

Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on September 18, 2016, 04:58:15 PM
Quote from: GRAND on September 18, 2016, 04:53:39 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on September 18, 2016, 04:47:32 PM
Quote from: GRAND on September 18, 2016, 04:41:43 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on September 18, 2016, 04:40:11 PM
Quote from: gizzards & goya. on September 18, 2016, 04:36:39 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on September 18, 2016, 04:26:23 PM
Wouldn't want to teach my children that you can run from your truth, if ya a mans, ya a mans
Running from the truth would imply pushing them towards being a female.

Don't know if your post is in response to what I said but I'll say this....

You can be gender non conforming and still acknowledge and love who you are. lol. I love having a penis, would never wanna have to SQUAT over a public toilet just to take a piss, I'd never want a menstrual cycle, etc.

Basically, I would never want to be an actual woman. I mean if I give feminine teas naturally that's fine. I know GODman said she felt I genuinely have the gentle spirit that's almost womanly...people say I have pretty hair, skin...ok great. that kinda stuff is beautiful to me. It's all mine, and it's natural. inside and out.

But I am not a woman. I am a man.  :supluv:

Even though I am non conforming there are certain things I still do. Which is show women respect. Open doors for them, pay them compliments... acknowledge the fact that they LITERALLY give life to the world. And treat them with that level of respect.
Oh we are completely on the same page. You can act however you want, like what you like, but you cannot run from your biology. At the end of the day you are a man. Who says men can't play with Barbies or have soft voices...

lol Gender conforming to me is believing you have to alter your body, in order to express all your feelings and desires. The body, if it is healthy and functioning, is perfect the way it is, no need for plastic genitalia, unless you are old enough to decide for yourself and earn the coin for your own beauty surge mess, then do you, but not in my house.

My child will not be delusional thinking it's a boy, when sis has a puss.
But Malc

What's your response when people say 'your doo doo hole ain't meant for PENIS! exit ONLY!'

:omgwatshappening:

But where is the relation? Again if you are grown you can use your body however you want. But undergoing a sex change and denying your birth sex, and having a penis in your butt are not necessarily comparable.

One does not require you to succumb to societal pressure to synchronize your alleged gender-specific spirit with a different body and also has no long term effects on you, while the other comes with high health risks.

By subscribing to the notion that feminine soul = female-ness, we are basically agreeing that men and women are different from eachother beyond their anatomy, and this is something feminists have been fighting against forever, rightfully so IMO.
Beyond that -- people are going to say 'Its my body, this is how I feel, blah blah blah'

So, I'm asking, how do you explain sexuality?

It is natural for humans to be attracted to eachother... Where are you going with this? Something does not have to be natural for it to be correct, it is about self-acceptance and body health. In a world without surge or technology you can still be gay, but not trans.

If your child says she likes boys, you can't argue with that. Because it is something subjective. But when she says, she is a man, you have to teach her the definition of a man, and the definition of a woman. That is nothing you can decide.
Because, Biologically the penis is meant for vagina and the anus isn't meant for damns dick.  One could argue that the same way you're arguing how someone should define themselves.

como la whore

there are lots of trans individuals who are just fine without "surgery and technology" and don't have anything done. I've seen some m2f  and f2m that pass really well even without hormones, who just happen to have more feminine or masculine features.

Being trans has nothing to do with getting surgery. they've existed forever. Even before "surgery and technology"

this isn't some new epidemic.


But that's all i'm gonna say about THAT. not here to debate.

have a lovely day everyone
:traciandchelle:


SouravMay

Quote from: GRAND on September 18, 2016, 05:04:06 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on September 18, 2016, 04:58:15 PM
Quote from: GRAND on September 18, 2016, 04:53:39 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on September 18, 2016, 04:47:32 PM
Quote from: GRAND on September 18, 2016, 04:41:43 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on September 18, 2016, 04:40:11 PM
Quote from: gizzards & goya. on September 18, 2016, 04:36:39 PM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on September 18, 2016, 04:26:23 PM
Wouldn't want to teach my children that you can run from your truth, if ya a mans, ya a mans
Running from the truth would imply pushing them towards being a female.

Don't know if your post is in response to what I said but I'll say this....

You can be gender non conforming and still acknowledge and love who you are. lol. I love having a penis, would never wanna have to SQUAT over a public toilet just to take a piss, I'd never want a menstrual cycle, etc.

Basically, I would never want to be an actual woman. I mean if I give feminine teas naturally that's fine. I know GODman said she felt I genuinely have the gentle spirit that's almost womanly...people say I have pretty hair, skin...ok great. that kinda stuff is beautiful to me. It's all mine, and it's natural. inside and out.

But I am not a woman. I am a man.  :supluv:

Even though I am non conforming there are certain things I still do. Which is show women respect. Open doors for them, pay them compliments... acknowledge the fact that they LITERALLY give life to the world. And treat them with that level of respect.
Oh we are completely on the same page. You can act however you want, like what you like, but you cannot run from your biology. At the end of the day you are a man. Who says men can't play with Barbies or have soft voices...

lol Gender conforming to me is believing you have to alter your body, in order to express all your feelings and desires. The body, if it is healthy and functioning, is perfect the way it is, no need for plastic genitalia, unless you are old enough to decide for yourself and earn the coin for your own beauty surge mess, then do you, but not in my house.

My child will not be delusional thinking it's a boy, when sis has a puss.
But Malc

What's your response when people say 'your doo doo hole ain't meant for PENIS! exit ONLY!'

:omgwatshappening:

But where is the relation? Again if you are grown you can use your body however you want. But undergoing a sex change and denying your birth sex, and having a penis in your butt are not necessarily comparable.

One does not require you to succumb to societal pressure to synchronize your alleged gender-specific spirit with a different body and also has no long term effects on you, while the other comes with high health risks.

By subscribing to the notion that feminine soul = female-ness, we are basically agreeing that men and women are different from eachother beyond their anatomy, and this is something feminists have been fighting against forever, rightfully so IMO.
Beyond that -- people are going to say 'Its my body, this is how I feel, blah blah blah'

So, I'm asking, how do you explain sexuality?

It is natural for humans to be attracted to eachother... Where are you going with this? Something does not have to be natural for it to be correct, it is about self-acceptance and body health. In a world without surge or technology you can still be gay, but not trans.

If your child says she likes boys, you can't argue with that. Because it is something subjective. But when she says, she is a man, you have to teach her the definition of a man, and the definition of a woman. That is nothing you can decide.
Because, Biologically the penis is meant for vagina and the anus isn't meant for damns dick.  One could argue that the same way you're arguing how someone should define themselves.

No you could not. Sexual identity and sexual behavior are not the same thing.

And the male g-spot is in the butt, and the dick perfectly fits. Why would biology set it up for a man to feel pleasure through penile stimulation?
B7


SouravMay

Quote from: CDY on September 18, 2016, 05:05:10 PM
there are lots of trans individuals who are just fine without "surgery and technology" and don't have anything done. I've seen some m2f  and f2m that pass really well even without hormones, who just happen to have more feminine or masculine features.

Being trans has nothing to do with getting surgery. they've existed forever. Even before "surgery and technology"

this isn't some new epidemic.


But that's all i'm gonna say about THAT. not here to debate.

have a lovely day everyone
:traciandchelle:

How are you trans when you don't change your body, how does that turn you into a man, and not just a woman that looks like one when she is dressed?
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SouravMay

Can you strip away vagina, menstruation, and all anatomical features of womanhood from what it means to be a woman?

Is a woman, what society tells you a woman is? Dresses, pronouns and make-up?

I am sorry, the fact that the word "woman" now is supposed to carry more information than a simple neutral anatomical state of a human being is frightening.
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