Madonna calls Whitney "horribly mediocre" in old letter

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Vonc2002

Quote from: Bre's Husband on July 14, 2017, 02:53:35 PM
I think the point is whoever you prefer
The best singer of all time wasn't "horribly overrated" :dead:
The nip's could turn around and they the same about Madonna and it would make more sense
It's a cackle coming from someone who wasn't a great singer or dancer herself
And that's my point. 
Madonna wasn't A1 at ANYTHING so how fckn dare u come for a bitch that has inspired most of today's singers. BYE!
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





Vonc2002

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Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:20:34 PM
ITS not like bobby was a fucking catch.

But the way Madonna fucked every damn body. #ThatPussy4Everybody #CommunityPumpum
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Back then Bobby brown couldve definitely been seen as a catch

:X I never saw it for him.

Whitney could've done a billion times better.
People feel the same way about beyonce. These women arent concerned with who we see them with

At least jay was at the top of his game / genre.

Bobby was never popping like that. Whitney literally married down.
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Bobby brown was definitely "popping" when he got with whitney :dead:

Not and never on that global superstar level.

That's like Rihanna marrying Bryson tiller.

It's just not the same wave length.
Are you fckn kidding me  :dead:
Bobby Brown was a part of a legendary r&b group.  And when he did decide to break away and go solo, Bobby's first cd sold like 8 million copies. Bobby brown was a fckn megastar back then.  Not bryson tiller, boy be quiet :kii:

What the hell is 8 mill to whitneys album selling 2 to 3 times that at that time?
You can continue to act like he was Michael or prince if you want to.
The only cd that whitney has that sold 2x more than that is the bodyguard and that happened well after whitney and bobby started fckn. So my original point stands. when bobby brown started fckn around with whitney he was definitely a fckn star. U trying to scoff at 8 million albums sold sounds foolish  :dead:

All whitneys album up to the preachers wife sold 17 mill + worldwide

Bobbys 1st album flopped
The 2nd one did the 8 mill you say
And the 3rd one struggled and only did the little it did because of the Whitney duet.

You're giving him a LOT

Marrying Paula Abdul would've been on his level.
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Yea ok  :dead:
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





GRAND

Quote from: ANIMMAI on July 14, 2017, 02:54:54 PM

And Whitney, Janet and Mariah were all playing kick the can with Madge's wig during most of the 90's, so her underlying bitterness in the letter is understandable.
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GRAND

i forgot they used to lash the fck outta her skinny ass

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Barbie Dangerous

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Celine can fucking sing but girls like Grace Jones, or Bj?rk just embody cutting edge creative passion.

M.I.A and for instance Iggy same thing. Iggy might have a better flow, but M.i.a's music really has depth.

NOBody would even ever compare Celine to grace or bjork.
N dead at those being you're go to names. You're just as fucking pretentious as Madonna.

If you really were into bjork instead of name dropping like Dawn does you'd know how much Madonna ripped of bjork in the early / mid 90s before bowing down and asking for her help.

Or when she made that whole album literally whispering on top of Joi. Giving exactly what joi gave on her own album.

But oh original! Out the box! Envelope pusher!

She paved the way for Kanye, Drake, BEYONC?, Jay-Z ripping of lesser knowns for their own creative rejuvenation. Takes a true business king/queen to do that. Madonna didn't make the corny mistakes MJ & them did. She was always in control of her shit and stayed sane all along while creating a solid product.
It's one thing to say Madge inspired with her fearlessness but paved the way? Has she done anything more edgy than being born black?


XXX.

Quote from: Bre's Husband on July 14, 2017, 02:53:35 PM
I think the point is whoever you prefer
The best singer of all time wasn't "horribly overrated" :dead:
The nip's could turn around and they the same about Madonna and it would make more sense
It's a cackle coming from someone who wasn't a great singer or dancer herself

I like how you worded this.  It's true.

I do think Whitney's artistry is not very good, but I don't think anyone ever said it was.  So, I guess there's no reason to state that.  So, Madonna calling her overrated really is a KI.  Because in terms of natural God given talent, Madonna would get laughed off a stage.  If they both just pumped on stage with a mic and a light in their prime, who's booking?

ssw4919

Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:20:34 PM
ITS not like bobby was a fucking catch.


No, but she didn't know that at the time.

Gilgamesh.

Quote from: GUCCI. on July 14, 2017, 03:16:49 PM
Quote from: Bre's Husband on July 14, 2017, 02:53:35 PM
I think the point is whoever you prefer
The best singer of all time wasn't "horribly overrated" :dead:
The nip's could turn around and they the same about Madonna and it would make more sense
It's a cackle coming from someone who wasn't a great singer or dancer herself

I like how you worded this.  It's true.

I do think Whitney's artistry is not very good, but I don't think anyone ever said it was.  So, I guess there's no reason to state that.  So, Madonna calling her overrated really is a KI.  Because in terms of natural God given talent, Madonna would get laughed off a stage.  If they both just pumped on stage with a mic and a light in their prime, who's booking?

:feelinmyself: :feelinmyself: :feelinmyself:

luv Girls Gone Wild though

ssw4919

Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:28:03 PM

Bobby was never popping like that.

Don't Be Cruel was the best-selling album of 1989. 

Seven times plat, Grammy Awards, huge international tour, awards show performances humping the stage to seduce Whitney.  He was kinda IT.

He really was the King of R&B for awhile.

AIDS

Quote from: ssw4919 on July 14, 2017, 03:18:55 PM
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:20:34 PM
ITS not like bobby was a fucking catch.


No, but she didn't know that at the time.

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she was rolling in crack before she met him

yummy

I remember reading somewhere that Whitney wanted to experiment musically, but Clive pretty much shut it down. He wanted a marketable pop diva who could appeal to all demographics.

Vonc2002

Quote from: ssw4919 on July 14, 2017, 03:23:23 PM
Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:28:03 PM

Bobby was never popping like that.

Don't Be Cruel was the best-selling album of 1989. 

Seven times plat, Grammy Awards, huge international tour, awards show performances humping the stage to seduce Whitney.  He was kinda IT.

He really was the King of R&B for awhile.
Dont bother :dead:
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





Vonc2002

Quote from: ANIMMAI on July 14, 2017, 03:24:00 PM
I remember reading somewhere that Whitney wanted to experiment musically, but Clive pretty much shut it down. He wanted a marketable pop diva who could appeal to all demographics.
Yea, whitney did initially just kinda let him guide her initially.  That's why clive and kelly clarkson got into that whole big thing.  He tried to do the same shit to her but kelly absolutely wasn't going
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





Lazarus

Clive also tried to do it with  Phyllis Hyman as well.  :dead:

ssw4919

Quote from: Sl? on July 14, 2017, 02:33:56 PM
Not and never on that global superstar level.

That's like Rihanna marrying Bryson tiller.

It's just not the same wave length.

This is a lie.