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[RAY7]

On a site that can be edited by fans

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Then what's the point of even mentioning a site like Wikipedia in this convo? Ray... plea'

because if his fans are sooooo in love with his vocals
They would have written more than 2 sentences
Duh

This logic 

is pristine that's why you have no rebuttal

Not it's not What exactly does Wikipedia have to do with his vocals being praised? Nothing.

its edited by fans

And? So if a fan decided to edit and add more about his vocals then what?

it would kinda show that his fans care about his voice
They wrote a lot about his songwriting

This logic doesn't make sense to me because if you go on Flush's page or sTank's there's not even a sentence about their shitty vocals

From Usher's

Usher has a leggero tenor vocal range.[101][102] When speaking of Usher's vocal range, Rick Juzwiak speaks "his vocal range is even more impressive than his emotional one" with emphasis on his falsetto being "something that sounds as natural as a speaking voice...he's the picture of grace against shrieking synths". Juzwiak emphasizes the singer's expressiveness by commenting "his emotional range is vast enough to sell tenderness, lechery and wistfulness within minutes of each other'.[103]

Looks like a sentence to me

[tigernathan]

I mean it's been said especially about Usher

and R Kelly is wailing loud as hell in that clip and sounding foolish
and very much similar to most of his music
another example I just though of is 3-way phone call
him and Kelly were kinda drowning out Kim Burrell at the end because they are so loud. It's on the Happy People/ U Saved Me album
which I listened to before

You really are talking about the entire genre of country like you've listened to every album by every artist, you haven't
And it doesn't matter if the vocals are over the top
you cannot dictate why other ppl buy music

No one says that about Flush'. Stop.

You're always bringing up that one damn song Kim Burrell wasn't even singing on that song. They're literally having a convo. Tears. I hate Kim's voice btw. Vibrator sounding self.

Blah, fucking blah. You're just trying to be difficult now. Listen to Country music then get back to me.

plenty of ppl have praised Usher's voice
specifically the Grammy committee
Kim was singing on that song, they all were and at the end Robert and Kelly keep wailing "SAVE ME! Save me! SAVE ME!"
I reference the song because I love Kim's runs on it

I clearly have listened to Country music
I have listed multiple singers who are country and sing very well
and they have huge fan bases who love their vocals
you can't prove they don't PERIOD
Which makes your spiel about R&B and Country void

v

Nah, they don't.
and 'Bert has been nominated for many vocal performances (more than other categories) Grammys but you think he can't sing

Kim wasn't singing on that shit. She was just talking.
He was "wailing" that because that's what the song is fucking about. Do you pay attention or nah? No you don't.

You keep proving my point. You already know that the vast majority don't care for vocals so you're trying to argue that what I'm saying is wrong because their are Country singers who can sing Read what I wrote again until you understand it.

yes they do
and Bert has been NOMINATED but he keeps LOSING every year
So clearly he isn't that great
Kim IS singing on the song they are all singing on the song
and the song is not all about getting saved that's just a prayer at the end
that does NOT have to yelled. Clearly you are not paying attention

and No, you nor I can speak for what the "vast majority" of country listeners like
re-read what you wrote yourself because it's void of logic

They really don't. Find me a quote. I posted two from legends
He doesn't win because of his skin color but he will always be recognized for his legacy.

No, she's not.
and you need to LISTEN to music before commenting. The message is clear and it's not like he just randomly yelled. God, you're annoying af. Just rambling nonsense.

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Not this still going on.

[Vonc2002]

On a site that can be edited by fans

v

Then what's the point of even mentioning a site like Wikipedia in this convo? Ray... plea'

because if his fans are sooooo in love with his vocals
They would have written more than 2 sentences
Duh

This logic 

is pristine that's why you have no rebuttal

Not it's not What exactly does Wikipedia have to do with his vocals being praised? Nothing.

its edited by fans

And? So if a fan decided to edit and add more about his vocals then what?

it would kinda show that his fans care about his voice
They wrote a lot about his songwriting

This logic doesn't make sense to me because if you go on Flush's page or sTank's there's not even a sentence about their shitty vocals

From Usher's

Usher has a leggero tenor vocal range.[101][102] When speaking of Usher's vocal range, Rick Juzwiak speaks "his vocal range is even more impressive than his emotional one" with emphasis on his falsetto being "something that sounds as natural as a speaking voice...he's the picture of grace against shrieking synths". Juzwiak emphasizes the singer's expressiveness by commenting "his emotional range is vast enough to sell tenderness, lechery and wistfulness within minutes of each other'.[103]

Looks like a sentence to me

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From brandy's



Norwood's vocal stylings have had a significant impact on the music industry, most notably with contemporary R&B, pop and gospel genres, where she is often subjectively referred to as the "Vocal Bible".[135] Her work has influenced numerous artists, including Jessie J,[136] JoJo,[136] Bridget Kelly,[136] Olivia,[136] Emeli Sand?,[136] Jordin Sparks,[136] Tank,[136] Teyana Taylor,[136] and Elle Varner,[136] while Norwood's vocals have been praised by several of her peers, including Natasha Bedingfield,[136] Missy Elliott,[136] Jennifer Hudson,[136] Syleena Johnson,[136] Lil' Mo,[136] Brian McKnight,[136] Jill Scott,[136] Angie Stone,[136] and Tamia.[136] Additionally, on many occasions, Norwood has been thought of as a talented artist that music producers and songwriters have used to enhance their own artistic and creative energies.[137][138]

I mean LOLZ!

[tigernathan]

I actually get the logic behind this. That's like if u looked up Whitney or Mariah on Wikipedia there would definitely be something about VOCALS in there because that's something that they've be applauded for. I mean it's kinda clear but of course she gon play dumb to the fact like she always do in these r Kelly debates. The nigger ain't no damn singer n is blacklisted in the damn industry. Play Ray Charles to the shit all u want but a spade is a fckn spade 

How am I playing dumb? Whitney and Mariah were vocal artists. That's how they started their careers. R. Kelly is a R&B artist. But that doesn't change the fact that he can sing. Crying @ your burnt ass still trying to convince yourself he's "blacklisted" because Pawn is regulated to performing at 7 Eleven's.

Let's call a spade a spade - You're foaming because I'm dragging Pawn by her dentures. Face it, the bitch is a homeless untalented flop. She will never make it in the business and will constantly be overlooked.

[tigernathan]

exactly. His bio says "R Kelly's voice can go from baritone to alto"
which really is a mess because "alto" is not a male voice type
unless a man just happens to be singing the "alto" part in a harmony with others. Clearly they just don't care about his voice that much and wrote anything

The musical term alto, meaning "high" in Italian (Latin: altus), refers to the second highest part of a contrapuntal musical texture and is also applied to its associated vocal range, especially in choral music. More rarely it describes the highest male solo voice type (usually designated countertenor), and it is also the root word of contralto, the lowest standard female voice type. When designating instruments, "alto" likewise can refer either to the corresponding vocal range (alto flute and alto trombone) or to musical role (alto recorder and alto clarinet).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alto



Some vocal expert...

[RAY7]

I mean it's been said especially about Usher

and R Kelly is wailing loud as hell in that clip and sounding foolish
and very much similar to most of his music
another example I just though of is 3-way phone call
him and Kelly were kinda drowning out Kim Burrell at the end because they are so loud. It's on the Happy People/ U Saved Me album
which I listened to before

You really are talking about the entire genre of country like you've listened to every album by every artist, you haven't
And it doesn't matter if the vocals are over the top
you cannot dictate why other ppl buy music

No one says that about Flush'. Stop.

You're always bringing up that one damn song Kim Burrell wasn't even singing on that song. They're literally having a convo. Tears. I hate Kim's voice btw. Vibrator sounding self.

Blah, fucking blah. You're just trying to be difficult now. Listen to Country music then get back to me.

plenty of ppl have praised Usher's voice
specifically the Grammy committee
Kim was singing on that song, they all were and at the end Robert and Kelly keep wailing "SAVE ME! Save me! SAVE ME!"
I reference the song because I love Kim's runs on it

I clearly have listened to Country music
I have listed multiple singers who are country and sing very well
and they have huge fan bases who love their vocals
you can't prove they don't PERIOD
Which makes your spiel about R&B and Country void

v

Nah, they don't.
and 'Bert has been nominated for many vocal performances (more than other categories) Grammys but you think he can't sing

Kim wasn't singing on that shit. She was just talking.
He was "wailing" that because that's what the song is fucking about. Do you pay attention or nah? No you don't.

You keep proving my point. You already know that the vast majority don't care for vocals so you're trying to argue that what I'm saying is wrong because their are Country singers who can sing Read what I wrote again until you understand it.

yes they do
and Bert has been NOMINATED but he keeps LOSING every year
So clearly he isn't that great
Kim IS singing on the song they are all singing on the song
and the song is not all about getting saved that's just a prayer at the end
that does NOT have to yelled. Clearly you are not paying attention

and No, you nor I can speak for what the "vast majority" of country listeners like
re-read what you wrote yourself because it's void of logic

They really don't. Find me a quote. I posted two from legends
He doesn't win because of his skin color but he will always be recognized for his legacy.

No, she's not.
and you need to LISTEN to music before commenting. The message is clear and it's not like he just randomly yelled. God, you're annoying af. Just rambling nonsense.

Usher won 8 and he's Black
Beyonc? won 20
John legend has 9
Alicia Keys, I mean the list goes on. It's not like White ppl are winning in the R&B categories so that excuse is void

I never said the wailing on 3 way call was random
It wasn't NEEDED though, YOU need to listen
maybe take a few years on music theory
It has helped me a lot

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And Rihanna sounds nice there tbh, much  better than that nigga weak that's for sure

Coming in on the wrong key... twice sounds nice?

[tigernathan]

On a site that can be edited by fans

v

Then what's the point of even mentioning a site like Wikipedia in this convo? Ray... plea'

because if his fans are sooooo in love with his vocals
They would have written more than 2 sentences
Duh

This logic 

is pristine that's why you have no rebuttal

Not it's not What exactly does Wikipedia have to do with his vocals being praised? Nothing.

its edited by fans

And? So if a fan decided to edit and add more about his vocals then what?

it would kinda show that his fans care about his voice
They wrote a lot about his songwriting

This logic doesn't make sense to me because if you go on Flush's page or sTank's there's not even a sentence about their shitty vocals

From Usher's

Usher has a leggero tenor vocal range.[101][102] When speaking of Usher's vocal range, Rick Juzwiak speaks "his vocal range is even more impressive than his emotional one" with emphasis on his falsetto being "something that sounds as natural as a speaking voice...he's the picture of grace against shrieking synths". Juzwiak emphasizes the singer's expressiveness by commenting "his emotional range is vast enough to sell tenderness, lechery and wistfulness within minutes of each other'.[103]

Looks like a sentence to me

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From brandy's



Norwood's vocal stylings have had a significant impact on the music industry, most notably with contemporary R&B, pop and gospel genres, where she is often subjectively referred to as the "Vocal Bible".[135] Her work has influenced numerous artists, including Jessie J,[136] JoJo,[136] Bridget Kelly,[136] Olivia,[136] Emeli Sand?,[136] Jordin Sparks,[136] Tank,[136] Teyana Taylor,[136] and Elle Varner,[136] while Norwood's vocals have been praised by several of her peers, including Natasha Bedingfield,[136] Missy Elliott,[136] Jennifer Hudson,[136] Syleena Johnson,[136] Lil' Mo,[136] Brian McKnight,[136] Jill Scott,[136] Angie Stone,[136] and Tamia.[136] Additionally, on many occasions, Norwood has been thought of as a talented artist that music producers and songwriters have used to enhance their own artistic and creative energies.[137][138]

I mean LOLZ!

Oh don't hop to Brandy now

What about Pawn Richard? 

[RAY7]

exactly. His bio says "R Kelly's voice can go from baritone to alto"
which really is a mess because "alto" is not a male voice type
unless a man just happens to be singing the "alto" part in a harmony with others. Clearly they just don't care about his voice that much and wrote anything

The musical term alto, meaning "high" in Italian (Latin: altus), refers to the second highest part of a contrapuntal musical texture and is also applied to its associated vocal range, especially in choral music. More rarely it describes the highest male solo voice type (usually designated countertenor)[/b], and it is also the root word of contralto, the lowest standard female voice type. When designating instruments, "alto" likewise can refer either to the corresponding vocal range (alto flute and alto trombone) or to musical role (alto recorder and alto clarinet).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alto



Some vocal expert...

I never called myself an expert but
don't skip the RARELY part or that it's most often called Countertenor
and the "unless" in my post
You tried though

[tigernathan]

Beyonc? won 20

x

Those purchased awards. Plea'

But yea, it was needed. Listen to the song. Stop bullshitting about listening to the nigga's music when you clearly don't care for him. It's stupid af.

I have studied music theory and I play instruments. I'm not talking like some expert just because I sang in a church choir like some vnnnnn

[tigernathan]

And Rihanna sounds nice there tbh, much  better than that nigga weak that's for sure

Coming in on the wrong key... twice sounds nice?

But he wants to talk about tone deaf  omf Rihtard has NO ear. Always flat or pitchy. Never on key.

[Vonc2002]

On a site that can be edited by fans

v

Then what's the point of even mentioning a site like Wikipedia in this convo? Ray... plea'

because if his fans are sooooo in love with his vocals
They would have written more than 2 sentences
Duh

This logic 

is pristine that's why you have no rebuttal

Not it's not What exactly does Wikipedia have to do with his vocals being praised? Nothing.

its edited by fans

And? So if a fan decided to edit and add more about his vocals then what?

it would kinda show that his fans care about his voice
They wrote a lot about his songwriting

This logic doesn't make sense to me because if you go on Flush's page or sTank's there's not even a sentence about their shitty vocals

From Usher's

Usher has a leggero tenor vocal range.[101][102] When speaking of Usher's vocal range, Rick Juzwiak speaks "his vocal range is even more impressive than his emotional one" with emphasis on his falsetto being "something that sounds as natural as a speaking voice...he's the picture of grace against shrieking synths". Juzwiak emphasizes the singer's expressiveness by commenting "his emotional range is vast enough to sell tenderness, lechery and wistfulness within minutes of each other'.[103]

Looks like a sentence to me

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From brandy's



Norwood's vocal stylings have had a significant impact on the music industry, most notably with contemporary R&B, pop and gospel genres, where she is often subjectively referred to as the "Vocal Bible".[135] Her work has influenced numerous artists, including Jessie J,[136] JoJo,[136] Bridget Kelly,[136] Olivia,[136] Emeli Sand?,[136] Jordin Sparks,[136] Tank,[136] Teyana Taylor,[136] and Elle Varner,[136] while Norwood's vocals have been praised by several of her peers, including Natasha Bedingfield,[136] Missy Elliott,[136] Jennifer Hudson,[136] Syleena Johnson,[136] Lil' Mo,[136] Brian McKnight,[136] Jill Scott,[136] Angie Stone,[136] and Tamia.[136] Additionally, on many occasions, Norwood has been thought of as a talented artist that music producers and songwriters have used to enhance their own artistic and creative energies.[137][138]

I mean LOLZ!

Oh don't hop to Brandy now

What about Pawn Richard? 

As I've already stated before dawn NOR Rihanna are artists that I claim are superior singers which is why u saying they can't sing over and over again in here in DUMB 
U spend so much time trying to argue ANYTHING and barely listening. Brandy is someone I regard as a great singer and there are things to validate that opinion. R Kelly doesn't have that and THATS been my point from the very beginning. He can't fckn sing

[RAY7]

On a site that can be edited by fans

v

Then what's the point of even mentioning a site like Wikipedia in this convo? Ray... plea'

because if his fans are sooooo in love with his vocals
They would have written more than 2 sentences
Duh

This logic 

is pristine that's why you have no rebuttal

Not it's not What exactly does Wikipedia have to do with his vocals being praised? Nothing.

its edited by fans

And? So if a fan decided to edit and add more about his vocals then what?

it would kinda show that his fans care about his voice
They wrote a lot about his songwriting

This logic doesn't make sense to me because if you go on Flush's page or sTank's there's not even a sentence about their shitty vocals

From Usher's

Usher has a leggero tenor vocal range.[101][102] When speaking of Usher's vocal range, Rick Juzwiak speaks "his vocal range is even more impressive than his emotional one" with emphasis on his falsetto being "something that sounds as natural as a speaking voice...he's the picture of grace against shrieking synths". Juzwiak emphasizes the singer's expressiveness by commenting "his emotional range is vast enough to sell tenderness, lechery and wistfulness within minutes of each other'.[103]

Looks like a sentence to me

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From brandy's



Norwood's vocal stylings have had a significant impact on the music industry, most notably with contemporary R&B, pop and gospel genres, where she is often subjectively referred to as the "Vocal Bible".[135] Her work has influenced numerous artists, including Jessie J,[136] JoJo,[136] Bridget Kelly,[136] Olivia,[136] Emeli Sand?,[136] Jordin Sparks,[136] Tank,[136] Teyana Taylor,[136] and Elle Varner,[136] while Norwood's vocals have been praised by several of her peers, including Natasha Bedingfield,[136] Missy Elliott,[136] Jennifer Hudson,[136] Syleena Johnson,[136] Lil' Mo,[136] Brian McKnight,[136] Jill Scott,[136] Angie Stone,[136] and Tamia.[136] Additionally, on many occasions, Norwood has been thought of as a talented artist that music producers and songwriters have used to enhance their own artistic and creative energies.[137][138]

I mean LOLZ!

Whitney

Houston was a mezzo-soprano,[283][284] and was commonly referred to as "The Voice" in reference to her exceptional vocal talent.[285] She was third in MTV's list of 22 Greatest Voices,[286] and sixth on Online Magazine COVE‍ '​s list of the 100 Best Pop Vocalists with a score of 48.5/50.[287] Jon Pareles of The New York Times stated she "always had a great big voice, a technical marvel from its velvety depths to its ballistic middle register to its ringing and airy heights".[288] In 2008, Rolling Stone listed Houston as the thirty-fourth of the 100 greatest singers of all time, stating, "Her voice is a mammoth, coruscating cry: Few vocalists could get away with opening a song with 45 unaccompanied seconds of singing, but Houston's powerhouse version of Dolly Parton's 'I Will Always Love You' is a tour de force."[104] Matthew Perpetua from Rolling Stone also eulogized Houston's vocal, enumerating ten performances, including "How Will I Know" from the 1986 MTV VMAs and "The Star Spangled Banner" at the 1991 Super Bowl. "Whitney Houston was blessed with an astonishing vocal range and extraordinary technical skill, but what truly made her a great singer was her ability to connect with a song and drive home its drama and emotion with incredible precision", he stated. "She was a brilliant performer, and her live shows often eclipsed her studio recordings."[289]

Jon Caramanica of The New York Times commented, "Her voice was clean and strong, with barely any grit, well suited to the songs of love and aspiration. [...] Hers was a voice of triumph and achievement, and it made for any number of stunning, time-stopping vocal performances."[290] Mariah Carey stated, "She [Whitney] has a really rich, strong mid-belt that very few people have. She sounds really good, really strong."[291] While in her review of I Look to You, music critic Ann Powers of the Los Angeles Times writes, "[Houston's voice] stands like monuments upon the landscape of 20th century pop, defining the architecture of their times, sheltering the dreams of millions and inspiring the climbing careers of countless imitators", adding "When she was at her best, nothing could match her huge, clean, cool mezzo-soprano."[284]

Lauren Everitt from BBC News Magazine commented on melisma used in Houston's recording and its influence. "An early 'I' in Whitney Houston's 'I Will Always Love You' takes nearly six seconds to sing. In those seconds the former gospel singer-turned-pop star packs a series of different notes into the single syllable", stated Everitt. "The technique is repeated throughout the song, most pronouncedly on every 'I' and 'you'. The vocal technique is called melisma, and it has inspired a host of imitators. Other artists may have used it before Houston, but it was her rendition of Dolly Parton's love song that pushed the technique into the mainstream in the 90s. [...] But perhaps what Houston nailed best was moderation." Everitt said that "n a climate of reality shows ripe with 'oversinging,' it's easy to appreciate Houston's ability to save melisma for just the right moment."[292]

Houston's vocal stylings have had a significant impact on the music industry. According to Linda Lister in Divafication: The Deification of Modern Female Pop Stars, she has been called the "Queen of Pop" for her influence during the 1990s, commercially rivaling Mariah Carey and Celine Dion.[293] Stephen Holden from The New York Times, in his review of Houston's Radio City Music Hall concert on July 20, 1993, praised her attitude as a singer, writing, "Whitney Houston is one of the few contemporary pop stars of whom it might be said: the voice suffices. While almost every performer whose albums sell in the millions calls upon an entertainer's bag of tricks, from telling jokes to dancing to circus pyrotechnics, Ms. Houston would rather just stand there and sing." With regard to her singing style, he added: "Her [Houston's] stylistic trademarks ? shivery melismas that ripple up in the middle of a song, twirling embellishments at the ends of phrases that suggest an almost breathless exhilaration ? infuse her interpretations with flashes of musical and emotional lightning."[294]

Elysa Gardner of the Los Angeles Times in her review for The Preacher's Wife Soundtrack praised Houston's vocal ability highly, commenting, "She is first and foremost a pop diva ? at that, the best one we have. No other female pop star ? not Mariah Carey, not Celine Dion, not Barbra Streisand ? quite rivals Houston in her exquisite vocal fluidity and purity of tone, and her ability to infuse a lyric with mesmerizing melodrama."[295]