Janet Mock releases statement about breakfast club mess

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SouravMay

July 31, 2017, 02:33:14 PM #75 Last Edit: July 31, 2017, 02:41:38 PM by Usher has Herpes
Key word "decide"
B7

GRAND

July 31, 2017, 02:34:16 PM #76 Last Edit: July 31, 2017, 02:34:44 PM by LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL
Quote from: Usher has Herpes on July 31, 2017, 02:21:34 PM
Clearly you choose to physically mess/interact with the same sex and there is nothing wrong with doing so.
sexual attraction makes you gay?

Kurama

Anyways,

So a few comments:

I think the issue comes in when folks still feel like their opinion is infallible. I think that's a major issue/falsehood in general. If your opinion is rooted in denigrating, abusing, devaluing, or dehumanizing individuals or groups of people, it's a shit opinion and it needs to be checked.

There are white people out here who feel blacks are lazy, no-good, uneducated ass beings beneath them right? Do we just chuck that up as your opinion is your opinion! lolz. No, because we know that's bullshit.

I think people generally confuse opinions translating to actions/practices also. Just because you say okay I accept this, live your life doesn't mean it translates into you engaging in whatever THIS is. I think thats why so many ashy ass straight niggas still perform this willingly ignorant shit, because they feel that you have to reject everything or else it says something about what YOU do imo.


People also STILL come from this place of giving "straight" niggas the benefit of the doubt when it comes to trans women. Oh tricked! Deceived! Most these niggas are gay or bisexual and are using the same platforms to mess. Yall really think most of these trans women are getting plucked from the streets & catcalled? :dead: . People just dont allow for Black men to be more sexually expressive thats why people feel like there's deception and black men indulge in secrecy or go to extreme measures to protect their masculinity.


Ultimately if someone goes through a transitional surgery and prefers to be called/dubbed a woman then she's a fuckin woman. Now I understand why women who were born women would take issue with that. Im not trans nor am I a woman so that fight is between those groups.

Still not sure why science was brought up.


Vonc2002

Quote from: Usher has Herpes on July 31, 2017, 02:33:14 PM
Hey word "decide"
So gay men and women decide to be attracted to the same sex? Ur being dense AF :dead:
Ur about to argue this dumb ass point of deciding to engage in same sex acts but that's not the discussion in here. Why are homosexuals homosexual? Even if someone NEVER acts on it, there must be some scientific proof as to why they arent simply attracted to the opposite sex,  no? There MUST be some biological differences in heterosexual vs homosexuals, yea?
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





Vonc2002

Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 31, 2017, 02:34:16 PM
Quote from: Usher has Herpes on July 31, 2017, 02:21:34 PM
Clearly you choose to physically mess/interact with the same sex and there is nothing wrong with doing so.
sexual attraction makes you gay?
!!!!!!!!!
This fool  :dead:
This is my pass to say WHATEVER tf I wanna say about the mess she releases so I don't wanna hear SHIT! Baby mama is a mess of a song btw





SouravMay

Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 31, 2017, 02:32:57 PM
Quote from: Usher has Herpes on July 31, 2017, 02:21:34 PM
There is no need to scientifically justify homosexual behavior. 
So why is there a need to scientifically prove transgender? No one in here asked for scientific proof but u. U can't have it both ways.  Being gay should be understood but being transgendered requires some irrefutable proof? Its stupid and what he said is still valid.  U can't show scientific documentation stating the differences in a homosexual man vs a heterosexual man, chemical imbalances, etc. Yet u acknowledge it as someone's truth. So don't act like u require all this scientific explanation from a trans, it's hypocritical and silly

You can easily prove same sex attractions by checking penile erection or vaginal arousal.

You can't diagnose a person with gender dysphoria with certainty as gender is a social construct.

Sexual attraction is a biological irrefutable factuality. Being born in the wrong body is not.

Understand the difference between "prove" and "justify". You can't justify either but you can prove homosexuality to be an actual thing. Transsexuality would mean you define sexes beyond biological parameters.

Sexual identity and sexual orientation really shouldn't be conflated. There is just no analogy.
B7

SouravMay

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fedswatchin

Quote from: land of punt. on July 31, 2017, 01:51:13 PM
some oppressed people jump at opportunities to demean other groups of people.

guess it makes them feel better.

SouravMay

Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 31, 2017, 02:34:16 PM
Quote from: Usher has Herpes on July 31, 2017, 02:21:34 PM
Clearly you choose to physically mess/interact with the same sex and there is nothing wrong with doing so.
sexual attraction makes you gay?
It does not?
B7

KING BENTLEY.

July 31, 2017, 02:42:07 PM #84 Last Edit: July 31, 2017, 02:42:55 PM by ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU
Quote from: Usher has Herpes on July 31, 2017, 02:21:34 PM
There is no need to scientifically justify homosexual behavior. Clearly you choose to physically mess/interact with the same sex and there is nothing wrong with doing so. Fags and trans should take accountability and not hide behind some syndrome.

Acknowledging you are gay when you are gay is living in your truth.

Telling yourself you are a woman, when you are a man is living in delusion.
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Iono why this made me scream

But while I do see what you're chipping at,

I don't think homosexuality is some disorder
And I also don't think its a cognitive choice either.

I mean ppl choose to be celibate no matter what they like sexually. That's the action you're talking about.

If these men feel like women it totally doesn't matter either way imo, same way a phagg who is aroused by men will always be, scientific explanation or not.

But not knocking those who do want to go the scientific route

H.#.G.*.Z

fedswatchin

Quote from: Kurama on July 31, 2017, 02:35:45 PM
Anyways,

So a few comments:

I think the issue comes in when folks still feel like their opinion is infallible. I think that's a major issue/falsehood in general. If your opinion is rooted in denigrating, abusing, devaluing, or dehumanizing individuals or groups of people, it's a shit opinion and it needs to be checked.

There are white people out here who feel blacks are lazy, no-good, uneducated ass beings beneath them right? Do we just chuck that up as your opinion is your opinion! lolz. No, because we know that's bullshit.

I think people generally confuse opinions translating to actions/practices also. Just because you say okay I accept this, live your life doesn't mean it translates into you engaging in whatever THIS is. I think thats why so many ashy ass straight niggas still perform this willingly ignorant shit, because they feel that you have to reject everything or else it says something about what YOU do imo.


People also STILL come from this place of giving "straight" niggas the benefit of the doubt when it comes to trans women. Oh tricked! Deceived! Most these niggas are gay or bisexual and are using the same platforms to mess. Yall really think most of these trans women are getting plucked from the streets & catcalled? :dead: . People just dont allow for Black men to be more sexually expressive thats why people feel like there's deception and black men indulge in secrecy or go to extreme measures to protect their masculinity.


Ultimately if someone goes through a transitional surgery and prefers to be called/dubbed a woman then she's a fuckin woman. Now I understand why women who were born women would take issue with that. Im not trans nor am I a woman so that fight is between those groups.

Still not sure why science was brought up.
:oof: :oof: :oof: :oof: :oof:

fedswatchin

bottom line is, its always a hoodrat that looks to be disrespectful with their opinion. Whether someone discloses their trans identity or not before a relationship starts is another story.

GRAND

Quote from: Usher has Herpes on July 31, 2017, 02:42:04 PM
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 31, 2017, 02:34:16 PM
Quote from: Usher has Herpes on July 31, 2017, 02:21:34 PM
Clearly you choose to physically mess/interact with the same sex and there is nothing wrong with doing so.
sexual attraction makes you gay?
It does not?
a lot of fags are fags before puberty and sexual attraction even happens  :dead:

Kurama

Quote from: Usher has Herpes on July 31, 2017, 02:18:52 PM
Quote from: element on July 31, 2017, 01:41:31 PM
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 31, 2017, 01:38:08 PM
Quote from: element on July 31, 2017, 01:33:45 PM
There's more to being a woman than throwing on a wig and getting a boob job. :omf:
xnxnnxnxnxnxxbxb

I agree

But one can't explain why they feel they are a woman anymore than another can explain why they like dick in the butt

Ask any of these fags why

:omf:

It's a mental illness :omf:

And claiming another gender is different from being attracted to the same sex :omf:

!!!!!

These girls are OWT of it.

ddddss

Oh so yall like mental health now?

Homosexuality was once classified as a psychological disorder. So was women having penis envy.

:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

Eternal Bell

Quote from: Kurama on July 31, 2017, 02:35:45 PM
Anyways,

So a few comments:

I think the issue comes in when folks still feel like their opinion is infallible. I think that's a major issue/falsehood in general. If your opinion is rooted in denigrating, abusing, devaluing, or dehumanizing individuals or groups of people, it's a shit opinion and it needs to be checked.

There are white people out here who feel blacks are lazy, no-good, uneducated ass beings beneath them right? Do we just chuck that up as your opinion is your opinion! lolz. No, because we know that's bullshit.


!!!!

idk why its hard for ppl to und'stand this
im so sicka evrytime sumbody wanna call out blatant racism, homophobia & etc, they're called a SJW! omf new age! cnt tell em nuthin!


theres a difference 'tween opinions & bein blatant assholes