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[Herb.]

Hair isn't much different from the skin IMO.
Keep it simple, keep it moisturized.

[GYNandTONIC]

White women with curls straighten their hair all the time. Is their hair no longer natural?

Heat is a natural source of energy. When you get into chemical processes and/or adding a bunch of gunk to get a defined curl then that's unnatural.

Some of the curls that natural girls claim is more processed in my opinion, because they use half bottle of chemical conditioners and grease (ew) to claim a "natural curl". Hair looking all wet! So using some heat IMO is a bit more natural.

Processing isn't a matter of "opinion", it's black and white.

Heat has been proven to cause damage to hair. Many women have to chop their hair off from using it in excess. Or relaxing their hair in excess. Not for properly moisturizing their hair and quenching its natural thirst regularly.

Thick, curly hair craves moisture and loves conditioner. It eats it up. Curly hair has a tougher time receiving moisture than white people's straighter hair. People like me with fine, curly hair like mine can barely go two days without "co-washing" their hair. Since the hair spirals, and curls so much, it's tougher for moisture from get from the root all the way to tip. Left without co-washing for two or three days, you'll be walking around with a dry curly nest on your head.

Also, taking care of your hair doesn't mean loading it with bad stuff. Using natural products such as Shea Moisture (which is what I always recommend) is HEALTHY for your hair. It's simple.

And there's no such thing as creating a curl pattern. It is determined by genes. Conditioner and styling products are there only to bring it out. Furthermore, any person with curly hair who is putting loads of GREASE into their hair isn't wise. Fine, curly hair is easily weighed down. Kinkier hair is better suited for heavy grease usage. But it still won't "create" a curl pattern. lol.

Putting a tub of conditioner on type 4 kinky hair is not going to magically create spirals and corkscrew curls. If it did there'd be no need for perms and texturizers. And not even a texturizer will leave someone with a true curl or spiral. Especially if the hair is longer. It usually looks limp and dead. But oil is necessary. It is used to SEAL the hair. And is part of LOC method. But only a VERY SMALL amount should be used. A PINCH.

However, anyone with curly hair should be conditioning their hair at LEAST twice a week. I'm not big on styling products. I use a paraben free, silicone free leave in conditioner, a PINCH of gel (literally dime sized since it can dry ur hair) and keep it moving. Keeping things simple >>>>

References:
"How to Care for Kinky Curly or Mixed Hair"
http://www.bearfruithair.com/kinky-curly-hair/

"LOC Method: The routine every curly girl should know"
http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlreading/kinky-hair-type-4a/loc-method-the-routine-every-curly-should-know/

Well I was pretty specific when I said "Chemical" process which heat is not. Heat is a natural process.

I didnt say conditioners CREATE a curl pattern I said they use it to define it. Using chemical based conditioners to acheive a defined patterned that if it wasnt used wouldnt look the same. I see girls with natural hair that ultimately looks like jerri curl. Shea butter is one thing but using Martha magic curl cream w/ hydronated proentynolyun isnt natural imo. Its chemical

Also you can double strand twist type 4 hair with a tube of conditioner and achieve a very natural looking curl pattern that isnt natural at all. A bit of setting lotion and rods will achieve a even smaller faux curl pattern so it can be manipulated.

[Herb.]

Heat is not natural when it's coming from an electric hot comb.
Which is plugged into an electric outlet.

With your logic, a light bulb would be considered a source of "natural lighting".

lol....

[Herb.]

But I agree on the heavy chemicals......
And the faux look it has, there is definitely a difference between healthy springy coils and a "jerry curl".

And I do agree that natural type 4 girls can do twist-outs and stuff to give a more curly appearance.

It's so much work though.

I wish more people would just embrace what they have.
Sometimes I wish my hair had more volume and was more "poofy". But it doesn't do that.
It lays so flat sometimes.

I'm over here wishing I had all that volume that other types have naturally and they can't appreciate it.
sdsdsd

watch this: I SWEAR this had me cracking up.
especially the DIFFUSER part. sndsndnsnsnsnsnnsnsnsns
I have a diffuser I purchased , put it to my hair and was like OMFG PUFF UP PLEASE!!!  



it didn't do SHIT for me. and i was so SURE it would. literally ran out to Walmart once I found how to use it...at 1am sdsdsd brought it home and tried it right away

and the SCALP part of the video. fine curly hair is so fine, once ur hair is wet, ur scalp shows a bit. and some people can mistake it for BALDING.

once it dries it's all good though. I'm just learning to work with what I have. imma try to sell this diffuser. 

[GYNandTONIC]

Heat is not natural when it's coming from an electric hot comb.
Which is plugged into an electric outlet.

With your logic, a light bulb would be considered a source of "natural lighting".

lol....

You could use a comb over open fire ( like they use to do).

Natural is defined by the state of the hair not the device one uses. Cause if thats the case... Extracted oils are made by machines (that use heat) and put into man made bottles.

Chemicals = Unnatural
God given sources (fire/heat) = Natural

If you put vegetables in a microwave it's not considered unnatural/processed just cooked.

[Young]

Wtf

[GYNandTONIC]

Oh and Im listening to "Lucifer" right now.

Thats my shit!!!!!!!! Lol

[Herb.]

Heat is not natural when it's coming from an electric hot comb.
Which is plugged into an electric outlet.

With your logic, a light bulb would be considered a source of "natural lighting".

lol....

You could use a comb over open fire ( like they use to do).

Natural is defined by the state of the hair not the device one uses. Cause if thats the case... Extracted oils are made by machines (that use heat) and put into man made bottles.

Chemicals = Unnatural
God given sources (fire/heat) = Natural

If you put vegetables in a microwave it's not considered unnatural/processed just cooked.

I can agree that using unnatural products that includes a bunch of activators and mess......is definitely just as harmful as putting the pits of hell onto your strands.

BUt know that HEAT can damage your hair.
as "natural" as it is, no one who knows hair will advise someone to consistently apply heat to their hair.

this is what that beautiful natural heat can do to hair:




Hair does NOT need heat.
It needs oil. It needs moisture. It does NOT need heat!!!!!

[Herb.]

Oh and Im listening to "Lucifer" right now.

Thats my shit!!!!!!!! Lol

[yummy]

But I agree on the heavy chemicals......
And the faux look it has, there is definitely a difference between healthy springy coils and a "jerry curl".

And I do agree that natural type 4 girls can do twist-outs and stuff to give a more curly appearance.

It's so much work though.

I wish more people would just embrace what they have.
Sometimes I wish my hair had more volume and was more "poofy". But it doesn't do that.
It lays so flat sometimes.

I'm over here wishing I had all that volume that other types have naturally and they can't appreciate it.
sdsdsd

watch this: I SWEAR this had me cracking up.
especially the DIFFUSER part. sndsndnsnsnsnsnnsnsnsns
I have a diffuser I purchased , put it to my hair and was like OMFG PUFF UP PLEASE!!!  



it didn't do SHIT for me. and i was so SURE it would. literally ran out to Walmart once I found how to use it...at 1am sdsdsd brought it home and tried it right away

and the SCALP part of the video. fine curly hair is so fine, once ur hair is wet, ur scalp shows a bit. and some people can mistake it for BALDING.

once it dries it's all good though. I'm just learning to work with what I have. imma try to sell this diffuser. 

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[Kurama]

it looks like she;s using a hot comb....i wouldn't call it all natural

No chemicals

Natural to me

[Herb.]

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lnkbubsssss

[Young]

it looks like she;s using a hot comb....i wouldn't call it all natural

No chemicals

Natural to me

!!


I see we all have different definitions of it

But I do agree that excess heating and flat ironing can be harmful. But anything in excess isn't good.