Question for those of us here that believe in God...

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LOONA.

Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 04, 2018, 06:59:06 PM
Quote from: emzen on December 04, 2018, 06:37:45 PM
So because protoniggers apparently did evil now their innocent ancestors are born into punishment and will have to suffer due to things entirely out of their control?

That's even worse! :dead:

And this whole notion that we have to endure a lifetime of collective suffering and pain to get some reward after its all said and done sounds very sadistic.

Sorry girls, but your God sounds a mess.

:udontlookok:

And the fact that the "reward" is possibly eternal damnation     

:sevynstreeter:

Hatsumomo

Black people aren't the only ones who've been treated bad throughout the centuries .. Jews were treated bad, kids are treated bad, women are treated bad, elderly folks ect regardless of race .. And one sin is no greater than the next .. That's like when people equate being gay as the ultimate sin.. But then say"  hey it's OKAY if you go and fornicate and have straight sex with as many women as you want! " When if you follow the bible and scripture, both acts are classified as sinful amongst many others in the bible, including murder. Its all in the same boat.  And one thing about it is that we all will have to pay and answer for our actions and what we do ..in this lifetime or the next. And you better believe that whomever oppressed murdered, or tortured any black person out of hate will get exactly what's coming to them, even in death or resurrection .  its a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God..gives me the chills tbh.. and one thing I love about him is that he is fair and all his ways are justice .. No amount of time that has gone by really means anything to him, because the way we perceive time, as literal specks of dust in this vast universe, is faaaaar from how he perceives time. He is simply just giving mankind time to fix our ways before its too late. And some( if not most) people will never change ..which is why he's going to have to kill them. And it's nothing for him to bring back the dead . even if there is no body to be found .. And he will .. He's a supernatural being .. But Poppa got a point to prove right now to the Devil who made some very serious accusations concerning how this world should be ruled and by whom.  But it'll all be over soon. And all wicked people will be eradicated. just my opinionata.


L0NZ.

Quote from: 12 Nights of Molesting Flopped on December 04, 2018, 05:02:05 PM
I don?t think God would look at it like that.
what is considered ?bad? to the creator of the universe?
We?re all so minuscule in the grand scheme of things

So prayer is pointless huh


Navyman

Quote from: Bloody Tears on December 04, 2018, 09:49:48 PM
Black people aren't the only ones who've been treated bad throughout the centuries .. Jews were treated bad, kids are treated bad, women are treated bad, elderly folks ect regardless of race .. And one sin is no greater than the next .. That's like when people equate being gay as the ultimate sin.. But then say"  hey it's OKAY if you go and fornicate and have straight sex with as many women as you want! " When if you follow the bible and scripture, both acts are classified as sinful amongst many others in the bible, including murder. Its all in the same boat.  And one thing about it is that we all will have to pay and answer for our actions and what we do ..in this lifetime or the next. And you better believe that whomever oppressed murdered, or tortured any black person out of hate will get exactly what's coming to them, even in death or resurrection .  its a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God..gives me the chills tbh.. and one thing I love about him is that he is fair and all his ways are justice .. No amount of time that has gone by really means anything to him, because the way we perceive time, as literal specks of dust in this vast universe, is faaaaar from how he perceives time. He is simply just giving mankind time to fix our ways before its too late. And some( if not most) people will never change ..which is why he's going to have to kill them. And it's nothing for him to bring back the dead . even if there is no body to be found .. And he will .. He's a supernatural being .. But Poppa got a point to prove right now to the Devil who made some very serious accusations concerning how this world should be ruled and by whom.  But it'll all be over soon. And all wicked people will be eradicated. just my opinionata.
So we gonna die if we don't change our gay ways?
  :omgwatshappening:

BAPHOMET.

Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 04, 2018, 06:59:06 PM
Quote from: emzen on December 04, 2018, 06:37:45 PM
So because protoniggers apparently did evil now their innocent ancestors are born into punishment and will have to suffer due to things entirely out of their control?

That's even worse! :dead:

And this whole notion that we have to endure a lifetime of collective suffering and pain to get some reward after its all said and done sounds very sadistic.

Sorry girls, but your God sounds a mess.

:udontlookok:
:omgwatshappening:


BAPHOMET.

as long as no Christian said anything dis4respectful in here im going to reserve my comments


L0NZ.

Quote from: SadiddyAzzNoLimitPlatinumCard on December 04, 2018, 07:04:32 PM
Well on top of being the chosen people they are also a very stiffnecked people
And very disobedient to god as well and for that there is a wrath
Its myth that god doesnt punish and that he just sings love an accepts everything
Just like a parent loves their child and needs to chastise them at times its the same thing
Gods version of that punishment may not be fathomable in our earthly limitations and perspectives
But nevertheless he is a fair and just god

nnnn. How is that fair and just.

You?re talking about ?a people? being disobedient, but these are individuals suffering.

make it make sense


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Quote from: L0NZ. on December 04, 2018, 10:14:53 PM
Quote from: SadiddyAzzNoLimitPlatinumCard on December 04, 2018, 07:04:32 PM
Well on top of being the chosen people they are also a very stiffnecked people
And very disobedient to god as well and for that there is a wrath
Its myth that god doesnt punish and that he just sings love an accepts everything
Just like a parent loves their child and needs to chastise them at times its the same thing
Gods version of that punishment may not be fathomable in our earthly limitations and perspectives
But nevertheless he is a fair and just god

nnnn. How is that fair and just.

You?re talking about ?a people? being disobedient, but these are individuals suffering.

make it make sense

How can it make sense when there isn't an ounce of logic involve. Only "faith" :usuresis:.

LOONA.

Quote from: Baph Marvel. on December 04, 2018, 10:09:02 PM
as long as no Christian said anything dis4respectful in here im going to reserve my comments

Fuck them     

L0NZ.

Quote from: Xavier on December 04, 2018, 06:11:37 PM
Quote from: jtwoeleven on December 04, 2018, 06:01:26 PM
Human depravity is an experience that?s not really restricted to black people, so when you say all blacks doing badly, are you speaking of all blacks collectively, or their condition relative to all non-blacks??

If the world truly descended into a fallen state, I can?t see any particular group being singled out. An objectively good creation like human beings having complete autonomy means that people can choose whether to act morally or immorally, which can easily be to the detriment of blacks. If that?s the case, then all would have to answer for breaking the objective moral law.

Quote from: jtwoeleven on December 04, 2018, 06:04:43 PM
This is an awesome excellent question though. The problem of evil is a very compelling argument. It?s a reality that even many believers have trouble explaining, but it?s a universal human experience.

Now THIS is an excellent point too. Maybe it isn't just black people suffering, but in fact, humans in general. We hear all about different races/demographics of people having being ostracized, beaten or even killed all because of something minor or really no issue at all. Maybe God is punishing EVERYONE.

Why does it have to be punishment by a God though. What if it?s just a world full of organisms with highly developed brains running amuck, using their intelligence and varied sensibilities to punish EACH OTHER. Periodt.


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L0NZ.

December 04, 2018, 10:25:56 PM #57 Last Edit: December 04, 2018, 10:26:45 PM by L0NZ.
It?s like we want to be so special. Our brains can?t, or don?t want to fathom that one day it?s CAPUT!

Just like that deer mess on the side of the road. You?re different because your species has higher intelligence?

We want to believe that we won?t have to die. So God! Afterlife! Eternity! And it?s that very intelligence that put that all together.


But gir.


jtwoeleven

Quote from: LOONA. on December 04, 2018, 09:26:57 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 04, 2018, 06:59:06 PM
Quote from: emzen on December 04, 2018, 06:37:45 PM
So because protoniggers apparently did evil now their innocent ancestors are born into punishment and will have to suffer due to things entirely out of their control?

That's even worse! :dead:

And this whole notion that we have to endure a lifetime of collective suffering and pain to get some reward after its all said and done sounds very sadistic.

Sorry girls, but your God sounds a mess.

:udontlookok:

And the fact that the "reward" is possibly eternal damnation     

:sevynstreeter:

Ah. The infinite punishment for finite actions. On the surface, that seems highly unfair and unreasonable. But that objection only works if you?re using a higher moral standard. It stands to reason that if one desires to live their finite life separate from God, then he shouldn?t be able to force anyone to spend their infinite life with him against their will.

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Quote from: L0NZ. on December 04, 2018, 10:14:53 PM
Quote from: SadiddyAzzNoLimitPlatinumCard on December 04, 2018, 07:04:32 PM
Well on top of being the chosen people they are also a very stiffnecked people
And very disobedient to god as well and for that there is a wrath
Its myth that god doesnt punish and that he just sings love an accepts everything
Just like a parent loves their child and needs to chastise them at times its the same thing
Gods version of that punishment may not be fathomable in our earthly limitations and perspectives
But nevertheless he is a fair and just god

nnnn. How is that fair and just.

You?re talking about ?a people? being disobedient, but these are individuals suffering.

make it make sense

Everyone has free will to choose their path  whether thats self destruction  or the destruction of others or following the commandments as much as they can
God does not separate one sin from the other
There are consequences for actions

You cant fit this into a innocent laquan got shot why god narrative and im not trying to

As i stated gods punishment may not be what we can imagine in our perview

Just as ones can pave the way for others later they can also create a karma that passes on too

The fairness lies in the fact that we are all starting with the same disposition  and we choose our path accordingly




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