On an episode of "The Friend Zone" podcast, where they interview Dawn Richard.
I'm listening on Apple Podcast but you can also find it below on soundcloud.
At the 1:43:00 mark, Dawn doesnt go into detail but she just says Diddy wanted Brandy to be his group member. Dawn and K were both writing songs and recording demos at the time, just to keep working. At 1:45:00, Dawn says Diddy called them after Brandy turned Diddy down, because she didn't want to be in a group. Interesting.
https://soundcloud.com/thefriendzonepodcast/second-line
Thought You Said >>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZPdRPReWeY
Ughhhhhh
Thought You Said, and some of the other records on Press Play definitely inspired Last Train!
Dawn also mentions how she wants to cover a Green Day song but approach it how Brandy did "Acapella" ...
Human recognition is rare eh?
I always wanted Brandy to in that direction back then
:gorlonfire:
Dawn has mentioned this before.
Kinda disssapointing cause the sound they were doing was just an extension of what she was known for. And you know Diddy would have had her everywhere too :howfestive:
Don't like the thought of Brandy being some flop lackey
but I would've loved to hear her on some of those songs
That would have been right off the heels of her doing DWTS. She wasn't in the right head space.
Quote from: Kaeli. on August 19, 2021, 04:59:05 AM
Don't like the thought of Brandy being some flop lackey
but I would've loved to hear her on some of those songs
!
Quote from: DopeSoul. on August 19, 2021, 05:16:31 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on August 19, 2021, 04:59:05 AM
Don't like the thought of Brandy being some flop lackey
but I would've loved to hear her on some of those songs
!
Bran read the contract and thought about the mess with Mase and other bad boy artists...and was like nopeeee
:sobusyjetsetter:
Good for her. I wouldve LOVED to hear her on songs like Ass On The Floor. But the way Diddy would've fucked her over.
Fuck the music. Diddy is the devil. I don't understand how any artist wants business ties with him.
Quote from: Murrah on August 19, 2021, 05:09:57 AM
That would have been right off the heels of her doing DWTS. She wasn't in the right head space.
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As much she wasn't in the headspace, she should've still did it though... this proves my point that Diddy should EP one of her albums in the near future, I think he'll get her together w/ sound & image
Quote from: DopeSoul. on August 19, 2021, 05:16:31 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on August 19, 2021, 04:59:05 AM
Don't like the thought of Brandy being some flop lackey
but I would've loved to hear her on some of those songs
!
Diddy's "eye" and "ear" is amazing though
ACK
the music would have been so good. And Brandy would have been in nice fashions
Quote from: DopeSoul. on August 19, 2021, 07:59:38 AM
Diddy's "eye" and "ear" is amazing though
ACK
the music would have been so good. And Brandy would have been in nice fashions
!!!
perched in high budget video's
ch Diddy & Brandy would've been an amazing look tbh
I don't think it would've made Brandy "less than"
That would have been dope
I wish it was Bran and Dawn tbh
Quote from: FxckDemCrackers on August 19, 2021, 08:14:57 AM
ch Diddy & Brandy would've been an amazing look tbh
I don't think it would've made Brandy "less than"
!! And DM had a couple hits. I feel like this would have lead to her workinh with British produers, which she used to speak about :stressed:
It was called Diddy-Dirty Money. Bran is kinda too big to be next to Dawn and Kalenna behind Diddy. But a collab like how Usher, Trey, Drake etc were wouldve been cool. She would've killed "Loving You No More"
I could even hear Bran'Nu on some of these tracks. Her and Wayne on Strobe Lights :thatssowendy:
Dawn Bran and Diddy coulda been a FORCE tbh
freferg does it matter?
But it sounds like Dawn and Kaleena would've been writing and Brandy would've been IN the group
!!!!
Strobe Lights, Shades, Hate You Know>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Even the unreleased messes
like Brandy WYD :dead:
https://soundcloud.com/mgdmanagement/03-sade-prod-by-kid-ink-rob
Brandy DOWNE
:gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire:
Quote from: DopeSoul. on August 19, 2021, 07:59:38 AM
Diddy's "eye" and "ear" is amazing though
ACK
the music would have been so good. And Brandy would have been in nice fashions
!!!!!!!!!
In a perfect world he would have given the whole album to Brandy to record
And EP'd/creative directed her era
:cheerup:
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on August 19, 2021, 09:05:40 AM
In a perfect world he would have given the whole album to Brandy to record
And EP'd/creative directed her era
:cheerup:
now THAT>>>
That would've been dope.
Brandy would have had the swag Dawn didn't.
Yes!! I remember Dawn revealing this years ago and we had a thread on it but it was two or three Bsource's ago and back in 2010. Would have been AMAZING but can ya'll blame her for not wanting to be attached with Diddy? As toxic as his world ends up being. Not that she didn't go through horrible hardships and make awful decisions anyhow, but, a veteran in the game like her that prolly knows more about Diddy than two fairly new Artists like Dawn, Kalenna and the hundreds of other young and gullible Artists he took advantage of ... idk.
We missed out on some more AMAZING music like i said and im not dumb. :-( I would have wanted this as well and still wouldn't mind :dead: but yet another "Brandy what were you thinking"?! filled thread without putting yourself in her shoes for a second is just one way to look at it IMO. That's all im saying. Being in a group comes with a LOT - as we all know - and when you've already been solo your entire life, 16-17 years deep into you career, i can honestly see why the decision was a big no thanks. Especially since she already had and may still have (idk) major trust issues in this business. Diddy is a literal demon, lowkey
:plzstop:
Again ... i know no one cares and just wants the music but i think i would have said no as well.
I can see why he wanted her though. Diddy's ear >>>>>
Dawn was perfect though. Don't forget she lent her PEN to these Dirty money songs some of ya'll are going up for lol and some of these songs would not have existed had Brandy joined this group. I don't think it was gonna be her and Dawn unless im misunderstanding and i very well could be wrong.
But Dawn's pen carried that group on her fucking back along with Fauntleroy of course.
Quote from: Saving All My Rigs on August 19, 2021, 09:16:12 AM
I can see why he wanted her though. Diddy's ear >>>>>
Dawn was perfect though. Don't forget she lent her PEN to these Dirty money songs some of ya'll are going up for lol and some of these songs would not have existed had Brandy joined this group. I don't think it was gonna be her and Dawn unless im misunderstanding and i very well could be wrong.
But Dawn's pen carried that group on her fucking back along with Fauntleroy of course.
Yh from the interview it sounds like he had Dawn/Kalenna writing and wanted Brandy to sing, but when she said no he called them to replace her
It sounds like the oringal plan would've been Diddy/Brandy
Quote from: FxckDemCrackers on August 19, 2021, 09:17:32 AM
Quote from: Saving All My Rigs on August 19, 2021, 09:16:12 AM
I can see why he wanted her though. Diddy's ear >>>>>
Dawn was perfect though. Don't forget she lent her PEN to these Dirty money songs some of ya'll are going up for lol and some of these songs would not have existed had Brandy joined this group. I don't think it was gonna be her and Dawn unless im misunderstanding and i very well could be wrong.
But Dawn's pen carried that group on her fucking back along with Fauntleroy of course.
Yh from the interview it sounds like he had Dawn/Kalenna writing and wanted Brandy to sing, but when she said no he called them to replace her
It sounds like the oringal plan would've been Diddy/Brandy
Ok if that's the case then my Queen dropped the ball :kii: :kii:
BUT i still would be iffy about working with him. A GROUP? Baby, there would have been guaranteed mess and she may not own the masters she now currently does. WE lost out on some more incredible music, but i think she wins in the end in some other areas.
Everything happens for a reason man. I'd kill to hear them try this again in the future btw :kii: it ain't ever too late. Last Train to Paris was awesome but Brandy is still here and prayerfully not going anywhere any time soon. Anything is possible
Hmph!
Im choosing to be pissed
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Dawn Said this before in an interview where she had that mushroom wig on.
Ackkkkk Dawn and Kalenna writing with Diddy budget and Brandy vocals and mug.
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Was this the same year she turned down Timbo's record deal on AFB?!
:hmph:
Quote from: Harlem on August 19, 2021, 09:56:30 AM
Was this the same year she turned down Timbo's record deal on AFB?!
:hmph:
well we've seen how signing to producers turn out
That's a fact but Brandy girl soooo many opps... imagine about the opps we don't know
:stressed:
And actually Diddy>>>> damn the industry was really tryna help our girl win again during her lowest moments
:stressed:
Quote from: RAY7 on August 19, 2021, 08:34:33 AM
It was called Diddy-Dirty Money. Bran is kinda too big to be next to Dawn and Kalenna behind Diddy. But a collab like how Usher, Trey, Drake etc were wouldve been cool. She would've killed "Loving You No More"
This was before it was called Diddy-Dirty Money, and before he grabbed Dawn and Kalenna. They came after Bran turned him down.
Loving You No More>>
Quote from: Saving All My Rigs on August 19, 2021, 09:27:51 AM
Quote from: FxckDemCrackers on August 19, 2021, 09:17:32 AM
Quote from: Saving All My Rigs on August 19, 2021, 09:16:12 AM
I can see why he wanted her though. Diddy's ear >>>>>
Dawn was perfect though. Don't forget she lent her PEN to these Dirty money songs some of ya'll are going up for lol and some of these songs would not have existed had Brandy joined this group. I don't think it was gonna be her and Dawn unless im misunderstanding and i very well could be wrong.
But Dawn's pen carried that group on her fucking back along with Fauntleroy of course.
Yh from the interview it sounds like he had Dawn/Kalenna writing and wanted Brandy to sing, but when she said no he called them to replace her
It sounds like the oringal plan would've been Diddy/Brandy
Ok if that's the case then my Queen dropped the ball :kii: :kii:
BUT i still would be iffy about working with him. A GROUP? Baby, there would have been guaranteed mess and she may not own the masters she now currently does. WE lost out on some more incredible music, but i think she wins in the end in some other areas.
Everything happens for a reason man. I'd kill to hear them try this again in the future btw :kii: it ain't ever too late. Last Train to Paris was awesome but Brandy is still here and prayerfully not going anywhere any time soon. Anything is possible
And Puff has this R&B project coming soooo he may have called Bran in.
Brandy has always been really sought after for music and other projects ..she's a literal song bird to me. I think the controversy she experienced in her life overshadowed her talent and her gift ..for a time ..but now that time goes on the badness also fades away, like all things born of misfortune. I think she's going to continue to be noticed in an even bigger way I'm excited for her future.
Quote from: FxckDemCrackers on August 19, 2021, 09:29:28 AM
Hmph!
Im choosing to be pissed
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thats right
stand in ur mess :trannyjblige:
Brandy's would've ate "Hate You Now" and "Yeah Yeah You Would" :thatssowendy:
But IDK about Queen working alongside Diddy outside of potential creative and commercial success :uhh: Probably a strong move on her end
Quote from: Sovereign. on August 19, 2021, 11:02:09 AM
But IDK about Queen working alongside Diddy outside of potential creative and commercial success :uhh: Probably a strong move on her end
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I think his business offer was probably a turn off
Quote from: Kaeli. on August 19, 2021, 04:59:05 AM
Don't like the thought of Brandy being some flop lackey
but I would've loved to hear her on some of those songs
Brandy wouldn't DIddy's doo-wop-slave, she would have been the FACE of the mess. a Brandy-Diddy mess with Kalenna and Dawn just writing.
:flamebroiled: :flamebroiled: :flamebroiled: