Quote from: L0NZ. on January 05, 2017, 11:37:54 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on January 05, 2017, 11:20:27 PM
Stereotypes had nothing to do with the point
That's just a common thing racist say, 'you're not like the others lol'
The same way some homoohobe would say "I don't agree with who you are as a human being, but I love you anyway because I pity you or some weird shit that I can't explain"
It's disgusting. I'd hate to have a relationship with someone who told me they didn't agree with who I was.
Cant relate to ya'll. In my experience there have been people I've "come out" to, people with whom Ive had lengthy relationships with who may not get why I do what I do, and disagree yes probably from a religious standpoint but I'm very sure they arent homophobes in any form. One in particular took interest in just wanting to learn more about that part of me. The worst they do is misunderstand. That is enough for me to find truth in the original post. I'm acknowledging that it's possible because Ive experienced it. You all are claiming it's impossible because you're cynical and accept blanket statements.
Sounds like you've had various reactions when you did decide to come out to people. Not sure where this "yall" thing is coming from, none of us have really shared our coming out experiences in the thread for you to disassociate your experiences from everyone elses.
Also, it really just seems like we all have different definitions of "acceptance" or "love". Acceptance or love is unconditional imo. It's not something that has fine print attached to it. To accept someone is to fully be comfortable and receptive of whatever it is being offered.
To say "I don't agree with the way you exist but I love you" isn't acceptance...it's TOLERANCE. That's something drastically different and Its unfortunate that some of you seem to have settled for this or believe it's what genuine acceptance looks like.
For you "racism vs homop'" folks,
I thought it was pretty obvious why the parallels between racism and homophobia were brought up again. Outside of it being another example of disenfranchising an entire group of people and stripping them of their humanity; religious indoctrination has been the primary tool to enforce and reinforce both.
Religion was used to justify:
Killing millions across the globe
To loot, pillage, and colonize others land
To ENSLAVE your great great grandparents
To RAPE your ancestors & grandparents
To create laws that marginalize your people
Get my point? The KKK is a religious terrorist group btw. So if you find yourself in here grappling with why these parallels are being discussed today, you might wanna lay off the keyboard and go read up on some things. Seems like a few of you don't even know your own religious doctrine. Or maybe you pick in choose which parts you like and don't (like the rest of your people) which is the whole fuckin point of what we're talking about but mkay.