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Title: This is bittersweet
Post by: CHOKE on August 17, 2021, 01:05:31 PM
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QuoteMartin and Trina Daniel, married for over 20 years, both died of COVID-19 within hours of each other, leaving behind two teenage children facing an unimaginable loss.

The Daniels met at Savannah State University in the 1990s before Martin Daniel headed to Tuskegee University in Alabama for graduate school, their nephew, Cornelius Daniel, told ABC News.

Cornelius Daniel said his aunt and uncle were hesitant to get vaccinated in part due to the legacy of the Tuskegee Syphilis Study, which charted syphilis progression in unknowing Black men from the 1930s to the 1970s.

Martin Daniel died at home on July 6. Trina was hospitalized and died that night

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/unvaccinated-couple-die-covid-19-hours-leaving-teens/story%3fid=79405346


At least they weren't apart for too long, that's the only silver lining to this story

Please get vaccinated

Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: Nine on August 17, 2021, 01:35:49 PM
Sad, but I don't feel sorry for them.

Their deaths were mostly preventable.
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: ATLien on August 17, 2021, 01:42:16 PM
I think a lot of Hesitance in the black community is fueled by distrust of the government and a lot of misinformation sometimes

It's easy for us to wag our fingers and say "shoulda got vaccinated shalequa! Dassit!" without understanding why they were hesitant

Not everyone is gonna be an independent thinker - some are quick to buy into whatever they read . That's just how we operate sometimes unfortunately

And some black ppl let our general distrust of America as a whole fuel a decision not to move forward with any instructions given by the government to have something shot into our arms .

Most of it isn't the most reasonable or logical ... but fueled by emotion







Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: Dr Naomi Campbell on August 17, 2021, 01:44:55 PM
Quote from: I got Black in my family 💁🏿 on August 17, 2021, 01:42:16 PM
I think a lot of Hesitance in the black community is fueled by distrust of the government and a lot of misinformation sometimes

It's easy for us to wag our fingers and say "shoulda got vaccinated shalequa! Dassit!" without understanding why they were hesitant

Not everyone is gonna be an independent thinker - some are quick to buy into whatever they read . That's just how we operate sometimes unfortunately
health inequality and poverty in the black community around the world is real
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: ATLien on August 17, 2021, 01:49:55 PM
And I also think white hesitance and black hesitance with this vaccine mess are totally different .

A lot of these white people WANT to be oppressed in some way , and take an opportunity to "fight the power " 🙄 and go against the grain.

While u have a lot of black people who have somewhat of a very real and understandable fear that America is after them to take us out ...

Like they're literally scared , not just tryna be edgy and rebellious.
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: Nine on August 17, 2021, 01:51:10 PM
I'm actually tired of that Tuskegee mess being used as an excuse.

Everyone is taking the same vaccine.

Black people need to get it together. period.
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: CHOKE on August 17, 2021, 02:00:30 PM
For me it's like what's the alternative?
Get Covid and die a painful death unable to breath?

No thank! I'll take my chances with the shot 
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: penny. on August 17, 2021, 02:02:06 PM
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on August 17, 2021, 01:51:10 PM
I'm actually tired of that Tuskegee mess being used as an excuse.

Everyone is taking the same vaccine.

Black people need to get it together. period.
I agree but do we really know this to be true?

Black people kind of have every right to question anything being injected into their bodies.
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: Hatsumomo on August 17, 2021, 02:04:14 PM
Some people STILL refuse to get vaccinated even though it could save their lives. Smh
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: Nine on August 17, 2021, 02:05:35 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on August 17, 2021, 02:02:06 PM
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on August 17, 2021, 01:51:10 PM
I'm actually tired of that Tuskegee mess being used as an excuse.

Everyone is taking the same vaccine.

Black people need to get it together. period.
I agree but do we really know this to be true?
Yes.
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: Nine on August 17, 2021, 02:06:18 PM
Black people will do everything except things that are good for them.
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: penny. on August 17, 2021, 02:07:57 PM
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on August 17, 2021, 02:05:35 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on August 17, 2021, 02:02:06 PM
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on August 17, 2021, 01:51:10 PM
I'm actually tired of that Tuskegee mess being used as an excuse.

Everyone is taking the same vaccine.

Black people need to get it together. period.
I agree but do we really know this to be true?
Yes.
How?
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: Hatsumomo on August 17, 2021, 02:08:47 PM
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on August 17, 2021, 02:06:18 PM
Black people will do everything except things that are good for them.

Now that was really low. But true.
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: penny. on August 17, 2021, 02:09:06 PM
I'm not even a conspiracy girl but HOW do we know the vaccine is the same in urban areas as it is in predominantly-white areas?
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: ATLien on August 17, 2021, 02:09:15 PM
We have to remember that black single mom with two kids who has little or no time to keep up with what's what when it comes to info

I have the luxury of having ample time to watch CNN , check news updates as I'm working at home etc . As I'm sure a lot of us do in some way

I have the time to know enough to realize why it's unreasonable to think a certain way.

But don't forget those who don't. Not everyone is gonna be well educated and informed about everything . And some are very scared .

Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: CHOKE on August 17, 2021, 02:10:12 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on August 17, 2021, 02:02:06 PM
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on August 17, 2021, 01:51:10 PM
I'm actually tired of that Tuskegee mess being used as an excuse.

Everyone is taking the same vaccine.

Black people need to get it together. period.
I agree but do we really know this to be true?

Black people kind of have every right to question anything being injected into their bodies.

:dead:
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: Nine on August 17, 2021, 02:10:49 PM
Quote from: The Night King on August 17, 2021, 02:08:47 PM
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on August 17, 2021, 02:06:18 PM
Black people will do everything except things that are good for them.

Now that was really low. But true.
My people just really frustrate me sometimes.

:melmel:
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: Hatsumomo on August 17, 2021, 02:10:57 PM
I think everyone is lying tbh from Dr Fauci on down. Who can we really trust about covid? 
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: CHOKE on August 17, 2021, 02:13:40 PM
Quote from: The Night King on August 17, 2021, 02:10:57 PM
I think everyone is lying tbh from Dr Fauci on down. Who can we really trust about covid?

The statistics

:disgusted:
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: Hatsumomo on August 17, 2021, 02:14:35 PM
Quote from: YTManzWhore on August 17, 2021, 02:13:40 PM
Quote from: The Night King on August 17, 2021, 02:10:57 PM
I think everyone is lying tbh from Dr Fauci on down. Who can we really trust about covid?

The statistics

:disgusted:

I hope so.
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: Nine on August 17, 2021, 02:15:06 PM
Quote from: The Night King on August 17, 2021, 02:10:57 PM
I think everyone is lying tbh from Dr Fauci on down. Who can we really trust about covid?
It's rapidly evolving situation and the science changing everyday reflects that.

But the way the CDC has handled everything has been completely awful and they've contributed a lot to the anti-vaxx/anti-mask rhetoric that's prevalent now.
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: CHOKE on August 17, 2021, 02:18:15 PM
More unvaccinated people are filling up hospitals


Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: 'ology on August 17, 2021, 02:27:34 PM
Medical malpractice on black bodies is centuries old on every continent. The problem in this case is that black ppl aren't even listening to members of their own race who helped create some of these vaccines, their doctors(if they have one, or even know how to probably research things outside of social media. 
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: 'ology on August 17, 2021, 02:32:36 PM
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on August 17, 2021, 02:15:06 PM
Quote from: The Night King on August 17, 2021, 02:10:57 PM
I think everyone is lying tbh from Dr Fauci on down. Who can we really trust about covid?
It's rapidly evolving situation and the science changing everyday reflects that.

But the way the CDC has handled everything has been completely awful and they've contributed a lot to the anti-vaxx/anti-mask rhetoric that's prevalent now.
I blame Trunk administration 🤷🏽‍♂️ They made masks and other life saving measures into political issues. I've never heard so much about freedom until these last 2 years. People don't get that in a highly contagious pandemic you still have freedoms, but your freedom ends when you have the potential to kill someone.
:udontlookok:
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: Kaeli. on August 17, 2021, 02:39:32 PM
If niggers don't let go of this Tuskegee mess :udontlookok: 

Yea it was heinous but it was damn near 100 years ago. stop using it as an excuse for your present day irresponsibility. especially when they've most likely been vaccinated before 
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: penny. on August 17, 2021, 02:41:13 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on August 17, 2021, 02:39:32 PM
Yea it was heinous but it was damn near 100 years ago.
:unsure:
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: Freemala Harris on August 17, 2021, 02:51:52 PM
Quote from: YTManzWhore on August 17, 2021, 02:00:30 PM
For me it%u2019s like what%u2019s the alternative?
Get Covid and die a painful death unable to breath?

No thank! I%u2019ll take my chances with the shot

Yeah

People are afraid due to many factors but it all comes down to logic

The rare chances of side effects from any vaccine

-or-

The higher chances of complications of a deadly and highly contagious plague w/ new strains popping up

The former is clearly in everyones' best interest. But of course, not everyone can be swayed by facts or logic unfortunately...
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: CHOKE on August 17, 2021, 02:58:10 PM
What made me get it was when my 50 year old dad got it and a 27 year old home girl i know got it

My dad was vaccinated he just had a sore throat for a day

She was unvaccinated and was in the hospital for 2 weeks fighting for her life

And she still hasn't gotten her taste back

Bitch the way I called my doctor and got that shot

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Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: ATLien on August 17, 2021, 02:58:20 PM
Ok enough talk
Time to knock sub-zero into a fuckin coma . :trannyjblige:
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: CHOKE on August 17, 2021, 03:02:32 PM
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Girl SIT

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Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: Nine on August 17, 2021, 03:02:56 PM
Quote from: I got Black in my family 💁🏿 on August 17, 2021, 02:58:20 PM
Ok enough talk
Time to knock sub-zero into a fuckin coma . :trannyjblige:
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Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: penny. on August 17, 2021, 03:03:17 PM
And back to the original topic, they didn't "refusal to get the vaccine. They were scheduled but unfortunately passed just one week earlier.
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: ATLien on August 17, 2021, 03:05:44 PM
Quote from: YTManzWhore on August 17, 2021, 03:02:32 PM
n

Girl SIT

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Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: Kaeli. on August 17, 2021, 03:06:21 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on August 17, 2021, 03:03:17 PM
And back to the original topic, they didn't "refusal to get the vaccine. They were scheduled but unfortunately passed just one week earlier.
Oh well

should've went earlier. deceased selves :trannyjblige:
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: Nine on August 17, 2021, 03:06:55 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on August 17, 2021, 03:03:17 PM
And back to the original topic, they didn't "refusal to get the vaccine. They were scheduled but unfortunately passed just one week earlier.
Should have gotten it earlier

:plea:

Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: Nine on August 17, 2021, 03:07:24 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on August 17, 2021, 03:06:21 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on August 17, 2021, 03:03:17 PM
And back to the original topic, they didn't "refusal to get the vaccine. They were scheduled but unfortunately passed just one week earlier.
Oh well

should've went earlier. deceased selves :trannyjblige:
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Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: Dr Naomi Campbell on August 17, 2021, 03:08:35 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on August 17, 2021, 02:07:57 PM
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on August 17, 2021, 02:05:35 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on August 17, 2021, 02:02:06 PM
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on August 17, 2021, 01:51:10 PM
I'm actually tired of that Tuskegee mess being used as an excuse.

Everyone is taking the same vaccine.

Black people need to get it together. period.
I agree but do we really know this to be true?
Yes.
How?
has anyone died solely because of the vaccine?
If everyone was taking a wildly different vaccine, infection rates would continue to rise despite efforts to vaccinate populations
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: JCJ on August 17, 2021, 03:19:03 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on August 17, 2021, 02:39:32 PM
If niggers don't let go of this Tuskegee mess :udontlookok:

Yea it was heinous but it was damn near 100 years ago. stop using it as an excuse for your present day irresponsibility. especially when they've most likely been vaccinated before


And the people in the Tuskegee mess were DENIED treatment. They weren't given a harmful vaccine mess
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: JCJ on August 17, 2021, 03:21:14 PM
Quote from: FxckDemCrackers on August 17, 2021, 03:08:35 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on August 17, 2021, 02:07:57 PM
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on August 17, 2021, 02:05:35 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on August 17, 2021, 02:02:06 PM
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on August 17, 2021, 01:51:10 PM
I'm actually tired of that Tuskegee mess being used as an excuse.

Everyone is taking the same vaccine.

Black people need to get it together. period.
I agree but do we really know this to be true?
Yes.
How?
has anyone died solely because of the vaccine?
If everyone was taking a wildly different vaccine, infection rates would continue to rise despite efforts to vaccinate populations

I don't know why you even bothered jdjkgfjfh
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: Freemala Harris on August 17, 2021, 03:22:02 PM
and shit forget being unvaccinated

I'll have to ask my primary doctor about the 3rd mess

Cause with the way Deltisha is pushing the pandemic & the potential rise during back to school season....

Is another lockdown looming? Shit we barely even went into lockdown to begin with in the US
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: penny. on August 17, 2021, 03:26:12 PM
Quote from: Freemala Harris on August 17, 2021, 03:22:02 PM
and shit forget being unvaccinated

I'll have to ask my primary doctor about the 3rd mess

Cause with the way Deltisha is pushing the pandemic & the potential rise during back to school season....

Is another lockdown looming? Shit we barely even went into lockdown to begin with in the US
US where? Cause it was locked tf down on the east coast :uhh:
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: Freemala Harris on August 17, 2021, 03:28:22 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on August 17, 2021, 03:26:12 PM
Quote from: Freemala Harris on August 17, 2021, 03:22:02 PM
and shit forget being unvaccinated

I'll have to ask my primary doctor about the 3rd mess

Cause with the way Deltisha is pushing the pandemic & the potential rise during back to school season....

Is another lockdown looming? Shit we barely even went into lockdown to begin with in the US
US where? Cause it was locked tf down on the east coast :uhh:

Yeah it depends on the region (poor red states)

I'm mainly talking in comparison to other countries

Shit, I heard parts of Australia were locking down again recently (which is smart)

Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: CHOKE on August 17, 2021, 03:34:22 PM
My mom bout to get her third mess 

Goddess is protected 
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: rosone1 on August 17, 2021, 03:38:24 PM
Quote from: I got Black in my family 💁🏿 on August 17, 2021, 01:42:16 PM
I think a lot of Hesitance in the black community is fueled by distrust of the government and a lot of misinformation sometimes

It's easy for us to wag our fingers and say "shoulda got vaccinated shalequa! Dassit!" without understanding why they were hesitant

Not everyone is gonna be an independent thinker - some are quick to buy into whatever they read . That's just how we operate sometimes unfortunately

And some black ppl let our general distrust of America as a whole fuel a decision not to move forward with any instructions given by the government to have something shot into our arms .

Most of it isn't the most reasonable or logical ... but fueled by emotion
💯
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: Annie on August 17, 2021, 03:43:08 PM
The other day one of my favorite rappers Zumbi from Zion I died...he was recovering from Covid, but had an asthma attack and heart attack. I think there were like twenty people who got the virus at his last show..it's a mess. Get vaccinated.
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: rosone1 on August 17, 2021, 03:53:20 PM
Quote from: FxckDemCrackers on August 17, 2021, 03:08:35 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on August 17, 2021, 02:07:57 PM
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on August 17, 2021, 02:05:35 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on August 17, 2021, 02:02:06 PM
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on August 17, 2021, 01:51:10 PM
I'm actually tired of that Tuskegee mess being used as an excuse.

Everyone is taking the same vaccine.

Black people need to get it together. period.
I agree but do we really know this to be true?
Yes.
How?
has anyone died solely because of the vaccine?
If everyone was taking a wildly different vaccine, infection rates would continue to rise despite efforts to vaccinate populations
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: JCJ on August 17, 2021, 04:17:45 PM
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Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: bby ddy on August 17, 2021, 04:30:40 PM
I'm sorry to hear that :'(

I feel for their children.

it's crazy because most of the older people in my family/that I know in general went to get vaccinated in droves, whereas the younger folks were slow to get or haven't gotten the vaccine at all. 
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: Dr Naomi Campbell on August 17, 2021, 07:19:22 PM
Quote from: JCJ on August 17, 2021, 04:17:45 PM
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What was said
Title: Re: This is bittersweet
Post by: JCJ on August 17, 2021, 07:25:10 PM
Quote from: FxckDemCrackers on August 17, 2021, 07:19:22 PM
Quote from: JCJ on August 17, 2021, 04:17:45 PM
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What was said

Some cases of people dying from the vaccine and mess