R Kelly holding women hostage in a sex cult?

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Kurama

Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 20, 2017, 04:58:41 PM
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I wonder if I could reach into the depths of my soul to defend ci or Kanye if they fucked kids

:omf:

well, can u fag? :latisha:

4 fucking k

15 isn't middle school age. That's a fact. :uhh: How is that making excuses? If you're going to say something, at least state it correctly. That's all.


SouravMay

July 20, 2017, 05:18:54 PM #542 Last Edit: July 20, 2017, 05:20:58 PM by Usher has Herpes
You guys are flying off the handle. No one is doing victim shaming. It was simply stated that kiddie porn has more severe implications than consensual sex with someone simply underage. And I won't change my stance on that.

Both is illegal and you are free to deem it wrong, I personally find either disgusting but general society and culture does distinguish between young adults and actual children. That is nothing controversial to point out.
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Vonc2002

This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





SouravMay

Quote from: element on July 20, 2017, 05:18:26 PM
15 isn't middle school age. That's a fact. :uhh: How is that making excuses? If you're going to say something, at least state it correctly. That's all.
Not flipping an actual factual correction into celebrating child pornograohy. I have never.
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ssw4919

July 20, 2017, 05:20:48 PM #546 Last Edit: July 20, 2017, 05:30:19 PM by ssw4919
Quote from: element on July 20, 2017, 05:04:19 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on July 20, 2017, 05:01:09 PM
Quote from: element on July 20, 2017, 04:58:23 PM
Bitch you defend MJ. The most famous pedophile ever. Zip it.

Unlike you, I researched objectively.  Read the court transcripts and looked at the case presented.  If MJ was on a video peeing on little boys, there would be no argument from me for castrating and locking him up.

I've actually read court documents too and MJ is a pedo. :dead: No pissing video needed. His accusations were disturbing but even if I mention them you will find a way to claim that they were seeking fame and money just like the other MJ stans.


The accusations were disturbing.  It doesn't mean they were true though.  For instance, they caught the accuser in a lie on the witness stand.  They could only explain all the straight porn in MJ's possession by saying he used it to arouse the boys so he could molest them.  The boy was asked several times on the stand if the porn they had in evidence was what he was shown.  Several times, he said yes, he remembered the magazines and covers MJ showed him while at Neverland, and the ones presented in evidence were it.

And then the prosecution pointed out that was a mf'in lie since the magazines were published after the time period the boy and his family testified they were at Neverland, once they had left and didn't return.  The boy started back pedaling on the witness stand, but everyone could see he was caught in a lie and couldn't possibly have seen what he said he was shown in that porn stash.  The prosecution exposed all the family's lies and their history of scamming, and they had no credibility.

So, you don't have to tell me about the accusations because I read ALL the transcripts from the trial.  I'm not going to blindly support or defend someone without knowing the facts.



But you don't have this same energy for someone you are aware was on tape with a "15" year-old, and illegally married another 15 year-old.


You've now said no one said R Kelly's victim was 13, and I posted receipts to the contrary.  And you said he had no kiddie porn in his possession, which I also posted links to show was untrue.  Perhaps you need to research the case again.

SouravMay

Quote from: ssw4919 on July 20, 2017, 05:20:48 PM
Quote from: element on July 20, 2017, 05:04:19 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on July 20, 2017, 05:01:09 PM
Quote from: element on July 20, 2017, 04:58:23 PM
Bitch you defend MJ. The most famous pedophile ever. Zip it.

Unlike you, I researched objectively.  Read the court transcripts and looked at the case presented.  If MJ was on a video peeing on little boys, there would be no argument from me for castrating and locking him up.

I've actually read court documents too and MJ is a pedo. :dead: No pissing video needed. His accusations were disturbing but even if I mention them you will find a way to claim that they were seeking fame and money just like the other MJ stans.


The accusations were disturbing.  It doesn't mean they were true though.  For instance, they caught the accuser in a lie on the witness stand.  They could only explain all the straight porn in MJ's possession by saying he used it to arouse the boys so he could molest them.  The boy was asked several times on the stand if the porn they had in evidence was what he was shown.  Several times, he said yes, he remembered the magazines and covers MJ showed him while at Neverland, and the ones presented in evidence were it.

And then the prosecution pointed out that was a mf'in lie since the magazines were published after the time period the boy and his family testified they were at Neverland, once they had left and didn't return.  The boy started back pedaling on the witness stand, but everyone could see he was caught in a lie and couldn't possibly have seen what he said he was shown in that porn stash.  The prosecution exposed all the family's lies and their history of scamming, and they had no credibility.

So, you don't have to tell me about the accusations because I read ALL the transcripts from the trial.  I'm not going to blindly support or defend someone without knowing the facts.



But you don't have this same energy for someone you are aware was on tape with a "15" year-old, and illegally married another 15 year-old.


You've know said no one said R Kelly's victim was 13, and I posted receipts to the contrary.  And you said he had no kiddie porn in his possession, which I also posted links to show was untrue.  Perhaps you need to research the case again.
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4 fucking k

Quote from: GUCCI. on July 20, 2017, 05:07:48 PM
I don't partake in the Monica's daughter mess, but I will say ongoing jokes & crude and dark humor have absolutely no relevance to your grown ass in here defending child porn and the sexual abuse of children. 

Your "slutty" grandma getting piped down and married at 15 ain't changing nothing you offkey ass pedo.

I disagree. When ppl make jokes or have a dark humor about these type of things, it shows that they don't take these matters seriously. So why would I expect them to really give a fuck if a 15 year old is getting her back blown out by some grown nigger? We can't pick and choose here. It's a part of the reason why I never take ppl seriously if they find a kii in those pee jokes.


XXX.

Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 20, 2017, 05:13:54 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on July 20, 2017, 05:07:48 PM
I don't partake in the Monica's daughter mess, but I will say ongoing jokes & crude and dark humor have absolutely no relevance to your grown ass in here defending child porn and the sexual abuse of children. 

Your "slutty" grandma getting piped down and married at 15 ain't changing nothing you offkey ass pedo.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My grandma married at 15
Well she too is a victim of statutory rape u fckn fool. :uhh:
Ur grandfather was a sexual predator as well and that's more than likely why ur arent grossed tf out by this shit. Is pedophilia genetic?  Because.............

:kii:

OKAY!

This family curse. 

I swear I had this conversation with one of my girls last week.  We were talking about how the older generation would end up with an older man when they were much younger.  But no one ever wanted to truly classify that for what it was.  Men have been raping and sexually abusing young women for so many generations.

And since he's in here talking about "biology".  Biology also shows your brain isn't even fully developed at 14 and 15. 

But PUBERTY!

XXX.

Quote from: L0NZ. on July 20, 2017, 05:12:19 PM
Quote from: GUCCI. on July 20, 2017, 05:02:57 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 20, 2017, 05:00:56 PM
Quote from: Usher has Herpes on July 20, 2017, 04:58:49 PM
I'm crying at the entire board painting imagery of Monica's daughter being incestually abused by her father, but now giving appalled, can't believe he says children and teenagers are two different things.
Fag everyone is clear here that those are fckn jokes. U in here seriously arguing for sub genres of child pornography is tf disgusting. They need to lock yo ass up right along with this nigga

Bbhhhvbjjjnn at "sub genres"

Thank you!

Slutty! Post-Puberty! If I was in Kindergarten!

I'm disgusted!

Wheres that "how young are we talkin?" clip of Rob? ffffffffff

Thats what they sound like. Underage is fuckin underage.

Period.

Aalonso.

It was stated correctly. Someone said the girl was middle school aged. You said "15 is not middle school aged" in defense, as if that would invalidate the POINT, that the girl was underaged. SO yeah you're definitely they.

ssw4919

Quote from: Margiela. on July 20, 2017, 05:13:19 PM
Biologically once a girl gets her period she's old enough to carry a child. So in that regard I kinda agree with Malcolm but that doesn't mean it's okay. Children should be off limits to grown ass adults period. I honestly do not understand how anyone can sit up here and give excuses for R. Kelly. He's a disgusting ass nigger. He has/had more than enough money to seek help and did absolutely nothing. He needs to be locked up and torched.


:uhh:  Some girls get their periods as young as nine.  Elementary schools have sanitary napkin disposals in their restrooms.  Being able to procreate biologically has NOTHING to do with the mental capacity to engage in a sexual relationship with a grown man.

I agree though that kids are off-limits.  I'm frankly disgusting that consent laws are often under 18, but R Kelly couldn't even abide by that rule.

4 fucking k

Quote from: ssw4919 on July 20, 2017, 05:20:48 PM
Quote from: element on July 20, 2017, 05:04:19 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on July 20, 2017, 05:01:09 PM
Quote from: element on July 20, 2017, 04:58:23 PM
Bitch you defend MJ. The most famous pedophile ever. Zip it.

Unlike you, I researched objectively.  Read the court transcripts and looked at the case presented.  If MJ was on a video peeing on little boys, there would be no argument from me for castrating and locking him up.

I've actually read court documents too and MJ is a pedo. :dead: No pissing video needed. His accusations were disturbing but even if I mention them you will find a way to claim that they were seeking fame and money just like the other MJ stans.


The accusations were disturbing.  It doesn't mean they were true though.  For instance, they caught the accuser in a lie on the witness stand.  They could only explain all the straight porn in MJ's possession by saying he used it to arouse the boys so he could molest them.  The boy was asked several times on the stand if the porn they had in evidence was what he was shown.  Several times, he said yes, he remembered the magazines and covers MJ showed him while at Neverland, and the ones presented in evidence were it.

And then the prosecution pointed out that was a mf'in lie since the magazines were published after the time period the boy and his family testified they were at Neverland, once they had left and didn't return.  The boy started back pedaling on the witness stand, but everyone could see he was caught in a lie and couldn't possibly have seen what he said he was shown in that porn stash.  The prosecution exposed all the family's lies and their history of scamming, and they had no credibility.

So, you don't have to tell me about the accusations because I read ALL the transcripts from the trial.  I'm not going to blindly support or defend someone without knowing the facts.



But you don't have this same energy for someone you are aware was on tape with a "15" year-old, and illegally married another 15 year-old.


You've know said no one said R Kelly's victim was 13, and I posted receipts to the contrary.  And you said he had no kiddie porn in his possession, which I also posted links to show was untrue.  Perhaps you need to research the case again.

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I'm not going to read this essay. :dead: All I will say is that I read up on MJ. I didn't really think any thing of his case until someone sent me a link about and I read an interview and some other documents. It reminded me of how I felt when I read on Sandusky's mess. It's very similar.

Once again, in the documents regarding his case. She was said to be 15. That was based on the FBI talking to the alleged girl's families. You can post as many links you want. I go by facts and actual court documents. And regarding his raid, there wasn't any kiddie mess in his collection. It was all adult porn and the police hard turn it right over to him.


ssw4919

Quote from: Usher has Herpes on July 20, 2017, 05:18:54 PM
You guys are flying off the handle. No one is doing victim shaming. It was simply stated that kiddie porn has more severe implications than consensual sex with someone simply underage. And I won't change my stance on that.

Both is illegal and you are free to deem it wrong, I personally find either disgusting but general society and culture does distinguish between young adults and actual children. That is nothing controversial to point out.


It's not consensual if it's underage.


Legally, most states will prosecute you for a worse sentence if your victim is under a certain age (I think 12), but it's illegal and immoral regardless.  The law and general society agree on that point.   :uhh:  Didn't y'all start off talking about slutty teens?  We're "free to deem it wrong" BECAUSE IT IS WRONG.  AND DISGUSTING.