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[Stewie]

yes i remember being one of the people looking at you like but im finally seeing the light
it just goes to show how fucked up we are...the fact that even now  i think chickens, pigs, cows deserve to live more than say, an insect....

but i still kinda feel like with INSECTS/rats specifically, its different....and they invade out personal space.....they're sneaky, tryna get all in your food and contaminate it, crawl over you when you're sleeping....like why cant you stay in he fucking tree or flowers or wherever you're from....why are you in my house creeping me out and making me feel uncomfortable?

Wait

Because I'm sure you're living in a building that destroyed the homes of millions of insects and some wild life

im sure I am.....and I could go perch in a tent in a jungle somewhere and feel good that some animals habitat wasn't destroyed just so i can have an apartment...

its not easy because of the way we;re used to living....just like it is NOT easy for people to just become vegan after a lifetime of being told by doctors to drink milk, eat eggs, cheese, meat and all this other disgusting, toxic animal junk that nature did NOT intend for human beings to consume

[Stewie]

Are you comparing black people to animals?

im comparing human beings to animals

like what makes us so special? because we're mentally more advanced?

there's a lot of amazing things animals can do that humans cant

[Stewie]

and lemme take the intelligence of a snake mess back a bit

because sometimes we may see things and ASSUME its a threat when it isn't.
whether its one of us seeing a snake...or a white womuh seeing a tall black man in the streets at night.
so when it comes to these instincts we're really no more well equipped than animals. we base a lot of our actions off of very little evidence and logic.

!!!!
humans are exactly like animals in that sense

[BAPHOMET.]

 

[Herb.]

now they're gonna think ur crazy Jacob LOLLLLLLLLL

but hold strong to ur beliefs. we're somehow taught to label anyone who challenges our sense of normality as "crazy". so its understandable why u originally did that to me. and its why I do not get upset. but its amazing that you came to the same conclusions on ur own. proud of you.

I'm not perfect and I am sure there are many things that I do which are inconsiderate to nature. but I have to begin holding myself accountable more often.

[Bentley!]

Wait... didn't the old board keep getting reported repeatedly by some activist group?

and now... Jacob is Mrs. Peta

Jacob? hun?

[Stewie]

now they're gonna think ur crazy Jacob LOLLLLLLLLL

but hold strong to ur beliefs. we're somehow taught to label anyone who challenges our sense of normality as "crazy". so its understandable why u originally did that to me. and its why I do not get upset. but its amazing that you came to the same conclusions on ur own. proud of you.

I'm not perfect and I am sure there are many things that I do which are inconsiderate to nature. but I have to begin holding myself accountable more often.

!!! thats the thing.....its like we've been so manipulated and brainwashed we cant even think for ourselves or follow our own instincts anymore.....

i like that you're AWARE of what we're doing and how it affects nature and also our physical and mental health

[Stewie]

Wait... didn't the old board keep getting reported repeatedly by some activist group?

and now... Jacob is Mrs. Peta

Jacob? hun?

nnnnnn

i aint a motherfucking activist

[Miranda]

Why do animals kill eachother and it's ok?

[Herb.]

now they're gonna think ur crazy Jacob LOLLLLLLLLL

but hold strong to ur beliefs. we're somehow taught to label anyone who challenges our sense of normality as "crazy". so its understandable why u originally did that to me. and its why I do not get upset. but its amazing that you came to the same conclusions on ur own. proud of you.

I'm not perfect and I am sure there are many things that I do which are inconsiderate to nature. but I have to begin holding myself accountable more often.

!!! thats the thing.....its like we've been so manipulated and brainwashed we cant even think for ourselves or follow our own instincts anymore.....

i like that you're AWARE of what we're doing and how it affects nature and also our physical and mental health

Awareness is not limited to black issues.

People ask me about the deer/buck on my chain all the time. I align with the fact that he is strong, but still hunted at the same time. I've always had a very strong connection with animals, and its weird because the more I learn about Native belief and culture, the more I see myself in natural alignment with it, even back before when I could give two fucks about heritage or history. I always had a heart for nature.

And there's still more I could to do to be a better person and to be more aware of my behavior and how it affects not only humans around me, but everything around me. We accuse so many people of playing God when it comes to something as comparatively minuscule as judging our sexual preference, but we'll turn around and kill a living being 5 minutes later with no logical reason for doing so.

I know I'm going on a rant at this point so I'll just shut up.  But congratulations Jacob. Lately you've been showing me there's a human on the other side of that screen, not a weird character they try to make you out to be.

[Herb.]

Why do animals kill eachother and it's ok?

Animals are not nearly as intelligent as we are.
They do not have a sense of logic, or understanding. As you stated yourself, they are primarily instinctive creatures. As a species who is very well equipped to evaluate decisions and think things through, it is our responsibility to be aware of our actions and take responsibility for our wrongdoings. But that'll never be truly promoted , especially not in this country. It's all about fucking money.

[Admin]

Herb and Stewie, you make good points. I'm stanning right now.

[Herb.]

Herb and Stewie, you make good points. I'm stanning right now.

[Miranda]

Why do animals kill eachother and it's ok?

Animals are not nearly as intelligent as we are.
They do not have a sense of logic, or understanding. As you stated yourself, they are primarily instinctive creatures. As a species who is very well equipped to evaluate decisions and think things through, it is our responsibility to be aware of our actions and take responsibility for our wrongdoings. But that'll never be truly promoted , especially not in this country. It's all about fucking money.

And that's the gotcha gotcha. Either we are equal (intelligent, self-determined beings) and therefore shouldn't dominate, kill or eat eachother. Or we acknowledge that animals simply cannot be compared to our complex and highly conscious existence and therefore do not require the same rights.

Can't really go with both.

[Admin]

Why do animals kill eachother and it's ok?

Animals are not nearly as intelligent as we are.
They do not have a sense of logic, or understanding. As you stated yourself, they are primarily instinctive creatures. As a species who is very well equipped to evaluate decisions and think things through, it is our responsibility to be aware of our actions and take responsibility for our wrongdoings. But that'll never be truly promoted , especially not in this country. It's all about fucking money.

!!
Thank you! I tried to explain this to a friend and these were the words I missed during the debate.