What Happened To Female Rap?

Started by D.I.E.G.O., January 07, 2017, 07:49:32 PM

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So Azealia's not that great but Nicki is?

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Nick boy...

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Nicki would BODY  Ashley banks in a freestyle battle ..lets just say that PLUS  as i said before I have heard all of her Fantasea mess and the album with ice princess on it and she doesnt really have anything worth listening too.  If she had better producers she prolly could slay but she has cussed them all out on twitter lol

but yeah her only good songs are 212 and Ice Princess and thats really it lolz

ssw4919

Zeal was great with her dance and niche making her own way.

But I wish she did a lil more straight rap for the hood every once in awhile when she was getting her name out there.  She killed this.


ssw4919

Quote from: TEXASbama on January 09, 2017, 03:21:02 AM
Nicki would BODY  Ashley banks in a freestyle battle ..lets just say that PLUS  as i said before I have heard all of her Fantasea mess and the album with ice princess on it and she doesnt really have anything worth listening too.  If she had better producers she prolly could slay but she has cussed them all out on twitter lol

but yeah her only good songs are 212 and Ice Princess and thats really it lolz

Nathan
Esta Noche
1991


Really everything on 1991 and Fantasea >>>>>

FINE.

She has plenty of good music. You listened to all her mess and those were the only songs that stuck out? n
You're a hater and Nicki is shit.

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Quote from: bougi?. on January 09, 2017, 03:32:13 AM
She has plenty of good music. You listened to all her mess and those were the only songs that stuck out? n
You're a hater and Nicki is shit.

how is that hating?? i listened too all her mixtapes and gave her a fair shot..  i couldnt find anything that really screamed HIT like ice princess. heavy metal and reflective was cute too but yeah she isnt seeing nicki at ALL and you all know it

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Quote from: ssw4919 on January 09, 2017, 03:29:54 AM
Quote from: TEXASbama on January 09, 2017, 03:21:02 AM
Nicki would BODY  Ashley banks in a freestyle battle ..lets just say that PLUS  as i said before I have heard all of her Fantasea mess and the album with ice princess on it and she doesnt really have anything worth listening too.  If she had better producers she prolly could slay but she has cussed them all out on twitter lol

but yeah her only good songs are 212 and Ice Princess and thats really it lolz

Nathan
Esta Noche
1991


Really everything on 1991 and Fantasea >>>>>
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maybe i need to go revisit and see what else i can come up with lol but as of today

Nicki>>>>>>> Azelia

SouravMay

For some reason all major female rappers were taken OWT in the mid-2000's.

Foxy went deaf, Missy got sick, Lauryn and Amil lost their minds, Left-Eye died, Lil Kim & Remy went to jail, Eve did that sitcom...

Only one coming up was Lil Mama and she fucked it up at the VMA's.
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Quote from: bougi?. on January 09, 2017, 03:32:13 AM
She has plenty of good music. You listened to all her mess and those were the only songs that stuck out? n
You're a hater and Nicki is shit.
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212 and Ice Princess?
:dead:

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I think it's really the major labels not believing and investing in them.

Beau

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kodie shane she's young but definitely see her gaining exposure..
Tink ...is dope as well

LiiVE

Quote from: TEXASbama on January 09, 2017, 03:59:34 AM
Quote from: bougi?. on January 09, 2017, 03:32:13 AM
She has plenty of good music. You listened to all her mess and those were the only songs that stuck out? n
You're a hater and Nicki is shit.

i couldnt find anything that really screamed HIT like ice princess.

Z

Hits!

Azealia is probably one of the best lyricist in years hun.  I use Nicki but her whole style has become so drab and predicable.

That black barbies remix was proof to me that sis has lost it.
  :hmph:

LiiVE

Quote from: ssw4919 on January 08, 2017, 01:49:51 PM
I was thinking today about this.

I think part of the reason female rap disappeared is because of competition.

If you think abou my it, how many big male rappers cosign and introduce upcoming male rappers?  Lil Wayne introduced Drake, Jay Z introduced Kanye, Dr. Dre introduced Eminem, 50, and Snoop, etc.

Most of these cosignings happen with the elder artist is still in their prime, or still possesses major clout in music so that they can give legitimacy to another artist. 

Rarely did female rappers do that for others, except maybe Missy.  When Foxy, Kim, and all those others were out, they didn't try to pass the torch.  They didn't want to be looked at as older, and have a younger female competing with them.  It's different for women.  A male artist wouldn't have to worry about being phased out as much as a female would.

Anyway, that's what I think contributed to a dearth of female rappers all at once.  It went from a ton in the nineties, to a little less in the early 2000s, to none but Nicki by the end of the decade.  Once Kim went to jail, Foxy went deaf, Eve went to acting and white men, and Remy went to shooting, there were no new girls with legitimacy out there to take over the reins.

Kim tries to consign folks now, and so does Missy, but I think they would have had more impact doing that when they were in their respective primes.
this is so true. I noticed that even r&b females usually need some type of male backing to pop. Aaliyah was backed by rkellt and then Timb n nem, Ashanti was backed by murder inc, Rihanna was back by jayz, Ciara was backed by the entire Atlanta, Nicki was backed by young money, etc.

Imma need these ladies to start getting into fuckin form'

D.I.E.G.O.

Quote from: LiiVE on January 09, 2017, 07:57:46 AM
Quote from: TEXASbama on January 09, 2017, 03:59:34 AM
Quote from: bougi?. on January 09, 2017, 03:32:13 AM
She has plenty of good music. You listened to all her mess and those were the only songs that stuck out? n
You're a hater and Nicki is shit.

i couldnt find anything that really screamed HIT like ice princess.

Z

Hits!

Azealia is probably one of the best lyricist in years hun.  I use Nicki but her whole style has become so drab and predicable.

That black barbies remix was proof to me that sis has lost it.
  :hmph:

I think Azealia is such a dope lyricist. She can also sing a bit and she has such an unorthodox ear. Most girls couldn't rap over the stuff she does. Her pen has a ways to go, but she is definitely a talented writer.

ssw4919

Quote from: LiiVE on January 09, 2017, 08:12:10 AM
Quote from: ssw4919 on January 08, 2017, 01:49:51 PM
I was thinking today about this.

I think part of the reason female rap disappeared is because of competition.

If you think abou my it, how many big male rappers cosign and introduce upcoming male rappers?  Lil Wayne introduced Drake, Jay Z introduced Kanye, Dr. Dre introduced Eminem, 50, and Snoop, etc.

Most of these cosignings happen with the elder artist is still in their prime, or still possesses major clout in music so that they can give legitimacy to another artist. 

Rarely did female rappers do that for others, except maybe Missy.  When Foxy, Kim, and all those others were out, they didn't try to pass the torch.  They didn't want to be looked at as older, and have a younger female competing with them.  It's different for women.  A male artist wouldn't have to worry about being phased out as much as a female would.

Anyway, that's what I think contributed to a dearth of female rappers all at once.  It went from a ton in the nineties, to a little less in the early 2000s, to none but Nicki by the end of the decade.  Once Kim went to jail, Foxy went deaf, Eve went to acting and white men, and Remy went to shooting, there were no new girls with legitimacy out there to take over the reins.

Kim tries to consign folks now, and so does Missy, but I think they would have had more impact doing that when they were in their respective primes.
this is so true. I noticed that even r&b females usually need some type of male backing to pop. Aaliyah was backed by rkellt and then Timb n nem, Ashanti was backed by murder inc, Rihanna was back by jayz, Ciara was backed by the entire Atlanta, Nicki was backed by young money, etc.

Imma need these ladies to start getting into fuckin form'


It extends beyond that.  A lot of the vocal divas were men's creations.  Fiercely controlled and backed by powerful men.  Whitney was Clive's.  Mariah was Tommy's.  Diana was Berry's.