Should R&B artists go on strike?

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Stewie

Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 12, 2015, 07:48:11 PM
I just don't get the obsession some of y'all have with r&b artists selling more :dead:

As long as great music is out there (which it is), why does it matter that other audiences don't use?

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Herb.

Quote from: Drais. on December 12, 2015, 08:47:08 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 12, 2015, 08:18:50 PM
I am crying out to JESUS. "Halo" and IIWAB were both huge.
Not a ballad making you whitewashed.

See how he limited her to Urban music.

You're wrong. Allow me to break this down.

Your argument was that black people's sales are reflective of what type of music they sing.

I explained that this isn't true as you think.

'fas released what many would consider to be surefire mainstream HITS. Like "Halo" and "If I Were A Boy", etc. they were very "safe" songs.

But none of these songs did nearly as good or solidified her status more than "Single Ladies" did. "Irreplaceable" was kind of a ballad but it was a sassy ballad. Very much a "roll my neck, tell this nigger how it is" song. And it did extremely well for her as well, way better than any of the safer mess she put out.

I'm all for an artist who is multidimensional. I mean I stan for GHan and GODni Braxton. C'mon, give me more credit than that. But you guys seem a little delusional to the fact that people love 'fas more when she's swinging that horse hair around than when she's giving prim proper ballads.

RekeRig

Quote from: Baphomet. on December 12, 2015, 07:54:25 PM
Quote from: GĖ??X on December 12, 2015, 07:52:57 PM
Queen's album sold 3 million albums less when compared to a Taylor or Dele. Why? I'd like to know do the other Hive members have a reason?

the bitch sat at home uploading mess to Insta' instead of out promoting on every show like Adolf and Adele.
That was her choice. Its simple.
lol Adele was doing her numbers regardless

Herb.

December 12, 2015, 08:53:37 PM #153 Last Edit: December 12, 2015, 08:54:48 PM by Herbie
People were also sooo sure "XO" was gonna slam. Be honest with yourself when I ask WHY did we think it would smash?

Because it was super safe, and it was very...how do we put it... "pop"?

But yet again, the gorls preferred to see ha dancing around on a beach talking about how she's up all night having sex and riding surf bort's. Hot 100 confirmed this.

It never fails. Do you not see a got damn trend

yummy

Quote from: Stewie on December 12, 2015, 08:51:51 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 12, 2015, 07:48:11 PM
I just don't get the obsession some of y'all have with r&b artists selling more :dead:

As long as great music is out there (which it is), why does it matter that other audiences don't use?

nmfdgsldfjgkdfjgkfldjgkdfjgkfjgkkjk
:uhh: :uhh:

vvvvv

your taste in everything is shitty and you still want brandy rapping  :uhh:

BAPHOMET.

Quote from: Drais. on December 12, 2015, 08:47:08 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 12, 2015, 08:18:50 PM
I am crying out to JESUS. "Halo" and IIWAB were both huge.
Not a ballad making you whitewashed.

See how he limited her to Urban music.

I don't understand why blacks seems to think singing anything outside of grease makes you whitewashed. It's called experimenting and maybe if these niggers tried it a bit they'd see some sales.

I don't consider singing about bitches weed and money over a trap beat being "R&B" either so I don't want to hear anybody saying anything about "selling out" to be successful.  :kii: 


!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if you arent singing about how Tyrone took you rent money and stole your car you're whitewashed  :kii:


LOONA.

Quote from: Herbie on December 12, 2015, 08:52:03 PM
Quote from: Drais. on December 12, 2015, 08:47:08 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 12, 2015, 08:18:50 PM
I am crying out to JESUS. "Halo" and IIWAB were both huge.
Not a ballad making you whitewashed.

See how he limited her to Urban music.

You're wrong. Allow me to break this down.

Your argument was that black people's sales are reflective of what type of music they sing.

I explained that this isn't true as you think.

'fas released what many would consider to be surefire mainstream HITS. Like "Halo" and "If I Were A Boy", etc. they were very "safe" songs.

But none of these songs did nearly as good or solidified her status more than "Single Ladies" did. "Irreplaceable" was kind of a ballad but it was a sassy ballad. Very much a "roll my neck, tell this nigger how it is" song. And it did extremely well for her as well, way better than any of the safer mess she put out.

I'm all for an artist who is multidimensional. I mean I stan for GHan and GODni Braxton. C'mon, give me more credit than that. But you guys seem a little delusional to the fact that people love 'fas more when she's swinging that horse hair around than when she's giving prim proper ballads.

For 90% of them, yes. They all literally sing the exact same record.

And yes even I prefer "aggressive" Beyonc?. What is your point and what does that have to do with anything?

   

FINE.

Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 12, 2015, 08:54:05 PM
Quote from: Stewie on December 12, 2015, 08:51:51 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 12, 2015, 07:48:11 PM
I just don't get the obsession some of y'all have with r&b artists selling more :dead:

As long as great music is out there (which it is), why does it matter that other audiences don't use?

nmfdgsldfjgkdfjgkfldjgkdfjgkfjgkkjk
:uhh: :uhh:

vvvvv

your taste in everything is shitty and you still want brandy rapping  :uhh:
sdsdsd

Herb.

Quote from: Drais. on December 12, 2015, 08:54:48 PM
Quote from: Herbie on December 12, 2015, 08:52:03 PM
Quote from: Drais. on December 12, 2015, 08:47:08 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 12, 2015, 08:18:50 PM
I am crying out to JESUS. "Halo" and IIWAB were both huge.
Not a ballad making you whitewashed.

See how he limited her to Urban music.

You're wrong. Allow me to break this down.

Your argument was that black people's sales are reflective of what type of music they sing.

I explained that this isn't true as you think.

'fas released what many would consider to be surefire mainstream HITS. Like "Halo" and "If I Were A Boy", etc. they were very "safe" songs.

But none of these songs did nearly as good or solidified her status more than "Single Ladies" did. "Irreplaceable" was kind of a ballad but it was a sassy ballad. Very much a "roll my neck, tell this nigger how it is" song. And it did extremely well for her as well, way better than any of the safer mess she put out.

I'm all for an artist who is multidimensional. I mean I stan for GHan and GODni Braxton. C'mon, give me more credit than that. But you guys seem a little delusional to the fact that people love 'fas more when she's swinging that horse hair around than when she's giving prim proper ballads.

For 90% of them, yes. They all literally sing the exact same record.

And yes even I prefer "aggressive" Beyonc?. What is your point and what does that have to do with anything?

   

I've already stated my point, you clearly missed it the first time and I'm not breaking anything else down.

FUCK Bey

Quote from: COD. on December 12, 2015, 08:50:33 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 12, 2015, 08:45:41 PM


this entire clip  :kii:
!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im sitting here watching the whole thing!!!!!!!!!! I didnt know their beef was this serious!!!  :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

Kmichelle: You've had 5 record deals....This is your second album... your first debuted at #127....... ok?


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There's absolutely nothing experimental about Bey's music. :kii: She does well because she has the MARKETING and NAME. The end. Her music is no different from the artists who flop.

Jon

Quote from: Drais. on December 12, 2015, 08:31:54 PM
Quote from: Bentley! on December 12, 2015, 08:21:51 PM
Trailor puts out campy country music  :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

we live in the United States of America filled with honky tonk and good ole boys :dead:

they're not gonna buy Beyonce over her.... it just seems like we're crying about it

we want ya sales massa! we want ya promo massa! accept our music massa!

it's the exact mindset Omarion had crying about the Grammys snubbing him and he WON best collaboration at the Soul Train Awards and the nigger didn't even show up
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Pretty much

I understand the "argument" or whatever but I just don't see it fitting this time.

Pretty much all genres these days only have a handful of artists that are moving units and have huge label support. Both white and black. Y'all are focusing on Urban music because that's what you like.

Not too long ago they were complaining that they couldn't tell a Chris/Trey/Neyo/Jeremih etc song apart from each other and now it seems that everything else but that is the problem. 


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:stressed:

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Quote from: RIG on December 12, 2015, 08:50:06 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on December 12, 2015, 07:48:11 PM
I just don't get the obsession some of y'all have with r&b artists selling more :dead:

As long as great music is out there (which it is), why does it matter that other audiences don't use?
well unless they go independent, their budgets to make some really good music and deliver great visuals to the fans, can be significantly cut down due to low sales

I didn't read this but I think it comes down to the creativity of the artists. A Lot of artists are afraid to work with actual fresh, hungry new talent because it's better to try and fail with a hit maker than to fail with a nobody. I think outside of Chris Brown none of the artists venture out into the unknown. Dawn comes to mind when I think of what an independent artist could be. Her visuals can sometimes be samey but she works with what she has. These Artists aren't creative in their art. You always here Dave Meyers, Timbaland, but there are some dope Indie niggas putting out quality material and quality visuals on a shoestring budget.

Herb.

Quote from: Baphomet. on December 12, 2015, 08:54:14 PM
Quote from: Drais. on December 12, 2015, 08:47:08 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on December 12, 2015, 08:18:50 PM
I am crying out to JESUS. "Halo" and IIWAB were both huge.
Not a ballad making you whitewashed.

See how he limited her to Urban music.

I don't understand why blacks seems to think singing anything outside of grease makes you whitewashed. It's called experimenting and maybe if these niggers tried it a bit they'd see some sales.

I don't consider singing about bitches weed and money over a trap beat being "R&B" either so I don't want to hear anybody saying anything about "selling out" to be successful.  :kii: 


!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if you arent singing about how Tyrone took you rent money and stole your car you're whitewashed  :kii:
Again, wrong.

I stan for Toni Braxton and GHan. They're not known for this mess and I do not consider them whitewashed. You bey hive girls are super defensive. :dead:

RekeRig

Quote from: Herbie on December 12, 2015, 08:16:20 PM
You guys are pretty much putting the blame back on black artists when it doesn't belong there at all. Try harder! Experiment! Release different music!

'fas was the walking epitome of whitewashed in everything from "If I Were Colored" to "Halo" to "XO" ...and still everyone would rather see her pop her pussy and swing her blond sew-in around the stage.

Same with Rihanna. She tried to go deep and emo with Rated R and didn't score a hit until she was prancing around singing about how big someone's dick is with her Barbadian accent.

Let's not go with blaming the artist. It's deeper than that.
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