Ginuwine Speaks on Falling Out with Aaliyah

Started by ssw4919, June 30, 2020, 09:45:35 PM

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Aamerie.

But meh overall. I don't think it's that deep.

Her and Ginuwine were never really close to begin with. 
Timbaland was possessive and jealous over his muse.

Missy, probably suffered whatever Timbaland did at the hands of Barry and his shady business. Not being paid, etc. Li was probably stuck in the middle and that's why they didn't submit a lot of work for her 3rd mess, I mean if they weren't getting paid correctly I understand.  So yeah probably just nuances of mixing friendships and business. Li was def put in a position to straddle the fence but sis has to keep it moving, keep working. I think it all just happened too fast and a mere falling out (which happens to all friends at some point) didn't get a chance to be resolved 


reekz

I don't think it was that. Liyah was fine with Timberland not doing the album but Barry wanted it. She was pushing for MTAW very hard for second single and even included I Care 4 U on the album. It's all just so strange and doesn't make sense.

Aamerie.

Quote from: guest on June 30, 2020, 11:12:07 PM
I don't think it was that. Liyah was fine with Timberland not doing the album but Barry wanted it. She was pushing for MTAW very hard for second single and even included I Care 4 U on the album. It's all just so strange and doesn't make sense.

The 2 new songs he did for the album probably were only submitted on the strength of friendship or even marking his "territory." Yeah I'm not getting paid correctly but Aaliyah's my friend and I HAVE to be involved in some way.... going back to that possessive nature. 


HUGO

I had no idea she fell out with Missy and Tim :-/

That must hurt even harder. Same with TBoz/Chilli  anD Left Eye

reekz

Quote from: L0NZ. on June 30, 2020, 11:20:43 PM
Quote from: guest on June 30, 2020, 11:12:07 PM
I don't think it was that. Liyah was fine with Timberland not doing the album but Barry wanted it. She was pushing for MTAW very hard for second single and even included I Care 4 U on the album. It's all just so strange and doesn't make sense.

The 2 new songs he did for the album probably were only submitted on the strength of friendship or even marking his "territory." Yeah I'm not getting paid correctly but Aaliyah's my friend and I HAVE to be involved in some way.... going back to that possessive nature.

Then why would she be upset if he did her a favor? See, it just makes no sense. It was definitely something else.

ssw4919

Quote from: Vonc2002 on June 30, 2020, 09:52:20 PM
I wonder what they all fell out about

One of the red album producers said Missy and Tim fell out with Barry over money.  I don't think they were speaking over business issues.  Remember that Tim initially refused to be on the album (so did Missy).  Tim relented at the last minute and gave her the songs she included.  Aaliyah was committed to going in a different direction from them musically, and relied on other producers.

ssw4919

Quote from: 89 on June 30, 2020, 10:37:23 PM
Maybe she was siding with her Uncle against them at the time


I hope not.  :fuming:  She had to have known he was a swindler.

Rumor was she was planning to leave him soon.

Amazing

Money is the source of most arguments and breakups so it was probably that.

Harlem

Oh wait! Let me get the fuck in b/c I knew it was mess between all of them that 2001 year... shit Ginuwine didn't work with Tim like that either so I always thought it was sus

reekz

Quote from: ssw4919 on June 30, 2020, 11:28:51 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on June 30, 2020, 09:52:20 PM
I wonder what they all fell out about

One of the red album producers said Missy and Tim fell out with Barry over money.  I don't think they were speaking over business issues.  Remember that Tim initially refused to be on the album (so did Missy).  Tim relented at the last minute and gave her the songs she included.  Aaliyah was committed to going in a different direction from them musically, and relied on other producers.

My point exactly. Liyah didn't care for Tim being apart of the album. The album was done, they submitted it but Barry felt Tim was missing and wanted that sound cause Butta and them had great songs but nothing single worthy.

Aaliyah was the one that picked and took a chance on Tim/Missy so it make sense that she wanted to switch it up next album. She was always a trendsetter and experiment with different things.

Aamerie.

Quote from: guest on June 30, 2020, 11:26:09 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on June 30, 2020, 11:20:43 PM
Quote from: guest on June 30, 2020, 11:12:07 PM
I don't think it was that. Liyah was fine with Timberland not doing the album but Barry wanted it. She was pushing for MTAW very hard for second single and even included I Care 4 U on the album. It's all just so strange and doesn't make sense.

The 2 new songs he did for the album probably were only submitted on the strength of friendship or even marking his "territory." Yeah I'm not getting paid correctly but Aaliyah's my friend and I HAVE to be involved in some way.... going back to that possessive nature.

Then why would she be upset if he did her a favor? See, it just makes no sense. It was definitely something else.

Maybe he was upset? :uhh:



CREAM.

Quote from: L0NZ. on June 30, 2020, 10:59:46 PM
But meh overall. I don't think it's that deep.

Her and Ginuwine were never really close to begin with.
Timbaland was possessive and jealous over his muse.

Missy, probably suffered whatever Timbaland did at the hands of Barry and his shady business. Not being paid, etc. Li was probably stuck in the middle and that's why they didn't submit a lot of work for her 3rd mess, I mean if they weren't getting paid correctly I understand.  So yeah probably just nuances of mixing friendships and business. Li was def put in a position to straddle the fence but sis has to keep it moving, keep working. I think it all just happened too fast and a mere falling out (which happens to all friends at some point) didn't get a chance to be resolved
Pretty much.

I always figured it was this.


GLOCK

I bet they didn't want to work with her unless she moved labels and she was probably offended by that and cut them off 

!!!
They probably were going hard on her to leave him 
all of them got fucked over by Barry