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Y'all have to realize that R. Kelly has a habit and like any habit, it's hard to break. It's a sin. I  think he tried to stop it but it's deeply ingrained in him. He needs help.

[Vonc2002]

TBH the drama with Rkelly kinda died down quickly, he hired Bills lawyer so unless more stuff comes out then it'll blow back up but it won't be as big as it first came out 
Herpes has a huge stigma surrounding it, even though it shouldn't but this
will follow Usher for the rest of his celebrity 
Female fans won't look at him the same ever again

Ehhhhhhhhhh iono i still think usher is in a better boat.  I don't think he's gonna miss out on opportunities because he has herpes. Music isn't selling anyway and he's past his prime so his "sex appeal" is very irrelevant.  Usher will still be invited to shit, performing, etc. Just like james Corden aired that carpool karoake in the midst of all this shit.  He couldve easily pulled that if it was viewed  as that big of a deal.  R. KELLY doesnt even get the opportunity to do things like carpool karoake. This R. KELLY shit HAS followed him around and made him a pariah within the industry. He only had his blk audience holding him down and that's wavering too. Both of their careers are on ice but usher definitely has the edge

I doubt they would have pulled that Usher Episode tbh
Rkelly rarely does televised stuff like that anyway
I don't know, even when the previous allegations came out they still invited him to perform with Gaga at the awards and his album still sold rather well

They wouldn't have pulled it, because it ain't a big deal.
R. Kelly doesnt do things like that because he isn't invited to
He was on that stage because of lady gaga. period. If lady gaga wasnt wanting him to be there he wouldn't have been invited otherwise.  R.kelly hasnt performed anywhere like that before or since
The only place r kelly is given a platform is somewhere like the soultrain awards. He literally performs like NOWHERE else
If u think that's by choice then alright

[4 fucking k]

TBH the drama with Rkelly kinda died down quickly, he hired Bills lawyer so unless more stuff comes out then it'll blow back up but it won't be as big as it first came out 
Herpes has a huge stigma surrounding it, even though it shouldn't but this
will follow Usher for the rest of his celebrity 
Female fans won't look at him the same ever again

Ehhhhhhhhhh iono i still think usher is in a better boat.  I don't think he's gonna miss out on opportunities because he has herpes. Music isn't selling anyway and he's past his prime so his "sex appeal" is very irrelevant.  Usher will still be invited to shit, performing, etc. Just like james Corden aired that carpool karoake in the midst of all this shit.  He couldve easily pulled that if it was viewed  as that big of a deal.  R. KELLY doesnt even get the opportunity to do things like carpool karoake. This R. KELLY shit HAS followed him around and made him a pariah within the industry. He only had his blk audience holding him down and that's wavering too. Both of their careers are on ice but usher definitely has the edge

I doubt they would have pulled that Usher Episode tbh
Rkelly rarely does televised stuff like that anyway
I don't know, even when the previous allegations came out they still invited him to perform with Gaga at the awards and his album still sold rather well

They wouldn't have pulled it, because it ain't a big deal.
R. Kelly doesnt do things like that because he isn't invited to
He was on that stage because of lady gaga. period. If lady gaga wasnt wanting him to be there he wouldn't have been invited otherwise.  R.kelly hasnt performed anywhere like that before or since
The only place r kelly is given a platform is somewhere like the soultrain awards. He literally performs like NOWHERE else
If u think that's by choice then alright

Kellz has filmed for the James Corden show tho.

[4 fucking k]

When it was filmed is pretty irrelevant.  They couldve pulled it and not aired it like tv stations are inclined to do if they wanna disassociate themselves.  And that's why he's in a better boat.  Usher isn't gonna not be invited to perform at the grammys because he got an STD
People don't even wanna align themselves with R. KELLY, which is why we never see him anywhere. Like, does he even do performances when he releases an album? 
The blk audience was definitely the only reason he still had some semblance of a career left.  Blk people were loyal to him because he was viewed as a staple in R&B music but that's definitely changing as well.

You're contradicting yourself. First you're saying they would've pulled it and then it's they wouldn't cause Usher didn't do anything wrong. Which is it?

And why would they pull Usher's episode when he is finally making headlines? if anything the producers are going to want to take advantage of that. Hollywood doesn't think like you or common ppl do.

ffff Kellz has worked with just about everyone and your fave had no issue partying and taking pics with him at Alexander Wang's party earlier his year. not to mention the A list parties Kellz goes to when he's in LA. But no one wants to align with him and things! Girl.... the fact that literally everyone is radio silent when he's all over the news speaks volumes to his place in the industry

And if he only had the black audience, explain how he was able to book Bonnaroo and Pitchfork? Kellz has many non-black fans. His career wouldn't have thrived the way it has with just a black audience. Please. Someone who only had the black audience is Jans after nipplegate.

[SouravMay]

R. Kelly is no dummy and does not need any white media. He stays true to BET and Soul Train, and if it organically crosses over cool, if not, not...

Even before 2002 Bert didn't stray away too much from black media. A lil VMA mess in 2005 a lil Billboard mess in 2013, but before or after he was always true to VIBE, BET, Soul Train etc.

[Vonc2002]

TBH the drama with Rkelly kinda died down quickly, he hired Bills lawyer so unless more stuff comes out then it'll blow back up but it won't be as big as it first came out 
Herpes has a huge stigma surrounding it, even though it shouldn't but this
will follow Usher for the rest of his celebrity 
Female fans won't look at him the same ever again

Ehhhhhhhhhh iono i still think usher is in a better boat.  I don't think he's gonna miss out on opportunities because he has herpes. Music isn't selling anyway and he's past his prime so his "sex appeal" is very irrelevant.  Usher will still be invited to shit, performing, etc. Just like james Corden aired that carpool karoake in the midst of all this shit.  He couldve easily pulled that if it was viewed  as that big of a deal.  R. KELLY doesnt even get the opportunity to do things like carpool karoake. This R. KELLY shit HAS followed him around and made him a pariah within the industry. He only had his blk audience holding him down and that's wavering too. Both of their careers are on ice but usher definitely has the edge

I doubt they would have pulled that Usher Episode tbh
Rkelly rarely does televised stuff like that anyway
I don't know, even when the previous allegations came out they still invited him to perform with Gaga at the awards and his album still sold rather well

They wouldn't have pulled it, because it ain't a big deal.
R. Kelly doesnt do things like that because he isn't invited to
He was on that stage because of lady gaga. period. If lady gaga wasnt wanting him to be there he wouldn't have been invited otherwise.  R.kelly hasnt performed anywhere like that before or since
The only place r kelly is given a platform is somewhere like the soultrain awards. He literally performs like NOWHERE else
If u think that's by choice then alright

Kellz has filmed for the James Corden show tho.

I wasnt specifically speaking about james corden
R. Kelly is someone who many view as the king of r&b. Why doesnt he perform at the grammys?  Why isn't he getting tributes? Why isn't he performing on billboard, American Music Awards, etc
R. Kelly is a pariah in the music industry.

[4 fucking k]

He's a legend in the industry, luv. And he hasn't performed at the Grammys since I Believe I Can Fly and that was in '98. Before his case mess. He performed at Billboard and AMAs. All through the 00's when he was actually dropping hits. He isn't performing anywhere cause he doesn't release Top 40 songs anymore.

[Vonc2002]

When it was filmed is pretty irrelevant.  They couldve pulled it and not aired it like tv stations are inclined to do if they wanna disassociate themselves.  And that's why he's in a better boat.  Usher isn't gonna not be invited to perform at the grammys because he got an STD
People don't even wanna align themselves with R. KELLY, which is why we never see him anywhere. Like, does he even do performances when he releases an album? 
The blk audience was definitely the only reason he still had some semblance of a career left.  Blk people were loyal to him because he was viewed as a staple in R&B music but that's definitely changing as well.

You're contradicting yourself. First you're saying they would've pulled it and then it's they wouldn't cause Usher didn't do anything wrong. Which is it?

How is that contradicting myself?   
If usher having herpes was really sumn people wanted to disassociate themselves from they wouldve pulled his taping of carpool karoake. It isn't. He didn't do anything wrong and that's why they didn't.  Like, what's confusing about that

[yummy]

who said herpesgate

[4 fucking k]

R. Kelly is no dummy and does not need any white media. He stays true to BET and Soul Train, and if it organically crosses over cool, if not, not...

Even before 2002 Bert didn't stray away too much from black media. A lil VMA mess in 2005 a lil Billboard mess in 2013, but before or after he was always true to VIBE, BET, Soul Train etc.

!!!! He never was all over white media outlets. He mainly only appeared on BET award shows. That's a fact. He never tried to crossover either. Usher can't say the same so he's def. feeling the heat right now.

[4 fucking k]

When it was filmed is pretty irrelevant.  They couldve pulled it and not aired it like tv stations are inclined to do if they wanna disassociate themselves.  And that's why he's in a better boat.  Usher isn't gonna not be invited to perform at the grammys because he got an STD
People don't even wanna align themselves with R. KELLY, which is why we never see him anywhere. Like, does he even do performances when he releases an album? 
The blk audience was definitely the only reason he still had some semblance of a career left.  Blk people were loyal to him because he was viewed as a staple in R&B music but that's definitely changing as well.

You're contradicting yourself. First you're saying they would've pulled it and then it's they wouldn't cause Usher didn't do anything wrong. Which is it?

How is that contradicting myself?   
If usher having herpes was really sumn people wanted to disassociate themselves from they wouldve pulled his taping of carpool karoake. It isn't. He didn't do anything wrong and that's why they didn't.  Like, what's confusing about that

You don't make sense.

Disassociate him from what? He's in the headlines right now and that's all that matters to the TV producers. We're clearly speaking about how this will hurt Usher when it comes to his shows and future releases. Like he was a legit sex symbol. This does hurt him. I'm sure the Flushs agree.

[SouravMay]

TBH the drama with Rkelly kinda died down quickly, he hired Bills lawyer so unless more stuff comes out then it'll blow back up but it won't be as big as it first came out 
Herpes has a huge stigma surrounding it, even though it shouldn't but this
will follow Usher for the rest of his celebrity 
Female fans won't look at him the same ever again

Ehhhhhhhhhh iono i still think usher is in a better boat.  I don't think he's gonna miss out on opportunities because he has herpes. Music isn't selling anyway and he's past his prime so his "sex appeal" is very irrelevant.  Usher will still be invited to shit, performing, etc. Just like james Corden aired that carpool karoake in the midst of all this shit.  He couldve easily pulled that if it was viewed  as that big of a deal.  R. KELLY doesnt even get the opportunity to do things like carpool karoake. This R. KELLY shit HAS followed him around and made him a pariah within the industry. He only had his blk audience holding him down and that's wavering too. Both of their careers are on ice but usher definitely has the edge

I doubt they would have pulled that Usher Episode tbh
Rkelly rarely does televised stuff like that anyway
I don't know, even when the previous allegations came out they still invited him to perform with Gaga at the awards and his album still sold rather well

They wouldn't have pulled it, because it ain't a big deal.
R. Kelly doesnt do things like that because he isn't invited to
He was on that stage because of lady gaga. period. If lady gaga wasnt wanting him to be there he wouldn't have been invited otherwise.  R.kelly hasnt performed anywhere like that before or since
The only place r kelly is given a platform is somewhere like the soultrain awards. He literally performs like NOWHERE else
If u think that's by choice then alright

Kellz has filmed for the James Corden show tho.

I wasnt specifically speaking about james corden
R. Kelly is someone who many view as the king of r&b. Why doesnt he perform at the grammys?  Why isn't he getting tributes? Why isn't he performing on billboard, American Music Awards, etc
R. Kelly is a pariah in the music industry.

In 2003 a year after the tape leaked, he performed and won the most Awards of that fckn night.



At this point is, he is at Prince, AC/DC, Garth Brooks legendary status and above these shows. The fuck he looks like performing next to Selena Gomez?

What the hell do you want?

All through the 2010's he was nominated for MULTIPLE Grammys, Billboard Awards you name it

[SouravMay]

When this aired on CNN he touched millions of people

[Vonc2002]

When it was filmed is pretty irrelevant.  They couldve pulled it and not aired it like tv stations are inclined to do if they wanna disassociate themselves.  And that's why he's in a better boat.  Usher isn't gonna not be invited to perform at the grammys because he got an STD
People don't even wanna align themselves with R. KELLY, which is why we never see him anywhere. Like, does he even do performances when he releases an album? 
The blk audience was definitely the only reason he still had some semblance of a career left.  Blk people were loyal to him because he was viewed as a staple in R&B music but that's definitely changing as well.

You're contradicting yourself. First you're saying they would've pulled it and then it's they wouldn't cause Usher didn't do anything wrong. Which is it?

How is that contradicting myself?   
If usher having herpes was really sumn people wanted to disassociate themselves from they wouldve pulled his taping of carpool karoake. It isn't. He didn't do anything wrong and that's why they didn't.  Like, what's confusing about that

You don't make sense.

Disassociate him from what? He's in the headlines right now and that's all that matters to the TV producers. We're clearly speaking about how this will hurt Usher when it comes to his shows and future releases. Like he was a legit sex symbol. This does hurt him. I'm sure the Flushs agree.

Disassociate him? WHAT
Yea, lets just chalk it up to we don't agree. U feel like usher is more hurt and i feel like r. Kelly is over. We can just agree to disagree

[SouravMay]

Lol Bert will stay with Sony, will put out other albums, more Trapped In The Closet, continue producing for artists and gain more Billboard R&B #1's, selling out arenas.



As for Flush, he will forever be known as USHERPES... no more hits, no more gigs,