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Tamar definitely overreacted to them hopping on stage for a few seconds. I don't see what the big deal was. It's not like they snatched her mike and started singing. They just went on stage to dance a little. So her reacting negatively tot hat, I don't see the problem.

And yes, Trina was the one who was dead set on that not being a good idea and saying they shouldnt do it cause its gonna cause some problems with Tamar. Now that the problems arise, all of a sudden she feels some kind of way. Like wtf?

[BigDawg]

Tamar has nothing that anybody should be jealous of tbqfh

1) A seemingly faithful husband (see Trina)
2) A husband with a job (see Towanda)
3) 2 solo albums and one on the way (see Trina and Towanda)
4) BET and Soul Train Awards (see everyone besides Toni)
5) Coinage (see everyone)

And the list can continue. On the contrary, what does Trina, Traci and Towanda have that Tamar would be jealous of? Tamar ain't no huge superstar but people do tend to downplay her accomplishments.

C


1. He beats her.
2. He's repulsive to look at and he cant see his own penis. So he's not doing the most important job.
3. 2 flop albums and a 3rd on the way
4. 
5. (see: Vince)

Oh but I forgot to add something. Tamar got her own spin off show on WeTV. I distinctly remember the sisters (except Toni) being very salty about that and even saying they wont appear on her show. Only Toni did. Let's face it. If u don't like someone, and they just seem to be winning and they're the breakout star of the show, you may not be 'jealous' all the damn time, but there are moments when you are gonna feel some kind of way.

But the thing with Tamar's spinoff is that she let it be known that she didnt want to work with her sister's. So on the heels of that, the other's decided not to participate on the spin off.

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It must really be some shit going on because that Bitch broke down and they ALL collectively gave her
I think this "jealous" thing is such a cop out.  How are ALL of them jealous of her and to the point where she is breaking down in front of them and none of them believe it's genuine?  Nah it's deeper than "jealous". I DIED when she was in shambles and they all 

Right because my mom and her sisters can argue, fight etc but when one of them is hurting them white bitches come together and embrace and it's back to normal for a few months weeks they literally sat there and gave a

Even Toni lol

That bitch was putting on a show for TD Jakes. I saw right through it.

[Young]

The idea was fucking messy.

First off if I was Tamar I would feel like them bitches don't take me or my career seriously. It's a SHOW. They would NEVER do that to Toni.
It just shows how they view Tamar tbh. Trina knew it wasn't a good idea and Tamar even SAID before the show I don't want to see yawl because I'll be nervous.

This was around the time Towanda and Tamar we're going AT it, so I find it hard to believe Towanda had good intentions doing so, especially when I know for a fact if it was Toni's show it would have never happened.
U can show support by bringing flowers on stage at the end or something, not trying to secretly steal her shine.

It was messy. And regardless if she cussed them out or not, that was a year ago, move ON. The way Tamar broke down really showed how affected she was by everything. So for them to just completely pay her dust like that was DISGUSTING

[BigDawg]

I think deep down the other sisters know that Tamar may be willing to chalk it up to nothing, but next week it will just be more of the same mess with Tamar. Which is probably why they were stone faced when she was crying.

[Zankou.]

The idea was fucking messy.

First off if I was Tamar I would feel like them bitches don't take me or my career seriously. It's a SHOW. They would NEVER do that to Toni.
It just shows how they view Tamar tbh. Trina knew it wasn't a good idea and Tamar even SAID before the show I don't want to see yawl because I'll be nervous.

This was around the time Towanda and Tamar we're going AT it, so I find it hard to believe Towanda had good intentions doing so, especially when I know for a fact if it was Toni's show it would have never happened.
U can show support by bringing flowers on stage at the end or something, not trying to secretly steal her shine.

It was messy. And regardless if she cussed them out or not, that was a year ago, move ON. The way Tamar broke down really showed how affected she was by everything. So for them to just completely pay her dust like that was DISGUSTING

I actually agree with this..

Towanda is noticeably BOTHERED by Tamar

[Young]

Do I think Tamar was being extra and not being truthful about the entire night? Yes

But now it's pointless to even harp on the whole thing.
They expect an apology from her for throwing them out but never apologized for ruining her set.

It's very one sided.
Even earlier in the episode when toni and Tamar were debating they all jumped on Tamar in favor of Toni. The whole dynamic is a mess

[∧ ∨ ∩ ∪]

Tamar has nothing that anybody should be jealous of tbqfh

1) A seemingly faithful husband (see Trina)
2) A husband with a job (see Towanda)
3) 2 solo albums and one on the way (see Trina and Towanda)
4) BET and Soul Train Awards (see everyone besides Toni)
5) Coinage (see everyone)

And the list can continue. On the contrary, what does Trina, Traci and Towanda have that Tamar would be jealous of? Tamar ain't no huge superstar but people do tend to downplay her accomplishments.

C


1. He beats her.
2. He's repulsive to look at and he cant see his own penis. So he's not doing the most important job.
3. 2 flop albums and a 3rd on the way
4. 
5. (see: Vince)

Oh but I forgot to add something. Tamar got her own spin off show on WeTV. I distinctly remember the sisters (except Toni) being very salty about that and even saying they wont appear on her show. Only Toni did. Let's face it. If u don't like someone, and they just seem to be winning and they're the breakout star of the show, you may not be 'jealous' all the damn time, but there are moments when you are gonna feel some kind of way.

But the thing with Tamar's spinoff is that she let it be known that she didnt want to work with her sister's. So on the heels of that, the other's decided not to participate on the spin off.

!!!!!!

People talk so much shit about Kim K but that bitch gave her family careers. Even in the very beginning when she was getting her feet wet she opened up doors. Tamar and Vince is very only about Tamar. No reason why the sisters don't have business dealings outside of the show making them coins. None what so ever. I mean Toni has those bitches in her show, gave them jobs on her team but what has Tamar done? If anything, like Trina said Tamar alienated herself. That's why she has no true success and it's showing this current era. The devil's gifts can only last but so long before White Jesus began to work.

In Atheist terms. Karma is a birch *in my Aunt Bertha voice*

[ssw4919]

They wouldn't do it to Toni.  She's a perfectionist.  Also, it was Towanda's idea and Trina KNEW it wouldn't go over well.  Plus, you coming to support me in the audience is different from showing up to get a little spotlight for yourself.  Tamar has invited Trina to sing with her, so I don't see why they couldn't have just gotten the green light for Tamar and done a real performance with her.

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Do I think Tamar was being extra and not being truthful about the entire night? Yes

But now it's pointless to even harp on the whole thing.
They expect an apology from her for throwing them out but never apologized for ruining her set.

It's very one sided.
Even earlier in the episode when toni and Tamar were debating they all jumped on Tamar in favor of Toni. The whole dynamic is a mess

Blah. They apologized, well Trina did when Tamar was saying Toni didn't pave the way for her.

[ssw4919]

Towanda and Trina not making coins is on them.  Tamar came to them with the reality show idea.  The rest is up to you.  Tamar gave Trina a platform on her own CD and shared the stage with her.  If EVERYONE is paying your dance music dust but you insist, that's on you.    Trina could do something if she sang the right genre.

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and I remember Toni saying that they ALL did that to her during one of her shows back in the day so save the BS.

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Towanda and Trina not making coins is on them.  Tamar came to them with the reality show idea.  The rest is up to you.  Tamar gave Trina a platform on her own CD and shared the stage with her.  If EVERYONE is paying your dance music dust but you insist, that's on you.    Trina could do something if she sang the right genre.

That's why Black families are so unsuccessful because of that mentality.

[Young]

Tamar does not have to feel obligated to make them a part of HER success.
They all have a platform and can make business moves just like she has.
They're just kinda corny and don't have solo star power.

And they know that. I remember the first two seasons she won "fan favorite" at the reunion. They were all bothered.

When they work together on a business front they fight a lot.
So I don't think them working together is smart. They couldn't even tribute Toni that time they tried to get a set together for her.

Tamar didn't alienate herself, she's BOOKED.
And that's the true tea. They can't hate her for that. Her not knowing about certain events or Trina's divorce for example just shows they aren't okay with her being busy and booked. They leave her out of shit.
And that's what she was talking about when she broke down.

She can't help she's living her dream now.

[Young]

Tamar literally said I don't want to see you I'll be nervous.
Why hop the fuck on stage unannounced and then kii as you trot off.
The intentions weren't pure. Towanda was being messy.
Trina knew it would be a mess